Re: FDOM updated

2008-09-15 Thread roguemoko
W.Kenworthy wrote:
 I am using the matching kernel and jffs file and a uboot of almost the
 same day.  Going to try some of the other family members sims and see if
 they make a difference - shouldnt as this one works fine with 2007.2.

 I did see some others say its working for them - so far what seems to be
 happening is that the sim cant connect in time, qpe dies and never comes
 back.
   
Have you tried asu stable with success?

Going by your other posts, I'd imagine you know what you are doing, so 
good luck ;)

Sarton

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Custom kernel build

2008-09-15 Thread Shaz
Hi,

I'm trying to build a custom kernel with the patches. I've changed the
linux-openmoko_2.6.24+git.bb to include the patches in SRC_URI. The
problem is that make build-package-linux builds only 2.6.21 kernel and
just wouldn't go to 2.6.24+git. I've changed the
PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel to linux-openmoko and
PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-openmoko to 2.6.24+git in
openembedded/conf/machine/om-gta02.conf. It simply won't build the
kernel at version 2.6.24+git.

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Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Dale Maggee
Hi,

as per the 'DFUScript' thread, I've made a change to my flashing / 
backup utility to enable support for more than one attached DFU-capable 
device, but I'm interested to know what happens if you have more than 
one of the same device attached and booted into NAND/NOR.

So, if you have more than one freerunner or more than one Neo1973, could 
I please ask you to boot them both/all into NAND/NOR, run dfu-util -l, 
and post the output here for me, along with what you had attached (i.e 
two freerunners, two 1973's, etc)? this would be a great help.

thanks!

-Dale

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Re: Kernel Build without OE tools

2008-09-15 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi,
|
| I am also trying to build the kernel the old fashioned way. So I did :
|
| git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6
| cd linux-2.6
| git checkout origin/stable
|
| and now I did some of my custom patching but then at the point of
| doing make I got stuck on the variable CROSS_COMPILE=? and ARCH=?
|
| Normally, when building generic arm kernel for qemu I used to do
|
| #make vmlinux CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux ARCH=arm

Have a look in the ./build script in our kernel sources.

Basically you need to download the toolchain tarball

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain

to get the cross compilers down /usr/local/openmoko, and edit

export CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-

in ./build.

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Re: GSM Firmware crash

2008-09-15 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke




http://dennisharting.blogspot.com/2008/09/life-of-choices.html


Life is nothing more than a series of choices. All day long
we are making choices which affect the quality of our lives. This is not a
novel concept to anyone. However, most choose to focus upon the major decisions
which have a big impact on life. To change your life, these choices must
be made differently is the common belief. Unfortunately, these aren't the
selections which usually hinder people's lives. Instead, it is the day-to-day
decisions which determine how life progresses.



Improvement is a daily activity. The best way to improve in any area of life is
to make daily progress. Over time, this adds up to result in a major
difference. Each decision will build on the previous so that after a few
months, one literally thinks completely different. Many small changes do have
an effect.



Here are threlse experienced this?
 
  Regards,
  Andreas Fischer
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Re: Qtopia opkg sources

2008-09-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 14 September 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote:
 Hello
 I use Qtopia 4.3.3 snapshot (it is stable and fast), but for about a
 week ago the sources to opkg was removed, or buildhost.openmoko.org
 was removed.
 Does anyone know where the Qtopia sources are?

The move from buildhost.openmoko.org to downloads.openmoko.org was announced 
on this list and has been mentioned many times since. AFAIK this never held 
the source for Qtopia 4.3.3 though - that has always come from trolltech, 
although the latest SDK for openmoko seems to be 4.3.2 there:

http://qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php

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Re: Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 15 September 2008, Dale Maggee wrote:
 Hi,

 as per the 'DFUScript' thread, I've made a change to my flashing /
 backup utility to enable support for more than one attached DFU-capable
 device, but I'm interested to know what happens if you have more than
 one of the same device attached and booted into NAND/NOR.

 So, if you have more than one freerunner or more than one Neo1973, could
 I please ask you to boot them both/all into NAND/NOR, run dfu-util -l,
 and post the output here for me, along with what you had attached (i.e
 two freerunners, two 1973's, etc)? this would be a great help.

Two freerunners in NOR connected directly to the host:

# dfu-util -l
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB 
Device Firmware Upgrade
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB 
Device Firmware Upgrade

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Re: Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Dale Maggee
Al Johnson wrote:
 On Monday 15 September 2008, Dale Maggee wrote:
   
 Hi,

 as per the 'DFUScript' thread, I've made a change to my flashing /
 backup utility to enable support for more than one attached DFU-capable
 device, but I'm interested to know what happens if you have more than
 one of the same device attached and booted into NAND/NOR.

 So, if you have more than one freerunner or more than one Neo1973, could
 I please ask you to boot them both/all into NAND/NOR, run dfu-util -l,
 and post the output here for me, along with what you had attached (i.e
 two freerunners, two 1973's, etc)? this would be a great help.
 

 Two freerunners in NOR connected directly to the host:

 # dfu-util -l
 dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
 This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

 Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB 
 Device Firmware Upgrade
 Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB 
 Device Firmware Upgrade

   
Thanks Al,

hmmm, interesting...

