Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Matt Joyce
I don't mean to be overly critical, the process you've described is trivial enough, and thank you for sharing, but why is is designed like this? Surely if the exact same steps are performed before building the software, it will be much easier for many more people. It just seem insane to be

Re: How to see how full my battery is?

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 18:20 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: | Hi, | | kazaam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | There's some symbol in the try looking a bit like a black battery | with a lightning symbol in it.

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-07 Thread Gianluigi
Alle 04:04, giovedì 7 agosto 2008, Robert William Hutton ha scritto: 5. In the meantime the network has accepted that the SMS can't be sent, and puts it into some kind of wait queue. Is not possible, after the GSM is fully up, say to the network I'm ready, is something waiting for me? -- We

Re: How to see how full my battery is?

2008-08-07 Thread W.Kenworthy
Something wasnt right - the next resume X didnt come back leaving a console display without any means of data entry. Required the battery to be removed to reboot it. And it was ~1hr when I discovered it and the battery had lost 30% in that time - was down to 4% :) Now its drawing ~166000 when I

Re: How to see how full my battery is?

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | What units is this in? - I get a slightly varying 505500 | | uA... that's a lot of power you're sucking there? Normally Freerunner | is around 190mA with backlight on full or 90mA idle with backlight

Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2

2008-08-07 Thread Fredrik Wendt
ons 2008-08-06 klockan 21:07 -0700 skrev Michael Shiloh: C R McClenaghan wrote: I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS working on FSO Milestone 2 release. This is for a Freerunner, if it matters. snip I'll post something to the wiki if there's

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Guillaume Chereau
Matt Joyce wrote: I don't mean to be overly critical, the process you've described is trivial enough, and thank you for sharing, but why is is designed like this? I agree with you that it is not the way we should do. For me the decision to start or stop the ringing tone should be left to

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-07 Thread Cédric DUFOUIL
I finally received an answer from ZAGG. They say they will ship another one ... So now ... Wait See ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread vale
I don't think that one works, it has to have 3 plastic rings on the 2.5 connector. this one will only give you mono IMO. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/2.5mm-neo-to-3.5mm-stereo-adaptor-tp677280p677785.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Dale Maggee
Guillaume Chereau wrote: Just for your information, with the new events system, it will soon be different. You will have to edit the rule.yaml file. It looks like this now : - # This rule will play a ring tone when a call is incoming trigger: CallStatus() filters:

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Wolfgang Silbermayr
vale wrote: I don't think that one works, it has to have 3 plastic rings on the 2.5 connector. this one will only give you mono IMO. It needs only 2 plastic rings which means three contacts. The fourth contact would be necessary for hands-free equipment with a microphone. In case you just want

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Aaron Sowry
SIDs for a ringtone? . . . *THAT'S* . . . *AWESOME*! . . I can't wait to have my phone play the Bubble Bobble theme song to me when it rings :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-07 Thread Mikael Berthe
* Mikael Berthe [2008-08-05 14:56 +0200]: I've ordered one too, I haven't received it. I complained and they suppposedly sent me another one, which I haven't received either (the 2nd one was reshipped on Jully 25th). They told me (by email) they were sending them via UPS with no

Re: FR at golem.de

2008-08-07 Thread Jay Vaughan
Yes, but you can use it only if you promise that you will not show to others how to use it (NDA)! So, for me is like it doesn't exist! IF only we had OpenGL on the Freerunner by now, imagine the amazing apps we could write .. geeze guys, what a big disappointment the Glamo is .. ; -- Jay

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-07 Thread Kalle Happonen
I got my order confirmation 27.7, shipping confirmation 28.7 and received it yesterday. I chose the slowest cheapes delivery, so I think it was in time. Delivery to France. Got one for my Nokia N810 too at the same time :) Cheers, Kalle Cédric DUFOUIL wrote: I finally received an answer from

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-07 Thread Cédric DUFOUIL
Thanks for your update ;) By the way, I don't care if I receive it in one or two month, I just want to receive it ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Dale Maggee
Aaron Sowry wrote: SIDs for a ringtone? . . . *THAT'S* . . . *AWESOME*! . . I can't wait to have my phone play the Bubble Bobble theme song to me when it rings :) Yeah, Bubble Bobble works, but my favorite has always been the music from R-type... I also loved the

Re: source code for openembedded-common?

