Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Kluge
   At the risk ob beeing called a parrot I want to ask the same 
question again:
   Is anyone able to build a 2008.08 image with Mokomakefile?

 Yes, I am building all of the images.

Which branch from asu? dev? stable?

  It is slow. The first time you have to start the make over and over 
again until your are done...
  But thats all in the wiki page. So you might need a day or two.

I is not a question how long it takes. For me a couple of packages are 
broken in asu.stable. At least pixman and xtrans (or something like 
this) do not compile.

  Do not use the parallel modus. It only breaks the make earlier.

It worked well for me for the 2007.04 stack.


Michael

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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-31 Thread Stroller

On 30 Aug 2008, at 14:26, Valerio Valerio wrote:
 ...
 I have only one bluetooth enabled device nearby: my ps3.  I go to  
 manage bluetooth devices and let it scan and then I start   
 remoko. It never finds the phone, while it does find the carkit  
 of my  mother when she parks right outside.  What do I need to do  
 to make it work?  (if you need some more info, just ask and I'll  
 happily provide it)

 Update:
 It now shows the BlueZ (0) device
 but when I select register on my PS3 i get:
 An error occurred during the register operation. Try to register
 again. (80010009)


 This happens because the PS3 is trying to register a special  
 service record, the ReMoko app have a standard keyboard and mouse  
 combo service record. Do you know if is possible to use a standard  
 bluetooth keyboard in the PS3 ? I only know that is possible to use  
 some special bluetooth keyboard, that only work in the PS3.

 The PS3 and the WII have a custom Bluetooth HID profile, so the  
 standard bluetooth mouse's and keyboard's are not expected to work  
 in the consoles.

I don't have a bluetooth keyboard or mouse here to test, but  
allegedly support for them was added in the 1.6 update some time ago  
(PS3 is now at firmware 2.1 or so). I can't, however, find any  
confirmation that these devices (with a standard HID) work with the  
PS3 - perhaps one or two forum posts saying this keyboard works ok,  
but there appears to have been at least one designed-for-PS3 keyboard  
released (by Logitech, and it was in development before 1.6).

Rest assured that there is absolutely no chance of a dangerous  
equipment malfunction prior to your victory candescence.

Stroller.


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Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-31 Thread Lorn Potter
Jim Morris wrote:
 Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:
 Jim Morris escreveu:
 One thing that may help, is if someone could provide a mapping of the 
 wolfson registers as documented in the WM8753L pdf to the alsa 
 controls. Someone had to have written the code that twiddles the 
 registers in that chip, and would know which also control matches 
 which register.
 That would be sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c and 
 sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c on the kernel source code. Take 
 a look:

 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c;hb=stable
  

 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c;hb=stable
  


 The mapping is there, you only have to find out how it's described.

 
 Thanks for the pointers. Thats 2,000 lines of code that is about as clear as 
 mud! (and I've written 
 audio drivers before).
 
 There is no mention of Bluetooth in these drivers, and no indication how to 
 switch into bluetooth mode.
 
 Obviously gta01 was very different, and it is not even clear that the 
 gsmbluetooth.state even worked 
 on a gta01, at least I've never seen any gta01 user claim they had it working.

bluetooth audio on the gta01 will never work, even with that bluetooth 
alsa state.



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Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company

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Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-31 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Jim,

Just wanted to say that your efforts on making bluetooth headsets usable
is highly appreciated!

A question: I guess you're trying to route the GSM audio to bluetooth,
is this right or are you looking at routing generic audio (from mplayer)
to bluetooth? Will you also be able to choose between SCO A2DP then in
anyway? (obviously A2DP won't make it for GSM phone calls - unless
you're the silent type)

Thanks again,

Fredrik


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Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-31 Thread Jim Morris
Fredrik Wendt wrote:
 Jim,
 
 Just wanted to say that your efforts on making bluetooth headsets usable
 is highly appreciated!
 
 A question: I guess you're trying to route the GSM audio to bluetooth,
 is this right or are you looking at routing generic audio (from mplayer)
 to bluetooth? Will you also be able to choose between SCO A2DP then in
 anyway? (obviously A2DP won't make it for GSM phone calls - unless
 you're the silent type)
 


I'm just trying to get the BT to GSM path and GSM to BT path in the chip to 
work.

A2DP for stereo (CPU to BT) is a different path, and apparently people have 
been able to get that to 
work, although with mixed results. Check the Wiki for a recipe to make that 
work.



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Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-31 Thread Jim Morris
Lorn Potter wrote:
 
 bluetooth audio on the gta01 will never work, even with that bluetooth 
 alsa state.
 

Ok so where did that gsmbluetooth.state come from and why did someone do it if 
it never worked?

Unfortunately I was only partially able to generate a gta02 version of the 
state file, as many of 
the controls have no equivalent in gta02.

I guess I should try what I have it may work. I'll report back.

Then the question for you is if it does work, how do we get Qtopia to load the 
state file 
automatically on a gsm call when BT is enabled?


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Re: contacts: lookup on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread roguemoko
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 01:46:48PM +0100, Tom Yates wrote:
   
 using ASU (specifically, 20080826-asu-stable-uImage.bin and
 20080827-asu-stable-rootfs.jffs2) i have a contacts database full of 
 friends, imported via vcard, in which almost all the phone numbers are in 
 internationally-qualified form (eg fred friend, +44 7971 123456).  that 
 way, i can dial them whatever country i happen to be in.

 but when i'm in the UK, and a UK call comes in, it shows up as just having 
 a local number (eg 07971 123456).

 these two numbers are functionally the same, but the contacts-lookup that 
 happens won't identify the caller as fred friend unless i edit the 
 contacts entry to say 07971... rather than +447971... .
 

 Simple matching algorithm: match from right to left to numbers on
 agenda.

 Rui
   

Prepend call notification with 'likely to be ...' in the case of 
anything but an exact match.

I think it's best to keep it realistic, in that we can only match what 
we know. Unless you can harvest a country code from the network 
registration to figure out the prefix of numbers displayed in a 'local' 
format.

I'm on the Vodafone network too and store all my numbers in 
international, so don't actually have the problem but I've seen it on 
plenty of other providers.

I guess the only assumption you could really make is that anything 
without a prefix is local ... and therefore should be matched to the 
prefix of the registered network ... or user configurable? A basic 
configurable regex maybe ... so as not to exclude people who get odd 
local prefixes ... though there's probably a limited set that get 
applied globally.

Sarton

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Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-31 Thread Jim Morris

Lorn Potter wrote:

Jim Morris wrote:

Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:

Jim Morris escreveu:
One thing that may help, is if someone could provide a mapping of 
the wolfson registers as documented in the WM8753L pdf to the alsa 
controls. Someone had to have written the code that twiddles the 
registers in that chip, and would know which also control matches 
which register.
That would be sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c and 
sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c on the kernel source code. 
Take a look:


http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c;hb=stable 

http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c;hb=stable 



The mapping is there, you only have to find out how it's described.



Thanks for the pointers. Thats 2,000 lines of code that is about as 
clear as mud! (and I've written audio drivers before).


There is no mention of Bluetooth in these drivers, and no indication 
how to switch into bluetooth mode.


Obviously gta01 was very different, and it is not even clear that the 
gsmbluetooth.state even worked on a gta01, at least I've never seen 
any gta01 user claim they had it working.


bluetooth audio on the gta01 will never work, even with that bluetooth 
alsa state.






Ok well it didn't work, attached is the gsmbluetooth.state file I am trying to use if anyone is 
interested and wants to try it. I set this as best I could from comparing the differences between 
the gsmhandset.state and gsmheadset.state for the gta01 and transcribing to gta02 as best as 
possible given the undocumented differences between the two.


After calling the cell phone I did an alsactl -f gsmbluetooth.state restore.

In the process I just discovered the Qtopia (this is for you Lorn ;) did not load 
/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state when the call was answered, I had to do it manually, 
I'm pretty sure this is a regression.


Also the options available in the menu when in a call to set speakerphone handset or bluetooth do 
not seem to do anything.


I'm pretty much out of ideas on how to get a working gsmbluetooth.state file for gta02, so someone 
else chime in if you think of anything.


I see this as a show stopper for the unit being usable as a phone so if anyone at OM cares I'd get 
on it ASAP.


--
Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com
state.neo1973gta02 {
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comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
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comment.range '0 - 255'
iface MIXER
name 'PCM Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
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comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 255'
iface MIXER
name 'ADC Capture Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.3 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
value.0 96
value.1 96
}
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
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comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 127'
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name 'Mono Playback Volume'
value 103
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comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
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name 'Bypass Playback Volume'
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comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Sidetone Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
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comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Voice Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
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comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback ZC 

Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-31 Thread Yorick Moko
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Stroller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't have a bluetooth keyboard or mouse here to test, but
 allegedly support for them was added in the 1.6 update some time ago
 (PS3 is now at firmware 2.1 or so). I can't, however, find any
 confirmation that these devices (with a standard HID) work with the
 PS3 - perhaps one or two forum posts saying this keyboard works ok,
 but there appears to have been at least one designed-for-PS3 keyboard
 released (by Logitech, and it was in development before 1.6).

Thanks for the responses.
I'm gonna try my luck at connecting the controller over bluetooth
again (but I always run into errors while trying to compile the
patch..)
y

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Re: contacts: lookup on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 05:33:00PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 01:46:48PM +0100, Tom Yates wrote:
  but when i'm in the UK, and a UK call comes in, it shows up as just having 
  a local number (eg 07971 123456).
 
  these two numbers are functionally the same, but the contacts-lookup that 
  happens won't identify the caller as fred friend unless i edit the 
  contacts entry to say 07971... rather than +447971... .
 
  Simple matching algorithm: match from right to left to numbers on
  agenda.
 
 Prepend call notification with 'likely to be ...' in the case of 
 anything but an exact match.

I find it very hard that in the extremely small database of contacts on
your phone (it's tiny in terms of databases) that you'll have a fuzzy
match.

Specially, because you'll have a big number match.

Comparing phone numbers when you have optional data to the left means
you gotta do the comparison from the right :)

Rui

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Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-31 Thread Dietmar Friede
On Sunday 31 August 2008, Michael Kluge wrote:

 Which branch from asu? dev? stable?
All 3: stable, testing and dev
( org.openmoko.asu.stable, org.openmoko.asu.testing, org.openmoko.asu.dev)

 I is not a question how long it takes. For me a couple of packages are
 broken in asu.stable. At least pixman and xtrans (or something like
 this) do not compile.
Did you try again?:
make setup  make update  make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image
Did you look through the error messages?
Did you try to fix the problems?

Did you follow the Build issues part of the page?
Be aware that you overwrite your changes in Makefile, when making
make update-makefile .

What are the error messages?

 It worked well for me for the 2007.04 stack.
If you miss a source (i.e not able to connect) copy it from 2007.04,
Load it from one of the source repositories on openmoko or oe.

MfG

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Re: saving and restoring GPS data for U-blox chip quicker startup

2008-08-31 Thread Fabian Henze
On Saturday 30 August 2008 at 10:59:29, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 A better solution would be to just configure the Ublox to send the
 ephemerises and almanacs as soon as they are received. A simple daemon
 would watch for these messages and store them appropriately when they
 are received.

Why would this be a better solution? I dont see any benefits over the save on 
gpsd exit or save on 'gps off' in settings menu method, except that just 
another daemon steals CPU time and consumes RAM.

Fabian

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread hb
Le dimanche 31 août 2008 à 10:53 +0900, Andy Green a écrit :
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 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | On Friday 29 August 2008, Florian Hackenberger wrote:
 | I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11
 |
 | Ok, here comes the patch. It's tiny and it works (just confirmed on my
 | Neo). Attached to the trac ticket:


FYI, I installed it (with -force), but it doesn't work here...

Can I test something ?

 
 // enable Acoustic Echo Cancellation and Noise Reduction
 ~service()-retryChat( AT%N0187 );
 
 Wah... nice work.
 
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gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?

2008-08-31 Thread Tom Yates
i've pretty much got this working under 2008.08, following various wiki 
and other writeups, for which many thanks to the authors.

my writeup's at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#GPRS , 
if anyone's interested; i went for with GSM multiplexing but without a 
GUI.

i can make a GPRS connection.  when it's up, i can place a call, and the 
outgoing GPRS connection temporarily suspends.  when it's up, incoming 
calls go straight to voicemail; the phone doesn't even give me the choice 
of accepting the call.

my understanding from the wiki was that GSM multiplexing allows both a 
GPRS connection and a phone call to be handled at the same time.  so i'd 
sort of assumed that i could still take an incoming call, even if that 
would temporarily suspend the GPRS connection.

so: have i misunderstood completely?  is the MUXing simply about sharing 
access to the modem, rather than the line (ie, connection between modem 
and network) as well?  or should i be able to take an incoming call while 
the GPRS is up?  and if so, should the GPRS suspend while i do, or should 
i be able to run them both simultaneously?

before i start trying to find out *how* to configure pppd to do what i 
want, i'd like to know if the phone is capable of it!  i'd very much 
appreciate any ideas or insights anyone has on this.


