Re: Substitute batteries

2008-08-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:49:05 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Newkirk wrote: My guess is that it incorporates some constants that depend on the actual battery pack. Note that I don't actually KNOW that it's in the battery, but previous ML posts by

Re: Tester please?

2008-08-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://newkirk.us/om/dnscache_2.1.5_armv4t.ipk and let me know of any Hmm, how do I build this from source? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-08-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: setup - so use x-ui.sh in the illume svn dir (it runs xephyr for you, sets up some modmappings for qtopia - not interesting on a desktop unless you have a desktop x86 build of the qtopia x11 port, and it runs e with the illume

Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging

2008-08-21 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Monday 18 August 2008, Charles-Henri Gros wrote: gdk_window_begin_paint_region gdk_window_end_paint It's funny, I did the opposite of what you did while working on my own version of tangoGPS, because I didn't like the white rectangles around. I'm afraid that using that method will negate

2008.08 - white border around icons in the launcher

2008-08-21 Thread Michael Kluge
Hi, any ideas how to remove this? Is this something in the illume theme? Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 2008.08 - qtopia calendar is quiet

2008-08-21 Thread Michael Kluge
Hmm. Does not work for me even after a fresh boot. Could please send me the relevant settings for this (if you know which are relevant ;) ) ? I'm not sure about all knobs that I could twist. It maybe even be a timezone problem. Michael Am Donnerstag, 21. August 2008 07:56:22 schrieb nickd:

Re: Tester please?

2008-08-21 Thread Rod Whitby
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://newkirk.us/om/dnscache_2.1.5_armv4t.ipk and let me know of any Hmm, how do I build this from source? Indeed - I'd be happy to test bitbake recipes for these ... -- Rod ___

Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

2008-08-21 Thread Rod Whitby
Kevin Fenzi wrote: I installed the unstable image, and tried to use either the unstable or testing feeds here, and I get: a bunch of: Assuming locally installed package is up to date. then a bunch of: * Packages were found, but none compatible with the architectures

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi, On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Benito Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you do that? For me, after an opkg upgrade with the fso-testing feeds pressing the AUX-button doesn't lock the screen anymore. Is there some other button/procedure now? Yes - I noticed that the AUX doesn't lock

Re: Official update feeds testing on downloads.openmoko.org

2008-08-21 Thread Olivier Berger
Kevin Zuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I've just noticed on a new testing repository on downloads.openmoko.org [1]. Are that the official update feeds for ASU or another distribution? Is the merge of the two branches finished? Should I use this repo instead of the zecke repo now?

Re: 2008.08 - qtopia calendar is quiet

2008-08-21 Thread nickd
Just had default settings for the Alarm plus adjusting the timezone. I think my clock is not persisting between boots so make sure your clock is right. Not sure if it's just me. -Nick Michael Kluge wrote: Hmm. Does not work for me even after a fresh boot. Could please send me the relevant

Re: 2008.08 - qtopia calendar is quiet

2008-08-21 Thread nickd
Oops missed the 2008.08 bit. I'm using the August 08 build of Qtopia not 2008.08 itself. Sorry. -Nick Michael Kluge wrote: Hmm. Does not work for me even after a fresh boot. Could please send me the relevant settings for this (if you know which are relevant ;) ) ? I'm not sure about all

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The connection between gllin and TangoGPS is not there on the fso-testing image (since we're waiting for some major frameworkd changes to stabilise before Mickey bumps the srcrev). If you apply the patches in FSO

Re: 2008.08 - qtopia calendar is quiet

2008-08-21 Thread Robert William Hutton
nickd wrote: I think my clock is not persisting between boots No matter which method you used above, sync the hardware clock with the system time to make your change persist over reboots http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Setting_Date_and_Time#Syncing_the_hardware_clock Cheers, Rob

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Update, see below. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, I just installed FSO testing (latest snapshot) on my Neo 1973. Neither POWER nor AUX buttons work. At all. Which process is supposed to monitor thoe in FSO? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