2008-08-07 Thread arne anka
according to dpkg -I openembedded-common_0.2-3_all.deb the maintainer's email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Jay Vaughan
Yeah, Bubble Bobble works, but my favorite has always been the music from R-type... I also loved the music from RoboCop and Maniac Mansion. Crazy Climber FTW!! BTW, we need an openmoko-emu-porters list .. ;) ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread vale
yeah but the distances don't match on a 2 ring adapter. L and R Channel won't contact on the right place i think, but not sure. try it ;) i`m intresting in finding the right adapter too. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/2.5mm-neo-to-3.5mm-stereo-adaptor-tp677280p677935.html

Re: FR at golem.de

2008-08-07 Thread Aaron Sowry
Jay Vaughan wrote: Yes, but you can use it only if you promise that you will not show to others how to use it (NDA)! So, for me is like it doesn't exist! IF only we had OpenGL on the Freerunner by now, imagine the amazing apps we could write .. geeze guys, what a big disappointment

Wiki statistic numbers

2008-08-07 Thread BrendaWang
Hi, all : I make a page , and put the google analytic number here for reference. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers Feel free to let me know what kind of statistics number is more useful? Then I will put this on this page. Brenda

ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread simarillion
I'm a little bit confused. On the devel List I read that the real ASU image has a black Wallpaper. But where can I download it? I downloaded this one http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080807/openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk--20080807-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

Re: FR at golem.de

2008-08-07 Thread Jay Vaughan
Agreed. Why does nobody seem to be addressing/acknowledging this issue (or am I just looking in the wrong places)? An April 2008 post on the mailing list suggests that SMedia want $15,000 to release the docs under NDA to anyone outside of Openmoko employees. If this is the case, and nobody

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Selinger
yeah but the distances don't match on a 2 ring adapter. L and R Channel won't contact on the right place i think, but not sure. try it ;) i`m intresting in finding the right adapter too. I had one of those 2ring adapters on my MDA Compact which also has 4 contacts on it's 2.5 headset plug.

Re: FR at golem.de

2008-08-07 Thread vasco . nevoa
Agreed. Why does nobody seem to be addressing/acknowledging this issue (or am I just looking in the wrong places)? An April 2008 post on the mailing list suggests that SMedia want $15,000 to release the docs under NDA to anyone outside of Openmoko employees. If this is the case, and nobody

Re: FR at golem.de

2008-08-07 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which prompts me to ask: when FIC/OM chose this chip, what was their plan? they knew that it had IP strings attached, and yet they chose it anyway. They must have had some kind of plan to make it compatible with Open

Re: new galician team for translate openmoko

2008-08-07 Thread Frco. Javier Rial
Hi Evgeny: It looks like this list is not for localizers?? Am I wrong?? Is there any special list for localizers?? If there is one, let me know. Thanks. About translation, I'm working in OpenOffice.org 3 localization process, so after OpenOffice.org 3 release date (late september), I will start

no usb-ethernet

2008-08-07 Thread Benedikt Schindler
I'm a little bit confused. On the devel List I read that the real ASU image has a black Wallpaper. But where can I download it? I downloaded this one http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080807/openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk--20080807-om-gta02

search for pages that contain external link

2008-08-07 Thread BrendaWang
Hi, We enable the LinkSearch function of openmoko wiki. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LinkSearch This link allows to search for pages that contain external link. You can use this link from Special Page==Search Web link or use this link directly :