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Re: Om2008.8 and FSO

2008-08-31 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz

On 8/31/08 enaut wrote:
 Richy schrieb:
   From: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO
  
   This distribution will be merged with the 2008.8 distribution 
 (or its
   successor) when the system is stable enough. For more information 
 see
   http://www.freesmartphone.org and http://trac.freesmartphone.org 
 . 
 
 I think one of the moko team mentioned that they will not be merged...

No this is totally not the case. In fact, FSO isn't even a distribution. 
Let me quote Mickey:

   In practice, this means once the framework has reached a certain
   extent (see http://trac.freesmartphone.org for our tasks, issues, and
   milestones), we can expect it to be seen in all kinds of products,
   likely including further releases of the ASU.

It's the framework / middleware project that will provide the foundation 
for future Om releases (probably the first will be 2009).

FSO is also, BTW, designed to be generic enough to be used for more than 
just Om. But make no mistake, future versions of Om will use this 
framework. We've invested lots of time and money into it.

   -Sean

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Re: saving and restoring GPS data for U-blox chip quicker startup

2008-08-31 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Fabian Henze wrote:
 On Saturday 30 August 2008 at 10:59:29, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 A better solution would be to just configure the Ublox to send the
 ephemerises and almanacs as soon as they are received. A simple daemon
 would watch for these messages and store them appropriately when they
 are received.

 Why would this be a better solution?

Because it is safer and cleaner to save things as soon as they are received.

 I dont see any benefits over the save on
 gpsd exit or save on 'gps off' in settings menu method, except that just
 another daemon steals CPU time and consumes RAM.

Of course such solution should be integrated in an already running gps 
daemon. gpsd already decodes some messages, it could be improved to 
retrieve and save those additional aid messages. No more RAM would be 
needed. I don't plan to use gpsd so my solution would be a replacement 
for it. Such daemon shouldn't consume more than one megabyte of RAM, 
actually I would say much less than a megabyte.

Abdel.


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Re: Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop

2008-08-31 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin

same here - i put freerunner to sleep ('apm -s') when i myself went  
to bed about 7h ago.
i had to remove/reinsert the battery and insert wall-charger to wake  
fr up again.
(kernel from 2008/08/27)

regards, morlac

Am 28.08.2008 um 21:07 schrieb arne anka:

 is there any difference ?

 afaik only insofar as frameworkd sedates the modem before calling.
 re the draining: there _has_ to be a change in the latest updates.
 i tried to resume my fr a few minutes ago -- and it was stone dead!
 after putting on usb and a second, successful attempt (into 2007.2  
 since
 it is the default) amp said the battery was at 0%!! after only  
 about 13h
 and most of the time suspended.

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Re: QTopia 4.3.2 resume on incomming SMS bug

2008-08-31 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Daniel Selinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The only thing i recognized is, when receiving an sms while in
 suspend, the phone resumes, but doesn't notify me about an incoming
 sms, and when i go to the messaging app, there is nothing new in the
 inbox. In fact i know 'something' arrived, because the phone woke up
 from suspend.
 
 All messages which were received during suspend 'arrive' when the
 first sms comes in while the phone is awake.
 
 Sent 3 sms during suspend (always waited between until the phone
 suspended again), no alert. Wake the phone up manually, no alert.
 Send the first sms while awake. Phone alerts me that i have received 4
 new sms messages.
 
 Maybe someone can tell me where to report bugs in the QTopia image.

this sounds awully like:

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1792

hope this helps.

clemens

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Re: Om2008.8 and FSO

2008-08-31 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Sean wrote:
 FSO is also, BTW, designed to be generic enough to be used for more than 
 just Om. But make no mistake, future versions of Om will use this 
 framework. We've invested lots of time and money into it.

And we're so happy that you have, it's just great and lots of fun to
play with. Keep it up!

/ Fredrik


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debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin

i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall  
debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup  
sofar .. darn!

my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste

greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base

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Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Kluge

  Which branch from asu? dev? stable?
 All 3: stable, testing and dev
 ( org.openmoko.asu.stable, org.openmoko.asu.testing, 
 org.openmoko.asu.dev)

OK. Cool. Then there is hope for me.

 Did you try again?:

Not a completely fresh setup. I'll give this a try.

 make setup  make update  make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image
 Did you look through the error messages?

Yes. Compiling pixman breaks with an unresolved symbol 
pixman...something. There was a message about this on devel on Aug. 
13  and the answer was like please wait 1 or 2 weeks, sources will be 
fixed until then.

 Did you try to fix the problems?

Not yet. Still try to figure out if this is a general or just my own 
problem.

 Did you follow the Build issues part of the page?

Yes. make clean-package-pixman and rebuilding it does not solve the 
problem.



Michael

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Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread Ole Kliemann
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 06:37:05AM +0100, Stroller wrote:
 As the son of Lancastrian blood, I can sympathise with  
 parsimoniousness, but right now Ole's suggestion appears penny- 
 pinching to me, rather than practical  prudent economising.  

Are you by any chance associated with a VoIP company and afraid of
people making no-connect/no-cost calls all the time? ;-)

I am just exploring the range of possibilities. Whether they are
practical or hypothetical.

Probably you are right in this case. But it is still an interesting
point that you can by this way send signals to your mobile. Especially
since you can alter the number the caller is transmitting thus enabling
for a nearly unlimited number of signals.

Ole


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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Fox Mulder
Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when
suspending/resuming?

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin
 
 i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall  
 debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup  
 sofar .. darn!
 
 my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste
 
 greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base
 
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Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread Yorick Moko
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Ole Kliemann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 06:37:05AM +0100, Stroller wrote:
 As the son of Lancastrian blood, I can sympathise with
 parsimoniousness, but right now Ole's suggestion appears penny-
 pinching to me, rather than practical  prudent economising.

an even better idea:
why not send SMS through VOIP in morse code: 1 ring is SHORT and 2
rings is LONG
:P

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Re: scummvom on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-31 Thread Fox Mulder
I got scummvm running, but it is not usable at all because the screen
rotation doesn't work on-the-fly right now with xfce.
So the window is much too wide and i can't see the buttons at the right
end. :/

Ciao,
Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin
 
 someone got scummvm on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to run?
 
 trying to start, process seems to run, but nothing happens - no  
 window, no error .. nothing
 
 would love to hear some ideas on this .. playing monkey island again  
 on fr would rock!
 
 regards, morlac
 
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Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++;
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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Christian Adams
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i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never  
again ..

regards, morlac

Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder:

 Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when
 suspending/resuming?

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin

 i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall
 debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup
 sofar .. darn!

 my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste

 greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base


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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 30 August 2008, Valerio Valerio wrote:
 This happens because the PS3 is trying to register a special service
 record, the ReMoko app have a standard keyboard and mouse combo service
 record. Do you know if is possible to use a standard bluetooth keyboard in
 the PS3 ? I only know that is possible to use some special bluetooth
 keyboard, that only work in the PS3.

I've used my Stowaway bluetooth keyboard with a friend's PS3 as well as my 
Freerunner. It's a standard bluetooth HID that's been around for longer than 
the PS3, so I don't imagine there's anything special in there for PS3 
support.


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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Fox Mulder
When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds floating
in this mailinglist?

I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom
scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates the
sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend.
Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for
them. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
 i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never  
 again ..
 
 regards, morlac
 
 Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 
 Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when
 suspending/resuming?
 
 Ciao,
  Rainer
 
 Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin

 i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall
 debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup
 sofar .. darn!

 my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste

 greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base

 
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Re: scummvom on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-31 Thread Christian Adams
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.. could you tell us - who did not succeed in this yet - how you got  
it running? ;)

regards, morlac

Am 31.08.2008 um 12:00 schrieb Fox Mulder:

 I got scummvm running, but it is not usable at all because the screen
 rotation doesn't work on-the-fly right now with xfce.
 So the window is much too wide and i can't see the buttons at the  
 right
 end. :/

 Ciao,
 Rainer

 Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin

 someone got scummvm on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to run?

 trying to start, process seems to run, but nothing happens - no
 window, no error .. nothing

 would love to hear some ideas on this .. playing monkey island again
 on fr would rock!

 regards, morlac
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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Christian Adams
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i already found a workaround - running at least for me - for suspend/ 
resume
- - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Suspend -
but i wanted to be sure disabling service apmd is really required

regards, morlac

Am 31.08.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder:

 When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds  
 floating
 in this mailinglist?

 I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom
 scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates  
 the
 sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend.
 Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for
 them. :)

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Christian Adams wrote:
 i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never
 again ..

 regards, morlac

 Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder:

 Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when
 suspending/resuming?

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin

 i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall
 debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no  
 backup
 sofar .. darn!

 my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste

 greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base


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Re: scummvom on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-08-31 Thread Fox Mulder
I did nothing special. I just installed the version in the debian
repositories (scummvm_0.11.1-1_armel.deb) with all dependencies (which
were solved automatically when installing).
After that i can start it without problems, except the screen rotation
problem.
I tested to change the layout back to classic (with config file entry)
which makes more buttons visible but not all. :/

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
 .. could you tell us - who did not succeed in this yet - how you got  
 it running? ;)
 
 regards, morlac
 
 Am 31.08.2008 um 12:00 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 
 I got scummvm running, but it is not usable at all because the screen
 rotation doesn't work on-the-fly right now with xfce.
 So the window is much too wide and i can't see the buttons at the  
 right
 end. :/
 
 Ciao,
 Rainer
 
 Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin

 someone got scummvm on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to run?

 trying to start, process seems to run, but nothing happens - no
 window, no error .. nothing

 would love to hear some ideas on this .. playing monkey island again
 on fr would rock!

 regards, morlac

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Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread Ole Kliemann
With my prepaid I have to pay traffic for every 10kb at 24ct/mb.

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 06:44:31AM +0100, Stroller wrote:
 I meant to ask in my previous email:
 Anyone know what is the overhead of IMAP-idle?

Probably very low as long as the connection is stable. Every reconnect
due to connection loss will cost 10kb. This won't happen so frequently -
let's say in average every 30 minutes. This will be about 3.5 euro per
month with my card. Pretty cheap indeed.

Just one issue. Right now muxing does not work with 2008.8. Another
issue: even when muxing will work in the future, I don't know whether my
provider supports both a voice and a data channel open.

 (or however interval checking on IMAP works?)

With interval checking I assume the traffic per check not more than
10kb. If you check every 5 minutes - which is not what I call `immediate
notification' - it will cost 20 euro per month. Just for the checking.
o_0

If you want to get closer to `immediate notification' and check every 3
minutes, costs go up to 35 euro a month.


So if I get IMAP-idle working in a stable way and with muxing, it's the
thing to go with. Interval checking is no choice at all.

Ole


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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread Søren Kristiansen



HansV wrote:
 
 
 
 Thomas Bertani wrote:
 
 I also get the same error, on om 2008.08 update
 
 
 I get following message when trying with opkg: invalid magic.
 
 How are we supposed to install it?
 

The invalid magic error message is usually caused by a corrupted package.
Did you just copy-paste the link from the bugtracker (the attachment)? The
link shown on the page leads to a preview page which isn't the actual
package. Click the link in a browser and you'll get to a page where this
link is shown: 
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/1267/qtopia-phone-x11-phonevendor-ficgta01vendor_4.3.2%2Bgit2%2B13101ab6ddaec380871ae8021a92140af526c4df-r38.05_om-gta02.opk

FYI the patch didn't really do much for me. The person I called said it was
a slightly better (his voice wasn't as loud as the last time i called him
(before applying it) but it was still very loud). I did restart it before
trying.
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Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread Ole Kliemann
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:30:23PM +, Ole Kliemann wrote:
 With my prepaid I have to pay traffic for every 10kb at 24ct/mb.
 
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 06:44:31AM +0100, Stroller wrote:
  I meant to ask in my previous email:
  Anyone know what is the overhead of IMAP-idle?
 
 Probably very low as long as the connection is stable. Every reconnect
 due to connection loss will cost 10kb. This won't happen so frequently -
 let's say in average every 30 minutes. This will be about 3.5 euro per
 month with my card. Pretty cheap indeed.
 
 Just one issue. Right now muxing does not work with 2008.8. Another
 issue: even when muxing will work in the future, I don't know whether my
 provider supports both a voice and a data channel open.
 
  (or however interval checking on IMAP works?)
 
 With interval checking I assume the traffic per check not more than
 10kb. If you check every 5 minutes - which is not what I call `immediate
 notification' - it will cost 20 euro per month. Just for the checking.
 o_0
 
 If you want to get closer to `immediate notification' and check every 3
 minutes, costs go up to 35 euro a month.
 
