Mokomakefile

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Kluge
At the risk ob beeing called a parrot I want to ask the same question again:

Is anyone able to build a 2008.08 image with Mokomakefile?

This is the third time I am asking this. I really noone interested in this? Did 
I miss anything and do we now build images a different way?


Michael



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Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Michael Kluge wrote:
 At the risk ob beeing called a parrot I want to ask the same question again:
 
 Is anyone able to build a 2008.08 image with Mokomakefile?
 
 This is the third time I am asking this. I really noone interested in this? 
 Did I miss anything and do we now build images a different way?

I'm still waiting for Openmoko to decide which branch they are using, so
I can advise people how to build Om2008.8 properly using MokoMakefile.

It used to be org.openmoko.asu.stable, but then someone from openmoko
said they were going to concentrate on org.openmoko.dev instead.

I wish they would create a document like http://shr.bearstech.com/README
so that *everyone* would know how they build their images and can
replicate them outside of Openmoko.

-- Rod

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Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-30 Thread Marek Lindner
On Saturday, 30. August 2008 14:08:48 Rod Whitby wrote:
 I'm still waiting for Openmoko to decide which branch they are using, so
 I can advise people how to build Om2008.8 properly using MokoMakefile.

The decision is made. Julian tried to explain it before but I can try it 
again:


 It used to be org.openmoko.asu.stable, but then someone from openmoko
 said they were going to concentrate on org.openmoko.dev instead.

org.openmoko.asu.stable is the current stable branch on which we base our 
releases. We will continue to provide updates/fixes to make it work more 
reliably. 
This way of releasing is too static and too hard to tweak. Therefore we 
started a new way of releasing - the base / empty image style that is 
coming out of org.openmoko.dev. It wont have other aplications preinstalled 
other than settings and installer. Everyone can create his dream phone. 
Many things have to be merged and reorganized, so that it is work in 
progress. Once it proves to be stablized it will become our new stable.


Marek

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Re: ePDFviewer and reflowing text

2008-08-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Risto H. Kurppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi there,
 
  I have installed ePDFviewer from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/21 after
  loading all missing dependencies from the feed at
  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/ (and it
  was a long list!)

 Could you please post the list here for others?

Sure, here it is, with the paths:

wget http://www.ginguppin.de/files/epdfview_poppler.tar.bz2 and untar
it to a temporary directory.

Then, do what is required as per the instructions here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Epdfview

You will land on the verge of dependency hell.  These are the
libraries you will need to install:

libglib-2.0-0 (= 2.16.4) *  gtk+ (= 2.12.11) *  libcairo2 (= 1.6.4)
*  libpoppler-glib3 (= 0.8.4) in addition to libfreetype6 (=2.3.6)
and libgcc1_4.2.4-r3.  Oh, and you also need libpixman-1-0_0.10.0

Most of the libraries required are not available at all, or with the
correct versions, in the OM repositories.  I installed the package
late last night, so I don't remember the exact sequence of all of
this, and some other minor sub-dependencies, but there is no need to
panic.

You can just get everything from
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/

The more experienced users can add the feed as a repository and let
opkg take all the trouble, but I don't know if this disrupts your
regular updates:

echo src/gz angstrom-2008
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/
 /etc/opkg/angstrom.conf
and
opkg update

Then: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:your/temp/directory/location# opkg install
epdfview_0.1.6-r3_armv4t.ipk

If you are fine with the extra effort versus risk, better try doing it
like this without adding the repo:
(exampli gratia)
opkg install 
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libpixman-1-0_0.10.0-r0_armv4t.ipk
(this was probably the lowest level dependency that needed to be
installed)

When you install gtk+ from angstrom-distribution.org (provided other
dependencies are satisfied), you will run up to an error with it's
wanting to replace some libraries.  I used the -force-overwrite option
to do it, YMMV.

The best way is to start from the epdfview package, and install
dependencies as they come up.  It is best accomplished through SSH,
with the angstrom feed open in a browser, so you can directly copy and
paste the package urls.

HTH.

Now what about reflowing text?

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Re: Is 2008.9 usable?

2008-08-30 Thread Olivier Berger
William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is this correct:

 Will 2008.9 make phone calls (2008.8 never connected once over the few
 days I tried it)


What's your definition of 2008.8 : upgraded with the stable upgrade
feeds ?

Also, can you point at a corresponding bug number for the connection
problem... I'm sure that would help the support team.

Just my 2 cents,
-- 
Olivier BERGER 
(OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F)
http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/

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Re: ePDFviewer and reflowing text

2008-08-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 echo src/gz angstrom-2008
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/
 /etc/opkg/angstrom.conf
 and
 opkg update


If you did that, once you install epdfview successfully, also be kind enough to
mv /etc/opkg/anstrom.conf /etc/opkg/angstrom.conf.bak

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Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Marek Lindner wrote:
 On Saturday, 30. August 2008 14:08:48 Rod Whitby wrote:
 I'm still waiting for Openmoko to decide which branch they are using, so
 I can advise people how to build Om2008.8 properly using MokoMakefile.
 
 The decision is made. Julian tried to explain it before but I can try it 
 again:
 
 
 It used to be org.openmoko.asu.stable, but then someone from openmoko
 said they were going to concentrate on org.openmoko.dev instead.
 
 org.openmoko.asu.stable is the current stable branch on which we base our 
 releases. We will continue to provide updates/fixes to make it work more 
 reliably. 

OK, can you describe *exactly* how you built that released image and how
you build those updates/fixes, so that others can replicate.

The level of detail found in http://shr.bearstech.com/README is appropriate:

1) Git repo site
2) Git repo URL
3) Git repo branch
4) DISTRO setting (assume openmoko, but please confirm)
5) MACHINE setting (assume om-gta02, but please confirm)
6) whether moko-autorev and/or fso-autorev is included
7) The OS on which the image and updates are built
8) The set of host OS packages installed on the machine on which the
image and updates are built.

-- Rod

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HAL update, OM2008.8

2008-08-30 Thread Nishit Dave
Hi,

The current upgrade of hal from 0.5.9-r6 to 0.5.11-r0 today through
the official repository led to the following exit message (relating to
haldaemon):
Cannot create link over existing -/etc/resolv.conf-.
which would be the case because of the earlier resolvconf problem
being solved manually by creating a real /etc/resolv.conf file.  Now,
should that file be replaced again with a link, and how?

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RFC: delete page USB

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Shiloh
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB

Minimal information is amply duplicated elsewhere, and the list of USB 
related pages is exactly what the USB category shows.


Michael

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Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-30 Thread Marek Lindner
On Saturday, 30. August 2008 15:17:35 Rod Whitby wrote:
 OK, can you describe *exactly* how you built that released image and how
 you build those updates/fixes, so that others can replicate.

 1) Git repo site
 2) Git repo URL
 3) Git repo branch
 4) DISTRO setting (assume openmoko, but please confirm)
 5) MACHINE setting (assume om-gta02, but please confirm)
 6) whether moko-autorev and/or fso-autorev is included
 7) The OS on which the image and updates are built
 8) The set of host OS packages installed on the machine on which the
 image and updates are built.


This should be answered by Julian or Graeme.


Marek


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Re: HAL update, OM2008.8

2008-08-30 Thread Matt
Nishit Dave wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The current upgrade of hal from 0.5.9-r6 to 0.5.11-r0 today through
 the official repository led to the following exit message (relating to
 haldaemon):
 Cannot create link over existing -/etc/resolv.conf-.
 which would be the case because of the earlier resolvconf problem
 being solved manually by creating a real /etc/resolv.conf file.  Now,
 should that file be replaced again with a link, and how?
 
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Move resolv.conf to /var/run/resolv.conf and then link /etc/resolv.conf 
to it.
maybe.

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Re: ASU / om2008.8 - opkg upgrade failed - can't ssh into the phone

2008-08-30 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can boot from a SD card and mount your internal flash from within that 
 environment (/dev/mtdblk6 or something ilke that).  Check the wiki for 
 details.

Yes, I could do that. thank for reminding me.
However, the SD card is currently blank.
It will be easier to reflash.
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn

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Is it possible to netboot a FreeRunner?

2008-08-30 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

I just got a strange idea into my head. So I'll ask a possibly silly question:

Is it possble to netboot a Neo FreeRunner? Can you netboot at all over usb?
Does uboot have netbot support?
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen

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Address and qpe take up 100% CPU

2008-08-30 Thread Richy
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Hey out there.