Do you have any Idea how you would choose which one to flash if both 
were in NOR when you run dfu-util? the only difference I can see between 
those two devices is the devnum=x bit, but dfu-util -h doesn't seem to 
provide any method for providing this when flashing. could you perhaps 
use  'dfu-util --path bus-port. ... .port'? If so, what would you give it?

I think the answer might end up being if you have two freerunners, make 
sure that they're not both in NAND/NOR when you flash ;)

Thanks,
-Dale

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Re: *new version* A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo

2008-09-15 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:13 AM, fredrik normann 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  I have been developing small python wx-based gui that currently can be
 used
  for flashing, log data obtaining and is able to do some backup (last two
 via
  ssh).
 
  I'd be glad to share if you want. (Just will need to do some
 docstrings).
 
 yeah, I'd be really interested in seeing it! I don't really know any
 python yet, but I've looked into it a little bit lately, and I've
 decided I want to learn it, so if you share what you have it will
 probably help my learning and I can probably contribute to it.


 I thought about doing this in Python aswell. I got enought time, so if you
 want to share what you've done so fare, that would be great.


Okay. I didn't really expected  that somebody would be interested.
Than, what project hosting is preferably used by OM community?

Is it http://projects.openmoko.org/ ? Or something else?
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Running a PyGTK application

2008-09-15 Thread Frédéric
enggak mas. insyaallah saya bawa stang bunder merah :)



2008/9/13 Adi Prasetyo Soenarto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  mas Eko bawa si cabe merahnya? SOL

 2008/9/13 Eko Mulyo Hadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   wadoh saya blom tau infonya mas
 mas Alfian tuh yang kerja di Telkomsel mungkin tahu
 ya coba nanti tak carikan infonya, kalo ada langsung di kabari ke Kendal
 Online :)

 salam
 Eko


 2008/9/13 Muhtadin Kdl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Mas Eko minta inro mudik motor telkomsel dong..?
 Trims sebelumnya.



 



Re: Sim error: sim is missing

2008-09-15 Thread Alessandro De Noia
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as a Team Player costs $25 per month, but you are not allowed to earn 
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Re: [debian] daily kernel and modules package

2008-09-15 Thread Andre Roth
If you are using the Presto yum plugin, the key change should have gone
without a hitch, except for the minor detail that there were no
deltarpms for the 600+ MB of updates.

We have managed to get the .newkey repositories properly deltarpm'd now,
but the default fedora-updates-newkey.repo doesn't point to the correct
mirrorlist.

To use the Presto test repositories for .newkey packages, after
installing fedora-release-9-5.transition, you need to set change
fedora-updates-newkey.repo so that the mirrorlist line is as follows:
mirrorlist=http://presto-mirrors.anmar.eu.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f$releasever.newkeyarch=$basearch

For more information, please check http://fedorahosted.org/presto.

Jonathan Dieter


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Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ?

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Re: QCop server not running

2008-09-15 Thread Martin Vyšný
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 15:02 +0200, Martin Vyšný wrote:
 Hi,
   I'm using the FDOM distro. I just updated packages with opkg update 
 opkg upgrade and now the qtopia applications are failing to start:
 
 # DISPLAY=:0 /opt/Qtopia/bin/addressbook
 ApplicationLayer: Unable to connect to server, application layer will be
 disabled.
 Could not connect to QCop server; probably not running.
 
 Can you please help me on how to start the QCop server? ;)
 Thanks!
 Martin

My bad, it seems that the qpe server was not running.
Cheers,
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Re: Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 15 September 2008, Dale Maggee wrote:
 Al Johnson wrote:
  On Monday 15 September 2008, Dale Maggee wrote:
  Hi,
 
  as per the 'DFUScript' thread, I've made a change to my flashing /
  backup utility to enable support for more than one attached DFU-capable
  device, but I'm interested to know what happens if you have more than
  one of the same device attached and booted into NAND/NOR.
 
  So, if you have more than one freerunner or more than one Neo1973, could
  I please ask you to boot them both/all into NAND/NOR, run dfu-util -l,
  and post the output here for me, along with what you had attached (i.e
  two freerunners, two 1973's, etc)? this would be a great help.
 
  Two freerunners in NOR connected directly to the host:
 
  # dfu-util -l
  dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
  This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
 
  Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB
  Device Firmware Upgrade
  Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB
  Device Firmware Upgrade

 Thanks Al,

 hmmm, interesting...

 Do you have any Idea how you would choose which one to flash if both
 were in NOR when you run dfu-util? the only difference I can see between
 those two devices is the devnum=x bit, but dfu-util -h doesn't seem to
 provide any method for providing this when flashing. could you perhaps
 use  'dfu-util --path bus-port. ... .port'? If so, what would you give it?

Don't know - a look at the source seems in order since the online help is less 
than explicit, and the wiki doesn't mention -p at all. 

 I think the answer might end up being if you have two freerunners, make
 sure that they're not both in NAND/NOR when you flash ;)

I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners 
sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just 
suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again.

