Re: Ears and FR - Display Locker

2008-07-17 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
I would suggest re-using the Display Locker program created for 2007.2 that's referenced at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Current_Applications#List_.2F_Description_2 on the wiki. It was, to my understanding, added as a standard application quite some time ago. Also thanks to the core Openmoko

Xlib python

2008-07-17 Thread malane
I'm attempting to run a python script which imports Xlib.display (among other Xlib modules), but I don't have the module installed. Anyone know which package this module is from? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
My old, cheap 7-11 ATT pay-as-you-go Nokia phone had a neat feature which would disable the Caller ID. Are there any AT commands I can issue on the FR to do the same feature? I'm guessing it was a feature of the GSM modem, or maybe it was an instruction to the carrier network, issued via the

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Justin Wong
Great post. Maybe you can put it on the wiki somewhere, so it's visible to more people. Cheers! Justin On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Alasal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A summary of everything related to the GPS problem. Does the people of Openmoko know the problem? - Yes. Do they work

Re: Ears and FR - Display Locker

2008-07-17 Thread Nicolas Pichon
Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: I would suggest re-using the Display Locker program created for 2007.2 that's referenced at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Current_Applications#List_.2F_Description_2 on the wiki. It was, to my understanding, added as a standard application quite some time ago.

Re: GPS external antenna socket

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:38:48AM -0700, C R McClenaghan wrote: Joseph Reeves schrieb: It's mmcx; there's plenty of commercially available antennas available for cheap that will fit. What's the connector that is on the *outside* of the FR? And is that for GPS? Or WiFi? Or GSM? Or

Attachment: application/x-qtopia-sms-1

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
I'm getting SMS's on the FR (using the ASU image). Some look great, and others are in some weird MIME format: Attachment: application/x-qtopia-sms-1 How do I decode and read these? Why are some SMS's OK and others are not? Is this a bug and should I report it? Thanks. -ken

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Konstantin
Marek Lindner schrieb: On Thursday, 17. July 2008 03:38:11 Alasal wrote: Does they have a solution? - yes. Their is already a highly alpha software workaround. The software just disables the SD card when the GPS tries to get it's first fix They are also examine a hardware solution. The

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
Not the greatest bit of WIKI formatting, but it's there at least and linked from the GPS page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_GPS_Problems -ken -- On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:49:43PM -0700, Justin Wong wrote: Great post. Maybe you can put it on the wiki somewhere, so it's visible

Re: Web server on the phone?

2008-07-17 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Wednesday 16 July 2008, Dirk Bergstrom wrote: Since I'm quite familiar with Django (http://www.djangoproject.com), I thought I might just run the Django development server, which has a toy-ish httpd server built in. That way I'd already have python running, so I'd avoid all the

What is exposure?

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
On my phone (with ASU software), there is an app called Exposure. Clicking on it does nothing. What is this app and what is it supposed to do? -ken ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Any update on the SIM bug?

2008-07-17 Thread Adam Talbot
Just looking for an update from the OM team on the SIM card bug? -Adam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-17 Thread BrendaWang
I am wiki full time editor now. Here is the what I done these month. 1. Openmoko wiki system is Media wiki 1.2, since we upgrade our wiki system, month ago , I start to ask our IT put the extension on wiki. For example, category tree extension.

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Ben Batt
/lurk Justin Wong wrote: Great post. Maybe you can put it on the wiki somewhere, so it's visible to more people. I thought I'd take the plunge. A wikified version of the summary is up at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems#Summary Ben ___

Re: GPS external antenna socket

2008-07-17 Thread Konstantin
Ken Restivo schrieb: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:38:48AM -0700, C R McClenaghan wrote: Joseph Reeves schrieb: It's mmcx; there's plenty of commercially available antennas available for cheap that will fit. What's the connector that is on the *outside* of the FR? And is that for GPS?

Re: wifi

2008-07-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
I've spent a great deal of time messing with WIFI also. Once I get some more experience with the OM platform, I might contribute to building a gui network manager. One thing that really needs to be clear among us all right now is that there are those who have hacked things together to

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Flyin_bbb8
I think the Freerunner has enough RAM to actually make that possible (ringtones and etc. may be stored in tmpfs) :) Maybe when just running the GPS application and there's no fix some of the important data from the SD can be put in the RAM (just in case a call comes or any other things like

Re: Which Distro?

