Re: Debian: alternating white and splash screen [was:Debian Install.sh error when run under Qtopia]
Thanks that pushed me to look at the right information. The following links give information on down clocking the SDcard. http://markmail.org/message/jlqjkb72peqe457p : this is a patch submission by Andy Green to add SD card down clocking thru kernel command line, (hope it got into the kernel) http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/LinuxBootArgs : has some pointers on setting kernel arguments under uboot. ( have not tested anything above) My problem turned out to be 'uBoot too old' issue, do not remember when I last updated it, so flashed the latest one and every thing seems to be in order. -GK On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Am Samstag, den 23.08.2008, 20:20 +0530 schrieb Ganesha Krishna: I found one reference to same problem in the archives http://markmail.org/message/45246njb35z77w7y Sadly there was no further info. here is what I saw when I did a boot from NAND boot-menu cmd 0x8 arg 0x1aa flags 0x75 error after cmd: 0xfffc (had to boot many times to see all that info, not sure about the number of 'f' s in the cmd. thought it would be a 32 bit command.) Greatly appreciate any pointers or links. I have no real answer, but others have worked around problems by changing the glamo MMC bus speed. I didn't find the concrete command right away, but it must be somewhere out there :-) Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
11-20 of Sept. in Boston, want a Freerunner
Hello, Long time lurker on the list and I have a question. I'll be in Boston, MA between the 11th and 20th of September and I'd love to pick up a Freerunner while in the states. Anyone know of a way I can order one and be able to receive it between those dates while in Boston? Thanks. -- Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left
Amazing status report, thanks and keep us posted! in fso-frameword really helps to get the phone sleep well :-) :) -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSoC final status update (Re: Whats the state of pypimd?)
Am Samstag 23 August 2008 16:35:50 schrieb digger vermont: I'm wondering about pypim, I think it was part of SOC. I've been able to find very few references to it and no code. Is it still being worked on? Code is in git.freesmartphone.org - openmoko-gsoc2008 Please wait for GSoc completely finishing, I expect some final status reports from every student then. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Storage of Contacts
On Saturday 23 August 2008, Alexander Menk wrote: Hi! were is contacts data stored in Om 2008.8 (Qtopia). I guess it's not Evolution DB format ? Alex /home/user/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017670.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
Hello Brian, Brian Wilson wrote: Jim wrote: I was kind of surprised that gpsd didn't give me a simple way to just get the current location, I had to capture 5 sentences to do that simple thing I tried to used gpsd with my GPS base station my recollection was that it was totally useless for that. I assume that it will be useless for this project too but it's a starting point. No need for gpsd for a binary logger, see below. XML would be able to do that but I agree probably too verbose, how about tokenized XML? Very interesting idea, could be the way to go, I will look at it. On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Bert Hartmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my toyings with TangoGPS, I know it can produce logs, I don't know the format at all, it may just be the raw GPS output or not. I do know it does all the pedometer functions you were asking about (maybe not min speed, but definitely max and avg.). Perhaps you should look into that project. I will, thank you. I have no interest in inventing a new binary format. There should be something out there that is open and compact. (There should be, he said. Ha) IMO, just use the raw Ublox binary format. It's rather simple to decode. I have already implemented a binary decoder for the Ublox binary format based on Ublox open documentation of the protocol. My plan is to release this code under the GPL at some point. Once I receive my free runner I will start by releasing a binary decoder. In the time being I can probably release a Windows only converter from this Ublox format to a csv format if you are interested. I've tried TangoGPS, it's a nice program. I've read about it on its web site and looked at the source code. Problem is that the GUI source code is GTK and very hard to follow IMHO. I am personally proficient in Qt4 so I am interested in participating in a project that will create a GPS navigation app in C++ using Qt4. Here is my roadmap more or less: 1) port my Ublox decoder to linux and openmoko. I plan to use CMake as the build system. 2) add some logger functionality to the program above so that some Ublox logs can be requested. 3) implement an ephemeris and almanac saving and restoring solution 4) do the same as above for some SBAS messages if possible (not sure it is) 5) implement a simple Qt4 navigation program using openmap. I hope I have something to show next month. Cheers, Abdel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Recoding sound via gstreamer
Hi! did anybody manage to record sound via gstreamer? I'm getting this message: # gst-launch alsasrc ! filesink location=/tmp/test Setting pipeline to PAUSED ... ERROR: Pipeline doesn't want to pause. ERROR: from element /pipeline0/alsasrc0: Could not open audio device for recording. Additional debug info: gstalsasrc.c(633): gst_alsasrc_open (): /pipeline0/alsasrc0: Recording open error on device 'default': Invalid argument Setting pipeline to NULL ... FREEING pipeline ... Alex smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 11-20 of Sept. in Boston, want a Freerunner
I am not sure how you could pull that one off. I'd imagine you could make special arrangements with a UPS/FedEx/DHL Store to hold it at one of their facilities here in Boston. Otherwise I live in Boston and would be willing to give you a hand. Send me an email off list if interested. John Koenig Yoni Rabkin wrote: Hello, Long time lurker on the list and I have a question. I'll be in Boston, MA between the 11th and 20th of September and I'd love to pick up a Freerunner while in the states. Anyone know of a way I can order one and be able to receive it between those dates while in Boston? Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
What's Enlightenment doing for so long?
After de Booting part with a progress report, we get the Boot's again. But I already can ssh into the Freerunner, and doing a top I see that it's enlightenment who's taking a bloody huge time loading up. Feels like about half of the booting time. I wonder what could be done to speed it up... Rui -- Kallisti! Today is Sweetmorn, the 17th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Sonntag 24 August 2008 14:34:13 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: Here is my roadmap more or less: 1) port my Ublox decoder to linux and openmoko. I plan to use CMake as the build system. 2) add some logger functionality to the program above so that some Ublox logs can be requested. 3) implement an ephemeris and almanac saving and restoring solution 4) do the same as above for some SBAS messages if possible (not sure it is) 5) implement a simple Qt4 navigation program using openmap. Sounds like a good plan. Let me note that by just using ogspd from the FSO framework, you could skip 1)-3) Ah? It seems I don't know yet about this... Could you point me to the source code please? and go right to 5) (dunno about 4). There's a number of SBAS messages that are worth saving so that the receiver can provider an SBAS solution quicker. But I am not sure it is possible to give back these messages to the ublox receiver as is possible for the GPS ephemerises and almanacs. P.S. I love LyX. ;-) Abdel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Micro SDHC card working ?