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ASU 2008.9

2008-09-15 Thread julien cubizolles
Is there a way to get a today screen in ASU (maybe qtopia's) like
there used to be in 2007.2 ?



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Re: QCop server not running [FDOM]

2008-09-15 Thread David Samblas
Have you tried?

ln /opt/Qtopia/bin/qcop /usr/bin/qcop -s 

proposed previously on the list?

please specifiy FDOM in the topic to  don't worry not-FDOM users with
broken updates

Regards 
David Samblas 
02 +0200, Martin Vyšný escribió:
 Hi,
   I'm using the FDOM distro. I just updated packages with opkg update 
 opkg upgrade and now the qtopia applications are failing to start:
 
 # DISPLAY=:0 /opt/Qtopia/bin/addressbook
 ApplicationLayer: Unable to connect to server, application layer will be
 disabled.
 Could not connect to QCop server; probably not running.
 
 Can you please help me on how to start the QCop server? ;)
 Thanks!
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community written community update

2008-09-15 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Hi all,

We all love Community Updates, but that's a huge endeavour for one person to 
tackle. So let us try a little social experiment here: community written 
community update. I just posted an outlined list of bullet points at:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/15th_September%2C_2008_-_Activity_since_launch

The plan is to leave it to everybody else to elaborate along the following 
editorial guidelines:
1. Include everything that was hot on a mailing lists at some point since 
launch.
2. Limit each point to three sentences and one link. 

Yours truly.

Minh, Volunteer wiki editor
(Curious and impatient to see if it works.)

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Re: Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Martin Šenkeřík
by 'dfu-util -l' you see dfu capable devices and it's addresses
then you can specify which device you want to flash by attribute '-d hw-address'

see 'dfu-util -h'

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Iker Berasaluce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners
 sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just
 suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again.


 Is that always possible?
 I mean, I have a built in webcam in my laptop that is always detected
 by DFU, thus making it unable for flashing the FR as far as I tried,
 that hasn't been too much. I'm looking for a way to tell the DFU wich
 device I want to flash removing none of them. And that would be useful
 for the script.


 --
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 Departamento de Informatica
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Re: Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Dale Maggee
Al Johnson wrote:
 I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners 
 sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just 
 suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again.
   
Agreed, that seems like the easiest way to manage it, I'll add this for 
the next release of my script.

Thanks for your info and advice :)

-Dale

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Re: Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 15 September 2008, Iker Berasaluce wrote:
  I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two
  freerunners sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device
  you could just suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming
  and try again.

 Is that always possible?
 I mean, I have a built in webcam in my laptop that is always detected
 by DFU, thus making it unable for flashing the FR as far as I tried,
 that hasn't been too much. I'm looking for a way to tell the DFU wich
 device I want to flash removing none of them. And that would be useful
 for the script.

Your webcam doesn't (or shouldn't) have the same manufacturer and product 
identifiers as an openmoko so you should just be able to use:

dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a rootfs -R -D my_rootfs.jffs2

With two freerunners we can't do that because they both have the same 
identifiers.

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Re: Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Dale Maggee
Iker Berasaluce wrote:
 I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners
 sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just
 suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again.

 

 Is that always possible?
 I mean, I have a built in webcam in my laptop that is always detected
 by DFU, thus making it unable for flashing the FR as far as I tried,
 that hasn't been too much. I'm looking for a way to tell the DFU wich
 device I want to flash removing none of them. And that would be useful
 for the script.


   

As Al Indicated, we're talking about when you have two of the same 
device attached.

I already have my script detecting multiple devices and showing a list 
which allows you to select which device to flash. This will be in the 
next release, I'm just waiting on a couple of guys to test it out and 
confirm that it works. (I only have one dfu-capable device, so I can't 
test it properly)

-Dale

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Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD

2008-09-15 Thread Previdi Roberto
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can you confirm if you need the idle clock set to 1?  What I think I
 understood about this issue is that it is timeout-related only, it means
 I didn't actually understand what is going on if it needs idle clocks too.


i am now sure: i don't need it. I made many other experiments (about
log2(50)) and i found out that the maximum value for the sd_max_clock which
can still read the card is

int(50MHz / 19) =2631578 Hz

(why this value? maybe something crucial happens at low level when you raise
from this value?)
Anyway, i don't absolutely need the idleclock, it was just one of the thing
tried to make it work.
Probably the problem is just that i bought a very slow card.. I hope that
performances will be sufficient to boot something from it, or maybe i could
keep it just to save my mp3s..

i attach my u-boot environment, just in case anyone pass through the same
pain he can try to take inspiration from it. the menus which successfully
boot with the card are the 4 and the 10.

if any other test could be useful to debug just tell me what to do.. at the
moment i don't mind loosing the card content, i just put an experimental
environment inside, and it seems not to boot very well..

roby


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Re: QCop server not running [FDOM]

2008-09-15 Thread Martin Vyšný
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 16:18 +0200, David Samblas wrote:
 Have you tried?
 
 ln /opt/Qtopia/bin/qcop /usr/bin/qcop -s 
 
 proposed previously on the list?
 
 please specifiy FDOM in the topic to  don't worry not-FDOM users with
 broken updates
 
 Regards 
 David Samblas 

Thank you for your tip. I'll use a FDOM: prefix from now on. Thanks!