My Freerunner arrived 2 days ago and I'm actually impressed by 2008.8.
(Some quirks, here and there but hey..)
I figured how to change the keyboard to something usable, (however, I
like the standard- keyboard, it is just not there yet. -- manual input
is desperately needed. (my wlan password is not in a dictionary, for
example).

There are some issues with qpe and the address book.
qpe takes all cpu-power on startup. This is due to scanning of the
SD-Card (with openstreetmaps on it).
That takes a while, but usually you don't reboot your phone that often.
However, once this is done and I open the addressbook the neo gets
slow an unresponsive.
qpe starts to take 35% CPUtime and the addressbook 65%.. even in idle
or when in background. -- thus making placing phonecalls impossible.
(And yes, I do need the addressbook to do that. )

Is that a known problem? If so, is there a workaround or patch in sight?
I couldn't find anything using google.
I will happily supply any information needed. (logs, etc)

Thanks a million

Richard
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Re: Re: Tichy and pygame on OM2008.8 update

2008-08-30 Thread rhn
The problem is solved by:

opkg install cpp

as stated on some mailing list I found yesterday

 Wiadomość Oryginalna 
Od: yves mahe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do: community@lists.openmoko.org
Data: 29 sierpnia 2008 19:43
Temat: Re: Tichy and pygame on OM2008.8 update

 I tried to use cython for the tichy's GUI because it's  really slow:
 
 opkg install gcc make gcc-symlinks
 
 and the make fails :
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tichy/tichy/guic# make
 cc -c -fPIC -I. -I/usr/include/python2.5/ 
 -L/usr/local/openmoko/arm/usr/lib/ -O3 -fno-strict-aliasing geo.c -o geo.o
 cc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory
 make: *** [geo.o] Error 1
 
 
 I will investigate later.
 Yves Mahé
 
 
 yves mahe wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I finally install pygame and tichy on OM2008.8 update (27/08/2008)
  
  I used
  
  - opkg install 
  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/base/libsmpeg-0.4-0_0.4.4+0.4.5cvs20040311-r0_armv4t.ipk
  - opkg install 
  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/python/python-pygame_1..7.1-ml2_armv4t.ipk
  
  I lazily patch tichy here in tichy/tichy/timeservice/timeservice.py
  line 45
   # self.event_id = gobject.timeout_add_seconds(1, 
  self.time_changed)
   self.event_id = gobject.timeout_add(1, self.time_changed)
  
  Yves Mahé
 
 
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Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-30 Thread Ole Kliemann
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 02:04:37PM +0930, Rod Whitby wrote:
 Stroller wrote:
  I thought the standard now was unlimited data plans.
 ...
  You have my sympathies if you're not on an unlimited data plan, Ole,  
  but I would see unlimited data use as the long-term expectation of  
  OpenMoko projects.
 
 Please don't assume that everyone has unlimited data plans.  It is not
 as common in many parts of the world as it is in your part of the world.
 
 I expect the IMAP client on my openmoko phone to be able to download all
 my email for offline reading, deleting, and replying on the bus with
 *no* internet connectivity, and then sync all those changes seamlessly
 to the server as soon as I get the next internet connection.

This sounds like a reasonable way to handle it. 

But the email traffic I have to handle on the road is really rather low
volume. My idea of VoIP notification certainly isn't very useful for
someone who gets several mails an hour. In this case IMAP-idle or with
interval checking is probably better. I was more looking for a way to
pass signals to my mobile without having to pay for it.

  For £20 this includes unlimited texts and one of the
  following free bolt-ons: unlimited texts (WTF?), unlimited O2 to O2
  Calls, unlimited Web Bolt On, unlimited weekend calls, unlimited
  landline calls, unlimited Wi-Fi, 200 extra anytime minutes. https://
  shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/simonly

I don't have unlimited data plan. But if I assume 20 pound per month for
my mobile bill, I practically have unlimited data too. ;-)

Ole


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No suspend since last update

2008-08-30 Thread julien cubizolles
My Freerunner won't automatically suspend since last update from
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/. I can still suspend
manually though. Anybody experienced the same ?


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Re: contacts: lookup on incoming call

2008-08-30 Thread Dale Maggee

 b) I'd call it a bug, or maybe a feature...
 
 By calling it a feature I feel compelled to ask, are you a Microsoft
 employee?
   
hehehe, Does VB Programmer count as a Microsoft Employee? it's almost 
as bad, apparently... ;)

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Sound problems under Debian

2008-08-30 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Hello

I've just succeeded to install Debian on the Freerunner together with
xfce4 following the instructions in
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner and
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian. 

Most things run fine and just as expected. 

There are, however, sound problems. The Wiki doesn't give any special
instruction on sound, like installing a new alsa-package or building a
kernel module. Can I have overlooked anything?

1. There seems to be no sound at all. 'aplay file.wav' just pretends
to play but neither gives any output nor returns the cursor.

2. xfmedia doesn't start at all. An attempt to start the program from
a shell, too, doesn't give any output or error message.

3. The ring tone is just a lousy noise.

4. During a phone call, voices are poorly transmitted (noisy), for me
as well as for the recipient.

Help would be very welcome. Everything is working alright under the
default system. So, a hardware defect can be excluded.

Thanks

Sven


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Re: Is 2008.9 usable?

2008-08-30 Thread Dale Maggee
Olivier Berger wrote:
 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 Is this correct:

 Will 2008.9 make phone calls (2008.8 never connected once over the few
 days I tried it)

 

 What's your definition of 2008.8 : upgraded with the stable upgrade
 feeds ?

 Also, can you point at a corresponding bug number for the connection
 problem... I'm sure that would help the support team.

 Just my 2 cents,
   

I believe he's talking about bug #1766



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Re: Is it possible to netboot a FreeRunner?

2008-08-30 Thread Andreas Zuber
Am Samstag 30 August 2008 10:06:01 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen:
 Hi,

 I just got a strange idea into my head. So I'll ask a possibly silly
 question:

 Is it possble to netboot a Neo FreeRunner? Can you netboot at all over usb?
 Does uboot have netbot support?

I know uboot from an other embedded system, where it was installed, and it is 
able to download a kernel from a tftp server to the memory. This is done by 
the tftpboot command.
There is also a dhcp command so uboot can get an ip for the network.

But i dont know if uboot can handle the usb as a network device. Someone has 
already tried this?

Regards
Andy

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Re: HAL update, OM2008.8

2008-08-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nishit Dave wrote:
 Hi,

 The current upgrade of hal from 0.5.9-r6 to 0.5.11-r0 today through
 the official repository led to the following exit message (relating to
 haldaemon):
 Cannot create link over existing -/etc/resolv.conf-.
 which would be the case because of the earlier resolvconf problem
 being solved manually by creating a real /etc/resolv.conf file.  Now,
 should that file be replaced again with a link, and how?



 Move resolv.conf to /var/run/resolv.conf and then link /etc/resolv.conf
 to it.
 maybe.

Found an update on the wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues

NOTE: Solusion: Steps to add missing scripts:

touch /etc/resolvconf/run/enable-updates
cd /etc ; rm resolv.conf ; ln -s /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf .
mkdir /lib/resolvconf/ ; cd /lib/resolvconf/
wget http://kopparv34.mine.nu/list-records
Edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove the lines:
network 192.168.0.0
gateway 192.168.0.200
If we need to use the usb network more then just locally from the computer
in the other end of the USB-cable, login with ssh and add a default route
like this:
route add default gateway 192.168.0.200


I haven't tried it so far.
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Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-30 Thread Dietmar Friede
On Saturday 30 August 2008, Michael Kluge wrote:
 At the risk ob beeing called a parrot I want to ask the same question
 again:

 Is anyone able to build a 2008.08 image with Mokomakefile?
Yes, I am building all of the images. It is slow. The first time you have to
start the make over and over again until your are done...
But thats all in the wiki page.

So you might need a day or two.

Do not use the parallel modus. It only breaks the make earlier.
Some times you simply have to wait until  sources get available.

If you got your build(s). The daily update is simple and rather fast.

The meaning of the different images is obviously a moving target.