 
 So if I get IMAP-idle working in a stable way and with muxing, it's the
 thing to go with. Interval checking is no choice at all.

Ah, I'm stupid. I calculated for a 24hour day. It could even be more
reduced as not always GPRS is required. I may be at home at USB or have
Wifi.

So with 6 hours on the road and 3 minutes checking I am at 8 euro per
month just for the checking. For a low volume mailbox this would be
still quite a waste.


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Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread Rod Whitby
Stroller wrote:
 On 30 Aug 2008, at 05:34, Rod Whitby wrote:
 Please don't assume that everyone has unlimited data plans.
 
 Please don't assume probably won't prevent developers from doing so.

Nothing can prevent open source developers from taking any world view
they please.  That's their right.  That's why I'm educating them with
the message that unlimited data plans are not available in all parts of
the world.  Whether developers listen to or do anything with that
information is completely up to them.  If it's educated just one of them
who happens to have only lived in a country that has unlimited data
plans, then it has been worth writing.

 It would probably be better to educate readers about WHY we shouldn't  
 assume data transfer via GPRS to be massively cheap  affordable.
 
 Where are you?

Australia.

 Are unlimited data plans completely unavailable there? Or just  
 expensive?

Completely unavailable.

 How much does data transfer cost there? (comparison of data cost  
 relative to calls?)

1c per Kb.  Calls are about 30c/min.

 Why is this? A teleco monopoly?

No, there are three major telco's - it's just that none of them offer
unlimited data plans.

 Why is the situation unlikely to change in the foreseeable?

There are no market forces that will make it change, as Australia is a
large country with a relatively sparse population (2.6 people per square
kilometer).

 It is not
 as common in many parts of the world as it is in your part of the  
 world.
 
 Great, so enlighten me. Saying please don't assume that everyone has  
 unlimited data plans just makes me think, oooh, look! here's  
 someone as cantankerous as I. If you want me to REMEMBER you when  
 developing my hypothetical ultimate mail client then tell me  
 something memorable about data plans in your country.

Things are very different in different parts of the world.  For
instance, in the USA it used to be the case (and may still be) that the
recipient had to pay for incoming mobile calls and SMSs.  Such weird
pricing (where you can be sent poor by someone harrassing you with calls
or SMS messages) has never been seen in Australia.

 I expect the IMAP client on my openmoko phone to be able to  
 download all
 my email for offline reading, deleting, and replying on the bus with
 *no* internet connectivity, and then sync all those changes seamlessly
 to the server as soon as I get the next internet connection.
 
 I expect that, too. Certainly under my data plan this would be  
 essential for foreign holidays.

It's good that our needs are identical then.  Ability to do stuff when
connected, and ability to do stuff when not connected as well.  As
opposed to an assumption that someone is always connected.

-- Rod

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Re: contacts: lookup on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread Dale Maggee
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 05:33:00PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 
 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 01:46:48PM +0100, Tom Yates wrote:
   
 but when i'm in the UK, and a UK call comes in, it shows up as just having 
 a local number (eg 07971 123456).

 these two numbers are functionally the same, but the contacts-lookup that 
 happens won't identify the caller as fred friend unless i edit the 
 contacts entry to say 07971... rather than +447971... .
 
 Simple matching algorithm: match from right to left to numbers on
 agenda.
   
 Prepend call notification with 'likely to be ...' in the case of 
 anything but an exact match.
 

I did a bit of thinking about how numbers could be compared, what rules 
apply etc, and I've had a bit of an Idea:

(note: I have no Idea how any of this stuff works outside australia, so 
these thoughts may or may not apply internationally)

what if the software normalised all numbers to be international format 
when doing this lookup, so that when the phone is dealing with numbers 
internally 0414 123 456 and +614123456 appear the same to it? this 
would eliminate the need for fuzzy matches where 0413 123 456 and 
0414 123 456 might be interpreted as the same number

This could be done (for most numbers) by removing the leading zero and 
adding +country code
for example, the international equivalent of the Australian mobile 
number 0414 123 456 is +61 414 123 456
so, to convert from the regular format to the international format, 
all you need to do is remove the leading zero and prepend +country 
code. also removing any spaces from the numbers would be necessary for 
when doing this type of stuff.

This assumes that the phone knows the country code of whatever country 
you're in. This may be a software setting, or perhaps there's some 
esoteric way of querying the network to find this out? I wonder how 
other phones determine this?

There are a couple of exceptions to this rule, and I'm not sure  of the 
best way to handle these:

For landlines, area codes are optional, i.e you can dial 03 9123 456 
or just 9123 456 if you're in the same area code (again, I suspect 
that you can probably query the network for your current area code, 
otherwise how are all the other phones doing this [I don't have to dial 
03 on my nokia]). so you would need some way of attaching the 03 to 
the 9123... number, then internationalising it. A simple rule which 
would work here in AU is if it doesn't start with 0, prepend '+country 
codearea code minus first character', however there are exceptions 
to this as well - 13 numbers (i.e 13 23 33), 1300, 1800, and 
1900 numbers (1300 123 456, 1800 123 456, 1900 696 969. I'm not 
sure how/if these are converted to an international format, I suspect 
you may not be able to dial them from overseas, probably the best way to 
check for them is by looking at the prefix, 13, 1800, or 1900. 
Then there's 000 (our emergency number).

It gets complicated pretty quickly, but it's not like it's hugely 
complex and difficult - you just need to understand the rules. Another 
potential issue is the differences between different countries - perhaps 
a different set of rules would need to apply for each country, meaning 
that this would be part of or derived from your localisation settings, 
along with timezone and number/date formats.

perhaps it would be possible to contact somebody at a phone network and 
find out exactly what the rules are? I know a couple of people at 
telstra, so it might be worth me sending an email or two.

does anybody know if / how it's possible to query the GSM network for 
your current country / area code?
any comments no whether these rules hold any weight at all internationally?



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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Fox Mulder
I tried to use suspend/resume with debian and the sd_idleclk scripts for
fixing the sd-card bug.
I found two versions of the sd card bugfix. One with the apm.o version
from Christian Adams (which is in the wiki page) and one with two
scripts in /etc/apm/suspend.d and /etc/apm/resume.d (which i would
prefer) from -stacy.
I don't know which one is better, but after a short test with apm -s i
found out that the script in the suspend.d dir is not executed at
suspend. :/

But my real problem starts when it comes to resume my neo.
How would i do this?

The power button has no function at all while in suspend, no matter how
long i press it. It seems that somehow the link between the power button
and the resume function is not given by default even though it is
written in the debian wiki page.

How could i realize this connection for resuming with the power button?

At the moment i had to pull out the battery to get my neo out of suspend
and starting again. :(

Ciao,
 Rainer

Marcel wrote:
 I didn't disable apmd but just used your fix noted on that page. And voilá - 
 debian suspends and resumes like a charm. You just saved my day! :D
 
 -Marcel
 
 Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 12:26:40 schrieb Christian Adams:
 i already found a workaround - running at least for me - for suspend/
 resume
 - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Suspend -
 but i wanted to be sure disabling service apmd is really required

 regards, morlac

 Am 31.08.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds
 floating
 in this mailinglist?

 I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom
 scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates
 the
 sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend.
 Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for
 them. :)

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Christian Adams wrote:
 i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never
 again ..

 regards, morlac

 Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when
 suspending/resuming?

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin

 i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall
 debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no
 backup
 sofar .. darn!

 my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste

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Re: Problem in building image using MokoMakefile

2008-08-31 Thread saurabh gupta
Hello all,

I tried many times to build the openmoko devel image using mokomakefile, but
everytime the package named cairo is failing to build. I cleaned it and
again tried to build, but everytime the same problem exists. The error
message is like this (last few lines):

***
NOTE: package perl-native-5.8.8-r13: task do_compile: completed
NOTE: package perl-native-5.8.8: completed
NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 1101 tasks of which 1100 didn't need to be
rerun and 1 failed.
ERROR: '/home/saurabhg/moko/openembedded/packages/cairo/cairo_1.6.4.bb'
failed
NOTE: build 200808311700: completed
make: *** [openmoko-devel-image] Error 1


Can anyone suggest to fix this.

Thanks..

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Luke Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I saw the same error and fixed it by doing this:

 su root
 echo 0  /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr
 exit

 then try make again.

 Luke.


 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM, saurabh gupta 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 Previously I was using toolchain to compile the programs, but now i need
 the openmoko setup and bitbake in my PC. I used the Mokomakefile to build
 the devel image and followed the instructions  in the wiki. But the
 following command fails with the error:

 ***
 make openmoko-devel-image

 ( cd build  . ../setup-env  \
   ( bitbake openmoko-devel-image u-boot-openmoko ) )
 ERROR:  Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential
 misconfiguration.
 Either fix the cause of this error or at your own risk disable the
 checker (see sanity.conf).
 Following is the list of potential problems / advisories:

 /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr is not 0. This will cause problems with
 qemu so please fix the value (as root).

 make: *** [openmoko-devel-image] Error 1
 **

 Can anyone suggest me the way for fixing this .

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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Marcel
I didn't disable apmd but just used your fix noted on that page. And voilá - 
debian suspends and resumes like a charm. You just saved my day! :D

-Marcel

Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 12:26:40 schrieb Christian Adams:
 i already found a workaround - running at least for me - for suspend/
 resume
 - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Suspend -
 but i wanted to be sure disabling service apmd is really required

 regards, morlac

 Am 31.08.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder:
  When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds
  floating
  in this mailinglist?
 
  I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom
  scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates
  the
  sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend.
  Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for
  them. :)
 
  Ciao,
   Rainer
 
  Christian Adams wrote:
  i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never
  again ..
 
  regards, morlac
 
  Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder:
  Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when
  suspending/resuming?
 
  Ciao,
   Rainer
 
  Christian Adams wrote:
  moinmoin
 
  i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall
  debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no
  backup
  sofar .. darn!
 
  my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste
 
  greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base

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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Marcel
Then suspending doesn't work properly for you. Normally, you push the power 
button once shortly and the neo should be back nearly immediately. The moment 
you remove the battery it boots normally since s2ram needs some energy to 
save the state. :) (is it s2ram what apm -s does?! s2disk would be 
different...)

-Marcel

Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 13:41:32 schrieb Fox Mulder:
snip

 But my real problem starts when it comes to resume my neo.
 How would i do this?

 The power button has no function at all while in suspend, no matter how
 long i press it. It seems that somehow the link between the power button
 and the resume function is not given by default even though it is
 written in the debian wiki page.

 How could i realize this connection for resuming with the power button?

 At the moment i had to pull out the battery to get my neo out of suspend
 and starting again. :(

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Marcel wrote:
  I didn't disable apmd but just used your fix noted on that page. And
  voilá - debian suspends and resumes like a charm. You just saved my day!
  :D
 
  -Marcel
 
  Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 12:26:40 schrieb Christian Adams:
  i already found a workaround - running at least for me - for suspend/
  resume
  - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Suspend -
  but i wanted to be sure disabling service apmd is really required
 
  regards, morlac
 
  Am 31.08.2008 um 12:14 schrieb Fox Mulder:
  When playing with apm didn't you use the sd_idleclk workarounds
  floating
  in this mailinglist?
 
  I didn't try to suspend so far, but i already installed the custom
  scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d and /etc/apm/suspend.d which activates
  the
  sd-card clock before suspend and deactivates it after suspend.
  Don't know if this helps, but some people report that this works for
  them. :)
 
  Ciao,
   Rainer
 
  Christian Adams wrote:
  i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never
  again ..
 
  regards, morlac
 
  Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder:
  Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when
  suspending/resuming?
 
  Ciao,
   Rainer
 
  Christian Adams wrote:
  moinmoin
 
  i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall
  debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no
  backup
  sofar .. darn!
 
  my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste
 
  greetings, morlac - doing backup of 8G when done on a daily base
 
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Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Kluge

 Yes. Compiling pixman breaks with an unresolved symbol
 pixman...something. There was a message about this on devel on Aug.
 13  and the answer was like please wait 1 or 2 weeks, sources will be
 fixed until then.
 
 If I remember well - I am an old man ... - . This happened only if you tried
 to build FSO in the openmoko environment. Do not do that.
   

No . That's not what I want. I am on the 2008.08 path.

 I looked into the different builds. The last time pixmap was build in a
 testing on my machine was the 14.8. (Aug.14). It was not different from
 earlier builds in stable or dev. Same source, same result.
   
OK. Then I will wipe out my sources und try everything from scratch.


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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Try to update the kernel (don't forget the modules)

take the modules tgz and uImage from there --
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080830/
depmod and don't forget to add g_ether to your /etc/modules (for the
usb0 to work)

yea it is s2ram, s2disk would take much more time and would not be
usable if ur using freerunner as a phone (that's what i think, what's
the fastest s2disk can do? )
 But my real problem starts when it comes to resume my neo.
 How would i do this?

