Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-13 Thread Jean-Francois Rousval
Hello ; For information, I have the same problem in France with a SIM card provided by Orange three months ago. My Freerunner is running correctly with old Orange's SIM card. steve a écrit : Since germany is an important market for us, Perhaps we should create a page on the wiki Listing

Re: Web Browser Zoom?

2008-07-13 Thread Michael Kluge
Al Johnson schrieb: On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote: Al Johnson schrieb: On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote: Brian C schrieb: I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser (and/or change the font size). Is this

Howto hide keyboard (Was: Re: minimo (browser on freerunner))

2008-07-13 Thread Michael Kluge
arne anka schrieb: i just built minimo and cellwriter for the freerunner (gta02), which went surprisingly well ... make build-package-minimo and make build-package-cellwriter the hardes part was finding the packages afterwards. i put them into two tar-balls, *dbg, *-dev, *-doc and the

Howto hide keyboard (Re: minimo (browser on freerunner))

2008-07-13 Thread Michael Kluge
arne anka schrieb: with minimo there's always 1/3 of the screen occupied by the keyboard (if somebody knows how to make that more flexible, ie the keyboard popping up when necessary, let me know). for ipk see http://www.ginguppin.de/node/16

Re: Howto hide keyboard (Was: Re: minimo (browser on freerunner))

2008-07-13 Thread Michael Kluge
Michael Kluge schrieb: arne anka schrieb: i just built minimo and cellwriter for the freerunner (gta02), which went surprisingly well ... make build-package-minimo and make build-package-cellwriter the hardes part was finding the packages afterwards. i put them into two tar-balls, *dbg,

Re: Howto hide keyboard (Was: Re: minimo (browser on freerunner))

2008-07-13 Thread Michael Kluge
Michael Kluge schrieb: Michael Kluge schrieb: arne anka schrieb: i just built minimo and cellwriter for the freerunner (gta02), which went surprisingly well ... make build-package-minimo and make build-package-cellwriter the hardes part was finding the packages afterwards. i put them

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Yorick Moko
there is some talk about this on the devel-list: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-July/003560.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-July/003562.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-July/003563.html On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:40

Re: minimo (browser on freerunner)

2008-07-13 Thread Brian C
arne anka wrote: i just built minimo and cellwriter for the freerunner (gta02), which went surprisingly well ... for ipk see http://www.ginguppin.de/node/16 Thanks very much for the .ipk, which installed fine for me. However, I have not yet been to an https secure site that hasn't crashed

GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Ken Young
Ole Kliemann wrote: Funny... my experience has been completely contrary to this. When I first tried GPS, it got a fix within minutes at the open window. I then installed gpsdrive and did some other stuff. I did not get a fix anymore. I undid the software changes by starting from a fresh

Re: GPS issue

2008-07-13 Thread jonathan spooner
Yes, in the agps diagnostic tool under signal strength, if I put the free runner out doors on a table standing so its facing up the signal strength typically on sats high in the sky is around 28-30. Obviously its weaker for those sats lower in the sky. It was a fairly clear day. Also there

Re: Better keyboard?

2008-07-13 Thread Thomas Seiler
Hi Jim, thanks for testing! Indeed, I dont seem to wait for the popup window to be mapped before drawing onto it. This is a bug (tm) of type race condition. (The Freerunner has a faster CPU, and the bug gets visible :-) Bug is identified, will post a fix later today... If you want to fine tune

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Yorick Moko
Is there still hope this is not a hardware bug? On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Spooner wrote: I've been playing with my GPS and finally got a fix using agps diag tool. I stood the gta02 up on my garden table using a pop bottle :-) I think

Re: San Francisco Bay Area Meetup

2008-07-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
I would love some help with my getting started blog. There are many how-tos on the wiki but they need to be tested and verified before I'll put them on the gettingstartedopenmoko.wordpress.com. In a different thread we've discussed the quality of our wiki. Cleaning up the wiki will provide me

Re: dfu-util problems

2008-07-13 Thread Marcel
Did you try that as root? dfu-util should complain about not being able to claim the usb device (or similar...) if you're required to be root. -Marcel Am Sonntag 13 Juli 2008 07:10:29 schrieb joseph schlesinger: I haven't been able to flash my FR after booting either into NAND or NOR. I can

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Russell Sears
Yes, there is still hope. The current software drivers do not save any state between GPS locks, so the GPS device is needlessly re-downloading information from the satellites each time it turns on. Downloading the data seems to require a much better/more consistent signal than calculating the