Hi, I don't know if it will work with your FreeRunner, but as you are willing to order in a german shop, here is a cheaper alternative: http://www.amazon.de/SanDisk-Digital-Capacity-microSDHC-Speicherkarte/dp/B000WH6H1M/ref=pd_ys_iyr1 I ordered it on Saturday and think it will arrive soon. If you wish i will post here after i could check if it works. Bye, Simon -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Micro-SDHC-card-working---tp730310p779692.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left
Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about incoming phone calls during suspend? Sorry for the delay, didn't actually answer my test call. Now I did another test (only 1 hour in suspend) and as expected it worked fine. Ringtone was heard and both parties could hear each other. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video on Freerunner?
Leonti wrote: Here is the page describing how to play videos on Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player So I have some questions: Did anyone tried to transcode videos on the Freerunner itself? For example: go to youtube - download video to sd card - transcode it to the needed format(how long does it take, by the way) - watch it? Is it useable? Does someone watch videos often on the freerunner? Are there any new developments for the video playback sinse that wiki page is updated? you tube video are possible on the free runner. though not instantly... on your home computer install clive and configure it to transcode flv to mpg then copy across and use mplayer and quasar from the angstrom repositories to play. (tested on 2007.4) Sorry, i don't really have a better answer... it works. but is far from perfect... -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
wrong architecture error after changing repositorities
Hi, I installed FSO milestone 2, then I removed all .conf files in /etc/opkg/ and added a selfmade one with the following content: src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-all http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/all src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-armv4t http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-fic-gta01 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/fic-gta01 src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-neo1973 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/neo1973 src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-om-gta01 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/om-gta01 src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-om-gta02 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/om-gta02 But now when I want to install something I get always the following error: * Packages were found, but none compatible with the architectures configured What does this error message mean? Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it should be usable in any gtk based panel (i.e. xfce or gnome) and its based on the frameworkd dbus infrastructure. with this plugin you can not just show but also disable or enable the hardware components by clicking on the icons. the battery state is also displayed. you can get a debianized version from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1_all.deb or the source from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1.tar.gz -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I will try it now :) Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi, xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it should be usable in any gtk based panel (i.e. xfce or gnome) and its based on the frameworkd dbus infrastructure. with this plugin you can not just show but also disable or enable the hardware components by clicking on the icons. the battery state is also displayed. you can get a debianized version from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1_all.deb or the source from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1.tar.gz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsX25SIAU/I6SkT0RAtYSAJsG7B2p8q4X/o1k0cnKhbS0WOfFoACgojEc FapYErauZSAWlsUPQ/t6QWY= =Y73A -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 24.08.2008, 17:21 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Ohl: xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it should be usable in any gtk based panel (i.e. xfce or gnome) and its based on the frameworkd dbus infrastructure. with this plugin you can not just show but also disable or enable the hardware components by clicking on the icons. the battery state is also displayed. you can get a debianized version from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1_all.deb or the source from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1.tar.gz Screenshots! And is this a package suitable for inclusion in the Debian archive? Do you want to maintain it yourself, or rather have someone else do it? Is there a VCS repository somewhere, or at least the debian source package? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
It looks really nice. :) But i would suggest to change the modifier action from one mouse click to double click. On a touchscreen it is hard to flew over the icons to show the quicktip and not activate/deactivate the function. This would also prevent unintentional acivation or deactivation. Also it would be really nice if the battery popup (after klicking it) shows the actual state (charging/discharging and actual current) which is readable from sysfs. At the moment it only shows the actual battery state in percent when i'm right. Keep up the good work. That panel was one of the things i was most missing in debian till now. :) Ciao, Rainer Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi, xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it should be usable in any gtk based panel (i.e. xfce or gnome) and its based on the frameworkd dbus infrastructure. with this plugin you can not just show but also disable or enable the hardware components by clicking on the icons. the battery state is also displayed. you can get a debianized version from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1_all.deb or the source from http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.1-1.tar.gz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Essay about Openmoko
Hi Christian, you can find my Bachelor Thesis (which I worte last winter, so it's a little out of date) at http://www.mynethome.de/2008/03/13/bachelor-of-computer-science/ Another nice article about Openmoko written by Mickey Lauer can be found in this year's Opensource yearbook : http://www.opensourcejahrbuch.de/ Another good thing might be the Openmoko Episode of Chaosradio Express at http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre042.html or, more recent, an Interveiw with Mickey Lauer at FrOsCon this weekend: http://cms.radiotux.de/index6.php http://radiotux.de/interviews/2008-08-23.RadioTux.Michael.Lauer.openmoko.mp3 All resources are in germany, as i assumed by your emailadress that you're from germany, too. Hope that helps you a little bit :) cheers Markus Am Montag, 18. August 2008 23:18:39 schrieb Christian Weßel: Hello, I want to prepare an essay about Mobile Linux with Openmoko, Neo1973 and FR for our LUG. I want to take focus about history, philosophy and the state of the developing (current technic, future). For the history and the philosophy of OM I need some nice links where I can grap some informations. Who has some? Let me participate. Thanx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: raster image + zecke testing branch with gpsdrive
Xavier Vens schrieb: Hi Rui, the gpsd was installed, when i try to start gpsd: /etc/init.d/gpsd start Starting gpsd: No /dev/ttyS3 GPS device, aborting gpsd startup. Check /etc/default/gpsd try this one. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gpsd#GPS_on_GTA02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
Am Sonntag 24 August 2008 16:15:46 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Sonntag 24 August 2008 14:34:13 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: Here is my roadmap more or less: 1) port my Ublox decoder to linux and openmoko. I plan to use CMake as the build system. 2) add some logger functionality to the program above so that some Ublox logs can be requested. 3) implement an ephemeris and almanac saving and restoring solution 4) do the same as above for some SBAS messages if possible (not sure it is) 5) implement a simple Qt4 navigation program using openmap. Sounds like a good plan. Let me note that by just using ogspd from the FSO framework, you could skip 1)-3) Ah? It seems I don't know yet about this... Could you point me to the source code please? git.freesmartphone.org and go right to 5) (dunno about 4). There's a number of SBAS messages that are worth saving so that the receiver can provider an SBAS solution quicker. But I am not sure it is possible to give back these messages to the ublox receiver as is possible for the GPS ephemerises and almanacs. Daniel? -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wrong architecture error after changing repositorities
Michael Tansella wrote: Hi, I installed FSO milestone 2, then I removed all .conf files in /etc/opkg/ and added a selfmade one with the following content: src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-all http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/all src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-armv4t http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-fic-gta01 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/fic-gta01 src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-neo1973 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/neo1973 src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-om-gta01 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/om-gta01 src/gz bearstech-fso-testing-om-gta02 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/om-gta02 But now when I want to install something I get always the following error: * Packages were found, but none compatible with the architectures configured What does this error message mean? Greets Michael you shouldn't delete all the conf files from /etc/opkg, because there's one file there which would appear to tell opkg about your system architecture, deleting it causes the error you describe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/opkg/arch.conf arch all 1 arch any 6 arch noarch 11 arch arm 16 arch armv4t 21 arch fic-gta02 26 arch neo1973 31 arch om-gta02 36 cheers, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video on Freerunner?