 The power button has no function at all while in suspend, no matter how
 long i press it. It seems that somehow the link between the power button
 and the resume function is not given by default even though it is
 written in the debian wiki page.

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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Zanetti
i have this problem quite often. I noticed that it is sufficient to re-create 
the partition table using fdisk. All your data should be still on your card. 
However, the partition sizes have to match. Just remember the values when 
creating and re-use them. 

On Sunday 31 August 2008 12:00:39 Christian Adams wrote:
 i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never
 again ..

 regards, morlac

 Am 31.08.2008 um 11:52 schrieb Fox Mulder:
  Do you refer to the sd-card partition table corruption bug when
  suspending/resuming?
 
  Ciao,
   Rainer
 
  Christian Adams wrote:
  moinmoin
 
  i just did some experiments with apmd .. now i have to reinstall
  debian on my 8G because - some might already guess - i had no backup
  sofar .. darn!
 
  my luck it's weekend - so a lot time to waste
 
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Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-08-31 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello,

I just flashed my FreeRunner with the latest kernel and rootfs from
Om2008.8 update[1]. Images dated August 31st, to be precise.
After booting, I discovered that the FR suspends after 30 secs. No
problem, I'll just go into settings and turn off suspend.

But it doesn't work. No matter what I set suspend to, it always
suspends after 30 secs (unless I continually tap the screen).

I guess everybody understands how frustrating it is trying to work
with a device that suspends every 30 secs. Since I don't have three
hands, it is very difficult to to try to fix things via usb.
I see from the support list that a couple of other people also have
disovered this issue, but no solution. I tried looking at trac, but
couldn't find anything.

Please, any hints on how to fix this?

On a general note: could we ask to have all new images shipped with
suspend _off_ until the devlopement is finished at least?
And preferably tested as well

References:
1) http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/
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Re: QTopia 4.3.2 resume on incomming SMS bug

2008-08-31 Thread Thomas B.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:16:14AM +0200, Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote:
 Daniel Selinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The only thing i recognized is, when receiving an sms while in
  suspend, the phone resumes, but doesn't notify me about an incoming
  sms, and when i go to the messaging app, there is nothing new in the
  inbox. In fact i know 'something' arrived, because the phone woke up
  from suspend.
  
  All messages which were received during suspend 'arrive' when the
  first sms comes in while the phone is awake.
  
  Sent 3 sms during suspend (always waited between until the phone
  suspended again), no alert. Wake the phone up manually, no alert.
  Send the first sms while awake. Phone alerts me that i have received 4
  new sms messages.
  
  Maybe someone can tell me where to report bugs in the QTopia image.
 
 this sounds awully like:
 
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1792
 
 hope this helps.

Sounds similar, but I doubt that it is the same issue, because #1792 was
caused by an Openmoko specific patch to the Qtopia source, which
probably isn't included in the original Qtopia.

Anyway, a hint for diagnosing this problem is to get log data to see how
and where it fails. I guess logging isn't enabled by default in Qtopia,
but AFAIK it can be enabled by copying
/opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Log.conf to
~/Settings/Trolltech/Log.conf and enabling some logging options there
(in particular AtChat for the communication with the GSM modem). The
logs can then be read with logread.

HTH,
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Re: [Bug Filing Policy] please read before crate ticket

2008-08-31 Thread Olivier Berger
Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 fre 2008-08-29 klockan 18:36 +0800 skrev regina:

 Please Read this first  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bug_Filing_Policy

 I'm sorry to say that the Trac is in a mess (I understand that you think
 it is, I partly do to) but there's been a constant lack of clear
 information on where and how to file bugs/issues.

 I'm also sorry to ask why this information still isn't on
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/newticket - isn't that where it should've
 be in the very first place?

 (Don't expect the community to understand what you can't sort out
 yourself (put information in the right place))


+1

And : https://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1535 filed

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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-08-31 Thread Thomas B.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 02:46:05PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I just flashed my FreeRunner with the latest kernel and rootfs from
 Om2008.8 update[1]. Images dated August 31st, to be precise.
 After booting, I discovered that the FR suspends after 30 secs. No
 problem, I'll just go into settings and turn off suspend.
 
 But it doesn't work. No matter what I set suspend to, it always
 suspends after 30 secs (unless I continually tap the screen).
 
 I guess everybody understands how frustrating it is trying to work
 with a device that suspends every 30 secs. Since I don't have three
 hands, it is very difficult to to try to fix things via usb.
 I see from the support list that a couple of other people also have
 disovered this issue, but no solution. I tried looking at trac, but
 couldn't find anything.

http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1928

 Please, any hints on how to fix this?

Not yet, AFAIK.

Regards,
Thomas


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prediction feature for the keyboard

2008-08-31 Thread Björn Martensen
Hi,

I just thought about something which I saw in an iphone video from apple
a while back which was about the prediction feature in their keyboard.
They make the area for the key which is likely to be pressed next bigger
while keeping the size of the graphics the same of course, but it's less
likely that you press an r when this letter is not common in words
after a certain letter, so they make the area which recognizes the
finger input as an e bigger and reduce the size for r, w and so
on.

This shouldn't be too hard, right? I mean, dasher has somewhat the same
approach, but while the iphone only does this for english (iirc), dasher
would provide this feature for much more languages.
So my idea was to have the graphics stay the same all the time (with
effects for pressed keys and such of course, but the same of the keys
stay the same visibly) and have some kind of invisible second layer
which represents the input areas. These areas change their size all the
time. Dasher does this already, as it makes the areas for the next
letter to be written larger and reduces the size of unlikely to be
written letters.
Is it somehow possible to get the likelyness of the next letter to be
written (and even the ones after that, es dasher even recognizes words)
from dasher and use this information to dynamically change the size of
the input areas?

Maybe this can be integrated into raster's keyboard, as I heard it's
pretty usable with finger input already, but this should be able to make
it even better as input errors would be reduced.

This should work fine for email, im, sms and such, but might be a
problem in a terminal, as you don't really write words here. So it might
be better to turn it off for the terminal, while using the devices
locale for the other language to be used for prediction in the other
use-cases. Maybe an option to set the prediction-language for the
keyboard would be nice too, as I for example like to keep my system
using an english locale but write sms, emails and im in german.

What do you think about this idea?

greets,
Björn


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Re: saving and restoring GPS data for U-blox chip quicker startup

2008-08-31 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
 I dont see any benefits over the save on
 gpsd exit or save on 'gps off' in settings menu method, except that just
 another daemon steals CPU time and consumes RAM.
 
 Of course such solution should be integrated in an already running gps 
 daemon. gpsd already decodes some messages, it could be improved to 
 retrieve and save those additional aid messages. No more RAM would be 
 needed. I don't plan to use gpsd so my solution would be a replacement 
 for it. Such daemon shouldn't consume more than one megabyte of RAM, 
 actually I would say much less than a megabyte.

Nice... I had the same doubt too. Now I'm just waiting for your posts 
with linked code :P

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Sunday 31 August 2008, Petr Vanek wrote:
 I have installed the new libficgta01vendor.so file but no help, echo
 still persists. I got the same error as other people (Not
 Downgrading), so manual replacement of the previous
 libficgta01vendor.so by the new one was necessary. I have also
 tweaked my alsa settings a bit hoping that in a combination this
 would be sufficient but it didn't help.

I tested the patch by confirming that there is an echo by calling the 
freerunner, then installed the package (--force-downgrade is required), 
rebooted and placed another call. The echo was gone. Some people 
however still complain about the echo. It seems to depend on the 
speaker volume, but I'll investigate a bit further. It's just that my 
time for working on the phone is very limited. I did the patch 
(including the test) in about 2 hours and haven't had any time since 
then. Please be patient and report your experience. I'm pretty 
confident that we can solve this issue.

Cheers,
Florian

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FSO testing on Neo 1973 - todays upgrade

2008-08-31 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello,

I am still running FSO testing on my Neo 1973.

When trying to do an upgrade today, I see this: (first I did the 'opkg update'):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg -test upgrade
Upgrading angstrom-version on root from 1:-20080826-r1 to 1:-20080831-r1...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/om-gta01/angstrom-version_-20080831-r1_om-gta01.ipk
Upgrading e-wm on root from 0.16.999.042+cvs20080802-r9 to
0.16.999.043+svnr35592-r11...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.043+svnr35592-r11_armv4t.ipk
Installing libefreet0 (1:0.5.0.043+svnr35592-r1) to root...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/libefreet0_0.5.0.043+svnr35592-r1_armv4t.ipk
Upgrading gst-meta-audio on root from 0.10-r10 to 0.10-r11...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/gst-meta-audio_0.10-r11_armv4t.ipk
Installing gst-plugin-wavparse (0.10.7-r2) to root...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/gst-plugin-wavparse_0.10.7-r2_armv4t.ipk
Upgrading gst-meta-base on root from 0.10-r10 to 0.10-r11...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/gst-meta-base_0.10-r11_armv4t.ipk
gst-meta-base: unsatisfied recommendation for gst-plugin-gnomevfs
Upgrading illume on root from 0.0+svnr170-r11 to 0.0+svnr35605-r13...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr35605-r13_armv4t.ipk
Installing libefreet0 (1:0.5.0.043+svnr35592-r1) to root...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/libefreet0_0.5.0.043+svnr35592-r1_armv4t.ipk
Upgrading libcairo2 on root from 1.6.4-r1 to 1.6.4-r3...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/libcairo2_1.6.4-r3_armv4t.ipk
Upgrading libefreet-mime0 on root from 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080802-r0 to
1:0.5.0.043+svnr35592-r1...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/libefreet-mime0_0.5.0.043+svnr35592-r1_armv4t.ipk
Installing libefreet0 (1:0.5.0.043+svnr35592-r1) to root...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/libefreet0_0.5.0.043+svnr35592-r1_armv4t.ipk
Upgrading libsdl-1.2-0 on root from 1.2.9-r6 to 1.2.11-r6...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.11-r6_armv4t.ipk
Upgrading ppp on root from 2.4.3-r3 to 2.4.3-r4...
Downloading 
http://shr.bearstech.com/fso-testing/ipk/armv4t/ppp_2.4.3-r4_armv4t.ipk
Collected errors:
 * Package libefreet0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0
But that file is already provided by package  * efreet
 * Package libefreet0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0.5.0
But that file is already provided by package  * efreet
 * Package libefreet0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0
But that file is already provided by package  * efreet
 * Package libefreet0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0.5.0
But that file is already provided by package  * efreet
 * Package libefreet0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0
But that file is already provided by package  * efreet
 * Package libefreet0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libefreet.so.0.5.0
But that file is already provided by package  * efreet

I have been brnt by opkg updates often enough to always do a 'opkg
-test upgrade' first, so that I can try to see how things might break.
Two questions:

1) is the message gst-meta-base: unsatisfied recommendation for
gst-plugin-gnomevfs fatal? What will break?
2) What is the correct way to fix the efreet /libefreet0 mixup?
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Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-31 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

Just for reference, I filed a ticket about this issue : 
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1933

Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Somebody in the thread at some point said:

 | Anyway, it seems it's rather unstable in the first times the system is
 | brought up, and stabilizes after a while.
 | If I unplug the USB cable when I lose IP connectivity, and replug
 | after 1/2 seconds, then it becomes more stable. Well maybe the fact
 | that I'm running a ping 192.168.0.202 continously helps also at that
 | stage : it may help maintain connectivity somehow ?


 Just to confirm that I experienced a similar behaviour with 2008.8
 running from flash too :(

 Maybe I'll be able to provide more diagnostics once I'm more confident
 with the networking setup in 2008.8.


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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hello,

On Sunday 31 August 2008 14:46:05 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
 Hello,

 I just flashed my FreeRunner with the latest kernel and rootfs from
 Om2008.8 update[1]. Images dated August 31st, to be precise.
 After booting, I discovered that the FR suspends after 30 secs. No
 problem, I'll just go into settings and turn off suspend.

 But it doesn't work. No matter what I set suspend to, it always
 suspends after 30 secs (unless I continually tap the screen).


Confirmed. I'm trying to fight the same issue right now. Unfortunately I have 
no solution so far.

 I guess everybody understands how frustrating it is trying to work
 with a device that suspends every 30 secs. Since I don't have three
 hands, it is very difficult to to try to fix things via usb.
 I see from the support list that a couple of other people also have
 disovered this issue, but no solution. I tried looking at trac, but
 couldn't find anything.

 Please, any hints on how to fix this?


If you are just working over ssh I have a small workaround for you. Most of 
the time, before the Neo suspends, the X-Screensaver comes up. If you wake the 
Neo up without touching the screen (screen should be left blank with backlight 
slightly on) it doesn't suspend any more until you touch the screen (stop the 
screensaver). As it happens quite often that you need to touch the screen 
while testing, this is not a real workaround. But it can help just doing some 
installs, configs or something else on the terminal without having to touch 
your screen every 20 seconds to prevent suspending.



