Re: RSS feed for changelog of stable in git - Was: Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ? - Was: Re: Repository and Images

2008-09-04 Thread roguemoko
Olivier Berger wrote:
 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 Julian Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:06:07AM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote:
   
 Is there a changelog of bugs fixed somewhere ?

   
is the git log helps you?
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=log;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable

   
 Great.

 Would it be possible to have GITweb upgraded / patched
 (http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/archives/git/0511/11378.html maybe) so
 that RSS feeds can be output for heads ?

 Something like
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=rss;h=org.openmoko.asu.stable
 would definitely rock... but at the moment it only gives the same
 thing as http://git.openmoko.org/?p=openmoko.git;a=rss :(

 

 I've hacked something quickly (using http://bent.latency.net/git2rss
 as a base) to produce such an RSS feed :
 http://www.olivierberger.com/openmoko-200808-stable.xml

 Btw, looks like some systematic bug # in the changelog of commits made
 to git would reassure us on the contents of the stable updates ;)

 Any comments welcome.

 Best regards,
   
Nice :) ... and thanks.

Sarton

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Re: ASU keyboards, again

2008-09-04 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:58:26 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 I was wondering... Why not adding a special option under dictionaries 
 not to use a dictionary at all and disabling the spell check while 
 writing? I know that the same can do editing the keyboards file, but you 
 can figure that this is quite annoying if you'd like to have more 
 keyboard layouts and you should rewrite them not to use the spell 
 check correction.
 
 just use the Terminal layout then. as such the dictionary lookup ALWAYS gives
 you exactly what you typed too as an option (even if you didn't hold and press
 to drag and select in zoom mode). it may not be listed as the most likely 
 thing
 - so press the dict button, but it will LEARN so after you have entered the
 things you do use once - they will turn up.

Yes, I know but it's not as rapid as writing directly each word...

PS: BTW looking at my ~/.e/e/dicts-dynamic there are some words that are 
repeated more time (and they have a different number of occurrences too).

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gcc for Native compilation on Openmoko

2008-09-04 Thread Masoom Alam
Hi Every one,

I am a new bie playing arround openmoko. I was wondering that no gcc is
available `on native openmoko platform. Can any body point out that is there
has been some efforts in this regard, and point me out a link.

Regards,
MM Alam
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Re: gcc for Native compilation on Openmoko

2008-09-04 Thread yves mahe
Masoom Alam wrote:
 Hi Every one,
 
 I am a new bie playing arround openmoko. I was wondering that no gcc is 
 available `on native openmoko platform. Can any body point out that is 
 there has been some efforts in this regard, and point me out a link.
 
By default, it's not the function of a mobile phone to compile programs. 
  So a lot of current Linux utilities have been dropped to fit in the 
Flash memory.

To install gcc :

opkg install gcc

Maybe you will need to install also :

opkg install make gcc-symlinks cpp

Regards
Yves Mahe


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Re: Several stacks on one card

2008-09-04 Thread gromez
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:04 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello, I am going to buy a new microSD card. I want to install Debian,
 Qtopia and whatever other image appeals me.

 Is it possible to make a dual-boot in the card?

 Something like first a selecting if you boot the flash or the card, and
 later wich partition in the card you boot.

 Have I explained me?

Everything is explained on the wiki (partitionning, u-boot entries, ...)
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD

Hope this helps

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Re: gcc for Native compilation on Openmoko

2008-09-04 Thread Masoom Alam
I got the following errors:

Nothing to be done
An error ocurred, return value: 4.
Collected errors:
Cannot find package make.
Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
Cannot find package gcc-symlinks.
Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
Cannot find package cpp.
Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'


Any clue?

Regards,
MM Alam

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:20 PM, yves mahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Masoom Alam wrote:
  Hi Every one,
 
  I am a new bie playing arround openmoko. I was wondering that no gcc is
  available `on native openmoko platform. Can any body point out that is
  there has been some efforts in this regard, and point me out a link.
 
 By default, it's not the function of a mobile phone to compile programs.
  So a lot of current Linux utilities have been dropped to fit in the
 Flash memory.

 To install gcc :

 opkg install gcc

 Maybe you will need to install also :

 opkg install make gcc-symlinks cpp

 Regards
 Yves Mahe


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Re: gcc for Native compilation on Openmoko

2008-09-04 Thread yves mahe
Masoom Alam wrote:
 I got the following errors:
 
 Nothing to be done
 An error ocurred, return value: 4.
 Collected errors:
 Cannot find package make.
 Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
 Cannot find package gcc-symlinks.
 Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
 Cannot find package cpp.
 Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
 
 
 Any clue?

Did you try 'opkg update' ?

You need to have the good feeds in /etc/opkg depending on your software 
version.

See
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Package_management
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Installer#How_to_add_a_Repository_.3F

Hope this helps


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Re: Several stacks on one card

2008-09-04 Thread Sander van Grieken
 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:04 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello, I am going to buy a new microSD card. I want to install Debian,
 Qtopia and whatever other image appeals me.

 Is it possible to make a dual-boot in the card?

 Something like first a selecting if you boot the flash or the card, and
 later wich partition in the card you boot.

 Have I explained me?