Quoting Tim Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you tube video are possible on the free runner. though not instantly... See my earlier mail on Youtube offering mp4 versions of their videos. I still don't know if anyone's verified how balrog-kun's referenced glamo-accelerated mplayer plays them (or if the glamo output has received further finetuning). But anyway, there certainly is potential to play youtube stuff more or less realtime. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-June/020056.html -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video on Freerunner?
See my earlier mail on Youtube offering mp4 versions of their videos. more interesting would be what parameters are used to encode them, fps, resolution, ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
xaos x and I finished our efforts to create a panel plugin to show you the power states of the FR hardware components without using zhone. it uhm, how does one use it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FO - how do I get the hardware revision?
Hi, On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 4:04 PM, digger vermont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try mickeyterm. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mickeyterm Nice. But how do I exit from mickeyterm? Do I really have to use Ctrl-D? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973
Hello, On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means you haven't got the gpschannel_add_udpchannel_and_filechannel.patch from Trac 49 applied. You were right. Somehow I botched it while appling the patch manually. I fixed it, and now the GPS works again (both in zhone and in tangoGPS). Yay! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Here it works withput problems. But it isn't displayed at the bottom where the other panel aplications show up. It is located in the upper right at the panel which shows all open applications. Didn't you get any error messages? Does the process run at all in the background? arne anka wrote: Just start openmoko-panel-plugin in the console and the status panel appears in xfce. :) that's exactly my problem -- i do but the panel doesnt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 19:06 +0200, arne anka wrote: uhm, how does one use it? It should appear somewhere in your windowmanagers application menu(in xfce in submenu other) or you can start it on a console via /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
You must to add a tray icon area to panel! i had -- the problem was simply that i had a task list applet (or whatever the proper name is) and the panel does not obviously not resize entries to show everything. after removal of the applet the panel is shown. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
the first prealpha of the site is aviable!!! Please send me a lot of feedbacks (consider that _it isn't finished_ and the main planned features are listed in the TODO section of the site) :D at the moment the address is http://www.getipk.tk but as soon as possible I'll register getipk.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.08 zecke gstreamer errors
For what its worth, I figured out that the problem was related to how the music data was stored. The music was being kept on an ext3-formated second partition of the SD card. Despite having the correct references in fstab and Qtopia's Storage.conf, the data was not being read correctly. I could, however, play the music through gstreamer directly and using madplay. When I changed to a single partition, fat-formatted data store everything magically worked. I have not done any additional testing to see whether it was the partitioning or formatting, but I could if anyone is interested. On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Using the 2008.08 testing repository from zecke, both the openmoko and qtopia media players throw gstreamer errors on my device when trying to play audio. Possibly related, the qtopia player can not read mp3 tag information (all tracks are unknown). I have not had time to look into the cause for this yet. Has anyone else experienced this and possibly fixed it? Could it be a package or configuration related issue? You know what's weird? Before applying the updates from Zecke's testing branch today, neither of the openmoko or qtopia mediaplayers were working for me. OM was either throwing up gstreamer errors or did not seem to do anything, and the qtopia one didn't play anything and didn't even quit. After the updates and installing mplayer, both are working. The QMP takes a while after starting and some cyclic pressing of - || - buttons for an mp3 file to play. You could try to reinstall the gstreamer plugins. I still wonder what has happened to openmoko-mediaplayer2's volume button. And why the FR doesn't have the most basic buttons: call pickup, call reject, and volume control. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
Thomas Bertani schrieb: the first prealpha of the site is aviable!!! Please send me a lot of feedbacks (consider that _it isn't finished_ and the main planned features are listed in the TODO section of the site) :D http://getipk.net mhm the app registration is working just fine :) looks somewhat good after xou are used to the bright purple... but there definately has to be a edit function for the apps. I think best would be a wiki like thing with history. So that not the app develloper has to do all the work. the other thing is, with firefox 3 there are some mouseover bugs. so every text gets underlined on mouseover thats quite unusual and very distracting. enaut ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 08:03:18PM +0200, Thomas Bertani wrote: the first prealpha of the site is aviable!!! Please send me a lot of feedbacks (consider that _it isn't finished_ and the main planned features are listed in the TODO section of the site) :D at the moment the address is http://www.getipk.tk but as soon as possible I'll register getipk.net I'm terribly sorry, I don't mean this to discourage you but I find this site highly disturbing. It reeks of those Windows software sites where one got shady software because on Windows it is so hard to find software. This also has the very strong problem of incentivating worse practice actions from users by creating an habit of installing from shady places. Malicious software is also the natural child of this kind of mentality. Can't you merely make it an indexer to the official package trees? Please! Thanks, Rui -- You are what you see. Today is Sweetmorn, the 17th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left
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ehi it is only the preprepreprealpha :D It is only a start, the css is the first I found out, there is a lot to work and the todo list is long 2008/8/24 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 08:03:18PM +0200, Thomas Bertani wrote: the first prealpha of the site is aviable!!! Please send me a lot of feedbacks (consider that _it isn't finished_ and the main planned features are listed in the TODO section of the site) :D at the moment the address is http://www.getipk.tk but as soon as possible I'll register getipk.net I'm terribly sorry, I don't mean this to discourage you but I find this site highly disturbing. It reeks of those Windows software sites where one got shady software because on Windows it is so hard to find software. This also has the very strong problem of incentivating worse practice actions from users by creating an habit of installing from shady places. Malicious software is also the natural child of this kind of mentality. Can't you merely make it an indexer to the official package trees? Please! Thanks, Rui -- You are what you see. Today is Sweetmorn, the 17th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 07:47:17PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Can't you merely make it an indexer to the official package trees? Merely isn't diminishing, sorry for the bad word. A nice web index to opkg repositories would be most wellcome! Rui -- Hail Eris! Today is Sweetmorn, the 17th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I want in a second moment create a repository (maybe repo.getipk.net) so in the apps review links point to the repo url. ok? 2008/8/24 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 07:47:17PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Can't you merely make it an indexer to the official package trees? Merely isn't diminishing, sorry for the bad word. A nice web index to opkg repositories would be most wellcome! Rui -- Hail Eris! Today is Sweetmorn, the 17th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New openmoko packages database
