Re: FDOM updated
W.Kenworthy wrote: I am using the matching kernel and jffs file and a uboot of almost the same day. Going to try some of the other family members sims and see if they make a difference - shouldnt as this one works fine with 2007.2. I did see some others say its working for them - so far what seems to be happening is that the sim cant connect in time, qpe dies and never comes back. Have you tried asu stable with success? Going by your other posts, I'd imagine you know what you are doing, so good luck ;) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Custom kernel build
Hi, I'm trying to build a custom kernel with the patches. I've changed the linux-openmoko_2.6.24+git.bb to include the patches in SRC_URI. The problem is that make build-package-linux builds only 2.6.21 kernel and just wouldn't go to 2.6.24+git. I've changed the PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel to linux-openmoko and PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-openmoko to 2.6.24+git in openembedded/conf/machine/om-gta02.conf. It simply won't build the kernel at version 2.6.24+git. -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Who has multiple devices?
Hi, as per the 'DFUScript' thread, I've made a change to my flashing / backup utility to enable support for more than one attached DFU-capable device, but I'm interested to know what happens if you have more than one of the same device attached and booted into NAND/NOR. So, if you have more than one freerunner or more than one Neo1973, could I please ask you to boot them both/all into NAND/NOR, run dfu-util -l, and post the output here for me, along with what you had attached (i.e two freerunners, two 1973's, etc)? this would be a great help. thanks! -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel Build without OE tools
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, | | I am also trying to build the kernel the old fashioned way. So I did : | | git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6 | cd linux-2.6 | git checkout origin/stable | | and now I did some of my custom patching but then at the point of | doing make I got stuck on the variable CROSS_COMPILE=? and ARCH=? | | Normally, when building generic arm kernel for qemu I used to do | | #make vmlinux CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux ARCH=arm Have a look in the ./build script in our kernel sources. Basically you need to download the toolchain tarball http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain to get the cross compilers down /usr/local/openmoko, and edit export CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- in ./build. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjOClcACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpwvwCfQOKk6PaaeaC2kkaea9hre7KM y2gAn2FMciX08kpJNwovW2YkeXR+PhY2 =Yb2g -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Firmware crash
http://dennisharting.blogspot.com/2008/09/life-of-choices.html Life is nothing more than a series of choices. All day long we are making choices which affect the quality of our lives. This is not a novel concept to anyone. However, most choose to focus upon the major decisions which have a big impact on life. To change your life, these choices must be made differently is the common belief. Unfortunately, these aren't the selections which usually hinder people's lives. Instead, it is the day-to-day decisions which determine how life progresses. Improvement is a daily activity. The best way to improve in any area of life is to make daily progress. Over time, this adds up to result in a major difference. Each decision will build on the previous so that after a few months, one literally thinks completely different. Many small changes do have an effect. Here are threlse experienced this? Regards, Andreas Fischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIzSlU5Fl7TYZQYwERArBhAJwOYoob42BF4r+3Xp6kRntzNMrTAQCfaDFY Bv55wGMLFf2z3saHvUP7j6M= =MBPA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia opkg sources
On Sunday 14 September 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Hello I use Qtopia 4.3.3 snapshot (it is stable and fast), but for about a week ago the sources to opkg was removed, or buildhost.openmoko.org was removed. Does anyone know where the Qtopia sources are? The move from buildhost.openmoko.org to downloads.openmoko.org was announced on this list and has been mentioned many times since. AFAIK this never held the source for Qtopia 4.3.3 though - that has always come from trolltech, although the latest SDK for openmoko seems to be 4.3.2 there: http://qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who has multiple devices?
On Monday 15 September 2008, Dale Maggee wrote: Hi, as per the 'DFUScript' thread, I've made a change to my flashing / backup utility to enable support for more than one attached DFU-capable device, but I'm interested to know what happens if you have more than one of the same device attached and booted into NAND/NOR. So, if you have more than one freerunner or more than one Neo1973, could I please ask you to boot them both/all into NAND/NOR, run dfu-util -l, and post the output here for me, along with what you had attached (i.e two freerunners, two 1973's, etc)? this would be a great help. Two freerunners in NOR connected directly to the host: # dfu-util -l dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who has multiple devices?
