On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:12:15 +0200, Joshua Broussard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get a 2 year and cancel it the 31st day. The $175 from this and $35 for
activation saves you $190 if you buy sans contract.
Well a little less if you count the cost of service...
If you must have the iPhone, get
yes, i got it! ist cool, it looks nice and i already have the first
problem- the gsm-chip is powered off when i start the mobile. i can
power it on, but for that i have ti cancel the pin-dialog an i have no
idea where can i reopen the dialog. but the phone is nice, very nice :)
i will now look
Hi all,
Is there information on the number of produced, tested and shipped devices?
Is that information public, or is it sensitive in some way? I was triggered by
Pulster having sold out for this month, and wondered how demand and supply line
up.
Any comments?
Boudewijn
Yeah it would be interesting to get these stats and how they related to
the group guesstimation we did a few months ago. I can't seem to find
the link...
Nick
W. B. Kranendonk wrote:
Hi all,
Is there information on the number of produced, tested and shipped devices?
Is that information
Hi all!
Is freerunner capable of sending and receiving faxes? Does the gsm
chip has to have fax capability or is it just the software?
Leonti
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We at TrueBox (in the UK) are expecting a batch of Freerunners in on the
18th July and are taking orders now.
If anyone is interested the shop is at:
https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Shopthiscat=8
Best regards,
Rob
Marcel wrote:
Seems like this is true. There must have
Maybe when I get time I'll take a freerunner up to my friends at Emu
and see
what ideas they come up with.
Do it! See if they'll port a few of their apps to it for us .. ;)
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The base software is just that. Base software. It will function as an
everyday phone with dialer,
SMS, and contacts. So, you can take that base and build on it, by
yourself
or with others. Or, come
August timeframe you can get the Beta release of ASU.
FSO is a framework or middleware if
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Tomas Gustavsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I do understand if you can't/won't tell us but I have to ask anyway,
how many Freerunners were in the first batch?
2008/7/2 Christoph Pulster [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hallo
many thanks for your big interest in our
The point is - what can we *developers* target for our end users?
fso, as i understand it. it offers a framework separating gui from
internals and is supposed to be gui toolkit agnostic, thus allowing to
coexist qt, gtk, e?? and whatever toolkits for guis will become available.
Without
That's the reason I was posting about XCAS[1], a Computer Algebra
System that runs in ARM devices, and the main developer know about
programming for restricted resources devices (calculators).
The main challenge is the User Interface (hardware and software):
- Hardware: keypad?
- Software: It
Am Mittwoch 02 Juli 2008 11:33:18 schrieb Leonti Bielski:
Is freerunner capable of sending and receiving faxes?
Out of the box, no. This is just a software limitation that could be fixed.
Does the gsm
chip has to have fax capability or is it just the software?
Yes, TI-Calypso is a FAX class
Hi together,
I'm a little bit confused. I just received my Freerunner one hour ago. Now I
want to try the several images.
In the wiki
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner) is
written: Before you execute the command , please log in Neo FreeRunner in NOR
Great, thank you!
As long as limitation is software based I don't care.
The main thing it's possible.
On 7/2/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Mittwoch 02 Juli 2008 11:33:18 schrieb Leonti Bielski:
Is freerunner capable of sending and receiving faxes?
Out of the box, no.
simarillion wrote:
Hi together,
I'm a little bit confused. I just received my Freerunner one hour ago.
Now I want to try the several images.
In the wiki
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner)
is written: Before you execute the command , please log in
written: Before you execute the command , please log in Neo FreeRunner
in NOR
Flash .
But in the instruction manual they say NOR is only for emergency and can
not
be written by dfu-util. Is this a mistake in the wiki?
still got my om, but anyway ...
i think what it means is the
Hi There,
First off: Congratulations to the folk who've made openmoko happen and
thank you very much :-D
I've been wanting one of these devices for a very long time, and now
that they are here and among us the time has arrived to purchase one.