I'll release a new more usefull release of this site on the 6 of september. It will be better BUT I haven't time to the css and at the moment I have no time to say istruction to make the css. The php code is more important. Now what I'm asking you is to wait XD And if you could help please make a css, it will be usefull with more css, then users could choose the best one. I'll say istructions about the css on the 6 semptember, in the meanwhile please be patient... Thanks and sorry for my bad english ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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this is another question better to me... this is an openmoko opkg system issue XD 2008/8/24 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not talking about the design, but the purpose, maybe you could shift its design into a more benefic one? Encoraging users, specially the less savvy ones, to install software like that is a danger and the reason why Apple's decision is both bad and right at the same time. The main problem with Apple's decision to only run cryptographically signed software, is that you don't own the keys, Apple does. So they control what you can install. I urge that opkg be modified in order to install packages only if they're signed, and that it takes excrutiantingly painful paths in order to install something without a signature (if you want an example, Firefox's excellent new Bad Certificate warning, many hate it because they find it a hinderance to read and learn, but they made the right decision). Rui -- Wibble. Today is Sweetmorn, the 17th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Sounds like a good plan. Let me note that by just using ogspd from the FSO framework, you could skip 1)-3) and go right to 5) (dunno about 4). I just ported xgps to Qtopia, this was of course using the client for gpsd. Qtopia does not currently use frameworkd, do you know if there are plans for qtopis to use it? (I'm not switching to FSO yet) If not can I install ogpsd standalone? I'd be happy to port my qtgps test app to use that instead of gpds, although the only thing I like about gpsd is the ability to connect to it from my destopk so I can develop the UI there, but I guess I can do an tcp daemon that talks to dbus, unless there is already one. The code and executable for the current qtgps which seems to gun on Qtopia ok with gpsd is here, if it helps anyone. http://blog.wolfman.com/files/qtgps.tar.gz -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: IMO, just use the raw Ublox binary format. It's rather simple to decode. I have already implemented a binary decoder for the Ublox binary format based on Ublox open documentation of the protocol. My plan is to release this code under the GPL at some point. I agree if there is already a compact binary format then we should use that. Is there currently a way to capture that raw format? Here is my roadmap more or less: 1) port my Ublox decoder to linux and openmoko. I plan to use CMake as the build system. 2) add some logger functionality to the program above so that some Ublox logs can be requested. 3) implement an ephemeris and almanac saving and restoring solution 4) do the same as above for some SBAS messages if possible (not sure it is) 5) implement a simple Qt4 navigation program using openmap. Sounds good, I made a start with a Qtopia port of xgps, the fact it gets its data from gpsd at the moment is irrelvant as it could just as easily get the raw data and parse it. Code is here... (Its needs a bit of work to replace the sprintfs xpgs used to the equivalent Qt, but I simply copied/pasted that code from xgps). http://blog.wolfman.com/files/qtgps.tar.gz -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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opkg feed settings with fso-testing at shr.bearstech.com
Hi. I've been pulling the latest image for a couple of days now, running a script after pushing the image with dfu-util to get my system to where I think it's usable (and I can demo a few things for people) However, I'd like to know what to put in /etc/opkg/ to get the feeds to work properly with http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/ instead of having to pull new images every day. Before I put my head into this black hole of opkg config, trying to figure it out myself, I'm hoping someone would have the time to show what's needed. Thanks in advance, / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Jim Morris wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: IMO, just use the raw Ublox binary format. It's rather simple to decode. I have already implemented a binary decoder for the Ublox binary format based on Ublox open documentation of the protocol. My plan is to release this code under the GPL at some point. I agree if there is already a compact binary format then we should use that. Is there currently a way to capture that raw format? I don't know which device represents the ublox but, provided that it is properly configured, a simple 'cat /dev/ublox ~/log.ubx' Here is my roadmap more or less: 1) port my Ublox decoder to linux and openmoko. I plan to use CMake as the build system. 2) add some logger functionality to the program above so that some Ublox logs can be requested. 3) implement an ephemeris and almanac saving and restoring solution 4) do the same as above for some SBAS messages if possible (not sure it is) 5) implement a simple Qt4 navigation program using openmap. Sounds good, I made a start with a Qtopia port of xgps, the fact it gets its data from gpsd at the moment is irrelvant as it could just as easily get the raw data and parse it. For this we could just send the binary message in a socket to some configurable IP address. I also suggest that you add the ability to parse a file. This will offer you replay functionality. Code is here... (Its needs a bit of work to replace the sprintfs xpgs used to the equivalent Qt, but I simply copied/pasted that code from xgps). http://blog.wolfman.com/files/qtgps.tar.gz I'll try to have a look next week. You should probably put this in some SCM. git seems to be in widespread use around here. What about github? Abdel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the
brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i
didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would
At the moment you need to edit the source:
1) apt-get source fso-frameworkd
2) edit fso-frameworkd*/framework/subsystems/odeviced/idlenotifier.py around
line 58
3) fakeroot apt-get --build source fso-frameworkd
4) dpkg -i fso-frameworkd*deb
I downloaded, edited and compiled it on my neo. I changed the values to
else:
self.timeouts = { \
IDLE: 1,
IDLE_DIM: 2,
IDLE_PRELOCK: 3,
LOCK: 4,
SUSPEND: 20, \
}
But i don't really know if these numbers are minutes or something else.
But after installing the new compiled package the result is not exactly
what i hoped for. Within xfce and no thone running the behaviour is the
same as before. Ahen i start zhone the backlight dims after ~25s and
gets complete dark and locks after ~15s more.
I can't figure out what the numbers i changed really do and IF they
really did something or not. :/
But i was hoping to change the behaviour of xfce even when zhone is not
running, what is the condition most of the time at the moment. ;)
ne nice to set the maximum brightness and not always maximum (63).