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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Okay so I downloaded:
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/1267/qtopia-phone-x11-phonevendor-ficgta01vendor_4.3.2%2Bgit2%2B13101ab6ddaec380871ae8021a92140af526c4df-r38.05_om-gta02.opk

Is this installable on 2008.08 w/ upgrades?

So I can do a

opkg install -force-downgrade
qtopia-phone-x11-phonevendor-ficgta01vendor_4.3.2+git2+13101ab6ddaec380871ae8021a92140af526c4df-r38.05_om-gta02.opk

To try to fix the echo issue?

Or is this not for 2008.08 w/ upgrades?



On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Florian Hackenberger 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 31 August 2008, Petr Vanek wrote:
  I have installed the new libficgta01vendor.so file but no help, echo
  still persists. I got the same error as other people (Not
  Downgrading), so manual replacement of the previous
  libficgta01vendor.so by the new one was necessary. I have also
  tweaked my alsa settings a bit hoping that in a combination this
  would be sufficient but it didn't help.

 I tested the patch by confirming that there is an echo by calling the
 freerunner, then installed the package (--force-downgrade is required),
 rebooted and placed another call. The echo was gone. Some people
 however still complain about the echo. It seems to depend on the
 speaker volume, but I'll investigate a bit further. It's just that my
 time for working on the phone is very limited. I did the patch
 (including the test) in about 2 hours and haven't had any time since
 then. Please be patient and report your experience. I'm pretty
 confident that we can solve this issue.

 Cheers,
Florian

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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-08-31 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1928

Yes, that is the one.

 Not yet, AFAIK.

I tried with the 'apm' command, but it is useless for this - iyt can
only show parameters and suspend the phone, not change suspend timer.
Crap.
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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-08-31 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello,

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Michael Zanetti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you are just working over ssh I have a small workaround for you. Most of

Ah - very useful - thank you. :-)

 the time, before the Neo suspends, the X-Screensaver comes up. If you wake the

Hmm, perhaps the xscreensaver is involved in this?
Does anyone know where the suspend parameters (for lack of a better
term) is stored?
Or which command is used to change them?
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Re: Is it possible to netboot a FreeRunner?

2008-08-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 30 August 2008, Andreas Zuber wrote:
 Am Samstag 30 August 2008 10:06:01 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen:
  Hi,
 
  I just got a strange idea into my head. So I'll ask a possibly silly
  question:
 
  Is it possble to netboot a Neo FreeRunner? Can you netboot at all over
  usb? Does uboot have netbot support?

 I know uboot from an other embedded system, where it was installed, and it
 is able to download a kernel from a tftp server to the memory. This is done
 by the tftpboot command.
 There is also a dhcp command so uboot can get an ip for the network.

 But i dont know if uboot can handle the usb as a network device. Someone
 has already tried this?

I think it can be done, but you will now need a custom kernel. When moving the 
USB ethernet gadget driver from built-in to module Andy Green (IIRC) 
mentioned that someone needed it builtin for netbooting with rootfs on NFS.

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Okay so I downloaded:

 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/1267/qtopia-phone-x11-phonevendor-ficgta01vendor_4.3.2%2Bgit2%2B13101ab6ddaec380871ae8021a92140af526c4df-r38.05_om-gta02.opk



Is this installable on 2008.08 w/ upgrades?


Also I just noticed this says gta01 and I have a freerunner.  And sorry for
my previous sloppy top post w/ included comments...
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Resolvconf fix - Was: Re: HAL update, OM2008.8

2008-08-31 Thread Olivier Berger
FYI, I think there's a missing bit in procedure bellow :

Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nishit Dave wrote:
 Hi,

 The current upgrade of hal from 0.5.9-r6 to 0.5.11-r0 today through
 the official repository led to the following exit message (relating to
 haldaemon):
 Cannot create link over existing -/etc/resolv.conf-.
 which would be the case because of the earlier resolvconf problem
 being solved manually by creating a real /etc/resolv.conf file.  Now,
 should that file be replaced again with a link, and how?



 Move resolv.conf to /var/run/resolv.conf and then link /etc/resolv.conf
 to it.
 maybe.

 Found an update on the wiki:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues

 NOTE: Solusion: Steps to add missing scripts:

 touch /etc/resolvconf/run/enable-updates
 cd /etc ; rm resolv.conf ; ln -s /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf .
 mkdir /lib/resolvconf/ ; cd /lib/resolvconf/
 wget http://kopparv34.mine.nu/list-records

Also do that at that time : 
chmod +x list-records

 Edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove the lines:
 network 192.168.0.0
 gateway 192.168.0.200
 If we need to use the usb network more then just locally from the computer
 in the other end of the USB-cable, login with ssh and add a default route
 like this:
 route add default gateway 192.168.0.200


 I haven't tried it so far.

I have updated the wiki with this chmod bit.

Dunno either if this solves anything, but it helps issueing
resolvconf -u ;)

Hope this helps.

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 30 August 2008, Yann SLADEK wrote:
 Hi,

 does your patch work with a FreeRunner ?

The patch turns on the echo and noise suppression capabilities in the GSM 
chipset using one of the hidden and NDA's AT commands someone kindly posted 
on the hardware list. I've tested it on my Freerunner under FSO and it works. 
Since GTA01 uses the same chipset I expect it will work there as well. Note 
that the post to the hardware list doesn't have full documentation of the 
functions so we may not be using the best or most reliable method of 
switching this function on, but for me at least it is a big improvement.

 if yes, why are we able to cancel the echo by setting some values under
 gsmhandset.state here :
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028465.html

See my explanation later in the same thread. It sounds like the echo 
suppression in the GSM chipset is using a noise gate and level control 
similar to the one built into the Wolfson audio chip but not used in the 
current alsa state files.

Note that even with the patch if you turn up the earpiece volume and the mic 
gain high enough there will be echo. The mic will pick up enough of the sound 
from the earpiece to fool the system into thinking you are speaking. 


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Re: prediction feature for the keyboard

2008-08-31 Thread Charles Pax
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Björn Martensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 They make the area for the key which is likely to be pressed next bigger
 while keeping the size of the graphics the same of course, but it's less
 likely that you press an r when this letter is not common in words
 after a certain letter, so they make the area which recognizes the
 finger input as an e bigger and reduce the size for r, w and so
 on.


 This seems like a good idea, but I'd like the opinion of a human interface
expert.

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Archives of previous working stable 2008.8 distribution packages/images ?

2008-08-31 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

It seems to me that recent merge from testing to stable has broken
quite some things (hal, suspend, etc.) as I read the reports here.

Is there a way to revert a specific set of packages for those who
would have upgraded and would go back to previous stable version ?

Debian used to have snapshots.debian.net which would store all
packages released as they get updated and may disappear from the
distribution mirrors.

Is there some way to do that for the opkg stable feeds ?

On a side note, are the daily stable images saved also ?

Hope this helps.

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Cpoying image to internal flash

2008-08-31 Thread William Kenworthy
I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable.  Before
I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card,
is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself?

BillK

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Re: contacts: lookup on incoming call

2008-08-31 Thread roguemoko
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 05:33:00PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 
 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 01:46:48PM +0100, Tom Yates wrote:
   
 but when i'm in the UK, and a UK call comes in, it shows up as just having 
 a local number (eg 07971 123456).

 these two numbers are functionally the same, but the contacts-lookup that 
 happens won't identify the caller as fred friend unless i edit the 
 contacts entry to say 07971... rather than +447971... .
 
 Simple matching algorithm: match from right to left to numbers on
 agenda.
   
 Prepend call notification with 'likely to be ...' in the case of 
 anything but an exact match.
 

 I find it very hard that in the extremely small database of contacts on
 your phone (it's tiny in terms of databases) that you'll have a fuzzy
 match.

 Specially, because you'll have a big number match.
   

True. The numbers would have to be from seperate countries to conflict.

Currently it's not even this accurate, the match needs to be exact, so I 
suppose addressing accuracy is kinda moot :)

Sounds like the right way to do it to me.

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Re: FSO - GPSD problem

2008-08-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 30 August 2008, rhn wrote:
 Hi
 I'm using the testing branch of FSO and was unable to get GPS working right
 yet. The version is 2.34-r9, so I think it's somewhat current.

 The first problem was the antenna not seated well (resolved, obviously).
 The other problem is that the gpsd itself (?) is behaving odd.
 I was trying to troubleshoot using the GPSD FAQ. I found out that

 gpsd -D 4 -N /dev/ttySAC1

 provides some useful output and I can try to connect to the gpsd via
 telnet. Trying that, I noticed that most of the time the connection is
 accepted but stalled... sometimes I get to the GPSD console and the
 daemon prints:

 gpsd: client connect on 6

 but usually telnet just prints nothing.
 This occurs regardless of the IP I'm using (loopback or ethernet), and port
 (tried 998), dropbear's ssh also can listen properly.

 Is there anything I can do to make sure it's not my fault before filing a
 bug report?

IIRC FSO uses a different gps daemon (ogpsd?) that makes GPS data available 
over dbus using the gypsy protocol, plus extensions to support control of the 
hardware. If you don't kill this before starting gpsd they will fight over 
the serial port and one, other or both will not work. 


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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-31 Thread Valerio Valerio
2008/8/31 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Saturday 30 August 2008, Valerio Valerio wrote:
  This happens because the PS3 is trying to register a special service
  record, the ReMoko app have a standard keyboard and mouse combo service
  record. Do you know if is possible to use a standard bluetooth keyboard
 in
  the PS3 ? I only know that is possible to use some special bluetooth
  keyboard, that only work in the PS3.

 I've used my Stowaway bluetooth keyboard with a friend's PS3 as well as my
 Freerunner. It's a standard bluetooth HID that's been around for longer
 than
 the PS3, so I don't imagine there's anything special in there for PS3
 support.


Can you send me some information of your keyboard ?

In a Linux machine do the following command with the keyboard in discover
mode:

sdptool records --xml keyboard_mac_address'   stowaway_records

After that, send me the stowaway_records file.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Sunday 31 August 2008, Geoff Ruscoe wrote:
 Is this installable on 2008.08 w/ upgrades?
It should be. This package just contains a dynamically loadable library 
which is loaded by the qpe process. If it breaks your phone 
functionality, just connect via ssh and replace the package with the 
one from the repositories.

 Also I just noticed this says gta01 and I have a freerunner.  And
 sorry for my previous sloppy top post w/ included comments...
It says gta01 because the source code for the library was obviously 
developed some time ago. It applies to both phones, as the only piece 
of hardware this library depends on is the GSM chip (which should be 
the same, but information regarding the GSM chipset is VERY sparse).

I promise, I never harmed a top poster in real life :-), I just try to 
educate people that sending mails like this makes reading them quite 
unpleasant.

Cheers,
Florian

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Re: alsa-mixer settings - how to setup best?

2008-08-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 31 August 2008, Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin

 can someone explain what the various switches/controllers found in
 alsa-mixer are for / how they have to be set for various use-cases .. ?

There's a block diagram of the Wolfson chip with many of the ALSA control 
numbers on it at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_audio_subsystem

The same page shows suggested routing for various scenarios, though the 
gsmhandset.state supplied in the images doesn't follow this suggestion.

There's more info on the chip at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/WM8753
I recommend reading its datasheet if you intend to do 

 i for now am a little bit confused by the high number of possible
 settings .. which do i really need? which can be safely masked?

That depends entirely on what you're trying to do. Have a read of the docs 
above. You may still be confused, but at least you'll be in a position to ask 
more specific questions ;-)

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Re: Cpoying image to internal flash

2008-08-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 31 August 2008, William Kenworthy wrote:
 I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable.  Before
 I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card,
 is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself?

 BillK

In sort, yes, so long as the image isn't going to be too big. Search the 
wiki - the instructions are in there.

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread roguemoko
Florian Hackenberger wrote:
 On Sunday 31 August 2008, Petr Vanek wrote:
   
 I have installed the new libficgta01vendor.so file but no help, echo
 still persists. I got the same error as other people (Not
 Downgrading), so manual replacement of the previous
 libficgta01vendor.so by the new one was necessary. I have also
 tweaked my alsa settings a bit hoping that in a combination this
 would be sufficient but it didn't help.
 

 I tested the patch by confirming that there is an echo by calling the 
 freerunner, then installed the package (--force-downgrade is required), 
 rebooted and placed another call. The echo was gone. Some people 
 however still complain about the echo. It seems to depend on the 
 speaker volume, but I'll investigate a bit further. It's just that my 
 time for working on the phone is very limited. I did the patch 
 (including the test) in about 2 hours and haven't had any time since 
 then. Please be patient and report your experience. I'm pretty 
 confident that we can solve this issue.
   

I installed the package (raster+om2008-updated) and the echo did 
decrease quite bit. Unfortunately it was still there though, but very faint.

Adjusting my mixer/state settings to those specified in another thread 
removed it completely but other levels were too soft. I think the 
settings were probably compensating too much and could be backed off a bit.