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:17:07AM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:28:52 -0700 Vijay Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi Carsten ... On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: all are included. learn the one u like most - that

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 04:18:42PM +0200, Benedikt Schindler wrote: hi, i think the openmoko team is doing a great job. and everyone was onto it, to have a fast and good solution. so i think the real interesting question now is: Had someone tested Andy's

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
I haven't seen a GPS device yet, including TomTom and Garmin devices, that is completely free of defects during this stage of operation. My Becker device has no problems whatsoever reading maps while maintaining a very tight fix, and I've driven all over Austria and never noticed such

Re: Happy customer

2008-07-17 Thread Bastian Feder
Hey you! I agree with Steven. I always have a hard time leaving the FR to go to work. I just want to thank you for the increadible work you did on the FR! I got it last tuesday and spend the last few days playing around. The issue with the GPS was truely bad, but hey you got it fixed in

Re: Battery Lifetime

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:33:18AM -0700, Adam Talbot wrote: dimlock != suspend :-) If the screen is off, the system is still fully running, and sucking down power. When you suspend, all running processes are cashed into ram, then the rest of the hardware is turned off, with the exception

Re: GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?

2008-07-17 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:50:48 +0200, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old, cheap 7-11 ATT pay-as-you-go Nokia phone had a neat feature which would disable the Caller ID. Are there any AT commands I can issue on the FR to do the same feature? I'm guessing it was a feature of the GSM

CRCFAIL?

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
Poking around in dmesg output, I see lots of these: CRCFAIL 0x1a3f CRCFAIL 0x1a3f But no indication of where they're coming from. They seem to occur at random times during boot. What is CRC failing, and what, if anything, might be broken by that? -ken

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Kai Römer
Hi people, 2008/7/16 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: With the help of AGPS you can shorten it probably to 15 seconds. I have heard this for about thousand times now. NO! Never got those values. TTFF with AGPS is about 38 secs without AGPS about 48 secs good condition. Tested with 6 OM in

Re: CRCFAIL?

2008-07-17 Thread Flyin_bbb8
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poking around in dmesg output, I see lots of these: CRCFAIL 0x1a3f CRCFAIL 0x1a3f But no indication of where they're coming from. They seem to occur at random times during boot. What is CRC failing, and what, if

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 17 July 2008, Kai Römer wrote: Hi people, 2008/7/16 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: With the help of AGPS you can shorten it probably to 15 seconds. I have heard this for about thousand times now. NO! Never got those values. TTFF with AGPS is about 38 secs without AGPS about 48

Re: GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:12:51AM +0200, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:50:48 +0200, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old, cheap 7-11 ATT pay-as-you-go Nokia phone had a neat feature which would disable the Caller ID. Are there any AT commands I can issue on

Re: Replacing ASU/Qtopia keyboard with matchbox keyboard?

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 09:05:06PM +0200, nick loeve wrote: Hi On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 04:04:11PM +0200, nick loeve wrote: Hi On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:17 PM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008

Re: wifi

2008-07-17 Thread julien cubizolles
Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 20:03 +0200, julien cubizolles a écrit : But it was just once, when I got the Freerunner. Now, after several opkg upgrades (don't know if it's related thoug), I can't get it to get a lease anymore. It's working again ! Here are my settings :

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread nick loeve
Hi again, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 5:26 PM, nick loeve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andy (nice work BTW, you and the rest of the team) On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said:

Re: Better keyboard?

2008-07-17 Thread julien cubizolles
Le samedi 12 juillet 2008 à 18:16 +0200, Thomas Seiler a écrit : On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there only the two keyboards for freerunner? I have tried the matchbox one from the site, and it is way too small for my old eyes to use. A while

Re: Web server on the phone?

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
XUL requires a gecko based browser and last I heard, wasn't very efficient. Given that the freerunner browser is going to be based on webkit, this isn't ideal :) minimo is available and minimo seems to run xul -- at least i got a xul based app, that seems to run smoothly on minimo. i did not

Re: GSM AT command to disable/change caller ID?