 02 +0200, Martin Vyšný escribió:
  Hi,
I'm using the FDOM distro. I just updated packages with opkg update 
  opkg upgrade and now the qtopia applications are failing to start:
  
  # DISPLAY=:0 /opt/Qtopia/bin/addressbook
  ApplicationLayer: Unable to connect to server, application layer will be
  disabled.
  Could not connect to QCop server; probably not running.
  
  Can you please help me on how to start the QCop server? ;)
  Thanks!
  Martin
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Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread Bumbl
http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png
http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png
http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png


Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme.

It looks amazingly good.

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Re: Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread Natanael Arndt
Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl:
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png


 Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme.

 It looks amazingly good.

Cool, where did you find this?

I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your 
FreeRunner.

be blessed
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Re: Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Michael Fisher
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Martin Šenkeřík
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 by 'dfu-util -l' you see dfu capable devices and it's addresses
 then you can specify which device you want to flash by attribute '-d
 hw-address'

 see 'dfu-util -h'

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Iker Berasaluce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two
 freerunners
  sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could
 just
  suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try
 again.
 
 
  Is that always possible?
  I mean, I have a built in webcam in my laptop that is always detected
  by DFU, thus making it unable for flashing the FR as far as I tried,
  that hasn't been too much. I'm looking for a way to tell the DFU wich
  device I want to flash removing none of them. And that would be useful
  for the script.
 
 
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The original reference to *multiple devices* was having more than one OM
phone plugged in...not other USB devices. The script allows keeping other
USB devicies plugged in but obviously can't differentiate when two OMs are
plugged in.

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Re: Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread Bumbl
I found this at rasterman.com
which is raster's homepage

Natanael Arndt wrote:
 Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl:
   
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png


 Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme.

 It looks amazingly good.
 

 Cool, where did you find this?

 I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your 
 FreeRunner.

 be blessed
 Natanael

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Re: [debian] xglamo howto?

2008-09-15 Thread Greg Bonett
Does installing the xglamo package have a significant impact on basic UI
performance (e.g. not video, but opening/closing windows, menus, etc..)?

Thanks!


 Hi arne!
 I tested your package and it works as described. Thanks! It's great
 to have glamo and xrandr working in debian..
 However there are some issues for me at this point:

 1: running 'xrandr -o 1' twice results in still beeing in landscape
 mode but having a somehow messed up pointercalibration: clicks are
 about a 1/3 screen too far right.

 2: I've set up debian with xfce as described in [1]. When restarting
 xfce I see X starting up 5 times, ending with a blank screen, showing
 INIT: Id 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes.
 Running 'xinit' as root from a ssh-session does work, (xfce comes up
 really fast!), but there are some problems with fonts, panel- and
 other configurations, e.g. cell-writer training data...

 I'm sure especially 2 is some kind of xinit-configuration issue - any
 hints?


 Cheers,
 radl

 [1]http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Running_X_as_normal_user

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distribution choice

2008-09-15 Thread Kevin Dixon
Hi all,

My company is planning to roll out a suite of applications to be ran on the
openmoko/freerunner platform.

I'm researching which distribution would be best for our needs. We are not
so concerned with the current state of available applications, since we will
be writing out own.

So here are a few questions that hopefully you guys can field:

We are debating between Om 2007.2 and Om 2008.8.

Which release is more stable? 2007.2 or 2008.8, in regards to the
Freerunner.

Is Java a viable choice to implement a suite of applications on this
hardware? What is the state of the JVM? Are there restrictions, e.g.
accessing the Accelerometer or other hardware?

If we do not target Java, what API/framework should we target? I suspect for
2008.8 and future development, it would be Qt?

Thanks!

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Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD

2008-09-15 Thread Fredrik Wendt
mån 2008-09-15 klockan 19:50 +0200 skrev Previdi Roberto:
 On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  maybe i could keep it just to save my mp3s..

I recommend that you start using ogg - it's free from patent issues. :)

/ Fredrik


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OpenMoko enthusiasts at FSCONS

2008-09-15 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Hi.

I'm one of the lucky people about to attend this years Free Software
Conference Scandinavia (FSCONS). It's held in Gothenburg, Sweden, and
spans from Friday 24th to Sunday 26th October.

I'm told that there will be talk about OpenMoko this year (last year Ole
Tang held an introduction to the project) but there will be rooms (and
open areas) available for spontaneous meetings or talks.

If you plan to visit FSCONS I suggest you join the (guest) mailing list
at http://mail.fscons.org/mailman/listinfo or jump in on
irc://irc.freenode.net/fscons and say hi.

Apologies if you consider this to be spam.

Thanks to the OpenMoko project for giving me lots of reasons to stay up
too late, too often - it's great fun to play with the FreeRunner. :)

/ Fredrik Wendt, a FSO user


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Re: distribution choice

2008-09-15 Thread Warren Baird
Hi Kevin,

In terms of java support, I've experimented using a large and quite
complicated commercial java application on my freerunner, and it ran
surprisingly well - there were a few problems in some encryption code, but
the rest was pretty good.