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread elh
Hi, yeah but the distances don't match on a 2 ring adapter. L and R Channel won't contact on the right place i think, but not sure. I can confirm this. I've tried a stereo adapter from www.reichelt.de (just enter NTA 230 in the left search field), and I was only getting mono output. After that

Re: FR at golem.de

2008-08-07 Thread vasco . nevoa
Citando Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, I think, making pessure to the firm that produce Glamo, is the only possibility to get very open our hardware. Given the legal situation, I agree. Let's pester them with a ton of emails! :) Maybe we could get the FSF and GNU into this as well? We

Re: no usb-ethernet

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | But i also have installed a new kernel. | ( | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080806/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin | ) | | Maybe the kernel didn't have the usb-ethernet-device as

Re: no usb-ethernet

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Tansella
could you connect to your freerunner over usb? Yes but only after a reboot of the Freerunner. The strange thing is at the devel list Carsten Haitzler wrote: whatever you are seeing is not ASU - not what OM is developing it is some derivation that is different. i can tell you that simply by the

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Rod Whitby
simarillion wrote: I'm a little bit confused. On the devel List I read that the real ASU image has a black Wallpaper. But where can I download it? I downloaded this one http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080807/openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk

Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Tansella
On Thursday 07 August 2008 05:45:11 Michael Shiloh wrote: Please someone create a wiki page for Freerunner biking enthusiasts. There seem to be quite a few of you and it would be great to consolidate all this information in one place. I don't bike much. My motive is to have a great example to

Re: no usb-ethernet

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | could you connect to your freerunner over usb? | | Yes but only after a reboot of the Freerunner. | | The strange thing is at the devel list Carsten Haitzler wrote: | | whatever you are seeing is not ASU -

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Benito Torres
Hi, On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:21 (+0200), elh wrote: yeah but the distances don't match on a 2 ring adapter. L and R Channel won't contact on the right place i think, but not sure. I can confirm this. Me too. My cheap adaptor from the supermarket (Watson 9612, not found online) has two

Opening the Glamo

2008-08-07 Thread Aaron Sowry
So, I think, making pessure to the firm that produce Glamo, is the only possibility to get very open our hardware. Given the legal situation, I agree. Let's pester them with a ton of emails! :) Maybe we could get the FSF and GNU into this as well? We might as well use all the

/qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
if you decide to use alarm clock in the qtopia -- it would drain the battery much more rapidly. Usually charge is sufficient for me to hold for a day (24h) but with alarm it doesn't survive through the night -- I wake up and phone is dead :-/ -- .-.

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Rod Whitby schrieb: So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct branch. -- Rod we should editing the wiki then. because the

Re: Opening the Glamo

2008-08-07 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am in accord with you: We must to know well what to ask to SMedia. And we must to be coordinated. We are the end user, and our money go to SMedia too. So is right that they must to listen to us. Because if every of us start to write to SMedia

Re: Opening the Glamo

2008-08-07 Thread Alex Kavanagh
Aaron Sowry wrote, On 07/08/08 13:03: So, I think, making pessure to the firm that produce Glamo, is the only possibility to get very open our hardware. Given the legal situation, I agree. Let's pester them with a ton of emails! :) Maybe we could get the FSF and GNU into

Re: /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 empty?

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Mittwoch 06 August 2008 11:00:41 schrieb Eildert Groeneveld: After trying FSO and installing distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk I did a opkg update and upgrade, without any effect. When looking at /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 : no wonder, it is empty. Will there be no

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/8/7 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my normal headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already have such a thing and can confirm it works properly (both stereo channels where they ought to be)? See MP35A at

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Marcel
Sounds good, I think I'm going to order one of them. -Marcel Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 15:48:50 schrieb Timo Jyrinki: 2008/8/7 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my normal headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread vale
let us now if it works :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/2.5mm-neo-to-3.5mm-stereo-adaptor-tp677280p678724.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Openmoko presentation

2008-08-07 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | sudo sh -c 'echo foo sources.list' \-- Fixed. Thanks! SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Freerunner ?hibernates? while flashing?