2008-07-17 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:33:46 +0200, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The command appears to be CLIR, and, unfortunately, there's no global setting for it. #31#PhoneNumber, means I have to type it before each call. On land phones, there's a *70 (or is it *71), to disable caller ID

Re: Time share the SD Card , was Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
scott, could you please disable html mails and send only plain text? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-17 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:54:41 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. When running with the battery in (charged enough) and a USB cable plugged into a computer, removing the battery makes the phone die. It seems to turn off several seconds after the battery is removed. Probably

Re: Which Distro?

2008-07-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:28:52 -0700 Vijay Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Assuming that your aspirations for the phone are to create something that is more than just a tinkertoy for a few systems nerds like me, and that you are hoping to

Re: New Freerunner, factory image - Registering...

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
I'll work on it and report back. Are we compiling a database of which SIMs work, which don't and which need to be fooled with a little? what we came up with until now was: 3g (umts) sim with 1.8V are known to fail. om is working to fix that. your description rather indicates an individual

Re: Battery Lifetime

2008-07-17 Thread Kalle Happonen
Hi, I just installed script, and made a menu command for it to see what it does to my battery. However, the phone wakes up inside a few minutes. Someone earlier wrote: That's currently the crux of the problem, and why I don't yet use suspend. It resumes on cell registration messages, and each

Re: Battery Lifetime

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
Dim+nolock is choosen, as dim+lock seems to crash the device and I have to remove the battery to reboot (nothing else works). Does anybody else dim+lock is supposed to wake only when you touch the power button, imo. ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Problems with building openmoko-sample with toolchain

2008-07-17 Thread Stephen Pape
I'm having this same exact problem on SuSE 11. I don't have any other scripts being ran, and opening a brand new terminal, running '/usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env', then attempting to run 'make' produce the error. I also had to use autogen.sh --host= but I used arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi

Re: Web server on the phone?

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
Sure, but that doesn't seem to stop most of the world from doing it for desktop applications as well... ;-) people are wearing black lace blouses with pink bras (just seen in the tube) -- it does not mean that it is a good idea ... ___ Openmoko

Re: Fwd: Freerunner // SD Card Patches in stable

2008-07-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: I just moved these patches to the stable kernel branch so in the next day they will become available in normal distribution kernels. I only tested it with Sandisk 512MB we ship, it's possible it breaks some

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
Are we not pioneers of the open source mobile phone revolution? And remember: It's the pioneers who take the arrows. not if the go along well with the native tribes ... ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Feedreader

2008-07-17 Thread julien cubizolles
Is there a rss feed reader available for the freerunner ? I saw a mention of a openmoko-feedreader2 somewhere but can't find it in the repos. Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
If each of the original volunteers agree I will request a list with the title wiki to be set up. Please each of you indicate your agreement (or not) on the following list: Jay Vaughan AGREE. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Xlib python

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
try opkg search Xlib* | grep python ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/17 nick loeve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just tried the latest mwebster-andy kernel from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels which has the sdcard clock patches, and now i get even better signals, and fix from cold start outside in 48secs. So the voltage patch certainly helped, and the

Re: Which Distro?

2008-07-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
i repeat... why ONE? why does everyone think we HAVE to support just ONE? why? Because developers want to have a stable distro to target against, and that means knowing whats in the distro already so that packages can be delivered reliably that do not have massive dependencies. does

Re: Freerunner CAD Files - IGES ans STEP formats availalbe - Who wants to test them?

2008-07-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
Would be interesting to see what backgrounds our community comes from. I work in the safety-critical realm for THALES, specifically the base platform group, doing device driver and toolchain development. I've been a Linux coder/user since the day Linus posted to the minix-list, and I'm

Re: Ears and FR - Display Locker

2008-07-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
Also thanks to the core Openmoko team. I should be getting my FreeRunner Saturday. Actually having the hardware will make me far more interested in developing for it again. Likewise. I'm definitely looking forward to the arrival of my Freerunner so I can go from being a moaning pedant

FS: Openmoko Freerunner NIB

2008-07-17 Thread Tracy R Reed
I accidentally ended up with an extra Freerunner. I thought the group buy wasn't going to happen so I purchased one via the openmoko website. Then somehow the group buy hit critical mass and as I had already promised to buy one I was committed. So now I would like to sell my