Not sure which levels to alter but it'd probably be a good idea to get 
the guys from the other thread in on this as they are actively modifying 
the values to eliminate the echo. It's looking like a combination might 
be the way.

Thanks.

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread roguemoko
Geoff Ruscoe wrote:

 Is this installable on 2008.08 w/ upgrades?


 Also I just noticed this says gta01 and I have a freerunner.


Yep, says gta01, just like the one you currently have installed :)

opkg list_installed|grep gta01

Also check out your arch file and configured feeds. There's some 
selective compatibility.

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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 31 August 2008, Valerio Valerio wrote:
 2008/8/31 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  On Saturday 30 August 2008, Valerio Valerio wrote:
   This happens because the PS3 is trying to register a special service
   record, the ReMoko app have a standard keyboard and mouse combo service
   record. Do you know if is possible to use a standard bluetooth keyboard
 
  in
 
   the PS3 ? I only know that is possible to use some special bluetooth
   keyboard, that only work in the PS3.
 
  I've used my Stowaway bluetooth keyboard with a friend's PS3 as well as
  my Freerunner. It's a standard bluetooth HID that's been around for
  longer than
  the PS3, so I don't imagine there's anything special in there for PS3
  support.

 Can you send me some information of your keyboard ?

 In a Linux machine do the following command with the keyboard in discover
 mode:

 sdptool records --xml keyboard_mac_address'   stowaway_records

 After that, send me the stowaway_records file.

 Thanks in advance.

 Best regards,

sdptool didn't like the --xml switch so here's the output from sdptool records 
keyboard_mac_address

Service Name: Broadcom Bluetooth Demo Keyboard
Service Description: Keyboard
Service Provider: Broadcom Corp.
Service RecHandle: 0x1
Service Class ID List:
  Human Interface Device (0x1124)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
PSM: 17
  HIDP (0x0011)
Language Base Attr List:
  code_ISO639: 0x656e
  encoding:0x6a
  base_offset: 0x100
Profile Descriptor List:
  Human Interface Device (0x1124)
Version: 0x0100

Service RecHandle: 0x10001
Service Class ID List:
  PnP Information (0x1200)
Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
PSM: 1
  SDP (0x0001)
Profile Descriptor List:
  PnP Information (0x1200)
Version: 0x0100


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Re: Is it possible to netboot a FreeRunner?

2008-08-31 Thread Jan Keymeulen
On Sun 31 August 2008 om 14:30:11 GMT Al Johnson told us:
 On Saturday 30 August 2008, Andreas Zuber wrote:
  Am Samstag 30 August 2008 10:06:01 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen:
   Hi,
  
   I just got a strange idea into my head. So I'll ask a possibly silly
   question:
  
   Is it possble to netboot a Neo FreeRunner? Can you netboot at all over
   usb? Does uboot have netbot support?
 
  I know uboot from an other embedded system, where it was installed, and it
  is able to download a kernel from a tftp server to the memory. This is done
  by the tftpboot command.
  There is also a dhcp command so uboot can get an ip for the network.
 
  But i dont know if uboot can handle the usb as a network device. Someone
  has already tried this?
 
 I think it can be done, but you will now need a custom kernel. When moving 
 the 
 USB ethernet gadget driver from built-in to module Andy Green (IIRC) 
 mentioned that someone needed it builtin for netbooting with rootfs on NFS.

Booting with rootfs on nfs != netbooting.

Netbooting gets a kernel from a tftpserver, while rootfs on nfs requires
a kernel already loaded. The problem here is that it's uncertain whether
uboot can handle the usb network interface (or wireless or bluetooth).

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Qtopia 4.3.3 errors?

2008-08-31 Thread Hypnotize
Hi, I have found some errors in Qtopia version 4.3.3:

1. The Software Packages application does not work: Application terminated:
Software Packages was terminated due to application error.

2. The wifi configurator does not work, it saves the config but cant connect
to the wifi network (WEP protected).

3. The Internet application does hang the phone when I try to delete a
configuration.

4. The phone says that the sim card is not ready or not inserted when i try
to delete a sms or change the speaker volume (It works if I wait 1-2 hours
and try again).

5. I get asked for entering the pin code twice almost all the time.

6. It reconnects to the GSM network almost every minute, but not when i'm
speaking with someone.


Does it exist some fixes for this problems?

-Morten
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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-31 Thread Valerio Valerio
2008/8/31 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sunday 31 August 2008, Valerio Valerio wrote:
  2008/8/31 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   On Saturday 30 August 2008, Valerio Valerio wrote:
This happens because the PS3 is trying to register a special service
record, the ReMoko app have a standard keyboard and mouse combo
 service
record. Do you know if is possible to use a standard bluetooth
 keyboard
  
   in
  
the PS3 ? I only know that is possible to use some special bluetooth
keyboard, that only work in the PS3.
  
   I've used my Stowaway bluetooth keyboard with a friend's PS3 as well as
   my Freerunner. It's a standard bluetooth HID that's been around for
   longer than
   the PS3, so I don't imagine there's anything special in there for PS3
   support.
 
  Can you send me some information of your keyboard ?
 
  In a Linux machine do the following command with the keyboard in discover
  mode:
 
  sdptool records --xml keyboard_mac_address'   stowaway_records
 
  After that, send me the stowaway_records file.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Best regards,

 sdptool didn't like the --xml switch so here's the output from sdptool
 records
 keyboard_mac_address

 Service Name: Broadcom Bluetooth Demo Keyboard
 Service Description: Keyboard
 Service Provider: Broadcom Corp.
 Service RecHandle: 0x1
 Service Class ID List:
  Human Interface Device (0x1124)
 Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
PSM: 17
  HIDP (0x0011)
 Language Base Attr List:
  code_ISO639: 0x656e
  encoding:0x6a
  base_offset: 0x100
 Profile Descriptor List:
  Human Interface Device (0x1124)
Version: 0x0100

 Service RecHandle: 0x10001
 Service Class ID List:
  PnP Information (0x1200)
 Protocol Descriptor List:
  L2CAP (0x0100)
PSM: 1
  SDP (0x0001)
 Profile Descriptor List:
  PnP Information (0x1200)
Version: 0x0100


This not help :). I need the all service record,  The --xml switch works
fine in all my computers (ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04).
Can you send me the hcidump output during a keyboard paring  process ? (the
records are exchanged in the process)

Thanks again.

Cheers,

-- 
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http://www.valeriovalerio.org



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Re: Is it possible to netboot a FreeRunner?

2008-08-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 31 August 2008, Jan Keymeulen wrote:
 On Sun 31 August 2008 om 14:30:11 GMT Al Johnson told us:
  On Saturday 30 August 2008, Andreas Zuber wrote:
   Am Samstag 30 August 2008 10:06:01 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen:
Hi,
   
I just got a strange idea into my head. So I'll ask a possibly silly
question:
   
Is it possble to netboot a Neo FreeRunner? Can you netboot at all
over usb? Does uboot have netbot support?
  
   I know uboot from an other embedded system, where it was installed, and
   it is able to download a kernel from a tftp server to the memory. This
   is done by the tftpboot command.
   There is also a dhcp command so uboot can get an ip for the network.
  
   But i dont know if uboot can handle the usb as a network device.
   Someone has already tried this?
 
  I think it can be done, but you will now need a custom kernel. When
  moving the USB ethernet gadget driver from built-in to module Andy Green
  (IIRC) mentioned that someone needed it builtin for netbooting with
  rootfs on NFS.

 Booting with rootfs on nfs != netbooting.

 Netbooting gets a kernel from a tftpserver, while rootfs on nfs requires
 a kernel already loaded. The problem here is that it's uncertain whether
 uboot can handle the usb network interface (or wireless or bluetooth).

I know the distinction well as I netboot diskless workstations, but my 
recollection of the exchange is that someone _was_ netbooting. Looking back 
at the thread I may have been reading things into it due to my experience 
netbooting a Neuros OSD, as the boot method isn't explicitly mentioned. 
Andy's last comment suggests it may not be supported, but judge for yourself 
starting about half way through this thread:

http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td641300

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Re: Is it possible to netboot a FreeRunner?

2008-08-31 Thread Jeff Sadowski
You would probably  need a driver built into uboot to recognize a usb
network device or maybe a way in uboot to setup wifi. I know my avaya
wireless phones look for new images on my tftp server when they boot.
Maybe if there was a way to replace a live kernel that might work for
you?

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Jan Keymeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun 31 August 2008 om 14:30:11 GMT Al Johnson told us:
 On Saturday 30 August 2008, Andreas Zuber wrote:
  Am Samstag 30 August 2008 10:06:01 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen:
   Hi,
  
   I just got a strange idea into my head. So I'll ask a possibly silly
   question:
  
   Is it possble to netboot a Neo FreeRunner? Can you netboot at all over
   usb? Does uboot have netbot support?
 
  I know uboot from an other embedded system, where it was installed, and it
  is able to download a kernel from a tftp server to the memory. This is done
  by the tftpboot command.
  There is also a dhcp command so uboot can get an ip for the network.
 
  But i dont know if uboot can handle the usb as a network device. Someone
  has already tried this?

 I think it can be done, but you will now need a custom kernel. When moving 
 the
 USB ethernet gadget driver from built-in to module Andy Green (IIRC)
 mentioned that someone needed it builtin for netbooting with rootfs on NFS.

 Booting with rootfs on nfs != netbooting.

 Netbooting gets a kernel from a tftpserver, while rootfs on nfs requires
 a kernel already loaded. The problem here is that it's uncertain whether
 uboot can handle the usb network interface (or wireless or bluetooth).

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Qtopia 4.3.3 Alarm Clock not starting after wake up

2008-08-31 Thread Timo Scheffler
Hello!

I'm using Qtopia 4.3.3 (installed via the rootfs image from qtopia.net).

If I set the Alarm Clock and the phone doesn't suspend until the time for
the alarm has come, it works as expected.
But if the openmoko goes to sleep and the time arrives, it wakes up but
there is no alarm clock (not ringing, no application or notice on the
screen, just the homescreen or whatever was shown as it went to sleep).

I think by the time the openmoko is resumed, the point in time when the
alarm would start is already in the past.
If I could change the alarm clock to set the wakeup time for the phone to
5 seconds before the alarm clock is triggered, it would be awake and the
alarm would work.

Maybe you know a fix for this or know another reason why the clock isn't
working (in case I got the wrong idea of how the system works) and would
bother to tell me. :)

Thanks in advance,
Timo Scheffler


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Re: FSO - GPSD problem

2008-08-31 Thread arne anka
 IIRC FSO uses a different gps daemon (ogpsd?) that makes GPS data  
 available

there#s fso-gpsd, a compatibility layer that allow legacy gpsd-interfaced  
applications to run with fso

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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-31 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 31 August 2008, Valerio Valerio wrote:
 This not help :). I need the all service record,  The --xml switch works
 fine in all my computers (ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04).
 Can you send me the hcidump output during a keyboard paring  process ? (the
 records are exchanged in the process)

On gentoo it's provided by bluez-utils-2.25-r1 and I get:
$ sdptool records --xml macaddr
records: unrecognized option `--xml'
Usage:
records [--tree] [--raw] bdaddr
It looks like these give more data:

$ sdptool records --tree macaddr
Attribute Identifier : 0x0 - ServiceRecordHandle
  Integer : 0x1
Attribute Identifier : 0x1 - ServiceClassIDList
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x1124 - HumanInterfaceDeviceService (HID)
Attribute Identifier : 0x4 - ProtocolDescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x0100 - L2CAP
  Channel/Port (Integer) : 0x11
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x0011 - HIDP
Attribute Identifier : 0x5 - BrowseGroupList
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x1002 - PublicBrowseGroup
Attribute Identifier : 0x6 - LanguageBaseAttributeIDList
  Data Sequence
Code ISO639 (Integer) : 0x656e
Encoding (Integer) : 0x6a
Base Offset (Integer) : 0x100
Attribute Identifier : 0x9 - BluetoothProfileDescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x1124 - HumanInterfaceDeviceService (HID)
  Version (Integer) : 0x100
Attribute Identifier : 0xd - AdditionalProtocolDescriptorLists
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x0100 - L2CAP
Integer : 0x13
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x0011 - HIDP
Attribute Identifier : 0x100
  Text : Broadcom Bluetooth Demo Keyboard
Attribute Identifier : 0x101
  Text : Keyboard
Attribute Identifier : 0x102
  Text : Broadcom Corp.
Attribute Identifier : 0x200 - DeviceReleaseNum
  Integer : 0x100
Attribute Identifier : 0x201 - ParserVersion
  Integer : 0x111
Attribute Identifier : 0x202 - DeviceSubclass
  Integer : 0x40
Attribute Identifier : 0x203 - CountryCode
  Integer : 0x33
Attribute Identifier : 0x204 - VirtualCable
  Integer : 0x1
Attribute Identifier : 0x205 - ReconnectInitiate
  Integer : 0x1
Attribute Identifier : 0x206 - DescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  Integer : 0x22
  Data : 05 01 09 06 a1 01 85 01 05 07 19 e0 29 e7 15 00 25 01 75 01 95 08 
81 02 95 01 75 08 81 01 95 05 75 01 05 08 19 01 29 05 91 02 95 01 75 03 91 01 
95 06 75 08 15 00 25 65 05 07 19 00 29 65 81 00 c0 05 0c 09 01 a1 01 85 02 19 
00 29 ff 15 00 25 ff 75 08 95 01 81 00 c0 05 0c 09 01 a1 01 85 05 05 01 09 06 
a1 02 05 06 09 20 15 00 25 ff 75 08 95 08 81 00 09 20 15 00 25 ff 75 08 95 08 
b1 00 c0 05 0c 09 01 a1 01 85 06 19 00 29 fe 15 00 25 ff 75 08 95 02 81 00 c0 
c0
Attribute Identifier : 0x207 - LangIDBaseList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  Integer : 0x309
  Integer : 0x100
Attribute Identifier : 0x20b - ProfileVersion
  Integer : 0x100
Attribute Identifier : 0x20d - NormallyConnectable
  Integer : 0x0
Attribute Identifier : 0x20e - BootDevice
  Integer : 0x1