 Everything is explained on the wiki (partitionning, u-boot entries, ...)
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD

I have created 2 ext2 partitions on the SD for both ASU and FSO, and modified 
the uboot
menu to boot their kernels directly from ext2 (so no need for a separate FAT 
partition).

Something I noticed is that these partitions have to be in the beginning of the 
SD card.
I wasn't able to boot from partitions starting at the 7GB mark.

This reminds me of the old BIOS limitations on PCs and I didn't expect that to 
be the
case on the freerunner :)

I don't know the exact bootable boundary, but with two partitions of 256M at the
beginning of the SD card I can boot into both ext2 filesystems.

Anyway, I used this u-boot menu on the NAND:

menu_1=
  Boot from microSD (FSO/partition 1):
  setenv bootargs
${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=5
${mtdparts} ro;
  mmcinit;
  ext2load mmc MMC_NUM:1 0x3200 /boot/uImage;
  bootm 0x3200

menu_2=
  Boot from microSD (OpenMoko/partition 2):
  setenv bootargs
${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
${mtdparts} ro;
  mmcinit;
  ext2load mmc MMC_NUM:2 0x3200 /boot/uImage;
  bootm 0x3200


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Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-09-04 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Thanks for posting the fixed one, I pushed it into the examples
directory.

Cheers,

Mickey.



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Re: No GSM 2008.08 testing

2008-09-04 Thread Erin Yueh
Ilja O. wrote:
 I've received Freerunner and istalled testing daily build today.
 
 Same error here.
 
 Also, it's nice that no package depends on 
 qtopia-phone-x11-composer-emailcomposer, 
 qtopia-phone-x11-composer-genericcomposer, 
 qtopia-phone-x11-composer-mmscomposer, 
 qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-genericviewer, 
 qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-smilviewer. At least not qtopia mail and dialer. 
 It was truly linux-way quest to discover theese application (caller and 
 mailer) need in those libraries.
 
 
 
 
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hi,

did you update any package? or just flash with a testing daily build?
this image 
'http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2'?

also, you can use ssh to Freerunner and type 'logread', it would display 
all log information. Try to find 'AT+COPS=0' command, and check what CME 
error code you get.

Cheers,
Erin

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Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip

2008-09-04 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:48 +1000 schrieb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 How's the core functionality looking? Milestone 2 looked great but I had 
 some real issues doing more than one thing without something locking up 
 are being troublesome.

This is 99% the problem of the Zhone UI. I have hardly any resources to
push this further -- and even if I could, it would need to be actually
designed from scratch rather than hacked together as it is now.

I'm afraid we have to wait someone coming up with a solid UI on top of
this framework -- at least the lower layers we now can rely on.

:M:


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Re: Time and Timezone issues...

2008-09-04 Thread Harald Koenig
On Sep 04, Rod Whitby wrote:

 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
  better not set TZ but do once (once after every update/upgrade?!):
 
 cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Rome /etc/localtime
 
 Even better to make that a symlink, then if your city ever changes it's
 daylight savings rule, then you will automatically get the update.

down side of symlinks (and hard links too, like used in some PC linux distro):  

if some other script or tool does a 

 cp some-holiday-timezone-file /etc/localtime

then you'll trash the original home zone timezone file:-(


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

2008-09-04 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin

did someone manage to get the xfce-battery-plugin working properly?
when i include it in the panel i always get a warning my battery is  
at 0% - what definitly is not the case.

it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?

regards, morlac


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[Qtopia 4.3.3] Changing profiles makes FR crash

2008-09-04 Thread yann . sladek
Hi,

I'm running the latest Qtopia update (9/2/08) and I've got a problem changing 
profiles
When I'm using general profile and want to switch to silent profile, the FR UI 
crashes and I have to reboot it (it's a GTA02v5).
Is someone having the same problem ? 
How I can I get logs about that ?

Regards,

Yann


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

2008-09-04 Thread Fox Mulder
Why don't you just use the selfmade openmoko-panel-plugin which also
displays the battery status?

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin
 
 did someone manage to get the xfce-battery-plugin working properly?
 when i include it in the panel i always get a warning my battery is  
 at 0% - what definitly is not the case.
 
 it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?
 
 regards, morlac
 
 
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

2008-09-04 Thread arne anka
 it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?

the plugin does -- fso does not.
the plugin relies on apmd which is not used in fso and, as known, produces  
issues when running.
since it is far bigger than the corresponding battery symbol, you're  
better off with the om-panel-plugin.

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Re: [2008.08] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

2008-09-04 Thread arne anka
 Now on 2008.08 I cannot found the same kind of option... does someone
 know how I can configure this using a terminal ?

this is usually achieved by prefixing the number you dial with one of  
these *foo# codes -- ask your provider or search the net for a list of  
those.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

2008-09-04 Thread Christian Adams
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i allready use the openmoko-panel-plugin (and extendet it a bit) but  
it doesn't provide options to run scripts on certain battery-levels  
(shut down fr when battery crtitical for example) yet. i am planning  
to extend the openmoko-panel-plugin that way but till i (or someone  
else) does so ..

i wanted to use xfce-battery-plugin cause i think (not really checked  
yet) it has a smaller mem-footprint ..

maybe i get time to implement my ideas on upcoming weekend ..

ciao,
morlac (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Morlac)

p.s. i would also extend om-panel-plugin to provide a window to  
choose charging-mode

Am 04.09.2008 um 11:58 schrieb Fox Mulder:

 Why don't you just use the selfmade openmoko-panel-plugin which also
 displays the battery status?