Only there's a slight snag, the UK distributor
Short translation: Your packet has begun its trip today!
Christoph sent my Freerunner without even knowing for sure that he's getting
the payment (but I told him that the bank transfer has been initiated [which
is true]) - he suggested praising him on the ml and this is just what I want
to do:
Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Short translation: Your packet has begun its trip today!
Christoph sent my Freerunner without even knowing for sure that he's getting
the payment (but I told him that the bank transfer has been initiated [which
is true]) - he suggested praising him on
Mark Sterling wrote:
Hi There,
First off: Congratulations to the folk who've made openmoko happen and
thank you very much :-D
I've been wanting one of these devices for a very long time, and now
that they are here and among us the time has arrived to purchase one.
Only there's a slight
On Wednesday, 2. July 2008, Marcel wrote:
Short translation: Your packet has begun its trip today!
Mine is canceled by myself today. :( Guess what was the reason...
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I´m still waiting for this message!
Short translation: Your packet has begun its trip today!
Christoph sent my Freerunner without even knowing for sure that he's
getting
the payment (but I told him that the bank
What's the reason? the delay?
I'm waiting to know when my FR will be shiped from Pulster too.
On Wed, July 2, 2008 17:19, Roland Häder wrote:
On Wednesday, 2. July 2008, Marcel wrote:
Short translation: Your packet has begun its trip today!
Mine is canceled by myself today. :( Guess what was
It seems Pulster is really busy, sorting orders. It is also a probability
that he's not going to give any response before he actually has more FRs to
ship. I put an order on 25th of June and so far only thing I have is an
automatic reply. Patience, my friend.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Diego
Maybe you guys could set a time that the web store will open, on
whatever day it does open? E.g. if it's not open by 10am, it's not
going to open that day.
That could give everybody a fair shot of getting their orders asap.
Matt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 03:11:04PM +0100, Mark Sterling wrote:
... the UK distributor truebox state they will
only send to the card holders address. Which is all fair enough in
terms of combating fraud. Alas I'll need to get one delivered to my
work address as I'm unlikely to be at home for
Maybe you have to take into account the fact that computations could
probably run for much longer on the 11/780 than what could be possible
on a battery-powered FreeRunner.
But well, as far as I remember, it was also pretty difficult to get the
the Vax 11/780 into one's pocket. ;-)
Rodolphe
Le
Probably not so much effort. But the real challenge imo is:
- the UI and the communication between that UI and the backend
(scientific-oriented) software
- the wise specification of that backend (numerical vs. symbolic vs.
both, reusing existing software vs. new thing, simple vs. complex)
On Wednesday, 2. July 2008, Diego Fdez. Durán wrote:
What's the reason? the delay?
Nope. That would be fine. Low money. :(
I'm waiting to know when my FR will be shiped from Pulster too.
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Thanks for the links.
I agree the main challenge is the UI.
I think there is another challenge in defining the limits of the target
implementation and the (not-too-wrong) selection of the appropriate
scientific software to reuse.
There is plenty of existing implementations to get inspiration
Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Patience, my friend.
I have patience, but not when getting an automated response in
frigging German. I'm inches away from ordering somewhere else.
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These kind of devices produce that voltage in direct sunlight - but
only if there is no load connected (open circuit voltage) - the
connection to the device will pull the voltage down to circ. 5V. This
is the same as with the larger panels - a 12V panel will produce 20V
open circuit.
solar.george
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 00:04 +0200, Diego Fdez. Durán wrote:
El mar, 01-07-2008 a las 13:22 -0700, steve escribió:
A deeper back cover is an option. The cad files are open. I also thought of
an external battery pack
What about this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/7d34/ ?
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 12:16 +0200, Jay Vaughan wrote:
The point is - what can we *developers* target for our end users?
Without some stability on this image issue, 3rd-party developers are
gonna get screwed. There may well be a market for new apps on
OpenMoko; but not if there is no
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 12:24 -0500, Nelson Castillo wrote:
Doesn't IM requiere permanent connection? For status updates, etc?