GNOME running on Freerunner

2008-08-21 Thread sparky mat
I managed to get the whole of GNOME running on Freerunner (using the Debian installer - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner ) Check out some screenshots below: http://www.sparkymat.net/images/gnome1.png http://www.sparkymat.net/images/gnome2.png http://www.sparkymat.net/images/gnome3.png

FSO testing on Neo 1973 - opkg update doesn't work

2008-08-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
One more thing: I have network connectivity, but 'opkg update' doesn't work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg update Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.gz Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed//all/Packages.sig Signature check failed Downloading

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:19:07 +0300 Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: 1. colors. what's up with your colors? are you on ppc? the 16bit engine assumes identical endianess to the host (for x) and doesnt do any proper changes. 2. looks like you installed illume, but its deifnitely not

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973 - opkg update doesn't work

2008-08-21 Thread Rod Whitby
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/... You might want to change that to the actual location of the feeds ... -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GNOME running on Freerunner

2008-08-21 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:57:43 +0530 sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I managed to get the whole of GNOME running on Freerunner (using the Debian installer - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner ) [...] Cool! I do not yet have a Freerunner, but would love to know that Pango also works,

Re: GNOME running on Freerunner

2008-08-21 Thread Michele Renda
Hi, It is very very nice. How much fast is it? I have now XFCE, and 128 Mb of ram seem to be that was the limit to have a normal use? How is for you? It take too much time to start? Thank your screenshot I had the idea to install epiphany under XFCE. It seem to be to don't have too much gnome

Re: GNOME running on Freerunner

2008-08-21 Thread xiangfu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 if the Freerunner have indian fonts file i think it is can display Hindi text. On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:57:43 +0530 sparky mat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I managed to get the whole of GNOME running on Freerunner (using the Debian installer -

Re: GNOME running on Freerunner

2008-08-21 Thread sparky mat
How much fast is it? I have now XFCE, and 128 Mb of ram seem to be that was the limit to have a normal use? Not that fast. Just barely usable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Bluetooth, WiFi and Zecke's feeds?

2008-08-21 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 August 2008, Christ van Willegen wrote: #!/bin/sh # Bring up bluetooth - power up module echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset

Re: Extended battery pack

2008-08-21 Thread Lothar Behrens
Hi, this are very interesting resources. Has anyone had also the idea to create a 'docking station' that would propably also contains batteries ? I mean to dock it on the side with the USB connector having 2/3 of the openmoko FR device in negative form, so the FR could snap into the

Re: GNOME running on Freerunner

2008-08-21 Thread sparky mat
Would it be possible for you to cut-and-paste the line of Hindi text below into gedit on the Freerunner, and take a screenshot. It would be much appreciated. नमस्ते Regards, Gora Will do that later in the evening and update you. ___ Openmoko

Re: Bluetooth, WiFi and Zecke's feeds?

2008-08-21 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Gabriel A. Devenyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have of, as yet, not been able to associate with my WRT54GL either, with any of the available distros (the kernels and wpa_supplicant are the same afterall). See the (completely ignored) bug

FSO milestone 2 on freerunner dial out problem

2008-08-21 Thread Xavier Vens
Hi All, I am the happy owner of a freerunner from now 2 weeks, I have tried several distribution but I stop my choice on FSO milestone 2. Yesterday, I was looking for a sim (Prepaid BASE in Belgium), my first test is to receive a call, what worked well. But when I try to compose an outgoing call,

Re: GNOME running on Freerunner

2008-08-21 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:56:29 +0800 xiangfu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] if the Freerunner have indian fonts file i think it is can display Hindi text. [...] Yeah, sorry. Forgot about that. A Hindi font is included in the ttf-indic fonts package on Debian, and a list of open-source Hindi fonts

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread arne anka
Yes - I noticed that the AUX doesn't lock the screen anymore. I liked that - I wish we will get it back. The screen saver just kicks in after some idle time has passed. pressing the pwr button for a few seconds does the trick mostly -- but there's no indication and you easily press too long

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Looks like we need swap after all. Swap on flash sounds crazy, but this would be a place where non live pages can be dumped. I assume the majority of the memory that causes problems like this is leaked memory or regular bloat. There seem to be some proposals how to make oom-kill behave more