However, the performance was not fantastic.   The jalimo (jvm) docs say that
performance is very bad for swing/awt apps, and this app made heavy use of
both.

I'd guess that if you use one of the GUI frameworks recommended by the
jalimo people, it'd be ok.

My understanding though is that a lot of people develop apps for the OM in
python using pygtk.   I haven't tried that yet myself, but it looks pretty
easy and powerful.

Good luck!

Warren


On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Kevin Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi all,

 My company is planning to roll out a suite of applications to be ran on the
 openmoko/freerunner platform.

 I'm researching which distribution would be best for our needs. We are not
 so concerned with the current state of available applications, since we will
 be writing out own.

 So here are a few questions that hopefully you guys can field:

 We are debating between Om 2007.2 and Om 2008.8.

 Which release is more stable? 2007.2 or 2008.8, in regards to the
 Freerunner.

 Is Java a viable choice to implement a suite of applications on this
 hardware? What is the state of the JVM? Are there restrictions, e.g.
 accessing the Accelerometer or other hardware?

 If we do not target Java, what API/framework should we target? I suspect
 for 2008.8 and future development, it would be Qt?

 Thanks!

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Re: distribution choice

2008-09-15 Thread Daniel Benoy
You should be able to make software that runs on all the distributions, because 
they have X11 in common.  If it can run on a Linux X11 PC with one mouse button 
and at 480x640, it should be able to run on any distribution in the forseeable 
future.

The rub comes when you plan to do something special with the phone hardware.  
(i.e. SIM card stuff, multiplexing the GSM modem, checking the cellular signal 
strength, etc) at that point, the method will vary from stack to stack.

The FSO stack was designed to help people in your situation.  They're looking 
for it to be the openmoko standard, regardless of which interface is running on 
it.  (i.e. The aim is to get the interfaces from 2007.2, 2008.8, zhone, 
qtopia-x11, etc. all using the same API for communicating with the special 
smart phone functionality I described above)

If all you're doing is manipulating files in flash or on the SD card and/or 
using IP networking, then you're probably not going to have to worry much about 
which stack you choose, but if you are doing anything else and you want to be 
reasonably future proof, then use the FSO distribution as your reference 
implementation.

Are you planning to make a it free software (FSF definition), or not?  Because 
the way you package the software will vary depending on which way you choose.  
With free software, you can get it published to the openmoko feeds, and the 
debian tree, etc and they'll take care of distributing it for you.  Otherwise, 
you're going to have to come up with something else.  (i.e. deb files and ipk 
files and such)

On Monday 15 September 2008 14:41:20 Kevin Dixon wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 My company is planning to roll out a suite of applications to be ran on the
 openmoko/freerunner platform.
 
 I'm researching which distribution would be best for our needs. We are not
 so concerned with the current state of available applications, since we will
 be writing out own.
 
 So here are a few questions that hopefully you guys can field:
 
 We are debating between Om 2007.2 and Om 2008.8.
 
 Which release is more stable? 2007.2 or 2008.8, in regards to the
 Freerunner.
 
 Is Java a viable choice to implement a suite of applications on this
 hardware? What is the state of the JVM? Are there restrictions, e.g.
 accessing the Accelerometer or other hardware?
 
 If we do not target Java, what API/framework should we target? I suspect for
 2008.8 and future development, it would be Qt?
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Kevin Dixon
 



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Re: Who has multiple devices?

2008-09-15 Thread Jay Vaughan
Wtf .. Please fix the bug! There are plenty of people who might want  
to mass update their freerunner sets..

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On Sep 15, 2008, at 17:51, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Al Johnson wrote:
 I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two  
 freerunners
 sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you  
 could just
 suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try  
 again.

 Agreed, that seems like the easiest way to manage it, I'll add this  
 for
 the next release of my script.

 Thanks for your info and advice :)

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Re: distribution choice

2008-09-15 Thread Neil Jerram
Hi, just one query on this:

2008/9/15 Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 You should be able to make software that runs on all the distributions, 
 because they have X11 in common.  If it can run on a Linux X11 PC with one 
 mouse button and at 480x640, it should be able to run on any distribution in 
 the forseeable future.

I think I read somewhere that Qtopia doesn't use X11, and instead
writes direct to the framebuffer - which I think would make it an
exception to the above statement.  Is that correct?

Regards,
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Fast dfu-util for Mac?

2008-09-15 Thread Linus Gasser
Hello all,

another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 
15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from

http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher

I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there 
another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody?

Linus



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Two u-boots?

2008-09-15 Thread Linus Gasser
Hello all,

I tried a couple of different distros (ASU 2008.8, Debian, now FDOM) and
have something strange: sometimes when powering on the device with
Aux+Power (because most of the time the power-button alone only vibrates
the phone shortly, but does nothing else), I get a u-boot from May 2008
(IIRC), and sometimes it's another one from August 2008. I think it has
to do with the Debian-installation on the SD-card. But I reformatted the
card in the meantime, shouldn't that be enough?

Anyway, how can I be sure I have a cleanly installed Neo? Isn't flashing

gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
FDOM-image.bin
FDOM-rootfs.jffs2

enough?