Attribute Identifier : 0x0 - ServiceRecordHandle
  Integer : 0x10001
Attribute Identifier : 0x1 - ServiceClassIDList
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x1200 - PnPInformation
Attribute Identifier : 0x4 - ProtocolDescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x0100 - L2CAP
  Channel/Port (Integer) : 0x1
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x0001 - SDP
Attribute Identifier : 0x9 - BluetoothProfileDescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x1200 - PnPInformation
  Version (Integer) : 0x100
Attribute Identifier : 0x200 - SpecificationID
  Integer : 0x100
Attribute Identifier : 0x201 - VendorID
  Integer : 0xa5c
Attribute Identifier : 0x202 - ProductID
  Integer : 0x2001
Attribute Identifier : 0x203 - Version
  Integer : 0x107
Attribute Identifier : 0x204 - PrimaryRecord
  Integer : 0x1
Attribute Identifier : 0x205 - VendorIDSource
  Integer : 0x2

$ sdptool records --raw macaddr
Sequence
Attribute 0x - ServiceRecordHandle
UINT32 0x0001
Attribute 0x0001 - ServiceClassIDList
Sequence
UUID16 0x1124 - HumanInterfaceDeviceService (HID)
Attribute 0x0004 - ProtocolDescriptorList
Sequence
Sequence
UUID16 0x0100 - L2CAP
UINT16 0x0011
Sequence
UUID16 0x0011 - HIDP
Attribute 0x0005 - BrowseGroupList
Sequence
UUID16 0x1002 - PublicBrowseGroup
Attribute 0x0006 - LanguageBaseAttributeIDList
Sequence
UINT16 0x656e
UINT16 0x006a
UINT16 0x0100
Attribute 0x0009 - BluetoothProfileDescriptorList
Sequence
Sequence
UUID16 0x1124 - 

Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 potentially solved

2008-08-31 Thread Patrick Beck
Hello Lorn,

Will it be possible to get a package on a normal qtopia, to install it
via opkg on the 4.3 Release?

with kind regards 

Patrick

Am Freitag, den 29.08.2008, 20:31 +1000 schrieb Lorn Potter:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Florian,
  
  Florian Hackenberger wrote:
  I'll cook up a patch to Qtopia-X11, but for the impatient here are some 
  instructions for installing gsm0710muxd on Om2008.08 and injecting the 
  
  Will this patch make it upstream? 
 
 It will be in 4.4 yes. I haven't yet put it in 4.3.x snapshots.




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illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates

2008-08-31 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Is it possible to run the opkg install for this?

I do not have the testing repository setup (yet).  I have been sticking with
the default opkg repositories for 2008.8-updates.

I could enable it and update, upgrade, and then install the
*illume-config-illume,
but I'm worried I will just end up having to reimage...*
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Re: illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates

2008-08-31 Thread Yorick Moko
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to run the opkg install for this?

 I do not have the testing repository setup (yet).  I have been sticking with
 the default opkg repositories for 2008.8-updates.

 I could enable it and update, upgrade, and then install the
 illume-config-illume, but I'm worried I will just end up having to
 reimage...
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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-08-31 Thread Valerio Valerio
2008/8/31 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sunday 31 August 2008, Valerio Valerio wrote:
  This not help :). I need the all service record,  The --xml switch works
  fine in all my computers (ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04).
  Can you send me the hcidump output during a keyboard paring  process ?
 (the
  records are exchanged in the process)

 On gentoo it's provided by bluez-utils-2.25-r1 and I get:
 $ sdptool records --xml macaddr
 records: unrecognized option `--xml'
 Usage:
records [--tree] [--raw] bdaddr
 It looks like these give more data:

 $ sdptool records --tree macaddr
 Attribute Identifier : 0x0 - ServiceRecordHandle
  Integer : 0x1
 Attribute Identifier : 0x1 - ServiceClassIDList
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x1124 - HumanInterfaceDeviceService (HID)
 Attribute Identifier : 0x4 - ProtocolDescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x0100 - L2CAP
  Channel/Port (Integer) : 0x11
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x0011 - HIDP
 Attribute Identifier : 0x5 - BrowseGroupList
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x1002 - PublicBrowseGroup
 Attribute Identifier : 0x6 - LanguageBaseAttributeIDList
  Data Sequence
Code ISO639 (Integer) : 0x656e
Encoding (Integer) : 0x6a
Base Offset (Integer) : 0x100
 Attribute Identifier : 0x9 - BluetoothProfileDescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x1124 - HumanInterfaceDeviceService (HID)
  Version (Integer) : 0x100
 Attribute Identifier : 0xd - AdditionalProtocolDescriptorLists
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x0100 - L2CAP
Integer : 0x13
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x0011 - HIDP
 Attribute Identifier : 0x100
  Text : Broadcom Bluetooth Demo Keyboard
 Attribute Identifier : 0x101
  Text : Keyboard
 Attribute Identifier : 0x102
  Text : Broadcom Corp.
 Attribute Identifier : 0x200 - DeviceReleaseNum
  Integer : 0x100
 Attribute Identifier : 0x201 - ParserVersion
  Integer : 0x111
 Attribute Identifier : 0x202 - DeviceSubclass
  Integer : 0x40
 Attribute Identifier : 0x203 - CountryCode
  Integer : 0x33
 Attribute Identifier : 0x204 - VirtualCable
  Integer : 0x1
 Attribute Identifier : 0x205 - ReconnectInitiate
  Integer : 0x1
 Attribute Identifier : 0x206 - DescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  Integer : 0x22
  Data : 05 01 09 06 a1 01 85 01 05 07 19 e0 29 e7 15 00 25 01 75 01 95
 08
 81 02 95 01 75 08 81 01 95 05 75 01 05 08 19 01 29 05 91 02 95 01 75 03 91
 01
 95 06 75 08 15 00 25 65 05 07 19 00 29 65 81 00 c0 05 0c 09 01 a1 01 85 02
 19
 00 29 ff 15 00 25 ff 75 08 95 01 81 00 c0 05 0c 09 01 a1 01 85 05 05 01 09
 06
 a1 02 05 06 09 20 15 00 25 ff 75 08 95 08 81 00 09 20 15 00 25 ff 75 08 95
 08
 b1 00 c0 05 0c 09 01 a1 01 85 06 19 00 29 fe 15 00 25 ff 75 08 95 02 81 00
 c0
 c0
 Attribute Identifier : 0x207 - LangIDBaseList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  Integer : 0x309
  Integer : 0x100
 Attribute Identifier : 0x20b - ProfileVersion
  Integer : 0x100
 Attribute Identifier : 0x20d - NormallyConnectable
  Integer : 0x0
 Attribute Identifier : 0x20e - BootDevice
  Integer : 0x1

 Attribute Identifier : 0x0 - ServiceRecordHandle
  Integer : 0x10001
 Attribute Identifier : 0x1 - ServiceClassIDList
  Data Sequence
UUID16 : 0x1200 - PnPInformation
 Attribute Identifier : 0x4 - ProtocolDescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x0100 - L2CAP
  Channel/Port (Integer) : 0x1
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x0001 - SDP
 Attribute Identifier : 0x9 - BluetoothProfileDescriptorList
  Data Sequence
Data Sequence
  UUID16 : 0x1200 - PnPInformation
  Version (Integer) : 0x100
 Attribute Identifier : 0x200 - SpecificationID
  Integer : 0x100
 Attribute Identifier : 0x201 - VendorID
  Integer : 0xa5c
 Attribute Identifier : 0x202 - ProductID
  Integer : 0x2001
 Attribute Identifier : 0x203 - Version
  Integer : 0x107
 Attribute Identifier : 0x204 - PrimaryRecord
  Integer : 0x1
 Attribute Identifier : 0x205 - VendorIDSource
  Integer : 0x2

 $ sdptool records --raw macaddr
 Sequence
Attribute 0x - ServiceRecordHandle
UINT32 0x0001
Attribute 0x0001 - ServiceClassIDList
Sequence
UUID16 0x1124 - HumanInterfaceDeviceService (HID)
Attribute 0x0004 - ProtocolDescriptorList
Sequence
Sequence
UUID16 0x0100 - L2CAP
UINT16 0x0011
Sequence
UUID16 0x0011 - HIDP
Attribute 0x0005 - BrowseGroupList
Sequence
UUID16 0x1002 - PublicBrowseGroup
Attribute 0x0006 - LanguageBaseAttributeIDList
Sequence
UINT16 0x656e
UINT16 0x006a
UINT16 0x0100
Attribute 0x0009 - BluetoothProfileDescriptorList
Sequence
 

Re: GsmBluetooth state file for gta02

2008-08-31 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
Jim Morris escreveu:
 Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:
 Jim Morris escreveu:
 One thing that may help, is if someone could provide a mapping of the 
 wolfson registers as documented in the WM8753L pdf to the alsa 
 controls. Someone had to have written the code that twiddles the 
 registers in that chip, and would know which also control matches 
 which register.
 That would be sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c and 
 sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c on the kernel source code. Take 
 a look:

 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/codecs/wm8753.c;hb=stable
  

 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c;hb=stable
  


 The mapping is there, you only have to find out how it's described.

 
 Thanks for the pointers. Thats 2,000 lines of code that is about as clear as 
 mud! (and I've written 
 audio drivers before).
 
 There is no mention of Bluetooth in these drivers, and no indication how to 
 switch into bluetooth mode.

That's because the Bluetooth is in another chip. For that, you need the 
full schematics:

http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf

The very first diagram (page 2) shows how the chips fit together. There 
you can see how the bluetooth chip is connected to the codec: the PCM 
pins. There seems to be a comment saying something about BT Codec DAI 
on neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c, which seems related.

So, you just need to find out:

- How to switch bluetooth audio I/O to these PCM pins (should be 
something in the HCI-USB standard).
- How to route within the codec between the PCM pins and the pins which 
are connected to the GSM chip (these pins are also shown in the diagram).

A possible hint: back when trying to find out why the GTA01 used too 
much power when off, we had to find how to turn off the audio amp 
(another chip). I saw a concept called a scenario, which is some sort 
of predefined audio routing on the kernel. So perhaps you just have to 
find the correct scenario and how to select it. On neo1973_wm8753.c, 
it's the Neo Mode control; for some very strange reason, there's no 
equivalent on neo1973_gta02_wm8753.c, however the defines are still 
there in the top of the file!

 I really don't see how we are supposed to figure this stuff out, without any 
 help from Openmoko. 

With the schematics. That's one of the reasons they were released. With 
them, the detailed datasheet for the chips, and the kernel source code, 
you can do a lot.

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Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-31 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
 We want to let the community join and give commit rights to individuals. In 
 the OpenWRT world they are able to give commit rights to single packages but 
 they use SVN. Is that possible with git as well ?
since noone followed up I will add my .1 cents:

I don't know if a fine-grained control is possible to allow which user
could modify which subdirectories. BUT there is a way to control what
user is allowed to advance which head -- ie which branch could be
modified by which user.

See
http://developer.berlios.de/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1812group_id=2#access
for the description of such setup.

I guess if you are to have relatively large number of allowed users and
lack of a person who would be responsible for merging per-person
branches, the easiest way is just to create .community branches
(e.g.  ...asu.dev.community), to which add permission to commute to a
set of community members.

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Re: Is it possible to netboot a FreeRunner?