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Ole Kliemann
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 03:48:14AM -0700, Russell Sears wrote: Yes, there is still hope. The current software drivers do not save any state between GPS locks, so the GPS device is needlessly re-downloading information from the satellites each time it turns on. Downloading the data seems

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Mikko Rauhala
su, 2008-07-13 kello 03:48 -0700, Russell Sears kirjoitti: The current software drivers do not save any state between GPS locks, so the GPS device is needlessly re-downloading information from the satellites each time it turns on. Downloading the data seems to require a much better/more

Re: Howto hide keyboard (Was: Re: minimo (browser on freerunner))

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
some hours ago someone already posted how to add the keyboard toggle: matchbox-panel-2 --start-applets systray,startup \ --end-applets openmoko-panel-clock,keyboard,openmoko-panel-battery,openmoko-panel-gsm,openmoko-panel-gps,openmoko-panel-usb,openmoko-p

Re: minimo (browser on freerunner)

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
Thanks very much for the .ipk, which installed fine for me. However, I have not yet been to an https secure site that hasn't crashed minimo. Is this expected? How might I capture more log info to figure out what's happening? dunno. i am in no way affiliated with minimo, just tried to build

Re: Howto hide keyboard (Was: Re: minimo (browser on freerunner))

2008-07-13 Thread Michael Kluge
Ups. Missed that. Looks good. Works :) Michael arne anka schrieb: some hours ago someone already posted how to add the keyboard toggle: matchbox-panel-2 --start-applets systray,startup \ --end-applets

MokSec - The Security Framework

2008-07-13 Thread Yorick Moko
This mail was posted on the devel list (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-July/003594.html). Thought it would interest a lot of people who are not subscribed to that list: Hi Guys, a few months ago we have planned to improve the security of our beloved Neo, after we have

Re: MokSec - The Security Framework

2008-07-13 Thread Bumbl
It would be more important to not run everything as root I think Yorick Moko wrote: This mail was posted on the devel list (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-July/003594.html). Thought it would interest a lot of people who are not subscribed to that list: Hi Guys, a

Re: How to remove matchbox-keyboard and restore multitap-pad?

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
Do you know what may be the problem with multitap-pad not showing up? i am not sure if the stack (2007.2) is able to manage two or more input methods at all. matchbox-input-manager may be a help -- but i never did test it and there's no sufficient description what exactly the package does.

Re: MokSec - The Security Framework

2008-07-13 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi, this is perhaps not directly in the scope of your project but perhaps it inspires someones else: A spam filter for SMS. :) Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Homezone Icon for O2 in Germany

2008-07-13 Thread Robert Schuster
Damn, this community rules! smurfy - phil schrieb: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/om-homezone/ I will throw this into OpenEmbedded. :) Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Better keyboard?

2008-07-13 Thread Jim Morris
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Konstantin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, there is: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards FWIW, In the future, I wish (as a user of Openmoko devices (currently 1973 and FreeRunner)) to install any number of

Re: Homezone Icon for O2 in Germany

2008-07-13 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi. smurfy - phil schrieb: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/om-homezone/ Could you please distribute the sources in the files section? Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Better keyboard?

2008-07-13 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Is this one available anywhere? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Input_Method It looks pretty useable to me, at least I could see the keys. I'd like to as this too... Where is that keyboard? Is there any old code to be used (maybe after an

Re: clarification: images vs upgrade

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
hope this helps not totally sure :-) flashing and doing opkg update opkg upgrade are basically interchangeable, right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
there seems to be no use of the workarounds/fixes discussed earlier -- does anybody use the ubx-tool or whatever was discussed to feed informations to the u-blox on startup, thus significantly decreasing ttff? http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/browser/developers/alphaone/u-blox there were some

unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi all last night, my qtopia mean that the batteries are down and i have to charge them...it was 2 o`clock AM and nobody will phone me at this time...so, i don`t charge them and let the batteries run down... now, if i put the charging unit on it, i just hear some damped tones out from the

Re: clarification: images vs upgrade

2008-07-13 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 03:34:59PM +0200, arne anka wrote: hope this helps not totally sure :-) flashing and doing opkg update opkg upgrade are basically interchangeable, right? If I understand it correctly, no. If you upgrade, you get new versions of each installed package. If you

Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Francesco Cat
have you tried removing the battery and start up it only with the USB cable? 2008/7/13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi all last night, my qtopia mean that the batteries are down and i have to charge them...it was 2 o`clock AM and nobody will phone me at this time...so, i don`t charge