2008-08-07 Thread Rorschach
Hi, when I go into the NOR-Flash to flash my rootfs or the kernel and I do nothing for ~30 sec the screen gets dark. What happens? Is it just hibernating or shutting down? I have to press the aux-button a lot but this is really annonying. But the real question: what happens if I flash an image

Re: Pulsters outstanding orders

2008-08-07 Thread vasco . nevoa
I'm happy to anounce that the Portuguese group buy from Pulster has been correctly satisfied. We got the mega-package yesterday. Now I'm waiting for the group leader to break it up and give us our phones. We'll make a mini-party, I'm sure. Vasco. Citando [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all. I've

Is my freerunner defect?

2008-08-07 Thread Rorschach
Hi, I read that yesterday someone asked the same question but there was no good answer. I don't know how full my freerunner is so I can't take it with me when I go out because I'm afraid it's going to be deep unloaded and bricked than. On the getting started guid is written we shall load our

Re: Freerunner ?hibernates? while flashing?

2008-08-07 Thread Yorick Moko
setenv boot_menu_timeout 9 fixes this On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Rorschach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, when I go into the NOR-Flash to flash my rootfs or the kernel and I do nothing for ~30 sec the screen gets dark. What happens? Is it just hibernating or shutting down? I have

Re: Is my freerunner defect?

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, I read that yesterday someone asked the same question but there | was no good answer. I don't know how full my freerunner is so I can't | take it with me when I go out because I'm afraid it's going to

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Dimitri
Same here. I thought the fake ASU was the real ASU, as clearly stated by the wiki. After installing it, I had all sorts of problems: USB wasn't working right; it was very sluggish; it would crash within a few minutes... horrible. D Benedikt Schindler wrote: Rod Whitby schrieb: So whilst

Re: Freerunner ?hibernates? while flashing?

2008-08-07 Thread Rorschach
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:22:08 +0200 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: setenv boot_menu_timeout 9 fixes this thx for this answer :) But doesn't totally answer my question: what happens after this timeout? shutdown or suspend/hibernate? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Freerunner ?hibernates? while flashing?

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:22:08 +0200 | Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | setenv boot_menu_timeout 9 | fixes this | | thx for this answer :) | | But doesn't totally answer my question: what happens

Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Hello, After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to install this on my microSD card: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is totally flaky. After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install

Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride

2008-08-07 Thread Brad Midgley
Hey Looks like there still was no page so I created it: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Biking I didn't see how to add it to the technical category. Maybe someone can help out there. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello, | | After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to | install this on my microSD card: | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian | | I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Dear Kevin, thanks for writing your review, for us at Openmoko nothing is better than a genuine reality check from outside. Executive summary first: I understand that we have not done a very good job at communicating our software strategy, and I accept responsibility for that. In detail,

FSO: is zhone here to stay?

2008-08-07 Thread Craig B. Allen
I seem to remember reading that zhone is a test application and that FSO will not be developing applications. Is it correct to assume that the features of zhone - dialer, answer, etc. will eventually be replaced by other applications that are developed outside of the FSO project? If zhone is

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread john
Thanks for taking the time to respond as this does clarify a lot of questions in my mind! I feel my energy for development returning... Cheers, John. 2008/8/7 Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Kevin, thanks for writing your review, for us at Openmoko nothing is better than a genuine

Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

2008-08-07 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:39, Craig B. Allen wrote: Is it correct to assume that the features of zhone - dialer, answer, etc. will eventually be replaced by other applications that are developed outside of the FSO project? This is right. The main focus of the FSO is to deliver a

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe) That worked for me. :) Hope that helps. I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted | from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe) | | That worked for me. :) Hope that helps. | | I wished that the openmoko team

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Dale Maggee
Wolfgang, I just wanted to say thanks for this very informative response! :) -Dale Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Dear Kevin, thanks for writing your review, for us at Openmoko nothing is better than a genuine reality check from outside. Executive summary first: I understand that we have not done