[OT] Re: FSO milestone 2 on freerunner dial out problem

2008-08-21 Thread Jan Keymeulen
On Thu 21 August 2008 om 11:11:01 GMT Xavier Vens told us: Hi All, I am the happy owner of a freerunner from now 2 weeks, I have tried several distribution but I stop my choice on FSO milestone 2. Yesterday, I was looking for a sim (Prepaid BASE in Belgium), my first test is to receive a

Re: Substitute batteries

2008-08-21 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 21 August 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Makes perfect sense. Is it a custom IC, something off-the-shelf, or what? That I don't know. Joerg, any reason we don't open source this schematic, since we did all of GTA02? You already did ages ago, and it's been in the wiki for some time.

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:42:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: no.. you need to find who is leaking memory and beat them up! :) seriously. 128m is more than enough. it's almost overkill. needing swap (on a device like the freerunner) is a sign of stupid programming :) Looks like

Migration to 2008.08

2008-08-21 Thread Maciej Piechotka
1. Is it worthy to migrate to 2008.08 from 2007.02+daily feed? 2. How to import data (SMS + Phone Book) from 2007.02 into 2008.08. Regards PS. BTW how to delete contacts from SIM card? In 2007.07 it doesn't work - after restart they reappear. -- I've probably left my head... somewhere. Please

Re: GNOME running on Freerunner

2008-08-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 01:57:43PM +0530, sparky mat wrote: I managed to get the whole of GNOME running on Freerunner (using the Debian installer - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner ) Check out some screenshots below: http://www.sparkymat.net/images/gnome1.png

Re: Extended battery pack

2008-08-21 Thread Daniel Grivicic
You may want to try this too: http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/ On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Lothar Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, this are very interesting resources. Has anyone had also the idea to create a 'docking station' that would propably also contains batteries ? I

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:42:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: no.. you need to find who is leaking memory and beat them up! :) seriously. 128m is more than enough. it's almost overkill. needing swap (on a device like the freerunner) is a

Re: [OT] Re: FSO milestone 2 on freerunner dial out problem

2008-08-21 Thread Xavier Vens
To be more precise on the SIM; it is a pack prepaid from belgium carrefour mobile that costs 15 Euro. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Xavier Vens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My works to receive call, but not for dial out. How can i see the model of the sim card ? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:04

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:58:44PM +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:42:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: no.. you need to find who is leaking memory and beat them up! :) seriously. 128m is more than enough.

Re: Migration to 2008.08

2008-08-21 Thread Dale Maggee
1. I don't think so, mainly because of bug # 1766 - can't be used as a phone. YMMV. 2. negated by 1. Maciej Piechotka wrote: 1. Is it worthy to migrate to 2008.08 from 2007.02+daily feed? 2. How to import data (SMS + Phone Book) from 2007.02 into 2008.08. Regards PS. BTW how to delete

Re: [OT] Re: FSO milestone 2 on freerunner dial out problem

2008-08-21 Thread Yorick Moko
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Xavier Vens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be more precise on the SIM; it is a pack prepaid from belgium carrefour mobile that costs 15 Euro. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Xavier Vens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My works to receive call, but not for dial out.

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:58:44PM +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:42:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: no.. you need to find who is leaking memory and beat them up! :) seriously.

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 21 August 2008 11:31:23 schrieb arne anka: Yes - I noticed that the AUX doesn't lock the screen anymore. I liked that - I wish we will get it back. The screen saver just kicks in after some idle time has passed. pressing the pwr button for a few seconds does the trick mostly

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:58:44 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:42:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: no.. you need to find who is leaking memory and beat them up! :) seriously. 128m is more

Re: Freerunner CAD Files - IGES ans STEP formats availalbe - Who wants to test them?