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Christian Adams wrote:
 moinmoin

 did someone manage to get the xfce-battery-plugin working properly?
 when i include it in the panel i always get a warning my battery is
 at 0% - what definitly is not the case.

 it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?

 regards, morlac

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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread flamma
 Anyway, from where have you got this information?

From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
player. I think it's called try and error in english.


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Re: Several stacks on one card

2008-09-04 Thread flamma


 Everything is explained on the wiki (partitionning, u-boot entries, ...)
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD

 Hope this helps


Sure. Sorry for asking something that is on the wiki. First time I read
this page I was a bit confused.


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Re: Several stacks on one card

2008-09-04 Thread flamma

 Something I noticed is that these partitions have to be in the beginning
 of the SD card.
 I wasn't able to boot from partitions starting at the 7GB mark.

I expect not to have done it bad, since I partitioned :
1 boot partition 1
2 rootfs partition 1
3 boot partition 2
4 rootfs partition 2

Anyway, we're still at time for repartitioning.

 Anyway, I used this u-boot menu on the NAND:
[...]

That's usefule! Thank you, I will use that to get an idea of what I have
to write.


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[qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

2008-09-04 Thread dorje
Hi all!

I installed Qtopia Desktop but I cannot connect to the freerunner.
The message is:

Could not connect to the Qtopia device.

I can connect to my freerunner via ssh and I put the correct
IP address on Qtopia Desktop settings.

Is Qtopia Desktop supposed to work with the freerunner?

Thanks... :)


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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

2008-09-04 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/9/4 dorje [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi all!

 I installed Qtopia Desktop but I cannot connect to the freerunner.
 The message is:

 Could not connect to the Qtopia device.

 I can connect to my freerunner via ssh and I put the correct
 IP address on Qtopia Desktop settings.

 Is Qtopia Desktop supposed to work with the freerunner?

 Thanks... :)


I have the same problem
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Re: German for Qtopia

2008-09-04 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/9/4 Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hey Sven,

 as far as word prediction is concerned:

 cp the en_EN directory to _en_EN,
 mv en_EN to de_DE
 ln de_De to en_EN
 replace de_DE/words.dwag with:

 http://www.file-upload.net/download-1088244/words.dwag.html

 restart x-server

 done.
 Hopefully.^^

 don't know how to get äöüß on the keyboard though..

 If instructions on how to compile your own words.dwag  ask for it,
 tomorrow I should be in better mood for it ;)


:O Is aviable also an Italian words file?
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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

2008-09-04 Thread Lorn Potter
dorje wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 I installed Qtopia Desktop but I cannot connect to the freerunner.
 The message is:
 
 Could not connect to the Qtopia device.
 
 I can connect to my freerunner via ssh and I put the correct
 IP address on Qtopia Desktop settings.
 
 Is Qtopia Desktop supposed to work with the freerunner?

Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But not 
Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.



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Re: OM_GIT_BRANCH for Om2008.8-update

2008-09-04 Thread Holger Freyther
On Wednesday 03 September 2008 23:10:29 Florian Hackenberger wrote:
 Hi!

 Can someone from the OM buildhost team please tell me which git branch
 is used to build the update packages which are enabled by default on
 the image which can be downloaded here:

 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/

 It's not org.openmoko.asu.dev (the versions for qtopia-phone-x11
 differ).

org.openmoko.asu.stable. The PR differs from .dev to .stable... this also 
applies to dropbear. We set DISTRO_TYPE to release in that branch and then 
had to go back to debug and we had to bump the PR for that.


z.

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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

2008-09-04 Thread dorje
Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But not 
 Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.

Thank you! :)


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Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

2008-09-04 Thread shawnzier
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:04:38AM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 Thanks for posting the fixed one, I pushed it into the examples
 directory.
Cool. Glad you could find it useful.

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Re: How to start X as non root user without using display manager

2008-09-04 Thread ritz
Hello

On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 16:44 -0700, C R McClenaghan wrote:
 I'm hoping to boot into a non privileged user to use the phone.
 Does anyone know how to start X as a non root user without using a  
 display manager. My attempts to simply add --chuid name|uid option  
 to start-stop-daemon result in the error message - X: user not  
 authorized to run the X server, aborting. If I login using a usb  
probably, this maybe of interest
http://airlied.livejournal.com/59521.html


 keyboard an issue startxfce from the shell there isn't any problem.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Chris
 
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Re: German for Qtopia

2008-09-04 Thread Richy
see there:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_change_the_dictionary_used_by_the_predictive_keyboards_.3F

I think the words.dawg that comes with the tool is italian.

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Re: [2008.08] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

2008-09-04 Thread Holger Freyther
On Thursday 04 September 2008 11:15:08 Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
 Hi folks,

 on my old Nokia 9210 (8 years old, rest in peace) and on my new
 Freerunner running Qtopia, I had the choice to reveal or to hide my
 phone number to my correspondent.
 It was just an option in a configuration panel (I cannot remember where
 it was in Qtopia, but I worked well)

 Now on 2008.08 I cannot found the same kind of option... does someone
 know how I can configure this using a terminal ?