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Daniel, Thanks for the answer. It's not working for me. I don't have any more the delta but there is a scale problem (top left corner matches but bottom right corner doesn't at all). Can you please copy paste your /etc/ts.conf and /etc/pointercal here? Thanks, Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
What I'm hoping for, is that the openmoko folks use the same software but start making .deb packages instead of .ipk ones :) So that it would be a phone. Although the worry, I suppose, is that the 256MB of internal flash wouldn't be pleased with Debian's full bash shell and such. Perhaps the

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Guys, Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not the only one to have this problem according to the forums. It will confuse people to discuss two different topics on the same topic. Thanks! Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:25 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

Re: Replacing Openembedded with Debian for Openmoko (was: Debian on FreeRunner)

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
It's ours now sucker! hahahah! On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:27:15 Gregoire Gentil wrote: Guys, Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not the only one to have this problem according to the forums. It will confuse people to discuss two different topics on the

Re: Replacing Openembedded with Debian for Openmoko (was: Debian on FreeRunner)

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Thanks! And I do vote for this BTW... Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:36 -0400, Daniel Benoy wrote: It's ours now sucker! hahahah! On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:27:15 Gregoire Gentil wrote: Guys, Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not the only

Re: SDcard holder - convenience rework

2008-08-07 Thread papa-piet
Hehe, i have had a similar idea, but in my case it was the battery. Thanks to jOERG i was able to improve my hack :) papa-piet http://freeyourphone.de Joerg Reisenweber schrieb: for a nice handle to save your fingernails and do no violence on SD-holder by using a knife etc, see:

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /mnt/debian/etc/pointercal 557 38667 -4654632 -51172 121 46965312 65536 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /mnt/debian/etc/ts.conf # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d #

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'm hoping for, is that the openmoko folks use the same software but start making .deb packages instead of .ipk ones :) So that it would be a phone. Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and debian (and fedora and gentoo)

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Steven **
I think you are being overly critical of a prototype. That is what Zhone is, right? It's prototype code to flesh out the framework. I know I tend to hard-code things when I'm first getting something working. It's a lot easier to debug things that way. -Steven On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:51 AM,

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread David Samblas
If those who make ASU are telling to us fake ASU is fake ASU why do you think fake ASU is a real ASU? It seems a beta version of some kind of FSO more than a ASU. It uses the same wallpapers that I have saw in a FSO light image I have tested before on Qemu. So You want ASU? then wait until

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Lorn Potter
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: if you decide to use alarm clock in the qtopia -- it would drain the battery much more rapidly. Usually charge is sufficient for me to hold for a day (24h) but with alarm it doesn't survive through the night -- I wake up and phone is dead :-/ the clock only uses

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Dimitri
You misunderstood me. NOW we know it was fake ASU. NOW. But 2 days ago, the WIKI said it was the actual ASU. The error was in the WIKI, not with the people who followed the WIKI's (now false) directions. D David Samblas wrote: If those who make ASU are telling to us fake ASU is fake ASU

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Lorn Potter
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Dear Kevin, thanks for writing your review, for us at Openmoko nothing is better than a genuine reality check from outside. Executive summary first: I understand that we have not done a very good job at communicating our software strategy, and I accept

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Yogiz
[Long and detailed reply from Wolfgang Spraul] Thank you for the explanation. It cleared lots of things out for me as well. Keep doing the good job you do. Not only you but the rest of Openmoko team as well. You have my thanks and respect. Yogiz ___

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Brian Wilson
Is there an easy way to suspend for a time period (say 8 hours) or set a realtime clock to it wake up? I set BIOS this way on my desktop - cron shuts it down at midnight and BIOS wakes up every morning at 7. Works quite well to save power. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL

Re: SDcard holder - convenience rework

2008-08-07 Thread Lally Singh
Also, you can get adhesive tabs that will work just as well, and they're designed for the purpose. That way, everyone gets a colored part that isn't sticky. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:42 PM, papa-piet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehe, i have had a similar idea, but in my case it was the battery.