2008-08-21 Thread Lothar Behrens
Hi, just a note: I knew about another CAD software, that will convert IGES or ProE format and is Open Source. See this link for more information: http://brlcad.org/ Regards Lothar -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT

Re: Official update feeds testing on downloads.openmoko.org

2008-08-21 Thread shawnzier
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 09:39:42AM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Kevin Zuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I've just noticed on a new testing repository on downloads.openmoko.org [1]. Are that the official update feeds for ASU or another distribution? Is the merge of the two branches

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread arne anka
would be nice if a led flashed or the device wiggled slightly. *nod* will come soon. i put a script to that effect into /etc/apm/suspend.d/ -- but it never got called, whereas scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d/ do. why is that? ___ Openmoko community

Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?

2008-08-21 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have a source for this info? The only need for external components that I'm aware of is the 15k pulldowns when charging while in host mode. About two years ago I was working on getting USB Host mode working out

Re: Official update feeds testing on downloads.openmoko.org

2008-08-21 Thread shawnzier
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 09:39:42AM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Kevin Zuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I've just noticed on a new testing repository on downloads.openmoko.org [1]. Are that the official update feeds for ASU or another distribution? Is the merge of the two branches

Re: Can't get the phone registered (ticket #1766)

2008-08-21 Thread Alexey Kurochkin
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 14:13 -0500, Alexey Kurochkin wrote: You guys are lucky. Mine does not receive calls at all on startup. I think I found the cause of this particular problem. I have installed openmoko-dialer2, and that creature quietly installed gsmd daemon, which conflicts with qutopia's

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Esben Stien
Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or killing the application. Not having swap is nonsense;). If you are using swap

Re: kernel module dev

2008-08-21 Thread Tomasz Czapiewski
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a question on kernel development. I want to try to get some USB webcam support working, which requires gspca plus usb-video and a few other modules, not presently being build. can someone lead me by the hand to the simplest path to

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: i'd think it would make little sense so make the system that fragile. fix the memory usage issue - don't just get more slow slow slow ram. :) As i said, i had made the experience that it improved the system greatly. Shouldn't we just test it? Perhaps, that is what

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Esben Stien wrote: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or killing the application. That would be great. But was always

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0200 Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:09:58 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Esben Stien wrote: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0200 Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: I remember there was a proposal for a more intelligent oom killer system on lkml some time ago. No idea if this is still around. (Was afaik some preemtive notification to userspace) Intuitively the answer is clear. Kill the culprit and not just

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-08-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. colors. what's up with your colors? are you on ppc? the 16bit engine assumes identical endianess to the host (for x) and doesnt do any proper changes. x86 in debian unstable chroot. 2. looks like you installed illume, but its

Re: Substitute batteries

2008-08-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 21 August 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Makes perfect sense. Is it a custom IC, something off-the-shelf, or what? That I don't know. Joerg, any reason we don't open source this schematic, since we did all of GTA02? You already did ages ago, and it's been in the

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: I remember there was a proposal for a more intelligent oom killer system on lkml some time ago. No idea if this is still around. (Was afaik some preemtive notification to userspace) Intuitively the answer is clear. Kill the

Re: [OT] Re: FSO milestone 2 on freerunner dial out problem

2008-08-21 Thread Xavier Vens
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Xavier Vens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be more precise on the SIM; it is a pack prepaid from belgium carrefour mobile that costs 15 Euro. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Xavier Vens

Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-21 Thread yves mahe
Olivier Berger wrote: Now, I have found a way to boot to OM 2008.8 from SD (actually VFAT + EXT3). But I'm too unable to use network over USB now (works fine if rebooting to 2007.2 in flash). Hi, I've just received my Freerunner yesterday. FYI, I'm able to boot to OM 2008.8 from SD

FSO milestone 2 Zhone sending digit

2008-08-21 Thread Xavier Vens
Hi All, Now the dialout works :-); does anybody knows how to send digit to an IVR i called with Zhone ? On the screen, i have the phone dialed with 2 buttons, hold and hangup but no way to send the digits. i tried with the virtual keyboard but no success. I running the Freerunner with FSO

FR as a tablet pen?