Dietmar Friede

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Re: [Bug Filing Policy] please read before crate ticket

2008-08-30 Thread Holger Freyther
On Saturday 30 August 2008 05:29:38 Stroller wrote:
 On 29 Aug 2008, at 11:36, regina wrote:
  ...
  when you guys Report please follow below thing otherwise *we will
  close
  that ticket immediately.*
  ...
  Please Read this first  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/
  Bug_Filing_Policy

 It's not much use having a list of requirements without which we
 will close that ticket immediately, pointing us to a wiki page and
 then NOT  HAVING A LIST OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS ON THAT WIKI PAGE.

 Also the title less is more on that wiki page doesn't make much
 sense. Those are sensible requirements in that section, but you want
 less than that??

 And honestly, me too will cause the engineers not to look at the
 issue? How about i can reproduce this, also? Because if I don't
 have time to provide more info I will happily add an i can reproduce
 this, also comment so that you know the bug is not an isolated case.

Well, the reality is we have a lot of people screaming me too where it is 
simply not the case. So the six comments they leave behind is anything but 
useful to this report (sure their problems need addressing and they can file 
a new ticket or go to the support ml).

Confirming the bug or providing additional information (log file) is good but 
after the second logfile normally the information does not increase anymore.

If you are willing to help you can monitor the bug. Add yourself to CC, set a 
bookmark and see if more information come by or if there is something to 
test.

And sure we have different kind of bugs. E.g. if you currently experience 
#1597 and have a debug board attached I sure want to know this and want to 
debug on irc/jabber. But these are mostly limited to kernel issues and are 5 
of 2000 bugreports.

z.

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CRCFAIL 0x1a3f

2008-08-30 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Hi.

Everytime I boot (ever since I got my FR) I've seen a bunch (6) of
CRCFAIL 0x1a3f messages. What are they? Should I care?

Thanks in advance,

Fredrik


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Re: CRCFAIL 0x1a3f

2008-08-30 Thread xiangfu
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may be the KERNEL CRC check ,
you can try a new kernel.

http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/


Fredrik Wendt wrote:
 Hi.
 
 Everytime I boot (ever since I got my FR) I've seen a bunch (6) of
 CRCFAIL 0x1a3f messages. What are they? Should I care?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
   Fredrik
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Re: CRCFAIL 0x1a3f

2008-08-30 Thread xiangfu
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Sorry, ignore my last e-mail.

try to read this:
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td532868

Fredrik Wendt wrote:
 Hi.
 
 Everytime I boot (ever since I got my FR) I've seen a bunch (6) of
 CRCFAIL 0x1a3f messages. What are they? Should I care?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-30 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Friday 29 August 2008, Florian Hackenberger wrote:
 I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11

Ok, here comes the patch. It's tiny and it works (just confirmed on my 
Neo). Attached to the trac ticket:
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267

Please apply.

Cheers, Florian

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Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Julian Chu wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:57:37PM +0930, Rod Whitby wrote:
  
 Will you be autobuilding from the OE git repository or the OM git
 repository?

 If the latter, will non-Openmoko staff have commit rights?

 If not, then we will still need autobuilders for the community
 distributions, since there is no automatic syncing from repositories
 with community commit rights to the Openmoko repository as far as I am
 aware.
 
We auto-build from OM git tree.
And we still trying to make it close to OE git tree.

It's that delay (which is often a number of days) which means that we
still needs auto-builders (especially for FSO and SHR) which build
directly from the OE git tree.

Since Openmoko now has it's own stable branches
(org.openmoko.asu.stable), I don't see the reason for having a separate
org.openmoko.dev branch separate from org.openembedded.dev - in an ideal
world you would be always in sync with the org.openembedded.dev branch
without any delay caused by manual syncing by Graeme.

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Re: ePDFviewer and reflowing text

2008-08-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Nishit Dave wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Risto H. Kurppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have installed ePDFviewer from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/21 after
 loading all missing dependencies from the feed at
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/ (and it
 was a long list!)
 Could you please post the list here for others?
 Sure, here it is, with the paths:
...
 Then: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:your/temp/directory/location# opkg install
 epdfview_0.1.6-r3_armv4t.ipk

FYI, epdfview 0.1.6 should be available in the fso/shr feeds within an
hour or so.

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Re: ePDFviewer and reflowing text

2008-08-30 Thread Jean-Eric Cuendet
  Then: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:your/temp/directory/location# opkg install
  epdfview_0.1.6-r3_armv4t.ipk

 FYI, epdfview 0.1.6 should be available in the fso/shr feeds within an
 hour or so.


That means that SHR is live? I haven't seen any image from SHR
Is there somewhere?





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Re: QtGps for Trolltechs Qtopia

2008-08-30 Thread Aaron Sowry
On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 11:48 -0700, Jim Morris wrote:
 Radek Barton( wrote:
  
  Do anyone have compiled package for share? Otherwise I would need to make 
  one 
  just to try an application :-). Thanks.
  
 
 Yes if you go to the blog, and download the tar file, there is an executable 
 called qtgps, you just 
 copy that to your FR, and run it on the FR.
 
 http://blog.wolfman.com/articles/2008/08/27/porting-xgps-to-qtopia-for-the-freerunner
 http://blog.wolfman.com/files/qtgps.tar.gz
 

I get this:

# ./qtgps 
./qtgps: error while loading shared libraries: libQtSvg.so.4: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

Aaron

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2008.8: Enlightenment crashing at bootup after upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi all,

I ran into this problem now for the second time. The first time I had 
installed 2008.8 with zeckes feed. After a some days opkg update  opkg 
upgrade destroyed my enlightenment installation. At startup it crashes 
(SIGSEV) leaving me with a MessageBox with options for retrying or exiting. 
Retry doesn't help.

Because of this I decided to re-flash my Neo and installed 2008.8-update 
(original feeds). The first 2 days everything was working fine. Today I 
executed an opkg update  opkg upgrade and I'm stuck with the same problem.

Has anyone an Idea how to restore enlightenment, so that I don't have to re-
flash and start from the beginning?

I have already tried to reinstall e-wm and illume via opkg -force-reinstall. 
Didn't fix it...

Thanks in advance,
Michael

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Re: ePDFviewer and reflowing text

2008-08-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  echo src/gz angstrom-2008
  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/
  /etc/opkg/angstrom.conf
  and
  opkg update
 

 If you did that, once you install epdfview successfully, also be kind
 enough to
 mv /etc/opkg/anstrom.conf /etc/opkg/angstrom.conf.bak


Probably due to all the dependencies I installed for epdfview, I was able to
install the
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+gitr6fecc78198dd821bbe29efd096bd8fecd855179d-r0_armv4t.ipk
gsm muxer for gprs without any missing dependencies.  Just for the record.
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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-30 Thread Yann SLADEK
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Hi,

does your patch work with a FreeRunner ?
if yes, why are we able to cancel the echo by setting some values under
gsmhandset.state here :
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028465.html

It's not against you at all, it's just to understand


Florian Hackenberger a écrit :
 On Friday 29 August 2008, Florian Hackenberger wrote:
 I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11
 
 Ok, here comes the patch. It's tiny and it works (just confirmed on my 
 Neo). Attached to the trac ticket:
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267
 
 Please apply.
 
 Cheers, Florian
 
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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-30 Thread William Kenworthy
Because those settings improve it from horrible to sorta acceptable, at
the expense of lowering the volume.  This looks like a real fix.

BillK

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 Hi,
 
 does your patch work with a FreeRunner ?
 if yes, why are we able to cancel the echo by setting some values under
 gsmhandset.state here :
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028465.html
 
 It's not against you at all, it's just to understand
 
 
 Florian Hackenberger a écrit :
  On Friday 29 August 2008, Florian Hackenberger wrote:
  I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11
  
  Ok, here comes the patch. It's tiny and it works (just confirmed on my 
  Neo). Attached to the trac ticket:
  https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267
  
  Please apply.
  
  Cheers, Florian
  
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Re: Openmoko French Usermeeting

2008-08-30 Thread Sylvain Bertrand
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Lucas Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

  this will only be of interest for the French readers of this mailing
 list (but my mail is in English, go figure).

 The French-speaking Openmoko community is gathering in Paris on
 September 5th, to talk (and hack) about everything related to Openmoko.