Al Johnson wrote: On Monday 15 September 2008, Dale Maggee wrote: Hi, as per the 'DFUScript' thread, I've made a change to my flashing / backup utility to enable support for more than one attached DFU-capable device, but I'm interested to know what happens if you have more than one of the same device attached and booted into NAND/NOR. So, if you have more than one freerunner or more than one Neo1973, could I please ask you to boot them both/all into NAND/NOR, run dfu-util -l, and post the output here for me, along with what you had attached (i.e two freerunners, two 1973's, etc)? this would be a great help. Two freerunners in NOR connected directly to the host: # dfu-util -l dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade Thanks Al, hmmm, interesting... Do you have any Idea how you would choose which one to flash if both were in NOR when you run dfu-util? the only difference I can see between those two devices is the devnum=x bit, but dfu-util -h doesn't seem to provide any method for providing this when flashing. could you perhaps use 'dfu-util --path bus-port. ... .port'? If so, what would you give it? I think the answer might end up being if you have two freerunners, make sure that they're not both in NAND/NOR when you flash ;) Thanks, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: *new version* A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:13 AM, fredrik normann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have been developing small python wx-based gui that currently can be used for flashing, log data obtaining and is able to do some backup (last two via ssh). I'd be glad to share if you want. (Just will need to do some docstrings). yeah, I'd be really interested in seeing it! I don't really know any python yet, but I've looked into it a little bit lately, and I've decided I want to learn it, so if you share what you have it will probably help my learning and I can probably contribute to it. I thought about doing this in Python aswell. I got enought time, so if you want to share what you've done so fare, that would be great. Okay. I didn't really expected that somebody would be interested. Than, what project hosting is preferably used by OM community? Is it http://projects.openmoko.org/ ? Or something else? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Running a PyGTK application
enggak mas. insyaallah saya bawa stang bunder merah :) 2008/9/13 Adi Prasetyo Soenarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] mas Eko bawa si cabe merahnya? SOL 2008/9/13 Eko Mulyo Hadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wadoh saya blom tau infonya mas mas Alfian tuh yang kerja di Telkomsel mungkin tahu ya coba nanti tak carikan infonya, kalo ada langsung di kabari ke Kendal Online :) salam Eko 2008/9/13 Muhtadin Kdl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mas Eko minta inro mudik motor telkomsel dong..? Trims sebelumnya.
Re: Sim error: sim is missing
Thank you for your interest in Lotto Magic. So what is Lotto Magic you ask? Well its a Home Business and benefits club/savings club. Meaning you can earn $100s or $1000s per month and gain access to discounts from top name online stores, huge savings on vacations, entertainment tickets such as concerts, movies, and sporting events. I mean, you name it and they will save you a lot of money on it. Plus you earn big commission checks while being entered in the Florida lottery, meaning you could become an instant MILLIONAIRE! http://flalottomagic.net/?p0615 or http://freelottomagic.com/?p0615 Their are 2 different memberships: Team Player and Team Captain.nbsp; nbsp; Team Players get all benefits and are placed in a Lottery Pool with 7 other members. If anyones numbers hit, you each win 10% of the prize money. To join as a Team Player costs $25 per month, but you are not allowed to earn commission as a Team Player. nbsp; Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Reply via email to Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Reply via email to Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Iker Berasaluce Reply via email to Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Iker Berasaluce Re: Sim error: sim is missing Rafael Campos Reply via email to Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Iker Berasaluce Re: Sim error: sim is missing Rafael Campos Re: Sim error: sim is missing Iker Berasaluce Reply via email to Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Alessandro De Noia Re: Sim error: sim is missing Erin Yueh Re: Sim error: sim is missing Iker Berasaluce Re: Sim error: sim is missing Rafael Campos Re: Sim error: sim is missing Iker Berasaluce Re: Sim error: sim is missing Rafael Campos Reply via email to Predictive keyboard not actually predictive? Neil Jerram Re: Predictive keyboard not actually predictive? Rui Miguel Silva Seabra Re: Predictive keyboard not actually predictive? Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson Re: Predictive keyboard not actually predictive? Neil Jerram Re: Predictive keyboard not actually predictive? Yogiz Re: Predictive keyboard not actually predictive? Neil Jerram Reply via email to
Re: [debian] daily kernel and modules package
If you are using the Presto yum plugin, the key change should have gone without a hitch, except for the minor detail that there were no deltarpms for the 600+ MB of updates. We have managed to get the .newkey repositories properly deltarpm'd now, but the default fedora-updates-newkey.repo doesn't point to the correct mirrorlist. To use the Presto test repositories for .newkey packages, after installing fedora-release-9-5.transition, you need to set change fedora-updates-newkey.repo so that the mirrorlist line is as follows: mirrorlist=http://presto-mirrors.anmar.eu.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f$releasever.newkeyarch=$basearch For more information, please check http://fedorahosted.org/presto. Jonathan Dieter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: tp://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community">http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ?
-> Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? community -- Thread -- -- Date -- Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Harald Koenig Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:28:42 -0700 MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Harald Koenig Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Nicola Mfb Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Harald Koenig Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Rod Whitby Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Nicola Mfb Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Rod Whitby Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Nicola Mfb Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Rod Whitby Re: MonoMakefile: how to build navit-svn instead of navit-0.0.4 ? Harald Koenig Reply via email to
Re: QCop server not running
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 15:02 +0200, Martin Vyšný wrote: Hi, I'm using the FDOM distro. I just updated packages with opkg update opkg upgrade and now the qtopia applications are failing to start: # DISPLAY=:0 /opt/Qtopia/bin/addressbook ApplicationLayer: Unable to connect to server, application layer will be disabled. Could not connect to QCop server; probably not running. Can you please help me on how to start the QCop server? ;) Thanks! Martin My bad, it seems that the qpe server was not running. Cheers, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who has multiple devices?