2008-08-21 Thread Davide Scaini
Hi all, I'm new in the community, I'm waiting for my Freerunner ;-)... What do you think about using the FR as a tablet pen??? It would be nice! Davide ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop

2008-08-21 Thread Christian Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 20.08.2008 um 23:30 schrieb Sebastian Ohl: Hi, On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 14:39 -0400, xaos x wrote: I'm currently finishing up a battery power python app for any of the system trays (GNOME, XFCE, etc) so you can see battery power when zhone

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:44:36 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0200 Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:53:10 +0300 Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. colors. what's up with your colors? are you on ppc? the 16bit engine assumes identical endianess to the host (for x) and doesnt do any proper

Re: FR as a tablet pen?

2008-08-21 Thread arne anka
think about using the FR as a tablet pen??? It would be nice! someone proposed using the fr like that a while ago. but besides the sw-problems (it would require kernel module that presents the fr as pointer device) it will probably kill the screen's surface in no time.

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi, On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:31 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pressing the pwr button for a few seconds does the trick mostly -- but there's no indication and you easily press too long and the device simply reboots ... I just tested here - if i press the POWER button for about 2 -

Re: FSO milestone 2 Zhone sending digit

2008-08-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 21 August 2008 17:28:06 schrieb Xavier Vens: Hi All, Now the dialout works :-); does anybody knows how to send digit to an IVR i called with Zhone ? DTMF has been added after milestone2 to zhone. This will appear in ms3 due around end of august / early september. -- :M:

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Sander van Grieken
Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or killing the application. Not having swap is nonsense;). If you are using swap

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hmm, On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither POWER nor AUX buttons work. At all. Which process is supposed to monitor thoe in FSO? I just tested again. The power button will suspend my Neo 1973 if I press it for about 2 - 3 seconds. Correction: I

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973

2008-08-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The connection between gllin and TangoGPS is not there on the fso-testing image (since we're waiting for some major frameworkd

Re: FR as a tablet pen?

2008-08-21 Thread Valerio Valerio
Hi, 2008/8/21 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] think about using the FR as a tablet pen??? It would be nice! You can do that (partially) with ReMoko [1], ReMoko emulate a Bluetooth HID keyboard and mouse, so you can draw with the mouse profile. [1] -

Re: FSO milestone 2 Zhone sending digit

2008-08-21 Thread Xavier Vens
Good news Thank you. Is it a way to test it ? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag 21 August 2008 17:28:06 schrieb Xavier Vens: Hi All, Now the dialout works :-); does anybody knows how to send digit to an IVR i called with Zhone ?

Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973 - opkg update doesn't work

2008-08-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Downloading http://my-distribution.org/remote-feed/... You might want to change that to the actual location of the feeds ... It must have been late yesterday - I didn't notie that one. :-)

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:44:36 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0200 Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux

Re: FR as a tablet pen?

2008-08-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 05:27:12PM +0100, Valerio Valerio wrote: 2008/8/21 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] think about using the FR as a tablet pen??? It would be nice! You can do that (partially) with ReMoko [1], ReMoko emulate a Bluetooth HID keyboard and mouse, so you can draw with the

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Sander van Grieken wrote: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or killing the application. Not having swap is nonsense;). If

Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

2008-08-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Kevin Fenzi wrote: I installed the unstable image, and tried to use either the unstable or testing feeds here, and I get: a bunch of: Assuming locally installed package is up to date. then a bunch of: * Packages were found, but none compatible with the architectures

Re: USB keyboard in hostmode?

2008-08-21 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 21 August 2008, Geoff Ruscoe wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have a source for this info? The only need for external components that I'm aware of is the 15k pulldowns when charging while in host mode. About two years ago

Re: FSO milestone 2 Zhone sending digit

2008-08-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 21 August 2008 18:35:27 schrieb Xavier Vens: Good news Thank you. Is it a way to test it ? Yes, it should be part of the unstable images (See SHR feed at beartech, talked about in another thread). Be warned though, unstable is less functional than ms2 as we're shuffling some

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Steven Kurylo
And come on. Software is not perfect. Sometimes we have to live with a dreamteam like (old) firefox and x11. I had times when they had both hundreds of megs virtual mem. But everything was fine because it all was just harmlessly been swaped away. I restarted them every weekend to not let it