Thanks for any help,

Linus



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Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?

2008-09-15 Thread Ian
Wow, that's /almost/ a whole megabit O_O

No, seriously I've noticed that it takes forever to flash from Linux
too... Seems that the freerunner only has USB1.1 instead of 2.0, but
even taking the USB overhead into consideration it still seems awfully
slow. I guess that N800 of mine spoilt me with it's unnaturally fast
flash in a matter of seconds voodoo magic USB2 stuff.

It has occurred to me that it would actually be faster to reflash the
neo over wireless - not that I would recommend that practice for
hopefully obvious reasons.

Cheers,
-Ian

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Linus Gasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

 another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly
 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from

 http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher

 I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there
 another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody?

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Re: community written community update

2008-09-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 We all love Community Updates, but that's a huge endeavour for one person to
 tackle. So let us try a little social experiment here: community written
 community update. I just posted an outlined list of bullet points at:

Great, cool to see that the community is given respect this way! And
Minh, don't be too disappointed if it doesn't work.. It can take a
long time and careful guidance to build a community that actually
starts supporting itself..

I had a look at the site, it's great to see that you've already added
that much stuff there. I too hope that the community - either the
people who have done something or the rest who have been enjoying the
work of others add the news there - and please, if possible, try to
add a link pointing to a page where people can get more information
about it. What FDOM, where's the patch for thisandthis bug and so on.

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Re: Predictive keyboard not actually predictive?

2008-09-15 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/9/15 Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Can I take it that you both agree with what I was writing about?
 Yeah, you're right. Feel free to fix the wiki page.

Thanks, I've done that now:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Om_2008.8_Keyboarddiff=53993oldid=53456

Please let me know if you have any comments.  (Or just make further
edits, of course!)

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Re: Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
From which you also find sad news. :|

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote:
 I found this at rasterman.com
 which is raster's homepage
 
 Natanael Arndt wrote:
  Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl:

  http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png
  http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png
  http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png
 
 
  Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme.
 
  It looks amazingly good.
  
 
  Cool, where did you find this?
 
  I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your 
  FreeRunner.

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Re: Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread Andy Selby
2008/9/15 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 From which you also find sad news. :|

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote:
 I found this at rasterman.com
 which is raster's homepage

The sad news being Raster's quit the openmoko project, well not quite,
he is moving to the FSO project so you can still get enlightenment on
your neo.

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Re: Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread David Samblas
I hope we will still seeing you writting here and help us to pimp our
Neos as nowadays you only have achived.
A really really big hug to you Raster :)  
El lun, 15-09-2008 a las 22:04 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió:
 From which you also find sad news. :|
 
 On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote:
  I found this at rasterman.com
  which is raster's homepage
  
  Natanael Arndt wrote:
   Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl:
 
   http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png
   http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png
   http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png
  
  
   Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme.
  
   It looks amazingly good.
   
  
   Cool, where did you find this?
  
   I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your 
   FreeRunner.
 


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Re: Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:57:09PM +0100, Andy Selby wrote:
 2008/9/15 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  From which you also find sad news. :|
 
  On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote:
  I found this at rasterman.com
  which is raster's homepage
 
 The sad news being Raster's quit the openmoko project, well not quite,
 he is moving to the FSO project so you can still get enlightenment on
 your neo.

Those are not the sad news, because what he quit was from OpenMoko.com

The sad news is that now he'll have to dedicate a fair amount of his
time on a new source of income instead of all the interesting things :)

Rui

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Re: Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:13:39 +0200 Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png
 
 
 Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme.
 
 It looks amazingly good.

i don't do mockups... :) they pollute! :) it's real. ignore the clock and its
background - that's just a test app i wrote (called Ello). i'm in the middle of
doing illume extensions to e17's nw default theme. it's also part of having
added scalability (you know the buzzword everyone raves about with svg) to
edje - but it can selectively scale, not just force scaling on all things, thus
maintaining a pixel-perfect look for the little details and textures, but
scaling the important bits.

nothing available yet - sitting on my local disk. i have a bizarre bug to fix
and i do not know what the cause is yet (sunk many hours on the weekend into
digging into it) before i can move on. it's a bit of a showstopper.

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Re: Two u-boots?

2008-09-15 Thread Thomas B.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 09:28:10PM +0100, Linus Gasser wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I tried a couple of different distros (ASU 2008.8, Debian, now FDOM) and
 have something strange: sometimes when powering on the device with
 Aux+Power (because most of the time the power-button alone only vibrates
 the phone shortly, but does nothing else), I get a u-boot from May 2008
 (IIRC), and sometimes it's another one from August 2008.

That's intended. See

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner

HTH,
Thomas


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Should I update u-boot?

2008-09-15 Thread Glen Ogilvie

Hi,

I am just wondering if the is any reason to update the u-boot on my
freerunner from the factory default?

I have not been able to find anything on the Wiki that says if this is
actually would make any difference, so not sure if I should.

Regards
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Re: Should I update u-boot?

2008-09-15 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 08:56:20 Glen Ogilvie wrote:
 Hi,

 I am just wondering if the is any reason to update the u-boot on my
 freerunner from the factory default?