 Links:
  * http://bearstech.com/actualites/lopenmoko-se-cuisine
  * http://openmoko-fr.org/wiki/index.php/2008-09-05_:_La_Cantine

 Please join us and register on the wiki page! No need to own a
 Freerunner/1973 to come :)


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Bonjour,
À priori, le meeting du 2600fr parisien de septembre a été rerouté sur
votre meeting. Je ne sais pas si des membres du meeting 2600 se sont
déjà inscrits dans le wiki, mais en général on est entre 2 et 20
personnes. Les annonces ont été faites, personne n'a fait d'objection
à la fusion des 2 meetings..
Bravo pour cette intiative. Des hacketons sur le freerunner et le
freesmartphone framework sont d'excellentes initiatives.

Cordialement,

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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-30 Thread Valerio Valerio
2008/8/29 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  a ReMoko package with ability to send events through gestures (Paul's
 daemon
  - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures) is available now in:
  http://code.google.com/p/remoko/downloads/list
 
  Installation and usage instructions can be reached in this page:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Bluetooth_remote_controller
 
  The gestures daemon is a little bit heavy right now (about 20% cpu
 usage),
  so the ReMoko mouse profile (heavy too) will slow down a little bit if
 you
  have more program running one the phone, just the warning :)
 
  I will appreciate a lot if someone in the community make a video using
  ReMoko (mouse, keyboard and gestures controlling for example a slideshow
 or
  Amarok), I can't upload a video now because I only have internet access
 by a
  limited data plan :) (3g card).
 
  I appreciate some feedback, specially from people that can test the app
 with
  Windows Vista and Mac OSX.
 
 
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 When it can't connect to anything it just keeps stating Waiting for
 connection on Om2008.8-upgrade I can not close it. Closing it by
 pressing on the cross or in the topbar does not work. Killall remoko
 also has no effect; nor does killal python; I have to killall -9
 python.


It works fine with FSO and standard Om 2008.8. I've to test it again.

Best regards,
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http://www.valeriovalerio.org



 I have only one bluetooth enabled device nearby: my ps3.
 I go to manage bluetooth devices and let it scan and then I start
 remoko. It never finds the phone, while it does find the carkit of my
 mother when she parks right outside.
 What do I need to do to make it work?
 (if you need some more info, just ask and I'll happily provide it)

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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-30 Thread Valerio Valerio
2008/8/29 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  When it can't connect to anything it just keeps stating Waiting for
  connection on Om2008.8-upgrade I can not close it. Closing it by
  pressing on the cross or in the topbar does not work. Killall remoko
  also has no effect; nor does killal python; I have to killall -9
  python.
 
  I have only one bluetooth enabled device nearby: my ps3.
  I go to manage bluetooth devices and let it scan and then I start
  remoko. It never finds the phone, while it does find the carkit of my
  mother when she parks right outside.
  What do I need to do to make it work?
  (if you need some more info, just ask and I'll happily provide it)
 
  y
 

 Update:
 It now shows the BlueZ (0) device
 but when I select register on my PS3 i get:
 An error occurred during the register operation. Try to register
 again. (80010009)


This happens because the PS3 is trying to register a special service record,
the ReMoko app have a standard keyboard and mouse combo service record. Do
you know if is possible to use a standard bluetooth keyboard in the PS3 ? I
only know that is possible to use some special bluetooth keyboard, that only
work in the PS3.

The PS3 and the WII have a custom Bluetooth HID profile, so the standard
bluetooth mouse's and keyboard's are not expected to work in the consoles.

Best regards,

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http://www.valeriovalerio.org



 When I try it without running remoko it briefly (1s) give me a serie
 of numbers i have to enter on my bluetooth device to register it and
 then I get the same error message.

 Is there a log of bluez i can consult?
 Should I file a bug report?

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Re: RFC: delete page USB

2008-08-30 Thread Fredrik Wendt
lör 2008-08-30 klockan 00:29 -0700 skrev Michael Shiloh:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB

My comment: Just go ahead! :)

/ Fredrik


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OM2008.8, GPRS using multiplexing and GUI for Vodafone Live! in Mumbai

2008-08-30 Thread Nishit Dave
Hi,

I am going by the instructions here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI

I have installed the gsm0710muxd and everything seems to have gone fine.
Now, using the Services GUI, I am not able to get GPRS working.  First, the
settings I have for my connection

user:
password:
(both are supposed to be blank)
APN: portalnmms
Primary gateway IP: 10.10.1.100
Port:9401

On my FR, my /etc/ppp/pap-secrets and /etc/ppp/chap-secrets now read like
this:

# clientserver  secret  IP addresses
* * *

The last line of my /etc/ppp/peers/gprs file reads
user *

(should this be user  or user * ?)

as advised here:
http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295(replaced
PUT_USERNAME_IN_HERE)

I'm using *99# as the default dial number, as it isn't clear what Vodafone
Live! uses in Mumbai, India.

Ross Barkman (http://www.taniwha.org.uk/gprs.html) says the settings should
be user: guest, secret: guest.  However, it doesn't seem accurate.

I don't know whether the gateway IP is to be inserted in the routing table,
and if so, how the port is to be specified.  From the first couple of
attempts with the scripts and GUI, GPRS seemed to work but actually it
didn't.  Now, I only get a FAILED status report in the GUI.

Can anybody tell me if I need to modify the pap/chap-secret files, or the
gprs file, or the dialled number?  If this starts to work, I can start using
the FR as my daytime (office only) phone plus the GPS.
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Re: GTA05 suggestions

2008-08-30 Thread Jeff Sadowski
It would be cool to have one as a USB host and another as usb client.

2008/8/29 Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Lally Singh wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Radek Bartoň [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Card accesible from outside would be great too. Disassembling hood and SIM
 card is really annoying so far.


 A second USB port would be nice, too.

 There's a lot of fun to be had in hooking external electronics to the
 OM.  Honestly, so much fun that it's really worth exploring.

 But, it's not really fair to expect OM to sell (or bundle in) all the
 little goodies we'd like, like the X10 transceiver, compass, etc.

 Instead, how about two screw bolts around one of the USB connectors
 (like the PSP) and some means of getting a little plastic case 
 electronics board that plugs in.  I'm thinking more of a listing with
 a 3rd party USB enclosure for custom electronics.  Let the community
 build the cool stuff, and we'll share what we did!  OM's only got to:
 1) decide on a USB enclosure to be physically compatible with
 2) add in the screw bolts around a USB port.

 And the rest of us can have all the fun hacking away with the possibilities 
 :-)



 I think that this is a great idea, but to clarify, this should be a
 _second_ USB port, so that you can be charging / usb networking while
 using these add-on devices you buy/build...


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Re: No suspend since last update

2008-08-30 Thread umaxx
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:23:46 +0200
julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My Freerunner won't automatically suspend since last update from
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/. I can still
 suspend manually though. Anybody experienced the same ?

yes, same here. open a ticket?

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Re: saving and restoring GPS data for U-blox chip quicker startup

2008-08-30 Thread digger vermont
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 10:59 +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 Vasco Névoa wrote:
  Hi all.
 
 Hi Vasco,
 
  I don't know how far anyone has gone in this subject, so I took the
  liberty to experiment.
 
 There is at least two that I know of, some ruby script:
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/browser/developers/alphaone/u-blox
 
 And some python script in the FSO framwork. Look 
 framework/subsystems/ogpsd/
 

I just looked.  It's in ubx.py.   There was also recently a warmstart
patch committed.

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Florian Hackenberger 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 29 August 2008, Florian Hackenberger wrote:
  I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11

 Ok, here comes the patch. It's tiny and it works (just confirmed on my
 Neo). Attached to the trac ticket:
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267

 Does this apply only to GTA01?  I am getting a Not Downgrading message
when I try to install it on GTA02.  Further, what is the .patch file for?
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Re: No suspend since last update

2008-08-30 Thread Mr. Morph
julien cubizolles wrote:
 My Freerunner won't automatically suspend since last update from
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/. I can still suspend
 manually though. Anybody experienced the same ?
 
 
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I flashed the 2008.8-update image from today. Now it suspends everytime, 
even if I configure over the Settings-Tool not to suspend.

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Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Jean-Eric Cuendet
Hi,
2 questions:
1) Which media player do you use?

2) I installed QTopia one, and don't know how to tell it where is my
music...

Any tip?
Thanks
-jec
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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/8/30 Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,
 2 questions:
 1) Which media player do you use?


the qtopia one!