Re: clarification: images vs upgrade

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
If I understand it correctly, no. If you upgrade, you get new versions of each installed package. If you flash, you lose all software you installed ”over“ the basic system. let's forget about additional packages or changed settings for the moment. a new image should contain newer versions of

AW: Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
yes, i triedbut it went nothing, beside the flashing from the AUX-button all 5 sec. combined with a strange trrr out from the speaker.. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 13.07.2008 15:48 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], List for Openmoko community

Re: dfu-util problems

2008-07-13 Thread joseph schlesinger
Running it as root does not work, nor does passing a --device parameter. I should mention that I've also tried a number of different linux host machines and usb ports on each. Could it be a defective phone? Marcel wrote: Did you try that as root? dfu-util should complain about not being

Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Marcel
Once I had to use the 230V charger instead of the normal pc-cable to get it booting again, maybe it can suck more energy from that. (Although it reports getting 500mAh from usb, too.) -Marcel Am Sonntag 13 Juli 2008 15:48:53 schrieb Francesco Cat: have you tried removing the battery and start

Re: dfu-util problems

2008-07-13 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
On Sunday 13 July 2008, joseph schlesinger wrote: Running it as root does not work, nor does passing a --device parameter.  I should mention that I've also tried a number of different linux host machines and usb ports on each.  Could it be a defective phone? This is what I need to run as root

Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
while surfing the device-owners list i've stumbled over this: Sometimes it happened (I think to all of us! ;) ) that NEO1973's battery goesfully discharged, and for this I follow the instruction on the wiki pages(detach battery 20 seconds, attach to USB, wait 1 hour, start the Phone).

AW: Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I`ve tried the 230V charger and the pc-cable too... Is there any institution for the debug board used with freerunner? Or is it the same as for neo 1973; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3 Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 13.07.2008 16:22 An: List

RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-13 Thread steve
Sean toldme this already existed somewhere -Original Message- From: Michael Shiloh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:55 AM To: steve Cc: 'List for Openmoko community discussion'; Brenda Wang Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? Brenda, I

AW: Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I`ve put right now the freerunner into my PC. Now, I`ll wait for 1 h. and check it again My usb-port should supply 500 mAh, cuz in the past, I`ve charged my freerunner over it I`ve the qtopia image installed, not the ASU...But I tried to start the boot-loader too, which is the

RE: San Francisco Bay Area Meetup

2008-07-13 Thread steve
This should be a community effort -Original Message- From: Michael Shiloh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 3:12 AM To: steve Cc: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: Re: San Francisco Bay Area Meetup I would love some help with my getting started

RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread steve
If your battery falls below a certain level then FreeRunner sometimes will not charge it. We are working on fixes for this but in the short term you have these options. 1. Jump start your battery. Michael will explain how, Takes 5 seconds. 2. Get a stand alone battery charger from Nokia ( for

Re: OSCON get together

2008-07-13 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Dirk Bergstrom wrote: Are any of you going to be at OSCON? Do you want to do a BoF session, or schedule some other get together? I will be there all week and would love to BoF. -- Asheesh. -- Noncombatant: A dead Quaker. -- Ambrose Bierce

AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ok...I`ll wait for Michael`s explanation... thx Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 13.07.2008 17:16 An: List for Openmoko community discussioncommunity@lists.openmoko.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: Michael Shiloh[EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: unable to start up

wiki:gps: rephrasing?

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
hi, i found http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems#Basic_GPS_debugging which starts as follows: ... (the screen the right way up, with the top of the phone facing up, and the screen facing the horizon) ... well, i have to confess my command of english is not sufficient to understand

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
wow -- that is very unfortunate... indeed phone which is useless as a phone would sound like a failure. I hope openmoko engineers and developers resolve the issue (bug report trace seems to reveal some improvements). Thanks for making us aware (my FR is still on its way) On Sun, 13 Jul 2008,

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-13 Thread Søren Kristiansen
He's probably talking about the carriers page on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers I personally think it needs an update. There aren't that many carriers listed and some more information about the actual sim cards would be nice. 2008/7/13 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sean toldme

Re: Homezone Icon for O2 in Germany

2008-07-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 13.07.2008, 01:25 +0200 schrieb smurfy - phil: But if you want try it yourself: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/om-homezone/ Nice! I’m having problems installing the ipkg on a current 2007.2 freerunner, but I’m new in this business, so I might be doing something

Re: wiki:gps: rephrasing?