 I have not been able to find anything on the Wiki that says if this is
 actually would make any difference, so not sure if I should.

u-boot is effectively your bios and therefore fwiu facilitates power 
management and the like.

Certain features will benefit like suspend and booting from ext3.

Seeing as you have your nor u-boot, it doesn't hurt to try out a newer one in 
nand, you can always revert.

Hope that helps.

Sarton

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Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?

2008-09-15 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 06:27:59 Linus Gasser wrote:
 Hello all,

 another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly
 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from

 http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher

 I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there
 another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody?

No, the windows issue was more like 1 hour :S

That's a pretty typical time for flashing the rootfs.

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Re: Qtopia GPRS with ATT

2008-09-15 Thread Cory Wright
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:05 PM, yochaigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone know how to setup ATT GPRS for the qtopia freerunner (latest build).
 It just says pending and then fails. I don't know how to setup the ppp
 config file (can't remember the path at the moment) but I did set the gui
 config to wap.cingular to no avail.

I'd like to see the pppd config to connect to ATT GPRS as well.  I've
tried the instructions from the wiki but nothing has worked so far.
Does anyone have a working config for ATT?

I'm running Debian, but I can't imagine the configuration would be
that much different.

Thanks,

Cory

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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

2008-09-15 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Steve Mosher wrote:
 I encourage you to make these changes, marco. It will show people how 
 the contribution of one creative person can be modified by another.

I actually made some of those changes. My version is much more playable,
but it cannot be calibrated at this point (although it would be a very
easy change to allow calibration based on the initial position)

As for buttons on the screen, it's not possible to have them work
reliably, at least with the version of xglamo I'm using:
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1244#comment:41

I tried to allow using the screen to navigate through menus but this bug
prevents it :(


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Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo

2008-09-15 Thread SCarlson


 There is a patch available for glamo.c, it doesn't appear to be implemented
in any of the current packages, I've asked several times if someone had
already updated a package with the patch. No response so far.. I am 85%
finished with my mokobuild. That is my first priority... If someone else has
already compiled with patch, by all means.. where is it? 

Anyhow, I need it to work badly, so I will patch as soon as possible.

Scott

Charles-Henri Gros wrote:
 
 Steve Mosher wrote:
 I encourage you to make these changes, marco. It will show people how 
 the contribution of one creative person can be modified by another.
 
 I actually made some of those changes. My version is much more playable,
 but it cannot be calibrated at this point (although it would be a very
 easy change to allow calibration based on the initial position)
 
 As for buttons on the screen, it's not possible to have them work
 reliably, at least with the version of xglamo I'm using:
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1244#comment:41
 
 I tried to allow using the screen to navigate through menus but this bug
 prevents it :(
 
 
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Re: GSM Firmware crash

2008-09-15 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
 Hi all,
 
 Yesterday I experienced a crash of the GSM firmware - my Freerunner
 started to vibrate and there was a message on-screen that stated that
 the GSM Firmware had crashed and that I would be unable to use phone
 functionality. Is this a known bug?

I got this once, or twice but I wasn't ever able to fix this without 
rebooting the phone (also when connected to it via ssh).
Any tip?

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Re: distribution choice

2008-09-15 Thread nickd
It was recently modified so it can also run over X11

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtopiaOnX11
http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/x11

-Nick

Neil Jerram wrote:
 I think I read somewhere that Qtopia doesn't use X11, and instead
 writes direct to the framebuffer - which I think would make it an
 exception to the above statement.  Is that correct?

 Regards,
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Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?

2008-09-15 Thread nickd
Sarton look into running Linux inside VirtualBox. I believe it gives you 
direct access to all USB devices. Will cut 1hr down to a few minutes.

-Nick

Sarton O'Brien wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 September 2008 06:27:59 Linus Gasser wrote:
   
 Hello all,

 another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly
 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from

 http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher

 I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there
 another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody?
 

 No, the windows issue was more like 1 hour :S

 That's a pretty typical time for flashing the rootfs.

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(OM2008.8-update) (audio/GSM) alsamixer names

2008-09-15 Thread Vasco Névoa
Hi.

Some callers have been complaining my GSM microphone level is low, so 
I've been reading the threads about echo cancellation and alsa state 
files, but every time I walk into alsamixer I get lost.

I'd like to suggest different names for the Alsa controls, because quite 
frankly I cannot relate to the ones I see in alsamixer. But first I'd 
like to ask you guys if you feel the same need as me. Do you feel 
comfortable with the present alsa channel names, or would you like them 
to be clearer?
I think that these names are confusing and sometimes even misleading. 
They should be closer to the user... like for example, from (1) we know 
that the Voice interface is connected to the bluetooth interface; why 
not call it bluetooth?? The same goes for PCM; I know everybody 
knows that PCM means Pulse Code Modulated and that can only come from 
the CPU, but can't we make life easier on ourselves and call it CPU or 
SoC or System or something more obvious that says this is Linux's sound 
card? The Mic1 and Mic2 could be called HeadMic and BuiltInMic or 
something.