Re: Ears and FR

2008-07-17 Thread Tilman Baumann
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Mi 16. Juli 2008 schrieb Joseph Reeves: I do it all the time ;-) I'd like a keypad lock during calls. I know that there's some options available during a call, but I'd much rather have to unlock them first. Of course, it doesn't have to be a lock that's

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 2008/7/17 nick loeve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | I just tried the latest mwebster-andy kernel from | http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels which has the sdcard clock | patches, and now i get even better signals,

Wiki search

2008-07-17 Thread Sven Klomp
Dear Brenda, please modify the configuration of the Openmoko wiki, so queries with less than four letters can be found. It might be helpful with all the abbreviations like ASU, FSO, SHR :-) Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Ears and FR - Display Locker

2008-07-17 Thread Bastian Feder
hey! I really like the alternative themes, but did not find how to change the default to an alternative theme. Ideas? thx Bastian On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also thanks to the core Openmoko team. I should be getting my FreeRunner Saturday.

Re: Battery Lifetime

2008-07-17 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 20:12 -0600, Scott Derrick wrote: you got a SD card plugged in? Nope (due to our GPS issue ;) ) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-17 Thread Andreas Zuber
Does it also boots from the SD Card? I also have a 8GB SD Card and Linux was able to mount and use it. but uboot has some problems reading from the card. I dont know if this also happens with current uboot versions.. Am Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2008 20.45:06 schrieb ian douglas: Hey all, Got my

Re: Which Distro?

2008-07-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:46:15 -0700 Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: i repeat... why ONE? why does everyone think we HAVE to support just ONE? why? 1) reliability, bugfixes, fit and finish 2) critical mass of applications 3) usability 4) it's a smartphone, I want to be able to

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread papa-piet
Jay Vaughan schrieb: If you can't understand why people would be frustrated to learn that something as simple as testing GPS with the SD Card in the phone hasn't been done, then you shouldn't be selling hardware. So maybe you shold apply for the job of Head-Test-Designer and

Re: Which Distro?

2008-07-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:55:55 +0200 Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: i repeat... why ONE? why does everyone think we HAVE to support just ONE? why? Because developers want to have a stable distro to target against, and that means knowing whats in the distro already so that

Re: Which Distro?

2008-07-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
yes you can. it's called dependencies. if you need something that isnt on the system by default - it is sucked in as a dependency. :) see my other mail. they are all based on the same OS (openembedded). This just has to be made really clear to future 3rd party developers, is all.

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
[regarding Jay Vaughan] *IF THIS ISSUE was that trivial, did you reported the solution?* i think everything to be said is said already -- and more than once and necessary. while everybody is free to repeat those rants over and over if would be for the best of the list if it could STOP

Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-17 Thread Scott Derrick
It appears that th index is already out of date. I was just looking at this locker program http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Quicksand#zedlock looked under software and Nada! Are we aware it is out of date? How many other pages aren't listed? This is a big problem Scott BrendaWang

Re: wifi

2008-07-17 Thread Bumbl
I do get nameresolution only sometimes although resolv.conf lists the correct nameserver. You have to try a few ifup eth0 and ifdown eth0 and it has proven helpful to run commands more than once (e.g. ping www.openmoko.org 2-3 times after each other) Bastian Feder wrote: Hi, I also managed

Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-17 Thread digger vermont
On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 10:38 +0800, Marek Lindner wrote: On Thursday, 17. July 2008 08:25:54 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: BTW, has anyone asked Brenda if she wants in on this? And have time for it? Happy to see that you bring that point up. I had a long and healthy discussion with her. The

Re: wifi

2008-07-17 Thread Bumbl
For me udhcpc only fails the first time it is run to get the correct data If you run it immediatly after the first try it succeeds. Tommi Kärkkäinen wrote: Stephen Shelton kirjoitti: Most specifically, I keep getting messages such as ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT] which would lead me to believe

Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread Søren Kristiansen
Hello As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner? I'm still waiting for my freerunner but I'd like some sort of protection for it once it arrives. How invisible is it? I've watched a lot of videos on youtube and on zagg's homepage and it looks like the shield

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
Yeah, definitely with you on the 'moving on' part .. glad to see there is a workaround for the GPS+SD problems, and I'm also watching the SD +Glamo hacking with keen interest .. j. On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:19 PM, arne anka wrote: [regarding Jay Vaughan] *IF THIS ISSUE was that trivial, did