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Thursday 21 August 2008 19:33:24 Steven Kurylo wrote: And come on. Software is not perfect. Sometimes we have to live with a dreamteam like (old) firefox and x11. I had times when they had both hundreds of megs virtual mem. But everything was fine because it all was just harmlessly been

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Clinton Ebadi
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: really - we need a userspace oom that is Smarter (it knows what a system daemon is and what a user application is and what is a necessary user desktop process), so it will always kill apps not the phone daemon or the window manager or

Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions

2008-08-21 Thread Fox Mulder
First of all i must say that i'm quite impressed with debian on the freerunner. It runs quite smooth most of the time and the software choices are realy nice. :) There is a thing what i found out about the matchbox keyboard. The standard layout is quite bad so i tried my customized from 2007.2

Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

2008-08-21 Thread Vince M. Clark
I installed FSO testing build. Will opkg upgrade keep it current? I have the following files in /etc/opkg/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# ls -al drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 . drwxr-xr-x 37 root root 0 Aug 22 07:10 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62 Jan 1 1970 all-feed.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root

Re: Migration to 2008.08

2008-08-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Dale Maggee wrote: 1. I don't think so, mainly because of bug # 1766 - can't be used as a phone. YMMV. Try using the workaround I've posted [1] using the attached libficgta01vendor.so. It seems it makes telephony working in 2008.08 too. [1]

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions

2008-08-21 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Nice looking keyboard. Excluding Home and End there are AllWhatCanNeed. (maybe on arrows with shift?) There are some button which do not work on my debian. Do they work on yours? shift+7 = ?should be / shift+0 = +should be = shift+. = : should be ; öä and umlaut-u do not affected

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions

2008-08-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would At the moment you need to edit the

Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

2008-08-21 Thread Vince M. Clark
That is exactly where I downloaded the build. my-distribution.org was in all the /etc/opkg/*.conf files by default. Is there a wiki page somewhere that explains how to configure my sources? - Original Message - From: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community

Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

2008-08-21 Thread Yorick Moko
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is exactly where I downloaded the build. my-distribution.org was in all the /etc/opkg/*.conf files by default. Is there a wiki page somewhere that explains how to configure my sources? - Original Message -

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions

2008-08-21 Thread Fox Mulder
In the console the umlaute doesn't work at all. maybe i have to change my language or font settings. When i try it in mousepad the umlaute works and are affected by capslock. shift+. = : is right. ; comes by shift+, (take look at the keyboard) :) The problem with shift+7=? and shift+0=+ does

Re: Opie-Reader qpk for the Qtopia distro

2008-08-21 Thread undrwater
Tim, I enjoyed opie-reader on the Zaurus...look forward to it on the Freerunner! I've been eagerly anticipating someone building a reader! Thanks bunches...hope it's ASU capable soon. Russell -undrwater Tim Wentford wrote: If it proves popular enough, and I can't get a build

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Esben Stien
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and luckily those smart fellas in kernel developer land.. made kernel overcommit.. a tunable parameter! and... cunningly.. on the FR (and as wel on my desktop) it's turned off! :) so... a moot point really. :) I was more thinking of

Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging

2008-08-21 Thread Yohann (YC) Coppel
Wahou ! That is way faster than before ! great ! So, I can view the maps, calculate the directions, but It does not read gps data. I am using FSO, and apparently there is no gpsd in the repositories. The svn version you are using should have the gypsy patch, but I don't see any vehicle_gypsy in

Re: Testing and Unstable feeds for the FSO distribution are now available

2008-08-21 Thread Vince M. Clark
I replaced all the URLs in my opkg/*.conf files with URLs that point to http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/... I was able to map URLs in every file except fic-gta02-feed.conf. There is no fic-gta02 directory under http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/ so I just removed that conf

Re: Opie-Reader qpk for the Qtopia distro

2008-08-21 Thread Tim Wentford
I've got Qtopia working off my SD card now so I can do some more testing. I added a little bit of gesture support so you can do page up/down by stroking up/down the screen, zoom in/out by stroking right/left, and then the four diagonal directions do back/forward/beginning/end but I can't remember

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