This would make it clearer for everyone messing with these settings, and 
so would help accelerate the troubleshooting of this complex system.

As to the more obscure controls, like the MUXers and the intermediate 
routing volume levels, I'd like them to be less distracting and more 
accurate; they are used for several things, so they should not be named 
for external objects; how about calling them their wolfson datasheet 
names, like LMSEL?...  this way we wouldn't need to constantly try to 
decode the meaning of each of these things, we'd just open up the 
picture (1) and everybody would know precisely what is being talked 
about...

Basically, I'm trying to propose a naming scheme that separates 
high-level stuff (like plain Headphones and Microphone volume) from 
low-level stuff  (like routing in the mixers). This would allow us 
newbies to play in alsamixer without fear of breaking some obscure 
routing that may later come back to bite us in the ear.

Does anyone know where the alsa channel names are defined (which file)?

Oh, and I think I see a bug: the channel names Headphone and Speaker 
are exchanged, as far as I can see. Phone call volume is controlled via 
Speaker and SoC music play is controlled via Headphone; Isn't this 
supposed to be the other way around? Please confirm/deny.

(1): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem#ALSA_Channels

Vasco Névoa.

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Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?

2008-09-15 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 11:51:10 nickd wrote:
 Sarton look into running Linux inside VirtualBox. I believe it gives you
 direct access to all USB devices. Will cut 1hr down to a few minutes.

Thanks Nick, I'm a big fan of virtualbox.

I actually run archlinux and my flash time is ~10mins.

My main point was that even on linux the time is still ~10 mins, where the 
original poster seemed to think that was a long time to wait on OSX.

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Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)

2008-09-15 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 When I used FSO for the first time, to workaround this, I simply 
 hardcoded my contacts in the zhone python files. It works well, also if 
 it's not so dynamic :P

   
 
 great Idea! my contacts don't change often, so that would work as an 
 interim method! :D
 
 any chance you could tell me what file(s) I need to modify, and how to 
 modify it (i.e example code, I don't [yet] speak python)?

I'm not using Zhone since some weeks, however I simply edited the file 
in /usr/bin/zhone (so hold updates! :P) adding my phonebook as shown in 
the file comments.
An example is written in the git zhone file [1] too at line 742.


[1] http://tinyurl.com/6r85q9

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Re: Mockup or what else?

2008-09-15 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
 On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:13:39 +0200 Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png
 http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png

 Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme.

 It looks amazingly good.
 
 i don't do mockups... :) they pollute! :) it's real. ignore the clock and its
 background - that's just a test app i wrote (called Ello). i'm in the middle 
 of
 doing illume extensions to e17's nw default theme.

Woow! That's really amazing... Rasterman you're always the only who can 
make us dreaming even more.

Btw I didn't read before the bad news about leaving Openmoko [1]... This 
made me really so much sad. Reading your latest mail I figured that your 
relationship with Om was not going so well (didn't they leave you enough 
space of developing how and what you'd have liked?), but I really hoped 
that this wouldn't ever happen... :(

Now that enlightenment is so important for Openmoko, what will be our 
future? Since the main E developer isn't anymore part of Openmoko, its 
development won't be anymore Om-focussed; then Rasterman in the near 
future could be occupied in other things, so his interest for e-embedded 
could decrease and with it also the quality of the software that we'll use.

However there's another question to Openmoko: another important 
developer left openmoko; unfortunately he's not the first of the list.
Why this happens so often? In every message I've read about, it's always 
stated that there's no so much openness as it should be.
This won't to be a flame, but we all know how people like Rasterman are 
important for the project. I can't really understand how we can throw 
those opportunities away...


[1] http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News

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Re: Should I update u-boot?

2008-09-15 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
 u-boot is effectively your bios and therefore fwiu facilitates power 
 management and the like.
 
 Certain features will benefit like suspend and booting from ext3.

I'dd add: recharging a Freerunner with a dead battery...

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Re: distribution choice

2008-09-15 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:49 AM, nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was recently modified so it can also run over X11

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtopiaOnX11
 http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/x11

 -Nick


What' is the future of Qtopia and QtopiaOnX11? The problem is not only
concerning the XServer/FB, but the middleware too.
As developer i have no problem to use QT api, as they will run on Qtopia/FB
and on Qt-classic/x11. This is different if i want use Qtopia/API versus
dbus/fso API.
As observer instead, i think/hope/suppose qtopiaonx11 will be patched to use
FSO or Trolltech will develop a dbus compatibility layer with the same FSO
API, otherwise was 2008.8 only a big waste of time?

 Nicola
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Re: Sim error: sim is missing

2008-09-15 Thread Erin Yueh
Alessandro De Noia wrote:
[]
 
 Thanks for the answer,
 here[1] you can found my logread output.
 According to this message[2], the problem is in the sim pin.
 
 [1] http://rafb.net/p/BTSiRN58.html
 [2]http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/gsmd-devel/2007-April/38.html

Yup, CMS error code 311 means 'SIM PIN necessary'. Have you saw a window 
  to enter your PIN number after booting-up? You have to enter correct 
PIN number and then you can register to the local GSM network normally.

Regards,
Erin

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