You should be able to install an app called phonesettings or calloptions... 
try that.

z.

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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

2008-09-04 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/9/4 dorje [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But not
  Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.


Are you sure? and so what is the sync mode aviable in the qtopia fr menu?
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Re: German for Qtopia

2008-09-04 Thread Richy
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I changed the wiki, so everyone should be able to compile his language
on his own.
It's my first time editing a wiki, so maybe someone with more
experience has a look on it? Just in case I broke some rule I didn't
know of.

It would be nice to know the config file of the keyboard so we don't
have to link directories but just change configs instead.
This would allow to set up some easy opkg install keyboard-lang

Just ideas, as I'm trying to contribute as much as I can.
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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread Sven Bretfeld
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 Anyway, from where have you got this information?

From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
 player. I think it's called try and error in english.

I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when
you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of
several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system.

Thanks for the info. I see the principle now. I was thinking Trolltech
must have supplied some more information on their system.

Greetings

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Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

2008-09-04 Thread flamma
I had installed the 08/30 image. Today I have updated from repositories
the phone (community and zecke's repo). Later, I added amgstrong
repository and installed pidgin.

What I find now is that the illume keyboard doesn't show. I can only see
the dictionary button. I can't write with it.

What is worst. I have tried to reinstall illume-config-illume, but the
package is missing, I don't know where it is reubicated.

Now, the only option I have is to reenable qtopia keyboard :(

Any help?


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Re: No GSM 2008.08 testing

2008-09-04 Thread Dylan Reilly
I discovered the issue. Using the command logread I noticed that
libficgta01vendor.so was compiled for the wrong Qt version and failing to
load. That is, of course, bad. I had at one point messed around with the
package providing that library (qtopia-phone-x11-phonevendor-ficgta01vendor)
and for some reason updates to it were failing to overwrite the old one. A
force remove and reninstall did the trick.

The strange thing is that this happened *again* today after another upgrade.
Maybe there are some dependancy issues with this package?

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Erin Yueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ilja O. wrote:
  I've received Freerunner and istalled testing daily build today.
 
  Same error here.
 
  Also, it's nice that no package depends on
  qtopia-phone-x11-composer-emailcomposer,
  qtopia-phone-x11-composer-genericcomposer,
  qtopia-phone-x11-composer-mmscomposer,
  qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-genericviewer,
  qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-smilviewer. At least not qtopia mail and dialer.
  It was truly linux-way quest to discover theese application (caller and
  mailer) need in those libraries.
 
 
  
 
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 did you update any package? or just flash with a testing daily build?
 this image
 '
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2
 '?

 also, you can use ssh to Freerunner and type 'logread', it would display
 all log information. Try to find 'AT+COPS=0' command, and check what CME
 error code you get.

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Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-09-04 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Install patched version of neod from
http://westhoffs-welt.de/blog/my_first_openmoko_application.html , it
will help.

dos

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 14:32, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Samstag 16 August 2008 14:02:30 schrideb Fox Mulder:
 I installed the same uboot version yesterday and my event2 doesn't work
 like with the old uboot version.
 I don't think uboot has something to do with the problem if the sensors
 work or not.

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am Samstag 16 August 2008 12:36:40 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
  btw updating my uboot made my event2 work so I was able to test
  gestures: the screen rotation worked nice, very cool!
 
  r
 
  what version of uboot?
 
  Now i have 1.3.2+gitr68+650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512
  from here:
  http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080812/ (the file
  name is 1.3.1 for some reason)
 
  r

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 i played a little with the processes.

 when i stop the xserver then starting the hexdump to /dev/inout/event2 it 
 will output something.
 while its dumping, i started the xserver and from the point when the 
 welcome sound
 was played, the dump stops ouputting anything. same procedure will reproduce
 it (stop xserver, restart hexdump!, start xserver, dump stops output when 
 plays welcome).

 mybe any of these processes
 root  2095  0.0  0.5   2572   700 pts/1S14:21   0:00 xinit 
 /etc/X11/Xsession --
 /usr/bin/Xglamo :0 -pn -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -roo
 root  2099  4.2  4.2   8716  5356 pts/1S   14:21   0:16  \_ 
 /usr/bin/Xglamo :0 -pn -dpi 285
 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -root-ppm /usr/share/pixmap
 root  2100  0.0  0.5   2676   648 pts/1S14:21   0:00  \_ /bin/sh 
 /etc/X11/Xsession
 root  2108  0.0  0.4   2680   536 pts/1S14:21   0:00  \_ 
 run-parts
 /etc/X11/Xsession.d
 root  2120 29.7  3.0  22848  3792 pts/1Rl   14:21   1:52  \_ 
 neod
 root  2121  3.1 10.0  33700 12644 pts/1S14:21   0:11  
 \_ openmoko-today
 root  2122  0.6  7.4  29740  9412 pts/1Sl   14:21   0:02  
 \_ phone-kit
 root  2123  0.1  2.5   7740  3188 pts/1S14:21   0:00  
 \_ matchbox-window-
 manager -use_titlebar yes -use_desktop_mode decorated -theme
 root  2124  0.8  5.7  20248  7248 pts/1S14:21   0:03  
 \_ matchbox-panel-2 --
 start-applets systray,startup --end-applets openmoko-pane

 is cause this.

 hope this wil help anybody to fix this issue.

 im using openmoko-devel 20080812.