2008-07-13 Thread Søren Kristiansen
It just means that the internal gps antenna (which is placed in the top of the freerunner) should be pointing upwards. Your phone should be standing up not lieing on a table or something :-) 2008/7/13 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, i found

RE: Ordering and shipping from Koolu in Canada

2008-07-13 Thread steve
Loading dock for Trucks. A boat from SF to Toronto would be a neat trick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of c_r Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:50 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Ordering and shipping from Koolu in

Re: Homezone Icon for O2 in Germany

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
gtk+-fastscaling provides gtk+ -- so no need for gtk+. either the dependencies of the homezone app need to be more accurate or -- the better way -- opkg should handle that more flexible, evaluating the provides sections of packages installed. for the time being opkg install -force-depends

RE: Ordering and shipping from Koolu in Canada

2008-07-13 Thread Brian Beattie
On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 09:05 -0700, steve wrote: Loading dock for Trucks. A boat from SF to Toronto would be a neat trick. no trick, just the long way round, SF - Panama - St Lawrence Seaway - Lake Erie - Toronto -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread steve
I use mine. My kids used theirs till I gave it away to somebody else. That said, some people have expereince audio issues. Engineering is on the issue. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yaroslav Halchenko Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008

RE: Ordering and shipping from Koolu in Canada

2008-07-13 Thread steve
Ontario I thought. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Beattie Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:21 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: Ordering and shipping from Koolu in Canada On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 09:05 -0700,

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Diego Fernández Durán
I use the FR as a phone. And I trying to figure out where can I apply my C, C++, Gtk knowledge to help in the development. A list of small things that must be done will be appreciated, so anybody of us can use our free time to read the code, write a small patch and summit it to a om developer.

GPS issue related to GPS antenna selector ?

2008-07-13 Thread Philippe Guillebert
Hello, Thanks to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Hardware_Issues , I ran into the following (and quite scary) thread : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-April/55.html So I was wondering, maybe the poor GPS performance issue many FR seem to have, especially on the

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Philippe Guillebert
Diego Fernández Durán wrote: I use the FR as a phone. And I trying to figure out where can I apply my C, C++, Gtk knowledge to help in the development. A list of small things that must be done will be appreciated, so anybody of us can use our free time to read the code, write a small patch

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread BlueStar88
arne anka schrieb: there seems to be no use of the workarounds/fixes discussed earlier -- does anybody use the ubx-tool or whatever was discussed to feed informations to the u-blox on startup, thus significantly decreasing ttff?

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Antenna is pointing front longaxis. You have to hold device upright (lanyard hole to ground, AUX-key to sky)! /jOERG Am Sa 12. Juli 2008 schrieb Jonathan Spooner: I've been playing with my GPS and finally got a fix using agps diag tool. I stood the gta02 up on my garden table using a pop

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Antenna is pointing front longaxis. You have to hold device upright (lanyard hole to ground, AUX-key to sky)! /jOERG Am Di 8. Juli 2008 schrieb atweb: Hello, On Monday, I had a fix after an hour (eating by mom and laying FR in my card at the north side of the house). Today, the GPS found

Re: Pulster DHL and Correos Spain

2008-07-13 Thread Alex Stanev
I am sorry to add Bulgaria to the list of shame. Once the parcel get to our country, DHL gives it in Bulgarian post's hands. After that they are about 8(eight) to 30(thirty) *business* days for internal delivery. Maybe they want to fr-moko-play too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christoph Pulster wrote:

Re: Homezone Icon for O2 in Germany

2008-07-13 Thread smurfy - phil
Hey, i'm really new to the bitbaker stuff :) i also noticed, that after some new build of the app it wants to download gtk+ and fails. i really don't know why this happens. if you do a removal of the gtk+-fastscaling and then a install of gtk+ it works, also, gtk+ installs a new version of

Re: OSCON get together

2008-07-13 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Asheesh Laroia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Dirk Bergstrom wrote: Are any of you going to be at OSCON? Do you want to do a BoF session, or schedule some other get together? I will be there all week and would love to BoF. -- Asheesh. --

RE: Robotics and Openmoko

2008-07-13 Thread steve
We need Openmoko robot wars. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Harrison Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 9:25 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Robotics and Openmoko I have a blog at: http://www.devcentre.org Under the science

RE: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-13 Thread steve
I have the same iGO. Have used it without problem with my freerunner for a long while -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C R McClenaghan Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:44 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Brenda Wang Subject:

Re: BAY AREA OM FANS

2008-07-13 Thread Adilson Oliveira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 steve escreveu: Linux world is coming this August and Michael and I have a intresting plan to Involve the community in the booths, give away free stuff ( like debug boards and spares ), And make a movie about our community members. So as we

Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-13 Thread Thomas B.
Hi! On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 04:40:09AM +0200, Cédric Berger wrote: I would like to boot Qtopia from SD, but couldn't yet... Can I do that with the image of Qtopia you mentioned ? I extracted the files form the .jffs2 and copied them on the microSD card. I then put the uImage bin in /boot

Qtopia Speakerphone

2008-07-13 Thread Yochai Gal
Hi all, the qtopia image makes the FreeRunner almost a usable phone, but I have a problem. I was able to get the audio to work by creating the symlink below, but the speakerphone still doesn't work --- it emits a loud beep sound instead. Any ideas? Thanks so much. lln -s

Re: Better keyboard?

2008-07-13 Thread Jim Morris
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Well... I got it! :) SVN deletes, but it doesn't forget the old code, so you can get it taking the last revision available (r1471) as I've written in this wiki section: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Input_Method#Getting_this_keyboard Since I've no

Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What is the right place to discuss Qtopia on Openmoko?

2008-07-13 Thread Thomas B.
Hi! On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 06:48:41AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Kevin Dean wrote: Plugging a Freerunner up via USB to a Debian system while running this image doesn't appear to charge. Is this a purely visual thing, or is Qtopia unable to charge a Freerunner? I'm assuming that since the

OT: Do Linux-oriented companies use Linux?

2008-07-13 Thread Richard Bennett
Hi, I'm interested in promoting the use of Linux at the workplace. I've found that invariably policies at companies make it harder to use Linux as they will prohibit its use on the network, or use MS-centric tools like Exchange or proprietary document formats or software that requires

MokSec - The Security Framework

2008-07-13 Thread Alex Oberhauser
Bumbl wrote: It would be more important to not run everything as root I think This will be also a main focus. When we receive the Freerunners, we will see how fast we can change this bad state. Robert Schuster wrote: Hi, this is perhaps not directly in the scope of your project but perhaps it

AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I`ve done a jump start with a ericsson-battery, which have the same Volt. Now my FR has started up and the battery is charging :-) Thanks again for the tip! Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 13.07.2008 17:16 An: List for Openmoko community

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-13 Thread malte
Hi list, I got myself a Kingston SDC4/4GB microSD card. While this piece is working properly in a cardreader connected to a laptop - using it with the freerunner is impossible due to i/o errors. This includes accessing filesystemobjects and even the partition table. The errors occur almost

Antwerp group buy

2008-07-13 Thread Richard Bennett
Hi all, We're at about 7 confirmed people around Antwerp, Belgium, who will be placing a group-order, probably from Germany. That way we should save considerably on postage and get a discounted purchase price. Anyone who'd like to join us to order within the next week or so, and can come to

Re: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread arne anka
I`ve done a jump start care to elaborate? what does jump start mean? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS issue related to GPS antenna selector ?

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 13. Juli 2008 schrieb Philippe Guillebert: Hello, Thanks to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Hardware_Issues , I ran into the following (and quite scary) thread : http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-April/55.html So I was wondering, maybe the poor GPS

Re: which list to write to (was Re: x offset in landscape mode)

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 10. Juli 2008 schrieb Stroller: On 10 Jul 2008, at 07:17, Michael Kluge wrote: It is probably the best idea to write to both lists (I was not aware of the other list up to now). Urg, if you must, for the present. IMO it's better if the correct list was simply addressed in the

AW: Re: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It mean the same as one know this from a car with a very low battery... (bridged ) just put another battery (I think it`s important, that the second battery have the same Volt) parallel to the original battery. If so, the FR can take the power from the two batteries... Ursprüngliche

Re: dfu-util problems

2008-07-13 Thread joseph schlesinger
Nice script, thank you. It works perfectly for setting up networking and sharing the host internet connection. But dfu-utils still doesn't work. Eildert Groeneveld wrote: On Sunday 13 July 2008, joseph schlesinger wrote: Running it as root does not work, nor does passing a --device

Re: Fast questions (email, GPRS, WiFi...)