Not necessarily. A lot of us used IM back in the old dial-up days.
I've done a lot of thinking on this subject over the last several years
and tried several systems with
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 20:54 +0800, xiangfu wrote:
may be can use SMS control the remote NEO like send
#neo_command shutdown -h now
then the neo poweroff : )
Something like this has been floating around the mailing list for months
(or more) now. Personally, I'm hoping that the SMS stack in
Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
do you think a student should have raw access to
Matlab+Mathematica+Octave
+any-other-thing-you-can-thinkof
I'm an engineering student and I've been looking everywhere for a
calculator with a bigger screen and better dot pitch with colors and
being
Thanks,
Tried to contact Harry by email, but he's too busy :) I won't have
reliable internet connection in .tw (not to say none) so may I call
OM/FIC's office when I am in Taiwan?
Thanks
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
xming wrote:
Hi all,
I will be
May be useful for those in the San Francisco Bay Area
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:52:58 -0700
From: Ali Cehreli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: ACCU: Wednesday, July 9 - Tapio Tolvanen and Victor
If any of you are not buying from TrueBox ONLY because we cannot deliver
to an alternate address can you email me [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let me know.
Rob
Robin O'Leary wrote:
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 03:11:04PM +0100, Mark Sterling wrote:
... the UK distributor truebox state they will
only
Thank you arne and Alastair,
I got it.
I didn't know that I can flash the NAND when beeing in NOR.
All the best,
Michael
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 15:35:55 arne anka wrote:
written: Before you execute the command , please log in Neo FreeRunner
in NOR
Flash .
But in the instruction
2008/7/2 Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Maybe you guys could set a time that the web store will open, on
whatever day it does open? E.g. if it's not open by 10am, it's not
going to open that day.
That could give everybody a fair shot of getting their orders asap.
Matt
Or at least
Hi all,
I just answered a call on my neo1973 after 21 hours of
running FSO. I had the neo in suspend mode most of
the time. From hour 13 on I woke the neo up hourly
by calling from land line and put it back into suspend
manually (double press power button) after hanging
up on the caller side
Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card
doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get
the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only
the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards
form same
Hi Marc,
This is great news! Just to confirm the latest with the FSO image, when
I looked at the youtube video demo'ing the interface last it was only
capable of making/receiving calls - is this still the case?
Thanks,
Tim
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 23:42 +0200, Marc Bantle wrote:
Hi all,
I just
Hello to all the Spanish guys in the mailing list.
I received some mails from other guys interested in the FreeRunner asking
questions about it.
The most popular is: it's going to be translated to Spanish?
or the other one (in all the places): How much is the battery life? :D
I'm asking that
Thanks for the experiment, Marc!
Most of the honor is due our kernel wizards extraordinaire, of course.
With the recently posted NO_IDLE_HZ support and (perhaps) some of the cpufreq
patches, I'd expect even more.
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Hi Michael,
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 00:19 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Thanks for the experiment, Marc!
Most of the honor is due our kernel wizards extraordinaire, of course.
With the recently posted NO_IDLE_HZ support and (perhaps) some of the cpufreq
patches, I'd expect even
Am Donnerstag 03 Juli 2008 00:31:21 schrieb Tim Knapp:
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 00:19 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Thanks for the experiment, Marc!
Most of the honor is due our kernel wizards extraordinaire, of course.
With the recently posted NO_IDLE_HZ support and (perhaps) some
No... True... This only gets it cheaper... The hack is on you, but
this makes it legal to hack the device due to a special exception to
the DMCA allowing the hacking of phones to allow use with compatible
carriers after the original terms of contract were satisfied - In this
case the paying of the
Hey all,
The credit card is burning my fingers... but a few queries first.
Can the user data on the phone be backed up (and restored) before
changing or upgrading firmware? I assume it's like all other phones I've
had where everything is blitzed during an upgrade. I guess maybe it's
just a
Hi Arne,
Who is your network provider?