  Carci

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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

2008-09-04 Thread Olivier Berger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I had installed the 08/30 image. Today I have updated from repositories
 the phone (community and zecke's repo). Later, I added amgstrong
 repository and installed pidgin.

 What I find now is that the illume keyboard doesn't show. I can only see
 the dictionary button. I can't write with it.

 What is worst. I have tried to reinstall illume-config-illume, but the
 package is missing, I don't know where it is reubicated.

 Now, the only option I have is to reenable qtopia keyboard :(

 Any help?

See current thread in support list about broken bits of
illume/enlightenment in ASU stable updates. 

Btw, why post to community what is
relevant to support ?

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-September/002532.html

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Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-09-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi again,

Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 17:31 +0200 schrieb Joachim Breitner:
 Am Donnerstag, den 14.08.2008, 19:01 +0200 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza:
  I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based
  gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download.
 
 I was about to package accelgel for Debian. I exported the latest svn,
 tried to generate a clean source tarball with
 $ autogen.sh  make dist
 and tried to use the resulting .tar.gz to build the package.
 Unfortunately, it seems that the generated tarball is not complete, for
 example it misses ./accelneo/include/accelneo.h
 
 Would you do me a favour and provide an “official” source tarball of
 your release, preferably one created by “make dist”? Then I’ll continue
 with packaging it.

While I’m at it, here are some packaging related suggestions:

 * Check for the existence of your dependencies in configure. E.g. I
could run configure without having libbluetooth2-dev installed, only to
have “make” fail.
 * Please install everything using automake, including configuration
etc. This avoids duplication and diversion between accelges_svn.bb, the
Debian packaging and other distros.
 * Do not install files with an ending “.sh” in the path. This is
against Debian policy, and ugly as well :-)
 * Do you really need the various -neo2.sh, -neo3.sh wrappers? Why not
have one wrapper that reads cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware?
 * You install the acceleration data into /etc in your bb recipe. This
is uncommon for binary data. If it’s data that is going to be modified
by programs while running, it should go to /var/lib. Or better, put
distributed files in /usr/share and create additional data in /var/lib. 

I guess that’s quite a large list. But I think it’s what turn a private
project into a proper program.

BTW, what are you plans now that GSOC is over? Are you continuing the
development of accelges?

Greetings,
Joachim


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2008-09-04 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

There is a lot of duplication between the support and community lists
for simple questions relating to bugs with recent upgrades, or the
likes.

Please, care to subscribe and (read first, then) post to the most
appropriate list when you'd like to get some help on fixing bugs,
misbehaviours and the likes.

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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

2008-09-04 Thread Adrien de Sentenac
2008/9/4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 What is worst. I have tried to reinstall illume-config-illume, but the
 package is missing, I don't know where it is reubicated.



illume-config-illume can be found in the testing repository
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/
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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

2008-09-04 Thread flamma

 illume-config-illume can be found in the testing repository
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/

I fear I have not explained myself very well.
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume*
non longer exists. It used to, but now I can't find it.

illume-keyboard* still exists, so I'm going to try reinstalling them.


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread flamma
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyway, from where have you got this information?

From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
 player. I think it's called try and error in english.

 I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when
 you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of
 several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system.


No, I hadn't. I think that has nothing to do with Qtopia. I think you
should try to reformat your card.

Where have you installed Qtopia? I did it in my card.


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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard [SOLVED]

2008-09-04 Thread flamma

 illume-config-illume can be found in the testing repository
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/

 I fear I have not explained myself very well.
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume*
 non longer exists. It used to, but now I can't find it.

 illume-keyboard* still exists, so I'm going to try reinstalling them.



Reinstalling all illume-keyboard* has worked. Not sure about what happened.


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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-09-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Valerio,

Am Mittwoch, den 27.08.2008, 12:33 +0100 schrieb Valerio Valerio:
 a ReMoko package with ability to send events through gestures (Paul's
 daemon - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures) is available now in:
 http://code.google.com/p/remoko/downloads/list

I have had a look into packaging ReMoko for Debian. Here are some issues
that you might want to look into, to make ReMoko easily packagable.

 * The setup.py could be improved. Have a look at [1], how I did this
for zhone’s setup.py. 
 * It would be great if you could provide “official” source tarballs of
your release. setup.py helps you with the sdist command, but you need to
tell it what files it should include. Again, you can have a look at how
Jan Lübbe did that for zhone at [2].
 * Your configuration module just looks for “settings.cfg”, without
specifying a path. Something like sys.env['HOME'] + settings.cfg might
be more sensible.
 * The server source looks good, “make dist” produces a sensible
tarball. You might want to change the product name and version number in
configure.ac though.
 * What exactly is the server for? It seems it listens on a tcp socket
for commands, which is connected by the UI to send the events over
bluetooth. Why don’t you bind to the 127.0.0.1 IP address? Why don’t you
use dbus for that?

I think it would be great to have a remoko Debian package, but there is
some work left. Are you going to continue remoko development, now that
GSoC is over? 