Re: wifi

2008-07-17 Thread Tommi Kärkkäinen
Indeed it does. I started thinking if there was something like that late last night, but wasn't sure if it's replicable. It seems it is now. Thanks for the info. Bumbl kirjoitti: For me udhcpc only fails the first time it is run to get the correct data If you run it immediatly after the first

Re: opkg gcc

2008-07-17 Thread John Reese
Greg Bonett wrote: Hey is anyone else having trouble with the version of gcc in opkg? I can run a 'opkg install gcc' without any trouble but I still get 'gcc: not found' when i try to use it. looks like it make some files in /usr/lib/gcc and /usr/libexec/gcc I've had the exact same

Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Søren Kristiansen wrote: Hello As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner? I'm still waiting for my freerunner but I'd like some sort of protection for it once it arrives. I didn't yet. I'm still waiting for its arrive. -- Treviño's World - Life and

Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread John Reese
Søren Kristiansen wrote: Hello As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner? I'm still waiting for my freerunner but I'd like some sort of protection for it once it arrives. How invisible is it? I've watched a lot of videos on youtube and on zagg's

Re: Wiki search

2008-07-17 Thread Scott Derrick
Can the search provide alternate spellings like google does? Showing the spellings that would provide a hit? This would be very helpful for those spelling challenged among us. Scott Sven Klomp wrote: Dear Brenda, please modify the configuration of the Openmoko wiki, so queries with less

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Nicanor Babula
C'mon guys! I'm sick of all this s**t!! Jay, if you don't like Freerunner go away and shut up, else stay but still shut up! Jay Vaughan wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedYeah, definitely with you on the 'moving on' part .. glad to see there is a workaround for

Dark Smudges on neo1973 screen .. heat-related?

2008-07-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
Hi All, Maybe its karma or something but in the last 24 hours I've noticed that there is a very dark smudge on the LCD on my neo1973 .. this happened after I left the neo1973 on all night, and it appears to be a permanently damaged LCD - nothing I do has been able to get rid of it. Could

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread Brenda Wang
Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko. Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki more easy to use. And now , If you want to know what we have on wiki , Please use this Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Brenda Scott Derrick ??: Perhaps this is

Re: development documentation?

2008-07-17 Thread Steven **
If you'd like to develop a single app, you should check out http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain If you'd like to modify the core apps, I think you need http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokomakefile -Steven On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Stephen Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to

Re: development documentation?

2008-07-17 Thread Yorick Moko
there are a lot of usefull links on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Official_Index_Page for example under Application development tool y On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Stephen Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to get involved with development. Is there any good

Re: Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-17 Thread Steven **
That's a user page. I can understand why that wouldn't show up in the index. Make the zedlock section a real page first. And tag it with the Software category. However, I can't imagine a hand-edited index to ever be accurate for more than a day. I'd stick with the auto-generated index pages

Re: Battery Lifetime

2008-07-17 Thread Adam Talbot
apm -s ??? -Adam On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 01:09 -0700, Ken Restivo wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:33:18AM -0700, Adam Talbot wrote: dimlock != suspend :-) If the screen is off, the system is still fully running, and sucking down power. When you suspend, all running processes are cashed

Re: New Freerunner, factory image - Registering...

2008-07-17 Thread Greg Bonett
Although I'm still having trouble getting this SIM card to work but I think it's doable. It actually registered last night and I was able to make and receive a phone call. After a reboot it went back to Registering It sounds like the contacts lining up issue is not the problem. I think its

Re: New Freerunner, factory image - Registering...