 2) I installed QTopia one, and don't know how to tell it where is my
 music...


it take only wav music from /media/card... not mp3 or ogg, only wav...
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Re: No suspend since last update

2008-08-30 Thread Søren Kristiansen



Mr. Morph wrote:
 
 julien cubizolles wrote:
 My Freerunner won't automatically suspend since last update from
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/. I can still suspend
 manually though. Anybody experienced the same ?
 
 
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 I flashed the 2008.8-update image from today. Now it suspends everytime, 
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I get the exact same thing. Flashed today's image too. A large 'X' pops up
and the phone suspends after a few seconds.
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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-30 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/8/30 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Florian Hackenberger 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 29 August 2008, Florian Hackenberger wrote:
  I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11

 Ok, here comes the patch. It's tiny and it works (just confirmed on my
 Neo). Attached to the trac ticket:
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267

 Does this apply only to GTA01?  I am getting a Not Downgrading message
 when I try to install it on GTA02.  Further, what is the .patch file for?

I also get the same error, on om 2008.08 update
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Re: No suspend since last update

2008-08-30 Thread Tom Yates
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, umaxx wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:23:46 +0200
 julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My Freerunner won't automatically suspend since last update from
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/. I can still
 suspend manually though. Anybody experienced the same ?

 yes, same here. open a ticket?

i can confirm it too (/etc/angstrom-version says Angstrom 
P1-Snapshot-20080830).  if you could bear to open a ticket, that would be 
most kind.


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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:04:59 Thomas Bertani wrote:
 2008/8/30 Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  2) I installed QTopia one, and don't know how to tell it where is my
  music...

 it take only wav music from /media/card... not mp3 or ogg, only wav...

I just copied a folder containing mp3 files to /home/root/Documents/. After 
restarting the xserver the files showed up in qtopias media player and I could 
play them. Unfortunately on om-2008.8 it is slightly too slow yet for normal 
use. It takes ages until the GUI responds for example for changing the volume 
while a mp3 is playing. On qtopia it did work nicely.

Haven't tried ogg yet with it.

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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/8/30 Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:04:59 Thomas Bertani wrote:
  2008/8/30 Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   2) I installed QTopia one, and don't know how to tell it where is my
   music...
 
  it take only wav music from /media/card... not mp3 or ogg, only wav...

 I just copied a folder containing mp3 files to /home/root/Documents/. After
 restarting the xserver the files showed up in qtopias media player and I
 could
 play them. Unfortunately on om-2008.8 it is slightly too slow yet for
 normal
 use. It takes ages until the GUI responds for example for changing the
 volume
 while a mp3 is playing. On qtopia it did work nicely.

 Haven't tried ogg yet with it.

:O
sorry I read the info above from a forum and I haven't tested them yet...
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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/8/30 Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 2008/8/30 Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:04:59 Thomas Bertani wrote:
  2008/8/30 Jean-Eric Cuendet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   2) I installed QTopia one, and don't know how to tell it where is my
   music...
 
  it take only wav music from /media/card... not mp3 or ogg, only wav...

 I just copied a folder containing mp3 files to /home/root/Documents/.
 After
 restarting the xserver the files showed up in qtopias media player and I
 could
 play them. Unfortunately on om-2008.8 it is slightly too slow yet for
 normal
 use. It takes ages until the GUI responds for example for changing the
 volume
 while a mp3 is playing. On qtopia it did work nicely.



ehm... I copied in a folder (called sounds a mp3 song to
/home/root/Documents/, I restarted X but the qtopia-x11 media player is
empty... it doesn't show my mp3 file... how do you used it exactly? (sorry
for my bad english)
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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:43:26 Thomas Bertani wrote:

 ehm... I copied in a folder (called sounds a mp3 song to
 /home/root/Documents/, I restarted X but the qtopia-x11 media player is
 empty... it doesn't show my mp3 file... how do you used it exactly? (sorry
 for my bad english)

I cannot retry it at the moment because my Openmoko currently is a BrokenMoko 
(See my other thread in this list). But I'm fairly sure I did that like I sad 
before. Perhaps you could try a reboot to make the Media Player recognize the 
tracks.

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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Bastian Muck
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Michael Zanetti schrieb:
 On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:43:26 Thomas Bertani wrote:

 ehm... I copied in a folder (called sounds a mp3 song to
 /home/root/Documents/, I restarted X but the qtopia-x11 media player is
 empty... it doesn't show my mp3 file... how do you used it exactly? (sorry
 for my bad english)

 I cannot retry it at the moment because my Openmoko currently is a
BrokenMoko
 (See my other thread in this list). But I'm fairly sure I did that like
I sad
 before. Perhaps you could try a reboot to make the Media Player
recognize the
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I can confirm that this works. But the media players seems not to read
the ID3-Tag. An it isn't usable. You can hear half a second and then
you have half a second break. But it can play mp3

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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Zanetti
 I can confirm that this works. But the media players seems not to read
 the ID3-Tag. An it isn't usable. You can hear half a second and then
 you have half a second break. But it can play mp3


On my setup it played without skips as long as I didn't try to move some 
controls or working with any other application. But anyway, you're right. It 
is not ready yet for daily use.

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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Saturday 30 August 2008 18:12:26 Thomas Bertani wrote:

 you rebooted after copying the mp3 files on the phone?

Yes. It was just a guess that it could be sufficient to restart the X-Server. 
Rebooting the device works for sure. While looking through your processes you 
will find one called /opt/Qtopia/bin/mediaserver. I think this is the one 
that needs to be restarted. But how I already said. I cannot test it 
currently.

 and where do you copyed the mp3 files? in which folder?

/home/root/Documents/Artist Name\Album Name\File Name.mp3

I'm quite sure it doesn't matter what folder structure you have. It depends 
just on what folders the mediaserver searches for files.

Good luck.

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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Dylan Reilly
There are several tricks to getting the qtopia media player to find your
music properly.

1) Your  music must be located in one of the paths defined in
/opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltek/Storage.conf (or something similar, I do
not have my device at the moment). By default those are only /home and the
*first* partition of the SD card. You can edit Storage.conf to your liking
but will have to restart X to get it to start reading the new file systems.

2) There seems to be a problem with both media players where they will fail
to properly read files (id3 tags and playing) when your files are either
stored not on the first partition of the SD card, or if the partition is not
formatted as FAT. I say either because I have not tested further to discover
which is the real culprit.

As to the qtopia media player being slow, it is only slow the first time it
loads per device boot. It seems to do much reading and caching the first
time through. If you keep it up for a while the experience improves
significantly.

Finally, there is still a issue with pulse audio suspending. If you have a
stream open through pulseaudio when you resume pulseaudio will be locked
and nothing will play. One might be able to rectify this by killing
qtopia-mediaserver after suspend but I have not tested that. If in doubt,
turn off suspend before playing music.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Michael Zanetti schrieb:
  On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:43:26 Thomas Bertani wrote:
 
  ehm... I copied in a folder (called sounds a mp3 song to
  /home/root/Documents/, I restarted X but the qtopia-x11 media player is
  empty... it doesn't show my mp3 file... how do you used it exactly?
 (sorry
  for my bad english)
 
  I cannot retry it at the moment because my Openmoko currently is a
 BrokenMoko
  (See my other thread in this list). But I'm fairly sure I did that like
 I sad
  before. Perhaps you could try a reboot to make the Media Player
 recognize the
  tracks.
 
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 I can confirm that this works. But the media players seems not to read
 the ID3-Tag. An it isn't usable. You can hear half a second and then
 you have half a second break. But it can play mp3

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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/8/30 Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 There are several tricks to getting the qtopia media player to find your
 music properly.

 1) Your  music must be located in one of the paths defined in
 /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltek/Storage.conf (or something similar, I do
 not have my device at the moment). By default those are only /home and the
 *first* partition of the SD card. You can edit Storage.conf to your liking
 but will have to restart X to get it to start reading the new file systems.

 2) There seems to be a problem with both media players where they will fail
 to properly read files (id3 tags and playing) when your files are either
 stored not on the first partition of the SD card, or if the partition is not
 formatted as FAT. I say either because I have not tested further to discover
 which is the real culprit.

 As to the qtopia media player being slow, it is only slow the first time it
 loads per device boot. It seems to do much reading and caching the first
 time through. If you keep it up for a while the experience improves
 significantly.