Greetings and thanks,
Joachim

[1] 
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=blobdiff;f=setup.py;h=3203be394e70201eea5c865cba0f5922777ce237;hp=1b0e1c1b56f87651303533358e5af2a3c17a0af0;hb=ff4c5c02ee9fea489f7a37a6d4bd9e8475f76cc3;hpb=b9e9d771dd3c7d8554308f480db246f3d4a9f98d
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http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcfe28591bf4d40fcbd8b1bd73125f8cd5bff154;hp=509e786b03579e34085219ac70ba88d7f1827ed5


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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-04 Thread Marcel
What does your zhone-session look like exactly? I cannot seem to reproduce 
this... :/

-Marcel

Am Mittwoch 03 September 2008 23:02:48 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all
 windows. When i set the keyboard window to always on top it gets over
 all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances.
 And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as
 matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :)

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Fox Mulder wrote:
  Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
  and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
  Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
  and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)
 
  Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top
  all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't
  type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top
  again. :/
 
  Ciao,
   Rainer
 
  Christian Adams wrote:
  moin,
  you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to
  open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a
  -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the
  screen.
 
  (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry
  480x210+0+430 )
 
  regards, morlac
 
  Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder:
  You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
  start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i
  got one
  big problem.
  Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
  more to my liking with window resize and move functions.
  But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after
  key
  press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
  attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all
  with
  xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.
  Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
  maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?
  I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle  in the zhone-session
  file
  before starting xfwm.
  Ciao,
   Rainer
 
  Marcel wrote:
  Moin,
 
  I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox-
  wm on
  debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone-
  session only
  prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.
 
  Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/
  how do I need
  to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4?
 
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Re: German for Qtopia

2008-09-04 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Hi Richy,

  Thanks for your contribution to the wiki. It just needed fixing
'NEO' to 'Neo' and 'Linux Box' to 'Linux box'.

Minh

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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

2008-09-04 Thread Valerio Valerio
Hi Joachim,

2008/9/4 Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi Valerio,

 Am Mittwoch, den 27.08.2008, 12:33 +0100 schrieb Valerio Valerio:
  a ReMoko package with ability to send events through gestures (Paul's
  daemon - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures) is available now in:
  http://code.google.com/p/remoko/downloads/list

 I have had a look into packaging ReMoko for Debian. Here are some issues
 that you might want to look into, to make ReMoko easily packagable.

  * The setup.py could be improved. Have a look at [1], how I did this
 for zhone's setup.py.
  * It would be great if you could provide official source tarballs of
 your release. setup.py helps you with the sdist command, but you need to
 tell it what files it should include. Again, you can have a look at how
 Jan Lübbe did that for zhone at [2].
  * Your configuration module just looks for settings.cfg, without
 specifying a path. Something like sys.env['HOME'] + settings.cfg might
 be more sensible.

The ReMoko version on the svn is my work version, I know that I have
relative path and also the setup.py is incomplete, and some other glitches
remain there. Until 16 Set I can't take a look on that :(


  * The server source looks good, make dist produces a sensible
 tarball. You might want to change the product name and version number in
 configure.ac though.

Thanks, I miss that one.


  * What exactly is the server for? It seems it listens on a tcp socket
 for commands, which is connected by the UI to send the events over
 bluetooth. Why don't you bind to the 127.0.0.1 IP address? Why don't you
 use dbus for that?

The server handles all the HID communications, is like a bridge for the
client UI, I use a unix socket because the BlueZ devs recommend it to me,
besides a dbus interface will be slower, because in the mouse profile I have
to send every small movement (pixel by pixel).



 I think it would be great to have a remoko Debian package, but there is
 some work left. Are you going to continue remoko development, now that
 GSoC is over?

Yes, I already made more code, but right now I don't have time and
concentration until I finish my last exam (16 Set)  :(

Thanks for the tips.
I will get in touch with you after 16 Set.

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 Greetings and thanks,
 Joachim

 [1]
 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=blobdiff;f=setup.py;h=3203be394e70201eea5c865cba0f5922777ce237;hp=1b0e1c1b56f87651303533358e5af2a3c17a0af0;hb=ff4c5c02ee9fea489f7a37a6d4bd9e8475f76cc3;hpb=b9e9d771dd3c7d8554308f480db246f3d4a9f98d
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 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcfe28591bf4d40fcbd8b1bd73125f8cd5bff154;hp=509e786b03579e34085219ac70ba88d7f1827ed5


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getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

2008-09-04 Thread Detructor
Hey guys,

I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:

When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
Starting download: [dfu_download error -71

sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.

When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this error.

My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1

I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the www
(only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).

hope for help
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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

2008-09-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
Detructor wrote:
 Hey guys,
 
 I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:
 
 When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
 Starting download: [dfu_download error -71
 
 sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
 
 When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this error.
 
 My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1
 
 I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the www
 (only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).

Moving to support

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Re: Post problems/bugs related questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please

2008-09-04 Thread Kosa
There are tons of duplicated messages on the same list too.
I just  the same message from Mickey 6 times. But it happens
all the time with a lot of posts.

I wpuld be nice if someone could do something about it.

Cheers.