1) apt-get source zhone
2) edit zhone*/src/zhone around line 1924
3) fakeroot apt-get --build source zhone
4) dpkg -i zhone*deb
This didn't work at all. When i try to compile it with apt-get --build
source zhone i get an error message that some archives couldn't be
downloaded. I only got zhone_0-git20080809.orig.tar.gz and it also wants
the dsc and diff file.
But i think this affects also only the brightness when zhone is running.
Is there a way to change this setting for xfce?
Then i wanted to use openoffice, what would make me really happy because
i only use OO on my desktop as well. But after i inetalled it i can't
start it. When i try to start any OO app i got the following error message
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 365: 2088 Illegal instruction
$sd_prog/$sd_binary $@
where the second number increases with every try. soffice seems to be
a start script, but i can't find the problem why it doesn't work. :(
You probably should try openoffice under qemu. If you can reproduce it
there you should file a bug to bugs.debian.org.
Then i wanted to ask if there exists a recent navit version for debian.
You can create a package easily:
1) wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/navit/navit-0.0.4.tar.gz
2) tar zxf navit-0.0.4.tar.gz
3) cd navit-0.0.4
4) dh_make -s -f ../navit-0.0.4.tar.gz
5) edit debian/rules and change line that calls ./configure to read only
./configure $(CROSS) --prefix=/usr
6) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
7) sudo dpkg -i ../navit*deb
This works after reinstalling quite some dev packages. I only couldn't
apply the fast-map-dragging patch with the svn version 1314. It seems
some files have changed and the patch didn't apply successfull. But the
programm runs and that is quite some success. :)
I hope that the fast map dragging patch will be applied to the svn
repository soon, so everybody doesn't have to do the patching on their
own when compiling for themselfs. ;)
This quick'n'dirty packaking took only a few minutes but the package seems to
work:
http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/debian-navit1.png
To create armel package you probably want to
qemubuilder --build navit_0.0.4-1.dsc
since building navit on your freerunner might take a while.
Thats's right. The building of navit on my neo takes quite some time.
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Re: opkg feed settings with fso-testing at shr.bearstech.com
Hello, On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I put my head into this black hole of opkg config, trying to figure it out myself, I'm hoping someone would have the time to show what's needed. Well, this has been answered before on this list, so I guess you could have googled for it. But anyway, here is what I use for my Neo 1973 (NOTE WELL: 1973, not FR. Adapt as necessary!): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/opkg/all-feed.conf src/gz fso-all http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/all [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/opkg/armv4t-feed.conf src/gz fso-armv4t http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/opkg/neo1973-feed.conf src/gz fso-neo1973 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-teting/ipk/neo1973 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/opkg/om-gta01-feed.conf src/gz fso-om-gta01 http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/om-gta01 HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FO - how do I get the hardware revision?
Am Sonntag 24 August 2008 19:09:21 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen: Hi, On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 4:04 PM, digger vermont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try mickeyterm. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mickeyterm Nice. But how do I exit from mickeyterm? Do I really have to use Ctrl-D? Yes. Is that unconfortable? I did not figure out what hardware revision you wanted to get (/proc/info?), but if it's the GSM one, the easiest way to do that is by calling mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetInfo (with the frameworkd running) -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel module request: MASQuerade on FR
mån 2008-08-11 klockan 00:54 +0200 skrev Holger Freyther: On Sunday 10 August 2008 11:50:57 Fredrik Wendt wrote: iptables said it didn't recognize match/rule/target but SNAT worked with the same arguments. Can't get my FreeRunner to boot now (completely dead) so I can't give you the exact error message. I will as soon as my FreeRunner comes back to life again. :/ The command I used would've been 'iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.200 -j MASQUERADE ' 'iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.200 -j SNAT --to-source 83.84.85.68' however did work. I'm sitting in a ICE to berlin and use GPRS through the neo to send this mail. iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE works fine after installing iptables and allowing ip_forwarding. z. Hi. No, I can't get this to work out of the box (fso-testing image from shr.bear...): # iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE iptables: No chain/target/match by that name # lsmod Module Size Used by iptable_nat 5860 0 nf_nat 16118 1 iptable_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 14344 2 iptable_nat nf_conntrack 58312 3 iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4 ip_tables 10344 1 iptable_nat x_tables 11812 2 iptable_nat,ip_tables # ls /lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter ip_tables.ko iptable_filter.ko iptable_nat.ko nf_conntrack_ipv4.ko nf_nat.ko # ls /lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/net/netfilter nf_conntrack.ko x_tables.ko # What am I missing? / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)
ons 2008-08-20 klockan 11:09 +1000 skrev Carsten Haitzler: aaah excellent. my hardware keyboard detection works... reported with bluetooth and usb... excellent! happiness is me. :) When is it supposed to kick in? I just can't get it to work ... Under FSO M2 I got /dev/input/event5 populated (after manually switching to USB host mode), and it works in console but ran into http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 regarding X. Using openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk--20080824-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 uImage-2.6.24+git36 +a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2-om-gta02.bin from buildhost/daily/freerunner/ I get zip out of the same keyboard that worked with FSO M2. I tried connecting the USB keyboard after my FreeRunner was connected to my laptop (first: FR connected to laptop, unplug, plug keyboard to FR) and also have the USB keyboard connected on boot (first: FR is off, connect keyboard, power on FR). Not having pand in that devel-image really made things more difficult to test. I guess I could try getting FR to use wifi and ssh from my computer to see what's going on, but using bluetooth is just easier to set up. / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
Am Sonntag 24 August 2008 22:34:16 schrieb Jim Morris: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Sounds like a good plan. Let me note that by just using ogspd from the FSO framework, you could skip 1)-3) and go right to 5) (dunno about 4). I just ported xgps to Qtopia, this was of course using the client for gpsd. Qtopia does not currently use frameworkd, do you know if there are plans for qtopis to use it? For pure Qtopia (i.e. not 2008.8) unlikely. Trolltech is satisfied with their own integrated backend, I don't see any motivation for them to switch to anything else. (I'm not switching to FSO yet) If not can I install ogpsd standalone? Most portions of the frameworkd work fine in parallel with Qtopia. Just install frameworkd and edit its init script to launch it with -s ogspd,odeviced,ousaged. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FO - how do I get the hardware revision?
Hello,
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes. Is that unconfortable?
Well, it is more that not being able to exit an app with Ctrl-C is
unusual, at least for me. Don't worry about it, I'll just update
the wiki.