Re: GPRS internet connection applet

2008-08-07 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
hi Niccolo Am Mittwoch, den 06.08.2008, 10:47 +0200 schrieb Niccolo Rigacci: I just wondering if it exists an applet to start/stop the GPRS ppp connection (I use OM2007.2). Not officially - though SettingsGUI has a panel for GPRS. Following the guidelines of this page

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Yorick Moko
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Long and detailed reply from Wolfgang Spraul] Thank you for the explanation. It cleared lots of things out for me as well. Keep doing the good job you do. Not only you but the rest of Openmoko team as well. You have my thanks and

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-07 Thread Dan Weatherill
On Thursday 07 August 2008 03:04:02 Robert William Hutton wrote: Dan Weatherill wrote: If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone wakes up but does not receive a text message. The person sending the message does, however, receive a delivery report. This occurs in

Re: Tmobile GPRS

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag 05 August 2008 00:36:06 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: Sets up ppp with IP, DNS and (replaces) default route. However, after I disconnect (using mdbus PDP.DeactivateContext) zhone reports that there's no network signal - the signal strength bar is empty (black).

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Tilman Baumann
Brian Wilson wrote: Is there an easy way to suspend for a time period (say 8 hours) or set a realtime clock to it wake up? I set BIOS this way on my desktop - cron shuts it down at midnight and BIOS wakes up every morning at 7. Works quite well to save power. smart arse answer. There is no

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Mittwoch 06 August 2008 15:45:44 schrieb Eildert Groeneveld: are there any other packages, that can be installed in FSO or is all there is in openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080729-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary ? Further: gps does not seem to be working . Is there a was to switch off/on

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
well -- bringing openmoko's changes and novel packages into emdebian port [0] sounds like a great task which many would appreciate. It might be worth inquiring [1] people on suggestions and plausibility/interest of such a project. Then indeed it might become a point that we could simply run the

Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Brian Wilson
smart arse answer. There is no BIOS. ;) Not intentionally -- just drawing an analogy as a means of exposition Some time ago in any of the openmoko lists someone proposed a solution for RTC wakeup. I will try searching for it later. A block diagram of what's in the phone would be nice for

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
are there any other packages, that can be installed in FSO or is all there is in openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080729-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary You should be able to install more or less everything from any OM feed. -- :M: ___ Openmoko

Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics

2008-08-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod

Re: Some commentary on the new Openmoko direction, and a review of FSO

2008-08-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Thanks to both of you for clearing up the roadmap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece. On Thu, 07 Aug 2008, vale wrote: let us

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 08:51:52 schrieb Matt Joyce: I don't mean to be overly critical, the process you've described is trivial enough, and thank you for sharing, but why is is designed like this? Resources. I have only four people working on whole FSO and I prefer to concentrate on the

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 09:44:42 schrieb Dale Maggee: SIDs for a ringtone? . . . *THAT'S* . . . *AWESOME*! . . . /me adds this to the list of things you can't do on any other phone... :) This may be insane to a lot of people, but being forced into WAV or MP3 has been one of

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. We have both low level device control as well as high level (reference counted). For the high level, please use the org.freesmartphone.Usage API, for the low level control, please use e.g. the

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Kelvie Wong
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in bulk it

Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Stefan summarized it, that's our position officially. Let me add one thing though, taking off the Openmoko hat for a second: thinking aloud Coming out of the Linux on iPAQ, Zaurus, Motorola EZX, ..., world, with their semi-open platforms and lack of integration everywhere, I see a lot of

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-07 Thread Bruce Adams
I've had the impression, on other phones, that the GSM network could successfully deliver a message into the SIM card inside my phone, but if the phone software was too distracted to hear the initial notification from the SIM card about the new message, the phone wouldn't notice the message

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