2008-07-13 Thread Łukasz Holetzke
I've been trying for several hours to get wifi working, it never seems to connect although it can see my station. I tried this too as it makes sense to turn off usb0, but that didn't seem to work either, I wrote this script to make it easy from console (I also tried ifconfig usb0

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Russell Sears
That sounds like a different problem than I have. People have reported many different failure modes: - Everything works. The phone gets a reliable fix in ~5-15 minutes if you baby it enough. (This might be improved w/ better drivers...) - The software is somehow messed up, and there are

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 10. Juli 2008 schrieb ian douglas: Shawn Rutledge wrote: What about on the GTA01? The biggest I have tried so far is 2 gig because I wasn't sure if SDHC was working. I sold my GTA01 months ago earlier this year, so I can only test on my GTA02v5. I imagine someone with a v6

Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-07-13 Thread Cédric Berger
Thanks a lot, I really missed that 2 points... now I could get it boot the last Qtopia image (extracted from the jffs2) from the microSD I can start some testing ! :-) First boot was ok, pin unlocked, gsm network ok, first sight ok No sound... but I've read there was something to do to

mailing list merge

2008-07-13 Thread Arthur Marsh
Hi, I saw a post on device-owners about some openmoko mailing list changes, but as I'm subscribed via gmane.org and for some reason email address scrambling was enabled, so any email addresses in headers or messages (unless '@' is replaced by other text e.g. ' at ') they are completely

Re: Ordering and shipping from Koolu in Canada

2008-07-13 Thread Ian Darwin
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 09:05:00AM -0700, steve wrote: Loading dock for Trucks. A boat from SF to Toronto would be a neat trick. That's what the Panama Canal is for. A bit indirect though. You could also try the North West Passage :-) ___

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-13 Thread Joachim Steiger
steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. hi steve, michael, brenda, community. that does not make real sense. the issues we are seeing with some sim-cards are not carrier-related, but related to which

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-13 Thread Adam Talbot
Let us see if I can help with this. All my new cards do not work. I did clean off the numbers.. Even if it is not needed. http://www.batbuilds.com/working_front.jpg http://www.batbuilds.com/working_back.jpg http://www.batbuilds.com/failed_front.jpg http://www.batbuilds.com/failed_back.jpg Hope

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Scott Derrick
I don't get some people have experienced audio issues? Is this an indication of the level of quality control in manufacture ring? Scott steve wrote: I use mine. My kids used theirs till I gave it away to somebody else. That said, some people have expereince audio issues. Engineering is on

Re: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
No use in connecting a FR to any source to charge bat, as long as it doesn't boot up. Actually it drains battery even further, instead of charging. Battery is only charged when booting succeeds. Jumpstart the battery is very unlikely to help you out. Get FR booted by any means 1.:Remove

Re: Better keyboard?

2008-07-13 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Jim Morris ha scritto: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Well... I got it! :) SVN deletes, but it doesn't forget the old code, so you can get it taking the last revision available (r1471) as I've written in this wiki section: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Input_Method#Getting_this_keyboard

Re: MokSec - The Security Framework

2008-07-13 Thread Paul Jimenez
Alex Oberhauser wrote: Bumbl wrote: It would be more important to not run everything as root I think This will be also a main focus. When we receive the Freerunners, we will see how fast we can change this bad state. Personally, I'd be more interested in an encrypted

Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
steve wrote: If your battery falls below a certain level then FreeRunner sometimes will not charge it. We are working on fixes for this but in the short term you have these options. 1. Jump start your battery. Michael will explain how, Takes 5 seconds. If I remember right, there's also

Re: Information about mailinglist merge

2008-07-13 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 7/14/08 Maximilian Bauer wrote: the mailinglist device-owners will change its name to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from this point on we will deactivate [EMAIL PROTECTED] and .com. please use the new list instead. Let me add a bit more here...Tony Tu will be moderating this support list and

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Scott Derrick: I don't get some people have experienced audio issues? Is this an indication of the level of quality control in manufacture ring? Scott This is a short form of description of the *very* random and statistic nature of this issue. We got some

Re: wiki:gps: rephrasing?

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Antenna is pointing front longaxis. You have to hold device upright (lanyard hole to ground, AUX-key to sky)! /jOERG Am So 13. Juli 2008 schrieb arne anka: hi, i found http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems#Basic_GPS_debugging which starts as follows: ... (the screen the right way

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile we are about to improve the hw to cope with this (a little difficult without exact idea of the way this happens). Meaning, the improvement will show up in a new rev of the Freerunner, or in the next model

Re: Qtopia Speakerphone

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 13. Juli 2008 schrieb Yochai Gal: Hi all, the qtopia image makes the FreeRunner almost a usable phone, but I have a problem. I was able to get the audio to work by creating the symlink below, but the speakerphone still doesn't work --- it emits a loud beep sound instead. Any ideas?

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