I did not figure out what hardware revision you wanted to get (/proc/info?),
It started with me discovering this page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Finding_hardware_revision
and discovering that libgsmd-tool didn't exist in fso. :)
but if it's the GSM one, the easiest way to do that is by calling
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetInfo
I didn't know about this one. This is the same as the one you get with
at+cgmr, right?
It certainly looks like it, even if the output is a bit, er...
machine-orieted...:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd
/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetInfo
/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: GetInfo -
dbus.Dictionary({dbus.String(u'imei'): dbus.String(u'354651011308881',
variant_level=1), dbus.String(u'model'): dbus.String(u'Neo1973 GTA01
Embedded GSM Modem', variant_level=1), dbus.String(u'revision'):
dbus.String(u'HW: GTA01Bv4, GSM:
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko1',
variant_level=1), dbus.String(u'manufacturer'):
dbus.String(u'FIC/OpenMoko', variant_level=1)},
signature=dbus.Signature('sv'))
Thanks!
It is worth noting that ther is a space between ...GSM/Device and
org.freesm...
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Re: FO - how do I get the hardware revision?
Am Montag 25 August 2008 01:07:43 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen:
but if it's the GSM one, the easiest way to do that is by calling
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetInfo
I didn't know about this one. This is the same as the one you get with
at+cgmr, right?
Correct.
It certainly looks like it, even if the output is a bit, er...
machine-orieted...:
Hehe, point taken. If you have the latest git version, it looks like that:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/local/pkg/fso/python-helpers/mickeydbus# ./mdbus -s
org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetInfo
{
'imei':'354651011602234'
'model':'Neo1973 Embedded GSM Modem'
'revision':'HW: GTA, GSM:
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko9-beta1'
'manufacturer':'FIC/OpenMoko'
}
Better? ;)
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Backup rootfs and turn it into flasheable image
Hi there I need some help hero because I have done some test but nothing really works. I want to be able to create a flaseable rootfs image from the actual content of te neo, due dfu-util is no usable for this (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util#--upload) I can guess the way would be an scp copy to pc, and create a jffs2 image from the result of the scp copy. but, two cuestion arise and I'm still not found a solution how to avoid special dirs (dev, sys, proc...) or only not to copy the content of directories like media or mnt? how to create a jffs2 image from the content of a directory? I will be happy to put all this on a script a have a one-command backup image, and due the size of the result (a max 256 Mb) will be a good project to have repository of users image files to show what they have done and some pimp configurations/applications. I am working on a image like an idea I have read on some post here to have an demo-image that in spite of will be in very alpha stage can show in a demo a bit of the capabilities of the neo, (not debian allowed I'm talking about only using the nand :), I'm waiting for my 2Gb Sandisk to arrive and install Debian at fulltrottel :) ), now I'm using the Raster-Zecke tandem and I have installed succesfully tangogps (gps works maps not showed), numptyphisics,orrery,om-console and rotate(simplier than gestures only rotates the screen) I will like to make pu ic the result of the backup to save time to anyone that needs a quick demo to show , any sugestion of other wow software will be really apreciaeted. Regards and hugs David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Gutenflash
Hello, For info, a new ipk for Gutenflash (Rapid text reader) is available: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gutenflash Gilles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel module request: MASQuerade on FR
Am Sonntag 24 August 2008 21:10:45 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: mån 2008-08-11 klockan 00:54 +0200 skrev Holger Freyther: On Sunday 10 August 2008 11:50:57 Fredrik Wendt wrote: iptables said it didn't recognize match/rule/target but SNAT worked with the same arguments. Can't get my FreeRunner to boot now (completely dead) so I can't give you the exact error message. I will as soon as my FreeRunner comes back to life again. :/ The command I used would've been 'iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.200 -j MASQUERADE ' 'iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.200 -j SNAT --to-source 83.84.85.68' however did work. I'm sitting in a ICE to berlin and use GPRS through the neo to send this mail. iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE works fine after installing iptables and allowing ip_forwarding. z. Hi. No, I can't get this to work out of the box (fso-testing image from shr.bear...): # iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE iptables: No chain/target/match by that name # lsmod Module Size Used by iptable_nat 5860 0 nf_nat 16118 1 iptable_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 14344 2 iptable_nat nf_conntrack 58312 3 iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4 ip_tables 10344 1 iptable_nat x_tables 11812 2 iptable_nat,ip_tables # ls /lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter ip_tables.ko iptable_filter.ko iptable_nat.ko nf_conntrack_ipv4.ko nf_nat.ko # ls /lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/net/netfilter nf_conntrack.ko x_tables.ko # What am I missing? Please install kernel-module-ipt-masquerade. Next version of FSO will include this by default. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SSD Latency and Throughput
On Aug 25, Esben Stien wrote: Anyone done any measurement on latency and throughput on the internal 256 Mio flash versus any general SD cards? only read throughput so far: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td669004 Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: BT keyboards with FR?