Kosa

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 There is a lot of duplication between the support and community lists
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Newbie question about OM2008 emulation

2008-09-04 Thread Pupino
Hi all,
i'm new to the openmoko comunity and i was trying to test the software under
qemu.
I've managed to compile the emulator using the mokomakefile and i'm also be
able to boot, but after boot the software (wich i think is qtopia) tells me
no network and doesn't respond to any input.
I've read all the wiki article about qemu (all i've found, at least) but
didn't get and hint on how to proced from there.
Can someone point me to the right wiki/readme/whatever?
And if the software is really qtopia how can i run the OM 2008 image
instead?

thanks in advance.
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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread Sven Bretfeld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when
 you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of
 several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system.


 No, I hadn't. I think that has nothing to do with Qtopia. I think you
 should try to reformat your card.

 Where have you installed Qtopia? I did it in my card.

I have installed Qtopia on the Flash while my microSD runs Debian. The
latter is more important to me than Qtopia. Below is my output of 'ls
-l /media/card'. Maybe it gives somebody a hint what's wrong here. I
cannot make anything out of it.

Greetings

Sven

,
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -l /media/card/
| ls: /media/card/?-?/.1 : No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/?m?o.q : Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?
| �?
| �.?
| : Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/.� : Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/!aa.�: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?-�/.1!: No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/a!caea.g�: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?m�o.q!: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?▒��▒�?! Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/??�?.�!: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?-?/#.1#: No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/?m?o'.q': Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?*�?*�+.?+: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?.??.?/.�/: No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/#0c0c.0�: Input/output error
| ls: /media/card/?2-?2/3.1#3: No such file or directory
| ls: /media/card/a#4cc4ec.4g�: Input/output error
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| -rwxr-xr-x1 root root44032 Sep  3 00:40 qtopia_db.sqlite
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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

2008-09-04 Thread Lorn Potter
Thomas Bertani wrote:
 
 
 2008/9/4 dorje [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But not
   Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.
 
 
 Are you sure? and so what is the sync mode aviable in the qtopia fr menu?Yes.

I am quite sure.

The 'Synchronization' app in Qtopia 4 uses 'Sync Agent' to sync with 
Microsoft Outlook. It is not compatible with Qtopia Desktop from Qtopia 2.
 
http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qtopiadesktop/over-desktop-synchronization-1.html

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Re: Openmoko Images

2008-09-04 Thread Kyle Bassett
Is there a reason why I can't find the ipkg utility on any of these images?

I am using
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/Openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080430-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2

from automated.it, because all the builds on OM are down...

-Kyle

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Warren Baird wrote:
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Unfortunately that is not the case, I've been playing with BT
  headsets for weeks, and have not got a
  peep out of one (I've tried several), I have not even got a2dp
  working either.
 
 
  Based on the comments for http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1656 it
  sounds like some people have managed to get BT audio working with a2dp,
  albeit with some signal strength issues.   This is on my list of things
  to try, but I haven't gotten around to it yet...
 
  Warren
 

 I tried exactly the same thing, but was unable to get anything to play
 using asound.

 However the A2DP uses a different path, it sends system PCM into the audio
 chip and then routes it
 to the PCM out which goes directly to the BT chip. It is nice to know they
 heard something, however
 there are other issues with this path that are hinted at on the wolfson
 site,there maybe a clocking
 issue between the i2c input and the pcm output, at least that seems true
 for the reverse direction.

 BT headset to/from GSM is yet another path, and should not involve the CPU
 at all (other than for
 setup).

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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread Lorn Potter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyway, from where have you got this information?
 
 From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
 player. I think it's called try and error in english.

/media/card/ and ~/Documents/

Use the Storage.conf file to add other directories to scan.

And it is documented:
http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/syscust-docstorage.html

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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-04 Thread Fox Mulder
This is my current zhone-session file

--
#!/bin/sh

#zhone 
exec startxfce4 
matchbox-keyboard-toggle 
#exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes
exec xfwm4
--

Now the matchbox keyboard works and xvkbd is also useable when i change
the matchbox-keyboard-toggle script to invoke this virtual keyboard.
Only problem is that now some windows are bigger than the screen and i
have to move them to see all of it because they can't be resized.
But most other windows now can be resized to my liking. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

Marcel wrote:
 What does your zhone-session look like exactly? I cannot seem to reproduce 
 this... :/
 
 -Marcel
 
 Am Mittwoch 03 September 2008 23:02:48 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all
 windows. When i set the keyboard window to always on top it gets over
 all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances.
 And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as
 matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :)

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Fox Mulder wrote:
 Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
 and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
 Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
 and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)

 Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top
 all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't
 type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top
 again. :/

 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Christian Adams wrote:
 moin,
 you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to
 open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a
 -geometry widthxheight+x+y to tel it where to appear on the
 screen.

 (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry
 480x210+0+430 )

 regards, morlac

 Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder:
 You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
 start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i
 got one
 big problem.
 Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
 more to my liking with window resize and move functions.
 But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after
 key
 press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
 attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all
 with
 xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.
 Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
 maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?
 I still have the matchbox-keyboard-toggle  in the zhone-session
 file
 before starting xfwm.
 Ciao,
  Rainer

 Marcel wrote:
 Moin,

 I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox-
 wm on
 debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone-
 session only
 prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.

 Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/
 how do I need
 to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4?