 Finally, there is still a issue with pulse audio suspending. If you have a
 stream open through pulseaudio when you resume pulseaudio will be locked
 and nothing will play. One might be able to rectify this by killing
 qtopia-mediaserver after suspend but I have not tested that. If in doubt,
 turn off suspend before playing music.


thanks but... My mediaplayer, I have just tryed, doesn't see mp3 files but
only wav ones... why? oO
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Re: No suspend since last update

2008-08-30 Thread Richy
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Søren Kristiansen
 I get the exact same thing. Flashed today's image too. A large 'X' pops up
 and the phone suspends after a few seconds.


Same here, also the screen stays blank after resuming until I touch it.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/apmd stop
Stopping advanced power management daemon: stopped /usr/sbin/apmd (pid 1277)
apmd.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/ompower stop

showed no effect, it still suspends.

However, my problems concerning qpe are gone now, and it always
resumed.  -- lesser evil ;)
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Re: Media player

2008-08-30 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/8/30 Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 2008/8/30 Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 There are several tricks to getting the qtopia media player to find your
 music properly.

 1) Your  music must be located in one of the paths defined in
 /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltek/Storage.conf (or something similar, I do
 not have my device at the moment). By default those are only /home and the
 *first* partition of the SD card. You can edit Storage.conf to your liking
 but will have to restart X to get it to start reading the new file systems.

 2) There seems to be a problem with both media players where they will
 fail to properly read files (id3 tags and playing) when your files are
 either stored not on the first partition of the SD card, or if the partition
 is not formatted as FAT. I say either because I have not tested further to
 discover which is the real culprit.

 As to the qtopia media player being slow, it is only slow the first time
 it loads per device boot. It seems to do much reading and caching the first
 time through. If you keep it up for a while the experience improves
 significantly.

 Finally, there is still a issue with pulse audio suspending. If you have a
 stream open through pulseaudio when you resume pulseaudio will be locked
 and nothing will play. One might be able to rectify this by killing
 qtopia-mediaserver after suspend but I have not tested that. If in doubt,
 turn off suspend before playing music.


 thanks but... My mediaplayer, I have just tryed, doesn't see mp3 files but
 only wav ones... why? oO


ok it runs. Also with mp3. And it is really fast!
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Re: No suspend since last update

2008-08-30 Thread julien cubizolles
Le samedi 30 août 2008 à 16:31 +0100, Tom Yates a écrit :
 On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, umaxx wrote:
 
  On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:23:46 +0200
  julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My Freerunner won't automatically suspend since last update from
  http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/. I can still
  suspend manually though. Anybody experienced the same ?
 
  yes, same here. open a ticket?
 
 i can confirm it too (/etc/angstrom-version says Angstrom 
 P1-Snapshot-20080830).  if you could bear to open a ticket, that would be 
 most kind.

Done : ticket #1928.


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Re: QtGps for Trolltechs Qtopia

2008-08-30 Thread Jim Morris
Aaron Sowry wrote:

 I get this:
 
 # ./qtgps 
 ./qtgps: error while loading shared libraries: libQtSvg.so.4: cannot
 open shared object file: No such file or directory
 

Are you running Qtopia?
Are you running from the FR console or from an ssh terminal?

If the latter then you need to do this...

  . /opt/Qtopia/env.sh
  ./qtgps

This sets up the environment and in particualy LD_LIBRARY so it can find the 
libraries.

I usually run it from the file manager which you can get from the trolltech 
feed.

Remember you also need gpsd.

  opkg install gpsd




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Re: xfce on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-30 Thread Nathan Kinkade
2008/8/29 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 in xfce-main-menu i need three clicks to open a submenu. someone an
 idea on this?

 i noticed it too -- sometimes even more.
 i somehow think the menu is populated every time it's expanded --
 subsequent submenus expand on first click.

I was apparently having this issue as well.  I'm not 100% sure, but it
seems to have to do with how long I hold the tap.  A quick tap doesn't
always open the submenu, but it never fails to open if I hold the tap
for just little bit longer.  If I hold it for too long the menu opens
then closes.  It seems that there is a sweet-spot in terms of how long
to hold the tap to get the menu to always open properly.

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Re: xfce on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-30 Thread Michele Renda
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Same problem here too. It seem to be the menu need to be clicked to be
opened.
I think it will be good to modify settings to open the menu on mouse
over instead of on mouse click.

I think there is a setting that help on this.

Different seem to be the menu setting, that take some time to open,
because it must be popolated...

Nathan Kinkade wrote:
 2008/8/29 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 in xfce-main-menu i need three clicks to open a submenu. someone an
 idea on this?
 i noticed it too -- sometimes even more.
 i somehow think the menu is populated every time it's expanded --
 subsequent submenus expand on first click.
 
 I was apparently having this issue as well.  I'm not 100% sure, but it
 seems to have to do with how long I hold the tap.  A quick tap doesn't
 always open the submenu, but it never fails to open if I hold the tap
 for just little bit longer.  If I hold it for too long the menu opens
 then closes.  It seems that there is a sweet-spot in terms of how long
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Re: QtGps for Trolltechs Qtopia

2008-08-30 Thread Lorn Potter
Aaron Sowry wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 11:48 -0700, Jim Morris wrote:
 Radek Barton( wrote:
 Do anyone have compiled package for share? Otherwise I would need to make 
 one 
 just to try an application :-). Thanks.

 Yes if you go to the blog, and download the tar file, there is an executable 
 called qtgps, you just 
 copy that to your FR, and run it on the FR.

 http://blog.wolfman.com/articles/2008/08/27/porting-xgps-to-qtopia-for-the-freerunner
 http://blog.wolfman.com/files/qtgps.tar.gz

 
 I get this:
 
 # ./qtgps 
 ./qtgps: error while loading shared libraries: libQtSvg.so.4: cannot
 open shared object file: No such file or directory


do:
source /opt/Qtopia/qpe.env
or
/opt/Nokia/Qtopia/qpe.env before trying to run any Qtopia applications 
from the commandline.



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Re: 2008.8: Enlightenment crashing at bootup after upgrade

2008-08-30 Thread Mikael Berthe
* Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-30 14:06 +0200]:
 Hi all,

Hi,

 I ran into this problem now for the second time. The first time I had 
 installed 2008.8 with zeckes feed. After a some days opkg update  opkg 
 upgrade destroyed my enlightenment installation. At startup it crashes 
 (SIGSEV) leaving me with a MessageBox with options for retrying or exiting. 

I've had the same problem.  I've eventually given up and I reflashed the
FreeRunner too.

I haven't had the problem again (yet)...

 Because of this I decided to re-flash my Neo and installed 2008.8-update 
 (original feeds). The first 2 days everything was working fine. Today I 
 executed an opkg update  opkg upgrade and I'm stuck with the same problem.

Today's opkg upgrade broke all Qtopia-based apps.  Qpe keeps crashing
and I'm getting the same white message box, but asking me if I want to
restart qpe... (which doesn't work, btw)

 I have already tried to reinstall e-wm and illume via opkg -force-reinstall. 
 Didn't fix it...

Raster told me he had pushed a new version to asu.dev but I don't know
if it went to testing or not yet.
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Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-30 Thread Radek Bartoň
Dne Wednesday 27 of August 2008 10:33:25 Marek Lindner napsal(a):
 Hi,

 this merits some more details:
 *) Base Images and repository
We have a base image. It is minimal image plus Window
Manager(e-wm), Om-settings and Om-installer.

 We will shift away from preinstalled phone stack images. Instead, we
 provide a base image which allows you to install your preferred
 applications (GTK/Qtopia/SHR/FSO/etc) and really own your phone.
 Currently, we are in the process of getting this system running smoothly.
 Early adopters / testers / developers are invited to test it. We also
 encourage $your_project to be built by our auto builder and become
 installable on the base image. This should give you the time to focus on
 improving your project instead of building and distributing it.
 The unstable package feed will always contain your latest code, testing
 the version you think is ready for use.


Does this mean that I should use 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ repositories to update 
Trolltech's Qtopia image (qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-rootfs-release-08280107.jffs2) 
from now instead of default ones http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/?

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Re: No suspend since last update

2008-08-30 Thread flamma
 I get the exact same thing. Flashed today's image too. A large 'X' pops up
 and the phone suspends after a few seconds.