I use the iGo/Stowaway bluetooth keyboard and it works great! There is a program written by scaredycat (btkb) that makes a nice gui for connecting to bluetooth keyboards. Very easy to connect to and use! See my post at www.bufferunderflow.com?entry=6 for more info, and screenshots/videos. -Dan Staley On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 16:54 -0400, Ben Holt wrote: I am considering buying a portable BT keyboard to go with my FreeRunner and would appreciate hearing from anyone who is already using a BT keyboard and can comment on how well it is working and what keyboard you have. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated :-). Many thanks, - Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
On Thursday 21 August 2008 02:06:59 pm Fox Mulder wrote: First of all i must say that i'm quite impressed with debian on the freerunner. It runs quite smooth most of the time and the software choices are realy nice. :) There is a thing what i found out about the matchbox keyboard. The standard layout is quite bad so i tried my customized from 2007.2 which doesn't work at all (i already read about this problem). After a long try and error session i found out why it doesn't work. The matchbox keyboard which comes with debian seems not to get along with the action=modifier:layout tag. After i found out i removed all alternative layouts and it worked with my nice german layout with f-keys and everithing which is on the keyboard. :) If someone is interested in the german layout with f-keys i attached. Now to the questions i couldn't solve myself until now and i hope somebody has a few hints for me. First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would ne nice to set the maximum brightness and not always maximum (63). /etc/frameworkd.conf [odeviced.idlenotifier] # add inut nodes to ignore for idle activity ignoreinput = 2,3,4 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 idle_dim = 30 idle_prelock = 10 lock = 1 suspend = 0 That help? Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtGps for Trolltechs Qtopia
Jim Morris wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Attached is the source and binary, if you have Qtopia, just copy the binary qtgps to your FR, and run it from the file manager or terminal. (I'll figure out how to package it soon). Oh you also need to install gpsd (opkg install gpsd). If you have problems let me know, I'll put up a blog entry on how to compile this with Trolltechs toolchain. Launching it from the filemanager I get an error saying Can't open gpsd, while gpsd is installed, configured and running correctly in my phone. :o Hmm, can you do a gpspipe -r from the command line and see what happens? You may need to install gpsd_utils. Sorry for late answer, btw after a first reboot of the device, qtGps started. Thanks a lot! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Backup rootfs and turn it into flasheable image
On Sunday 24 August 2008 06:43:21 pm David Samblas wrote: Hi there I need some help hero because I have done some test but nothing really works. I want to be able to create a flaseable rootfs image from the actual content of te neo, due dfu-util is no usable for this (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util#--upload) I can guess the way would be an scp copy to pc, and create a jffs2 image from the result of the scp copy. but, two cuestion arise and I'm still not found a solution how to avoid special dirs (dev, sys, proc...) or only not to copy the content of directories like media or mnt? how to create a jffs2 image from the content of a directory? Read the Create rootfs and kernel images section of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner/MovingToFlash I will be happy to put all this on a script a have a one-command backup image, and due the size of the result (a max 256 Mb) will be a good project to have repository of users image files to show what they have done and some pimp configurations/applications. I am working on a image like an idea I have read on some post here to have an demo-image that in spite of will be in very alpha stage can show in a demo a bit of the capabilities of the neo, (not debian allowed I'm talking about only using the nand :), Heh. Read _all_ of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner/MovingToFlash ... Debian fits on NAND. I'm waiting for my 2Gb Sandisk to arrive and install Debian at fulltrottel :) ), now I'm using the Raster-Zecke tandem and I have installed succesfully tangogps (gps works maps not showed), numptyphisics,orrery,om-console and rotate(simplier than gestures only rotates the screen) I will like to make pu ic the result of the backup to save time to anyone that needs a quick demo to show , any sugestion of other wow software will be really apreciaeted. HTH, Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian -- better screen locking
All, When the screen goes blank, and you tap it, the tap is not swallowed... it is seen by the application you were running, and that app may do something you didn't intend. Here's how I got around that for now: Installed wmctrl with apt-get. Modified zhone to rise to the top and kill the keyboard when it locks. This will make zhone get the tap that wakes up the FR and show it's lock screen. (Hit the AUX to get your keyboard, and alt-tab as normal) --- /usr/bin/zhone.orig 2008-08-24 12:03:33.0 + +++ /usr/bin/zhone 2008-08-24 23:47:34.0 + @@ -1417,6 +1417,10 @@ for id in range( 1, 5 ): self.signal_emit( deactivate_%i % id, ) self.signal_emit( visible, ) + # and close the keyboard if it's running + os.system(kill -s KILL `pidof /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard`) + # Bring us to the top of the stack + os.system(wmctrl -a zhone) def deactivate( self ): self.signal_emit( invisible, ) Then, modified the idle timeouts (the timeout for lock in particular): --- /etc/frameworkd.conf.orig 2008-08-23 18:59:39.0 + +++ /etc/frameworkd.conf2008-08-24 12:29:10.0 + @@ -17,9 +17,9 @@ # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 -idle_dim = 20 -idle_prelock = 12 -lock = 2 +idle_dim = 30 +idle_prelock = 10 +lock = 1 suspend = 0 [odeviced.input] Since zhone is now killing the keyboard, the matchbox-keyboard-toggle utility needs to be more robust and detect if the keyboard is running or not, so I patched it like this: --- /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle.orig 2008-08-24 12:15:20.0 + +++ /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle 2008-08-24 14:36:22.0 + @@ -8,17 +8,9 @@ import os -keyboard_shown=False - def signal_handler(name, action, seconds): -global keyboard_shown - if name == AUX and action == pressed: -if keyboard_shown: -os.system(kill -s KILL `pidof /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard`) -else: -os.system(matchbox-keyboard ) -keyboard_shown = not keyboard_shown + os.system(pidof /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard /dev/null || (matchbox-keyboard ) kill -s KILL `pidof /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard`) bus = dbus.SystemBus() Feedback welcome and appreciated. Also, if there's an upstream that wants these, let me know where to send them. Eli -- --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO testing on Neo 1973
Rod wrote: This means you haven't got the gpschannel_add_udpchannel_and_filechannel.patch from Trac 49 applied. Any idea when the patches that fix GPS will be available in the testing images? Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:48:24 +0200 Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: ons 2008-08-20 klockan 11:09 +1000 skrev Carsten Haitzler: aaah excellent. my hardware keyboard detection works... reported with bluetooth and usb... excellent! happiness is me. :) When is it supposed to kick in? I just can't get it to work ... Under FSO M2 I got /dev/input/event5 populated (after manually switching to USB host mode), and it works in console but ran into http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1796 regarding X. oh i just worried about detecting a real physical keyboard is there. didn't worry about it actually delivering events in x... :) Using openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk--20080824-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 uImage-2.6.24+git36 +a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2-om-gta02.bin from buildhost/daily/freerunner/ I get zip out of the same keyboard that worked with FSO M2. I tried connecting the USB keyboard after my FreeRunner was connected to my laptop (first: FR connected to laptop, unplug, plug keyboard to FR) and also have the USB keyboard connected on boot (first: FR is off, connect keyboard, power on FR). Not having pand in that devel-image really made things more difficult to test. I guess I could try getting FR to use wifi and ssh from my computer to see what's going on, but using bluetooth is just easier to set up. / Fredrik -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU - out of memory?