2008-07-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
You could post the output of logread -f On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 09:42 -0500, Greg Bonett wrote: Although I'm still having trouble getting this SIM card to work but I think it's doable. It actually registered last night and I was able to make and receive a phone call. After a reboot it went

service with NorthState in NC

2008-07-17 Thread Josh Thompson
I'm sending this just in case there is someone trying to use a FreeRunner with service from NorthState Communications in North Carolina. They are a reseller of ATT service. I know they used to own the cell towers in their area. I'm not sure if they still do. I can't get my phone to register

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-17 Thread Bastian Feder
hey Marco, do you know where to find the patches? Would be nice to know where to find them. br Bastian On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Zuber ha scritto: Does it also boots from the SD Card? I also have a 8GB SD Card and Linux was

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Russell Sears
I did an opkg update on the factory image last night (~7-8 PM PST), and now GPS fix times are less than a minute. The update downloaded a new kernel: # opkg status kernel Package: kernel Version: 2:2.6.24+git20+287b292cf95edbd82dc63085ae5f0167a6e8141f-r0 Depends: kernel-2.6.24 Status: install

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Russell Sears
I changed the part that says you can't read from SD when GPS is being turned on. The patch doesn't work that way. Instead, it turns off the SD clock when the SD card isn't being accessed, right? -Rusty Ben Batt wrote: /lurk Justin Wong wrote: Great post. Maybe you can put it on the

Re: Dark Smudges on neo1973 screen .. heat-related?

2008-07-17 Thread Andy Selby
Maybe its karma or something but in the last 24 hours I've noticed that there is a very dark smudge on the LCD on my neo1973 .. this happened after I left the neo1973 on all night, and it appears to be a permanently damaged LCD - nothing I do has been able to get rid of it. Could it be

Re: Ears and FR - Display Locker

2008-07-17 Thread Bastian Feder
Hey, in my /etc/matchbox/session there is nothing obvious pointing to the display locker. I searched the matchbox docu,but wasn't successful at all. Then I rememdered reading a the display locker Wiki page whis says the Display Locker is noe part of the neod. That lead me to '/usr/share/neod/'

Re: $106 in Brokerage!!?!!?!

2008-07-17 Thread Dave O'Connor
I'll second that. UPS suck in a way that makes Dyson jealous. I ordered a 10 pack and debug board, rang UPS when the package was in transit to have a credit card on the account to cover GST so there'd be no bond fees and to give them a business number to negate PST and they seem to have not

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/17 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]: || http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels which has the sdcard clock | I tried the kernel too, but it didn't help. Didn't get any fixes in 3 | minutes when having SD card in (not in use, ie. maps not there). | Removed the SD card and got a TTFF in 34

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Russell Sears schrieb: I changed the part that says you can't read from SD when GPS is being turned on. The patch doesn't work that way. Instead, it turns off the SD clock when the SD card isn't being accessed, right? that's right

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Edward A. Falk
Maybe when just running the GPS application and there's no fix some of the important data from the SD can be put in the RAM (just in case a call comes or any other things like maps etc.) then when the fix is there the RAM can drop some of the unneeded stuff :) I don't know the internals of

Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-17 Thread Michael Shiloh
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're pretty close to consensus here. Let's set up the list and move on. If each of the original volunteers agree I will request a list with the title wiki to be set up.

Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-17 Thread Michael Shiloh
Marek Lindner wrote: On Thursday, 17. July 2008 08:25:54 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: BTW, has anyone asked Brenda if she wants in on this? And have time for it? Happy to see that you bring that point up. I had a long and healthy discussion with her. The bottom line is: - She really

RE: Wiki editors

2008-07-17 Thread Josh Monson
Is the wiki-editors list been created? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:44 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Wiki editors Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On Wed,

Re: Which Distro?

2008-07-17 Thread Michael Münch
Am Donnerstag 17 Juli 2008 14:05:59 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: the default keyboard is just as usable as the matchbox one. there is a full qwerty layout file available for it. Where is it available? If there are arrow keys on it I have everything I need. Michael

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
I don't know the internals of the Linux memory card stack, but would it be possible to modify the kernel to turn the power off (or at least the as far as i understand, that is exactly what andy's current patch is doing (for the sole purpose of power saving) and what is considered as a

SIM recommendation pls

2008-07-17 Thread Josh Monson
I know there is a list of SIMS for use w/ the Neo GTA02 on the site... But can someone recommend a SIM that they have not had any issues with and currently use ATT or preferably T-Mobile as a carrier in the states? cheers ___ Openmoko community

Re: Which Distro?

2008-07-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:49:28 +0200 (CEST) Michael Münch [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Am Donnerstag 17 Juli 2008 14:05:59 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: the default keyboard is just as usable as the matchbox one. there is a full qwerty layout file available for it. Where is it available? If

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