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Re: German for Qtopia

2008-09-04 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 cp the en_EN directory to _en_EN,
 mv en_EN to de_DE
 ln de_De to en_EN
 replace de_DE/words.dwag with:

 http://www.file-upload.net/download-1088244/words.dwag.html

Wow. It's working.

Thanks

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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

2008-09-04 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 /media/card/ and ~/Documents/

Ok. ~/Documents/ works. I tried it before, since this is quite
obvious. But it didn't work at that time. I think one has to restart
the Xserver before the files get scanned.

Thanks

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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

2008-09-04 Thread Fox Mulder
I updated the wiki instructions with my working zhone-session file as an
example.

Michael Shiloh wrote:
 Fox Mulder wrote:
 Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
 and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
 Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
 and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)
 
 
 Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check and 
 correct as necessary my instructions at
 
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_replace_the_matchbox_window_manager_with_the_xfce_window_manager.3F
 
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Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip

2008-09-04 Thread roguemoko
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:48 +1000 schrieb
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 How's the core functionality looking? Milestone 2 looked great but I had 
 some real issues doing more than one thing without something locking up 
 are being troublesome.
 

 This is 99% the problem of the Zhone UI. I have hardly any resources to
 push this further -- and even if I could, it would need to be actually
 designed from scratch rather than hacked together as it is now.

 I'm afraid we have to wait someone coming up with a solid UI on top of
 this framework -- at least the lower layers we now can rely on.
   

Your faith in the framework at least sounds positive :) ... I guess I'm 
waiting for the merge then, which I understand is some way off.

It's looking like I'll be needing to tri-boot at this stage ... qtopia 
as phone, om2008 for testing and fso for dev. At least I'll be occupied :)

Thanks for the info.

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Re: usb mass media storage

2008-09-04 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Where did you get that kernel image? I haven't been able to find it
| anywhere. Is there any other way to get those commands?

Any recent kernel package should have these modules.

Word of warning though, USB Mass Storage is block based protocol, it
means that if you have the filesystem you are exposing there mounted on
Freerunner side as well, filesystem actions like update directories,
which blocks are free etc will conflict between the two mounts and less
than good experience will result :-O

So to play this game you need to ensure you umount the filesystem on the
shared storage from Freerunner first and I guess mount it back afterwards.

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Qtopia 4.3.3

2008-09-04 Thread Paul Buede
So I flashed this one today, I used
qtopia-4.3.3-snapshot-09012242-gta02-flash.tgz.

I followed an earlier post to turn my speaker volume back up to 127 so I
can hear.  Are the various values in the file
/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state, documented anywhere? 
Turning the value up helps me hear but its got a buzz I wonder if I can
tweak out.

Interestingly, I used to notice I got fewer bars with 4.3.2, and the
reception didn't seem quite as good as with ASU.  Now, reception still
seems slightly worse, but oddly, it has full bars, that never decrease,
at least while walking around the house, where there is usually a fair
amount of variation in how many bars show.  So that seems to be broken
or looking at the wrong thing, can anyone confirm?

The SMS fix seems to work sort of, used to be when I got a voice mail I
would get a text from ATT with some weird characters, now I get a text
that looks like this:

--
Stop

From: 2804
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008 22:00:16
--

I am not sure this helps me more than a text with strange characters,
but it is at least still unique enough looking that I will know what it
means.

I haven't done any testing involving the power management or anything,
if I notice anything wierd there I will report back.  Anyone tried
bluetooth headset with this new version to see if the files that were
not there in 4.3.2 are there now?  I can try tomorrow if nobody else has
yet.

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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

2008-09-04 Thread Vinc Duran
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thomas Bertani wrote:
 
 
  2008/9/4 dorje [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But
 not
Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.
 
 
  Are you sure? and so what is the sync mode aviable in the qtopia fr
 menu?Yes.

 I am quite sure.

 The 'Synchronization' app in Qtopia 4 uses 'Sync Agent' to sync with
 Microsoft Outlook. It is not compatible with Qtopia Desktop from Qtopia 2.


 http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qtopiadesktop/over-desktop-synchronization-1.html

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Hi Lorn,
Very cool. I'm going to try syncing with Outlook. Can you direct me to an
article/faq/thread that is intended for end users?
I'm using  4.3.3-snapshot  2008/9/2 on my FreeRunner. I'm using Vista with
Outlook 2007. I'd happily switch to an older version of Outlook if I had
to.
Thanks for your time,
Vinc
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Lotto Magic: Home Business Produces High Profits For Members

2008-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for your interest in Lotto Magic. So what is Lotto Magic you ask? 
Well its a Home Business and benefits club/savings club. Meaning you can earn 
$100s or $1000s per month and gain access to discounts from top name online 
stores, huge savings on vacations, entertainment tickets such as concerts, 
movies, and sporting events. I mean, you name it and they will save you a lot 
of money on it. Plus you earn big commission checks while being entered in the 
Florida lottery, meaning you could become an instant MILLIONAIRE!
 http://flalottomagic.net/?p0615 or http://freelottomagic.com/?p0615 
Their are 2 different memberships: Team Player and Team Captain.nbsp;
nbsp;
 Team Players get all benefits and are placed in a Lottery Pool with 7 other 
members. If anyones numbers hit, you each win 10% of the prize money. To join 
as a Team Player costs $25 per month, but you are not allowed to earn 
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