I have the same problem. But I have noticed that when I wake up the phone,
it begins with a black screen. If the screen is touched, the desktop is
shown, and then the phone will suspend in few seconds. But if you let the
screen alone, the phone won't suspend and you can work with the phone (ie:
via ssh).


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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 potentially solved

2008-08-30 Thread Jean-Eric Cuendet
 Now you can request a new device for the modem using:
 identvar=$(date +%s)
 dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.pyneo.muxer
 /org/pyneo/Muxer
 org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep
 string | awk -F '' '{ print $2 }'

 It should print something like '/dev/pts/2'. Now use 'minicom -s' and
 set the device under 'serial device' to the value printed by dbus-send.
 Wait for a response to the AT initiation sequence and then type in:
 AT%N0187


Did that. But echo still here...
Could it be that the mic gain is still too high? How to change it?
And when leaving minicom, should I exit with reset or without?
Is it still active after a reboot or should I do that after each reboot?
Thanks.
-jec





 The modem should respond with a message that AEC and Noise reduction is
 now on.

 Call the Neo from another phone where you heard an echo before and see
 if the echo is gone.

 Cheers,
Florian

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-30 Thread Petr Vanek
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:32:40 +0200
Florian Hackenberger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (FH) wrote:

Ok, here comes the patch. It's tiny and it works (just confirmed on my 
Neo). Attached to the trac ticket:
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267

I have installed the new libficgta01vendor.so file but no help, echo
still persists. I got the same error as other people (Not
Downgrading), so manual replacement of the previous
libficgta01vendor.so by the new one was necessary. I have also tweaked
my alsa settings a bit hoping that in a combination this would be
sufficient but it didn't help.

I know i have the right library but do i have to do anything else to
activate the settings? I did reboot the FR.

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Om2008.8 and FSO

2008-08-30 Thread Jean-Eric Cuendet
Hi,
I don't understand why there is 2 distro? Couldn FSO be integrated in Om2008
since it's only libraries?
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FSO - GPSD problem

2008-08-30 Thread rhn
Hi
I'm using the testing branch of FSO and was unable to get GPS working right yet.
The version is 2.34-r9, so I think it's somewhat current.

The first problem was the antenna not seated well (resolved, obviously).
The other problem is that the gpsd itself (?) is behaving odd.
I was trying to troubleshoot using the GPSD FAQ. I found out that

gpsd -D 4 -N /dev/ttySAC1

provides some useful output and I can try to connect to the gpsd via telnet.
Trying that, I noticed that most of the time the connection is accepted but 
stalled... sometimes I get to the GPSD console and the daemon prints:

gpsd: client connect on 6

but usually telnet just prints nothing.
This occurs regardless of the IP I'm using (loopback or ethernet), and port 
(tried 998), dropbear's ssh also can listen properly.

Is there anything I can do to make sure it's not my fault before filing a bug 
report?

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-30 Thread Andre Roth
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:19:20 +0200
Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2008/8/30 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Florian Hackenberger 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Friday 29 August 2008, Florian Hackenberger wrote:
   I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11
 
  Ok, here comes the patch. It's tiny and it works (just confirmed on my
  Neo). Attached to the trac ticket:
  https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267
 
  Does this apply only to GTA01?  I am getting a Not Downgrading message
  when I try to install it on GTA02.  Further, what is the .patch file for?
 
 I also get the same error, on om 2008.08 update

install it with the option: --force-downgrade

example:
opkg --force-downgrade install
qtopia-phone-x11-phonevendor-ficgta01vendor_4.3.2\+git2\+13101ab6ddaec380871ae8021a92140af526c4df-r38.05_om-gta02.opk

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Re: Om2008.8 and FSO

2008-08-30 Thread Richy
From: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO

This distribution will be merged with the 2008.8 distribution (or its
successor) when the system is stable enough. For more information see
http://www.freesmartphone.org and http://trac.freesmartphone.org . 

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alsa-mixer settings - how to setup best?

2008-08-30 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin

can someone explain what the various switches/controllers found in  
alsa-mixer are for / how they have to be set for various use-cases .. ?

i for now am a little bit confused by the high number of possible  
settings .. which do i really need? which can be safely masked?

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GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-30 Thread Jim Morris
I am still trying to get a bluetooth headset to work with the GTA02.

I found on the Wiki a pointer to this state file

http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state

however it is gta01 specific, and around control 51, all the control numbers 
change as gta02 seems 
to have an additional control there.

So I am slowly going through all the controls from 51 onwards and trying to see 
what changed between 
gta01 and gta02.

Hopefully at the end I will have a gsmbluetooth.state file that will work with 
gta02.

If someone else has already done this please let me know, as this will be 
pretty tedious.

Thanks
Jim

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Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-30 Thread Jim Morris
Jim Morris wrote:
 I am still trying to get a bluetooth headset to work with the GTA02.
 
 I found on the Wiki a pointer to this state file
 
 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state
 
 however it is gta01 specific, and around control 51, all the control numbers 
 change as gta02 seems 
 to have an additional control there.
 
 So I am slowly going through all the controls from 51 onwards and trying to 
 see what changed between 
 gta01 and gta02.
 

By going through line by line I see the differences that the old gta01 state 
files had between bt 
and headset states, so fixing them up in a newer gta02 state file was ok until 
gta01 control 87 
upwards. None of these controls appear in a gta02 state file, so there seems to 
be no equivalent 
settings. Especially control 90, which seems pretty important for bluetooth but 
has no equivalent in 
the gt02 state file.

So can someone please explain what is going on here? Thanks

Here are the gta01 controls that do not fit into gta02 state files...

control.87 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Amp Right Playback Volume'
value 0
}
control.88 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Amp Mono Playback Volume'
value 0
}
control.89 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 Off
comment.item.1 'Call Speaker'
comment.item.2 'Stereo Speakers'
comment.item.3 'Stereo Speakers + Headphones'
comment.item.4 Headphones
iface MIXER
name 'Amp Mode'
value Off
}
control.90 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 Off
comment.item.1 'GSM Handset'
comment.item.2 'GSM Headset'
comment.item.3 'GSM Bluetooth'
comment.item.4 Speakers
comment.item.5 Headphones
comment.item.6 'Capture Handset'
comment.item.7 'Capture Headset'
comment.item.8 'Capture Bluetooth'
iface MIXER
name 'Neo Mode'
value 'GSM Bluetooth'
}
control.91 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Amp Spk 3D Playback Switch'
value false
}
control.92 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Amp HP 3d Playback Switch'
value false
}
control.93 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Amp Fast Wakeup Playback Switch'
value false
}
control.94 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Amp Earpiece 6dB Playback Switch'
value false
}

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Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-30 Thread Jim Morris
Jim Morris wrote:
 Jim Morris wrote:
 I am still trying to get a bluetooth headset to work with the GTA02.

 I found on the Wiki a pointer to this state file

 http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com/~gg/neo1973/gsmbluetooth.state

 however it is gta01 specific, and around control 51, all the control numbers 
 change as gta02 seems 
 to have an additional control there.

 So I am slowly going through all the controls from 51 onwards and trying to 
 see what changed between 
 gta01 and gta02.

 
 By going through line by line I see the differences that the old gta01 state 
 files had between bt 
 and headset states, so fixing them up in a newer gta02 state file was ok 
 until gta01 control 87 
 upwards. None of these controls appear in a gta02 state file, so there seems 
 to be no equivalent 
 settings. Especially control 90, which seems pretty important for bluetooth 
 but has no equivalent in 
 the gt02 state file.
 


One thing that may help, is if someone could provide a mapping of the wolfson 
registers as 
documented in the WM8753L pdf to the alsa controls. Someone had to have written 
the code that 
twiddles the registers in that chip, and would know which also control matches 
which register.

I looked at the obvious choice which would be a 1:1 mapping of also control 
number to register 
number, but that doesn't match even closely.