2008-08-31 Thread Jan Keymeulen
On Sun 31 August 2008 om 16:38:17 GMT Al Johnson told us:
 On Sunday 31 August 2008, Jan Keymeulen wrote:
  On Sun 31 August 2008 om 14:30:11 GMT Al Johnson told us:
   On Saturday 30 August 2008, Andreas Zuber wrote:
Am Samstag 30 August 2008 10:06:01 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen:
 Hi,

 I just got a strange idea into my head. So I'll ask a possibly silly
 question:

 Is it possble to netboot a Neo FreeRunner? Can you netboot at all
 over usb? Does uboot have netbot support?
   
I know uboot from an other embedded system, where it was installed, and
it is able to download a kernel from a tftp server to the memory. This
is done by the tftpboot command.
There is also a dhcp command so uboot can get an ip for the network.
   
But i dont know if uboot can handle the usb as a network device.
Someone has already tried this?
  
   I think it can be done, but you will now need a custom kernel. When
   moving the USB ethernet gadget driver from built-in to module Andy Green
   (IIRC) mentioned that someone needed it builtin for netbooting with
   rootfs on NFS.
 
  Booting with rootfs on nfs != netbooting.
 
  Netbooting gets a kernel from a tftpserver, while rootfs on nfs requires
  a kernel already loaded. The problem here is that it's uncertain whether
  uboot can handle the usb network interface (or wireless or bluetooth).
 
 I know the distinction well as I netboot diskless workstations, but my 
 recollection of the exchange is that someone _was_ netbooting. Looking back 
 at the thread I may have been reading things into it due to my experience 
 netbooting a Neuros OSD, as the boot method isn't explicitly mentioned. 
 Andy's last comment suggests it may not be supported, but judge for yourself 
 starting about half way through this thread:
 
 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td641300

I don't see anyone mentioning that he's netbooting his freerunner, just
rootfs on nfs.

U-boot docs mention only a few network chipsets on which it supports 
netbooting. Usb is only supported for keyboards, floppies or serial consoles.

So unless someone writes a usb/bluetooth/wireless driver for uboot, I don't
think netbooting can be done. 

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Re: Cpoying image to internal flash

2008-08-31 Thread Dale Maggee
William Kenworthy wrote:
 I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable.  Before
 I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card,
 is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself?

 BillK

   
Bill,

Care to define almost usable a little more thoroughly?

my two major questions being:
1. does it register on the GSM network properly? usable as a phone?
2. What doesn't work?

Cheers,
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Mofi on FR

2008-08-31 Thread Katrin Tomanek

Hi, 

I wanted to test mofi today to get my WIFI running. So, I installed mofi as
explained in the wiki (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mofi, installation
through opkg).

When starting mofi from a terminal, I get the following error:

 snip 

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/mofi/mofi_gui.py, line 30, in module
import gtk
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 82,
in module
init()
NameError: name 'init' is not defined

 snap 

Any hints? What's wrong here?

cheers,
Katrin
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Re: Mofi on FR

2008-08-31 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Katrin Tomanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to test mofi today to get my WIFI running. So, I installed mofi as
 explained in the wiki (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mofi, installation
 through opkg).

 When starting mofi from a terminal, I get the following error:

  snip 

 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/mofi/mofi_gui.py, line 30, in module
import gtk
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 82,
 in module
init()
 NameError: name 'init' is not defined

  snap 

 Any hints? What's wrong here?

Edit the file /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py
and change the call to init() to _init()

HTH!

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Re: Cpoying image to internal flash

2008-08-31 Thread Alasal

Please define almost usable. I use the om2008.8 and I'm happy with it. It has
some limitations, but I can live with it. But ofcourse if the unstable
2008.9 is more stable than om2008.8, I would love to 2008.9.

So therefor some questions about the usability:
- Can you connect to wifi, then disconnect, go into suspend, go out of
suspend and reconnect?
- Can you go into suspend, go out of suspend and connect the usb and ping to
it?
- Does it take also 10 sec before you here the ring of someone calling?


William Kenworthy wrote:
 
 I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable.  Before
 I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card,
 is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself?
 
 BillK
 
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Re: OM2008.8, GPRS using multiplexing and GUI for Vodafone Live! in Mumbai

2008-08-31 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 I am going by the instructions here:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI

 I have installed the gsm0710muxd and everything seems to have gone fine.
 Now, using the Services GUI, I am not able to get GPRS working.  First, the
 settings I have for my connection

 user:
 password:
 (both are supposed to be blank)
 APN: portalnmms
 Primary gateway IP: 10.10.1.100
 Port:9401

 On my FR, my /etc/ppp/pap-secrets and /etc/ppp/chap-secrets now read like
 this:

 # clientserver  secret  IP addresses
 * * *

 The last line of my /etc/ppp/peers/gprs file reads
 user *

 (should this be user  or user * ?)

 as advised here:
 http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295 (replaced
 PUT_USERNAME_IN_HERE)

 I'm using *99# as the default dial number, as it isn't clear what Vodafone
 Live! uses in Mumbai, India.

 Ross Barkman (http://www.taniwha.org.uk/gprs.html) says the settings
 should be user: guest, secret: guest.  However, it doesn't seem accurate.

 I don't know whether the gateway IP is to be inserted in the routing table,
 and if so, how the port is to be specified.  From the first couple of
 attempts with the scripts and GUI, GPRS seemed to work but actually it
 didn't.  Now, I only get a FAILED status report in the GUI.

 Can anybody tell me if I need to modify the pap/chap-secret files, or the
 gprs file, or the dialled number?  If this starts to work, I can start using
 the FR as my daytime (office only) phone plus the GPS.


OK, got GPRS to work.  I was reading a GPRS HowTo somewhere, and realized
that I only had to comment out the
user PUT_USERNAME_IN_HERE field in /etc/ppp/peers/gprs.

The scripts now work, and I can get GPRS running in two-three attempts.  The
gateway address 10.10.1.100:9401 can be declared as the http_proxy (and
HTTP_PROXY) address in environment variables, and specified in your
favourite browser when on GPRS.

The settings above are valid for Vodafone Live! GPRS Mumbai India.  Just for
the record.
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OM2008.8, sound not working after resume from suspend

2008-08-31 Thread Nishit Dave
I know this has been said ad nauseam, but now I have a real reason to
complain.  Please standby for a little horror story: my little daughter got
lost in a busy mall, and I had made the mistake of only carrying my FR
along.  Now the mall's administration was calling me up after getting my
number from her, but I could not talk to them as the phone had been in
suspend mode when the call came in.  Luckily my wife's mobile was working so
we managed to call back, and were put on hold for some time before we got
our daughter.

An hour later, by chance, my wife and I got separated somehow (holding one
child each) and I lost the signal as I entered the basement.  I went back
upstairs looking for her, and the FR seemed to be registered to the network,
but neither calls nor sms were working.  A restart and 10 minutes of waiting
later, I was back to square one.  No sound even some time after
registration, but sms saved the day.

Later in the night, I had put the phone on suspend as I was driving.  I
checked with the home phone, again no sound!  So I have now put the FR in
the cooler as I will be traveling for more than a week, and can't risk
missed calls.

Now here's the bottom line: OM should either resolve the
suspend-resume-sound issue, or give us a way in which the screen can be both
blanked and locked.  The current design 'feature' that a screen-locked phone
cannot be blanked is really, well, unfortunate.
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Re: prediction feature for the keyboard

2008-08-31 Thread Fredrik Wendt
sön 2008-08-31 klockan 15:09 +0200 skrev Björn Martensen:
 Hi,
 
 [...] Is it somehow possible to get the likelyness of the next letter to be
 written (and even the ones after that, es dasher even recognizes words)
 from dasher and use this information to dynamically change the size of
 the input areas?
[...]
 
 What do you think about this idea?

It might work. The downside is that with a fixed sized key setup
you'll learn how far to extend your fingers to hit a specific key. The
fifth time you write internet you'll know where to put your fingers
(muscle/motoric memory) and hitting the s in interns is close to e. Bad
example but I think you get what I'm after. The user might have a harder
time learning where to push to hit a specific letter.

Don't know if that's realistic at all, I guess your suggestion really is
a good idea in most cases. :)


Another idea:
I'd love to tap morse code on the phone's shell/casing and use the mic
(the accelerometers oscillates to much to be usable for this I think) to
interpret it into letters. :-D

Just my 0.02 SEK

/ Fredrik


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Re: Mofi on FR

2008-08-31 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Christ van Willegen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Katrin Tomanek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I wanted to test mofi today to get my WIFI running. So, I installed mofi
 as
  explained in the wiki (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mofi, installation
  through opkg).
 
  When starting mofi from a terminal, I get the following error:
 
   snip 
 
  Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/lib/mofi/mofi_gui.py, line 30, in module
 import gtk
   File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line
 82,
  in module
 init()
  NameError: name 'init' is not defined
 
   snap 
 
  Any hints? What's wrong here?

 Edit the file /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py
 and change the call to init() to _init()

 HTH!

 Why doesn't somebody fix the charmed file in the repos?  This change has
also been recommended in the GPRS with GSM Multiplexing and GUI subsection
on the wiki.  What happens in a real-world scenario is people trying to use
vi on the phone's tiny screen estate, standing around wifi hotspots, if they
know they have to change init() to _init().  Finding line 82 is very
difficult unless you are a vi wizard.  The tiny letters on the keyboard (and
that's hoping it is raster's kbd, not the original one) make it even worse.
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Re: prediction feature for the keyboard

2008-08-31 Thread Fredrik Wendt
sön 2008-08-31 klockan 19:49 +0200 skrev Fredrik Wendt:
[...]

What I'd LOVE would be to use the entire screen as a keyboard (in
landscape mode). A soft layer with low opacity containing only white
letters and almost nothing more.

http://wendt.se/software/openmoko/screens/keyboard-layer.png is quick a
mockup of what I had in mind.

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2008.8: Enlightenment crashing at bootup after upgrade

2008-08-31 Thread Thomas Köckerbauer
Hi

Sorry that I'm not replying in the thread, but I don't have the original mail 
anymore.

I have the same problem, since I updated today enlightenment crashes with 
SIGSEV every time when it starts (I can see the gadget icons, but the 
application icons do not yet show up).
I've installed the debug version, attached a debugger and got the backtrace of 
the segfault, here it is:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x404e1ce4 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) bt
#0  0x404e1ce4 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x404b3400 in _IO_vfprintf_internal (s=0xbe9ece80, 
format=0x400f6488 %s %s %s, ap=value optimized out) at vfprintf.c:1568
#2  0x404d43d8 in _IO_vsnprintf (string=0xbe9ecfa8 hicolor battery , 
maxlen=4096, format=0x400f6488 %s %s %s, args=0xbe9ecf9c)
at vsnprintf.c:120
#3  0x404b9fd0 in __snprintf (s=0x30 Address 0x30 out of bounds, maxlen=48, 
format=0x19aaf8 battery) at snprintf.c:35
#4  0x400ea264 in efreet_icon_path_find (theme_name=0x11a248 hicolor, 
icon=0x19aaf8 battery, size=0x30 Address 0x30 out of bounds)
at efreet_icon.c:342
#5  0x0005f060 in e_util_icon_theme_icon_add ()
#6  0x000ad018 in e_fm2_icon_get ()
#7  0x000ad5d4 in _e_fm2_icon_icon_direct_set ()
#8  0x000adc44 in _e_fm2_icon_realize ()
#9  0x000addac in _e_fm2_regions_eval ()
#10 0x000ae008 in _e_fm2_regions_populate ()
#11 0x000ae158 in _e_fm2_cb_resize_job ()
#12 0x400947f8 in _ecore_job_event_handler () from /usr/lib/libecore_job.so.0
#13 0x404204a0 in _ecore_event_call () from /usr/lib/libecore.so.0
#14 0x40426fa8 in _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal () 
from /usr/lib/libecore.so.0
#15 0x4042701c in ecore_main_loop_begin () from /usr/lib/libecore.so.0
#16 0x00029b78 in main ()

I did not have a closer look yet, but maybe raster already has an idea ;)


Cheers,
Thomas

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Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-08-31 Thread Daniel Selinger

 Please apply.

When can we expect this fix in the various distros?

When will it be in 2008.8-update, zecke, qtopia stock and FSO.

Statements of people involved into that highly appreciated ;)

rgds daniel

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Lemmings

2008-08-31 Thread Jean-Eric Cuendet
Hi,
Do you know a Lemmings clne for Linux?
Would it work on Openmoko?
Thanks
-jec
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Re: prediction feature for the keyboard

2008-08-31 Thread Yorick Moko
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What I'd LOVE would be to use the entire screen as a keyboard (in
 landscape mode). A soft layer with low opacity containing only white
 letters and almost nothing more.

 http://wendt.se/software/openmoko/screens/keyboard-layer.png is quick a
 mockup of what I had in mind.

I like your idea! Colors will need some tweaking for different
backgrounds of course but it seems feasable to me.
But why only in landscape? Landscape will indeed be better suitable
for it, but let's not exclude portrait mode.

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