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:13:19 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Pardon. I don't care for the warm and fuzzy feeling you get by having malloc fail on you. the problem is.. it doesn't say it failed. it says it succeeded. it returns a pointer. program now moves on and should be able to safely assume that the memory it asked for is it's to use. overcommit makes success from malloc a gamble. it may or may not provide you with usable memory. this makes any kind of attempt to do error checking pretty useless. as success can also be an error that is not detectable (until it's too late and you've segv'd). It does not give you a bit more system stability! The one app receiving malloc errors is just not app of many. They all have a problem then. Imagine, the browser catches a failed malloc, because some other stupid app has eaten almost all ram. What is the benefit of telling the browser about low mem? It could only safe itself from crashing. Well done. and that is what it SHOULD do. programs SHOULD check the return of their malloc ()'s and unwind safely and remain in a safe non-crashing state. they may inform the user of such an issue or may chose some other method to deal with it, but it is the job of every app to deal with it as gracefully as possible. And malloc btw. never gives you bad memory. You just have to check, even with overcommit. with overcommit it CAN give you bad memory. without it can't (or shouldn't - if it did - it'd be a bug). NULL = no memory could be given to you of the size you asked for. deal with it, anything else is giving you the memory you asked for. with overcommit it SAYS it gives you that memory - but once you try and access it (read or write) at ANY time, you may or may not segv. because the kernel may have overcommitted and decided to throw out that memory because it thinks it is not used (for whatever reason), but now you want to use it. let me give an example: my app starts - i alloc 64kb for a quick lookup-table for a dictionary. (this is a real-life thing i actually do btw.) this lets me find words in a dictionary file when you type to match quickly (as opposed to do a full linear search of the file). this lets me jump to a subsection (block) of the file quickly based on the first few letters of a word then do a limited linear search. this is low on memory usage as its a limited lookup table. this gets set up on app start. now. lets say you don't type anything for a while - hours or days. in the meantime you run apps (dialler, address lookup etc.) and just passively browse the web (no entering fields - just using bookmarks). lots of memory is allocated and freed, but the pages of ram for the keyboard dictionary are untouched. it hasn't needed them. now you use your browser and it teats up gobs of ram. well what happens now you need to type. you bring up the keyboard and type in your name in an entry field. as it does this it may need to lookup a dictionary. the kernel has since overcommitted and thrown away some pages in the 64kb lookup table for the dictionary. it decided that since they werre idle - they may aswell be ditched as it REALLY needed that ram for that background jpeg in the web page! this was new, urgent and active. well - now as you type the keyboard code tries to do a lookup.. and finds the pages of its dictionary gone! kernel took them away. they were successfully allocated and filled, but now have been nuked. result? keyboard segv's. no bug in kbd. it did everything right. it gets punished for the memory hogging of another app. THAT is what overcommit does. It's just so that you have to be aware that the kernel who is watching over all resources (the evil MCP muahahah) may need to lay off some programms in a critical system condition. (oom_kill) No one wants this, so the strategy is to avoid this. We are talking here about the same thing. We need some userspace helper to clean up before it gets critical. yes. agreed. and we need to not use overcommit. you can't go punish apps that have done everything right and by the book. overcommit does this. Yes, it sounds bad to have a error handling for out of memory and then never use it. Ask my mon, she will tell you this is horrible. But my mom does not know the whole picture. its not just the error handling -the SUCCESS case is also now broken. see above. you are liable to be able to segv if you handle the error case or not. And once again. Not having overcommit wastes memory. Why do you think this is worth it? and having it makes apps segv that would not have segv'd before. it wastes developers chasing gdb backtraces and bug reports for something that doesn't even exist as a bug. see above. you'd get an utterly bizarre crash somewhere it just doesn't make sense - you'd possibly spend days or weeks hunting it to no avail as it just isn't what you think it is! the kernel literally has removed your ram from you! there is no bug to hunt!.
Re: ASU - out of memory?
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:36:52 -0400 Chris Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On the other hand, let's say your process allocates some memory and
doesn't use it for a while. In the meantime, some memory is freed.
This doesn't help if malloc() returned null, but it does help if the
kernel overcommitted memory instead.
I don't think that's as useful. But you could instead define a malloc:
void* _malloc(size_t length)
{
void* pointer = malloc(length);
if (!mlock(pointer, length)) return null; // or abort
return pointer;
}
unfortunately... this isn't practical. only root can mlock(). sure. on om we
run all as root - but that is something that probably should change and is not
a sane solution. :)
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Re: ASU - out of memory?
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:53:15 +0200 Clemens Kirchgatterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem is, your might not have the memory to trawl those .desktop files. thus my original write a root daemon - setsched() to realtime priority and mlock() memory space down! (and of course read every page of memory to make sure it's paged in) :) from man mlock: mlock() locks pages in the address range starting at addr and continuing for len bytes. All pages that contain a part of the specified address range are guaranteed to be resi‐ dent in RAM when the call returns successfully; the pages are guaranteed to stay in RAM until later unlocked. so reading every page seams unnessesary to me. aaah yes. that saves the read :) -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What's Enlightenment doing for so long?
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:33:22 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: After de Booting part with a progress report, we get the Boot's again. But I already can ssh into the Freerunner, and doing a top I see that it's enlightenment who's taking a bloody huge time loading up. Feels like about half of the booting time. I wonder what could be done to speed it up... it's 1. loading config 2. connecting to x and querying stuff, settign up atoms and properties 3. loading data (theme) files 4. scanning disk for .desktop files (as these are all the applications) 5. scanning fonts for use 6. setting up ipc 7. testing runtime breakages (eg you removed the png, jpeg or eet loaders from evas as they are runtime replacable modules) 8. dbusinit and connect 9. query some hal info (removable devices etc.) 10. loading its own modules and letting them all do their init. also note it only gets a fraction of the resources - qpe (and its tools like mediaserver and quicklancher) all are fighting over cpu - the animated splash uses a bit too, so as such it's left with about 15-20% of the cpu at least for itself to do its init. the splash of course could be simpler and use less cpu. no plash and u'd just have a blank screen for a while (its a config option of course). -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Googlemaps + tangoGPS
Yorick Moko wrote: Has anybody been able to use googlemaps with tangoGPS? I did. Look at this [1]. [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,174.0.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For editing openstreetmap it is also useful to capture short audio comments. This can be easily done by starting recording when AUX is pressed and stopping it when it is released. I think this is a good idea for any field data collector. I added it to the wiki page. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS logger / field data collection
IMO, just use the raw Ublox binary format. It's rather simple to decode. I have already implemented a binary decoder for the Ublox binary format based on Ublox open documentation of the protocol. My plan is to release this code under the GPL at some point. The only GPS receiver that I have that does u-blox binary format is the one in the Freerunner, and the others are Trimble and Garmin and SiRF and NMEA. So I'd be limited to using only one receiver out of my collection. Especially I'd love to be able to use the fancy Trimble ProXH via bluetooth and not be forced to use the Windows Mobile device they expect you to use. (Trimble Recon) So I was looking for a more general solution. But it's a starting point anyway, and hey, I work on this about 10 minutes a day so I'd say dive in! Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