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Re: saving and restoring GPS data for U-blox chip quicker startup

2008-08-30 Thread Vasco Névoa
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 There is at least two that I know of, some ruby script:
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/browser/developers/alphaone/u-blox

 And some python script in the FSO framwork. Look 
 framework/subsystems/ogpsd/
   
Cool. What's the requirements to get alphaone's ruby scripts working in 
OM2008.8?
Aside from opkg install ruby...
 I'd like to see the freerunner's GPS do the same any other GPS device
 does: save the almanac/ephemeris data to storage upon shutdown and
 restore it upon powerup.
 Right. I just receive my freerunner today. So I may start my own plan 
 this week :-)

   
Excellent. :)
 So, I took the protocol datasheet
 (http://www.u-blox.com/customersupport/gps.g3/ANTARIS_Protocol_Specification(GPS.G3-X-03002).chm)
 and tried to coerce the chip into vomiting the stored information (we
 should take care to do it after working for at least 2 or 3 minutes with
 a good reception level).
 

 A better solution would be to just configure the Ublox to send the 
 ephemerises and almanacs as soon as they are received. 
I didn't know that was even possible... great!
 A simple daemon 
 would watch for these messages and store them appropriately when they 
 are received.

   
Makes sense.
 Yes. The FSO is capable of doing that AFAIU. I have some code that do 
 that in C++ already, I'll publish them as soon as I port them to the FR. 
 My code will be able to read and decode a number of messages, including 
 raw data (pseudorange measurements).

   
Wonderful. Just make sure you're not duplicating efforts with someone 
else... :)
 2 - a simple hook into the UI gps on/off button script, forcing process
 (1) to ask for info and store it on file upon gps shutdown, and to
 rewrite that info into the chip on startup.
 

 I don't think we need any manual intervention here. The above described 
 daemon should just be reading only the device. Another program should be 
 responsible of writting the aid data as soon as the GPS is started. 
 Ideally this program could also be able to write manually encoded 
 messages based on commonly used formats for ephemerises (RINEX) and 
 almanacs (Yuma).

   
 Who's working on this? I'd happily beta-test it.
 

 I will, hopefully in the coming weeks :-)

   
Fine. Keep us posted!
 Abdel.

   


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Re: saving and restoring GPS data for U-blox chip quicker startup

2008-08-30 Thread Vasco Névoa
digger vermont wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 10:59 +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
   
 There is at least two that I know of, some ruby script:
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/browser/developers/alphaone/u-blox

 And some python script in the FSO framwork. Look 
 framework/subsystems/ogpsd/
 

 I just looked.  It's in ubx.py.   There was also recently a warmstart
 patch committed.

 digger

   
Nice! but that patch you mention is for FSO only, right? No ASU benefits 
there...


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Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-30 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
Jim Morris escreveu:
 One thing that may help, is if someone could provide a mapping of the wolfson 
 registers as 
 documented in the WM8753L pdf to the alsa controls. Someone had to have 
 written the code that 
 twiddles the registers in that chip, and would know which also control 
 matches which register.

That would be sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c and 
sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c on the kernel source code. Take 
a look:

http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c;hb=stable
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c;hb=stable

The mapping is there, you only have to find out how it's described.

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-30 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| On Friday 29 August 2008, Florian Hackenberger wrote:
| I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11
|
| Ok, here comes the patch. It's tiny and it works (just confirmed on my
| Neo). Attached to the trac ticket:

// enable Acoustic Echo Cancellation and Noise Reduction
~service()-retryChat( AT%N0187 );

Wah... nice work.

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scummvom on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-30 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin

someone got scummvm on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to run?

trying to start, process seems to run, but nothing happens - no  
window, no error .. nothing

would love to hear some ideas on this .. playing monkey island again  
on fr would rock!

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Re: RFC: delete page USB

2008-08-30 Thread Paul Jimenez
Don't delete it; someone will recreate it.  Make it a redirect to the 
Category:USB page.

Fredrik Wendt wrote:
 lör 2008-08-30 klockan 00:29 -0700 skrev Michael Shiloh:
   
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB
 

 My comment: Just go ahead! :)

 / Fredrik
   
 

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Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-30 Thread Jim Morris
Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:
 Jim Morris escreveu:
 One thing that may help, is if someone could provide a mapping of the 
 wolfson registers as documented in the WM8753L pdf to the alsa 
 controls. Someone had to have written the code that twiddles the 
 registers in that chip, and would know which also control matches 
 which register.
 
 That would be sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c and 
 sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c on the kernel source code. Take 
 a look:
 
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c;hb=stable
  
 
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c;hb=stable
  
 
 
 The mapping is there, you only have to find out how it's described.
 

Thanks for the pointers. Thats 2,000 lines of code that is about as clear as 
mud! (and I've written 
audio drivers before).

There is no mention of Bluetooth in these drivers, and no indication how to 
switch into bluetooth mode.

Obviously gta01 was very different, and it is not even clear that the 
gsmbluetooth.state even worked 
on a gta01, at least I've never seen any gta01 user claim they had it working.

I really don't see how we are supposed to figure this stuff out, without any 
help from Openmoko. 
This is a core piece of functionality for a GSM phone guys! Especially in a 
state where handsfree 
devices are required whilst driving.

I would appreciate a little help from Openmoko to provide a working example of 
routing the audio 
to/from a BT headset during a call. I think they may need some help from 
Wolfson to figure it out!

As I said there seem to be no equivalent functions in gta02's alsa settings to 
match the ones in 
gta01 that were used to switch into BT mode.


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Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-30 Thread Stroller

On 30 Aug 2008, at 05:34, Rod Whitby wrote:

 Stroller wrote:
 I thought the standard now was unlimited data plans.
 ...
 You have my sympathies if you're not on an unlimited data plan, Ole,
 but I would see unlimited data use as the long-term expectation of
 OpenMoko projects.

 Please don't assume that everyone has unlimited data plans.

Please don't assume probably won't prevent developers from doing so.

It would probably be better to educate readers about WHY we shouldn't  
assume data transfer via GPRS to be massively cheap  affordable.

Where are you?
Are unlimited data plans completely unavailable there? Or just  
expensive?
How much does data transfer cost there? (comparison of data cost  
relative to calls?)
Why is this? A teleco monopoly?
Why is the situation unlikely to change in the foreseeable?


 It is not
 as common in many parts of the world as it is in your part of the  
 world.

Great, so enlighten me. Saying please don't assume that everyone has  
unlimited data plans just makes me think, oooh, look! here's  
someone as cantankerous as I. If you want me to REMEMBER you when  
developing my hypothetical ultimate mail client then tell me  
something memorable about data plans in your country.

As the son of Lancastrian blood, I can sympathise with  
parsimoniousness, but right now Ole's suggestion appears penny- 
pinching to me, rather than practical  prudent economising.  
Enlighten me otherwise! I always wish to be educated.

 I expect the IMAP client on my openmoko phone to be able to  
 download all
 my email for offline reading, deleting, and replying on the bus with
 *no* internet connectivity, and then sync all those changes seamlessly
 to the server as soon as I get the next internet connection.

I expect that, too. Certainly under my data plan this would be  
essential for foreign holidays.

 ... Assuming an always-on connection (as
 opposed to just taking advantage of one when it is available) is a
 backwards step.

Or insightful and simple forward thinkingness, depending upon your  
worldview.

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Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-30 Thread Stroller

On 30 Aug 2008, at 11:52, Ole Kliemann wrote:
 ...
 I expect the IMAP client on my openmoko phone to be able to  
 download all
 my email for offline reading, deleting, and replying on the bus with
 *no* internet connectivity, and then sync all those changes  
 seamlessly
 to the server as soon as I get the next internet connection.

 This sounds like a reasonable way to handle it.

 But the email traffic I have to handle on the road is really rather  
 low
 volume. My idea of VoIP notification certainly isn't very useful for
 someone who gets several mails an hour. In this case IMAP-idle or with
 interval checking is probably better. I was more looking for a way to
 pass signals to my mobile without having to pay for it.

I meant to ask in my previous email:

Anyone know what is the overhead of IMAP-idle?
(or however interval checking on IMAP works?)

Let's I have 50kb of email per day in one email account, 120kb in  
another. 500kb in another, if you like. How much would it cost (in  
kb) firstly just to download that over GPRS, and secondly to check  
for mail every X minutes through the day.

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Re: RFC: delete page USB

2008-08-30 Thread Stroller

On 30 Aug 2008, at 08:29, Michael Shiloh wrote:

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB

 Minimal information is amply duplicated elsewhere, and the list of USB
 related pages is exactly what the USB category shows.

Redirect it to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:USB ?
It took me a couple of clicks to find that page, and the OpenMoko  
wiki is not so fast loading here, hampering searching.

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