Where are you located?
Michael?
Arne Zachlod wrote:
Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card
doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get
the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there
Am Di 1. Juli 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I wonder, is it just me or are there enough people out there who are
interested in having more power? Enough people to make it worth while some
company (maybe openmoko) to tool up to produce a new back cover for the
gta02
thats a few mm
I've used my 3G card from ATT just fine.
-id
Arne Zachlod wrote:
Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card
doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get
the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only
the problem that
Am Mi 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Francesco Cat:
FR only accepts 100 or 500 mA current I think.
Nope, FR sets MAXIMUM USB current to either 0.1, 0.5, or 1A depending on
what's detected to be connected. This doesn't mean it won't work with 600mA.
Either you set FR to 500mA and lose ~100mA of power
A user named Bill Sun listed themselves on the GroupSales wiki page
for Los Angeles (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Los_Angeles)
but hasn't configured the wiki to allow me to contact them through the
wiki. If that person is still on the list here and can contact me,
that'd be great.
We
Ya, crazy busy..when will you be Taiwan?
Harry
xming ??:
Thanks,
Tried to contact Harry by email, but he's too busy :) I won't have
reliable internet connection in .tw (not to say none) so may I call
OM/FIC's office when I am in Taiwan?
Thanks
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Sean
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
Inquiring geek minds want to know... :)
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Hey guys,
I think not being about to use Skype on Neo is a big disadvantage. I don't
have a cell phone. I contact the world thru Internet solely, including
watching TV series or telephone calls. I think OPenMoko is opener than
Nokia's Meamo project. But one can use Skype on Nokia N810. Will
my packet from trisoft arrived 2nd of july at 9:30 a.m. \o/
got wifi/gps/mp3 working so far...
Hi all, my name is Tim and I'm addicted to Neo Freerunner
Marcel schrieb:
Short translation: Your packet has begun its trip today!
Christoph sent my Freerunner without even knowing for sure that
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:06:45 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Hey guys,
I think not being about to use Skype on Neo is a big disadvantage. I don't
have a cell phone. I contact the world thru Internet solely, including
watching TV series or telephone calls. I think OPenMoko
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
...there are plenty of open alternatives. :)
On that note, has anyone been able to run any open voip software running
on the FR?
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I don't think one can run Skype for N8xx on Neo coz the CPU instruction set
is different. I am not sure whether TI OMAP, the CPU used in N8xx, uses ARM
instruction set.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:25 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:06:45 -0500
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Greg Bonett:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
...there are plenty of open alternatives. :)
On that note, has anyone been able to run any open voip software running
on the FR?
You might try to crosscompile twinklephone.com. When stripping out (by
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has extra instructions in v5 compared to v4, but
the vast majority of the core is the same). it can be run.. if you
Could this hackery mean that Android is a possibility?
-Nick
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has extra instructions in v5 compared to v4, but
the vast
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 05:07:53 +0200 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
This needs attention for the FR ;-)
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/tyrant-alarm-clock-dials-your-contacts-if-you-refuse-to-wake/
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Kyle Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey all,
The credit card is burning my fingers... but a few queries first.
Can the user data on the phone be backed up (and restored) before
changing or upgrading firmware? I assume it's like all other phones
I've
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has extra instructions in v5 compared to v4, but
the vast
Hi Michael,
my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany.
Arne
Michael Shiloh schrieb:
Hi Arne,
Who is your network provider?
Where are you located?
Michael?
Arne Zachlod wrote:
Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card
doesn't function with
What order number did you have? Their website still says they are doing
testing and will ship the devices later.
Michael
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 03:23:21 schrieb Tim:
my packet from trisoft arrived 2nd of july at 9:30 a.m. \o/
got wifi/gps/mp3 working so far...
Hi all, my name is Tim
Jon Pomeroy schrieb:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
Inquiring geek minds want to know... :)
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