On Monday 15 September 2008, Dale Maggee wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Monday 15 September 2008, Dale Maggee wrote: Hi, as per the 'DFUScript' thread, I've made a change to my flashing / backup utility to enable support for more than one attached DFU-capable device, but I'm interested to know what happens if you have more than one of the same device attached and booted into NAND/NOR. So, if you have more than one freerunner or more than one Neo1973, could I please ask you to boot them both/all into NAND/NOR, run dfu-util -l, and post the output here for me, along with what you had attached (i.e two freerunners, two 1973's, etc)? this would be a great help. Two freerunners in NOR connected directly to the host: # dfu-util -l dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade Thanks Al, hmmm, interesting... Do you have any Idea how you would choose which one to flash if both were in NOR when you run dfu-util? the only difference I can see between those two devices is the devnum=x bit, but dfu-util -h doesn't seem to provide any method for providing this when flashing. could you perhaps use 'dfu-util --path bus-port. ... .port'? If so, what would you give it? Don't know - a look at the source seems in order since the online help is less than explicit, and the wiki doesn't mention -p at all. I think the answer might end up being if you have two freerunners, make sure that they're not both in NAND/NOR when you flash ;) I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ASU 2008.9
Is there a way to get a today screen in ASU (maybe qtopia's) like there used to be in 2007.2 ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QCop server not running [FDOM]
Have you tried? ln /opt/Qtopia/bin/qcop /usr/bin/qcop -s proposed previously on the list? please specifiy FDOM in the topic to don't worry not-FDOM users with broken updates Regards David Samblas 02 +0200, Martin Vyšný escribió: Hi, I'm using the FDOM distro. I just updated packages with opkg update opkg upgrade and now the qtopia applications are failing to start: # DISPLAY=:0 /opt/Qtopia/bin/addressbook ApplicationLayer: Unable to connect to server, application layer will be disabled. Could not connect to QCop server; probably not running. Can you please help me on how to start the QCop server? ;) Thanks! Martin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
community written community update
Hi all, We all love Community Updates, but that's a huge endeavour for one person to tackle. So let us try a little social experiment here: community written community update. I just posted an outlined list of bullet points at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/15th_September%2C_2008_-_Activity_since_launch The plan is to leave it to everybody else to elaborate along the following editorial guidelines: 1. Include everything that was hot on a mailing lists at some point since launch. 2. Limit each point to three sentences and one link. Yours truly. Minh, Volunteer wiki editor (Curious and impatient to see if it works.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who has multiple devices?
by 'dfu-util -l' you see dfu capable devices and it's addresses then you can specify which device you want to flash by attribute '-d hw-address' see 'dfu-util -h' On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Iker Berasaluce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again. Is that always possible? I mean, I have a built in webcam in my laptop that is always detected by DFU, thus making it unable for flashing the FR as far as I tried, that hasn't been too much. I'm looking for a way to tell the DFU wich device I want to flash removing none of them. And that would be useful for the script. -- Iker Berasaluce Departamento de Informatica Fulcrum SA ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who has multiple devices?
Al Johnson wrote: I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again. Agreed, that seems like the easiest way to manage it, I'll add this for the next release of my script. Thanks for your info and advice :) -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who has multiple devices?
On Monday 15 September 2008, Iker Berasaluce wrote: I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again. Is that always possible? I mean, I have a built in webcam in my laptop that is always detected by DFU, thus making it unable for flashing the FR as far as I tried, that hasn't been too much. I'm looking for a way to tell the DFU wich device I want to flash removing none of them. And that would be useful for the script. Your webcam doesn't (or shouldn't) have the same manufacturer and product identifiers as an openmoko so you should just be able to use: dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a rootfs -R -D my_rootfs.jffs2 With two freerunners we can't do that because they both have the same identifiers. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who has multiple devices?
Iker Berasaluce wrote: I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again. Is that always possible? I mean, I have a built in webcam in my laptop that is always detected by DFU, thus making it unable for flashing the FR as far as I tried, that hasn't been too much. I'm looking for a way to tell the DFU wich device I want to flash removing none of them. And that would be useful for the script. As Al Indicated, we're talking about when you have two of the same device attached. I already have my script detecting multiple devices and showing a list which allows you to select which device to flash. This will be in the next release, I'm just waiting on a couple of guys to test it out and confirm that it works. (I only have one dfu-capable device, so I can't test it properly) -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you confirm if you need the idle clock set to 1? What I think I understood about this issue is that it is timeout-related only, it means I didn't actually understand what is going on if it needs idle clocks too. i am now sure: i don't need it. I made many other experiments (about log2(50)) and i found out that the maximum value for the sd_max_clock which can still read the card is int(50MHz / 19) =2631578 Hz (why this value? maybe something crucial happens at low level when you raise from this value?) Anyway, i don't absolutely need the idleclock, it was just one of the thing tried to make it work. Probably the problem is just that i bought a very slow card.. I hope that performances will be sufficient to boot something from it, or maybe i could keep it just to save my mp3s.. i attach my u-boot environment, just in case anyone pass through the same pain he can try to take inspiration from it. the menus which successfully boot with the card are the 4 and the 10. if any other test could be useful to debug just tell me what to do.. at the moment i don't mind loosing the card content, i just put an experimental environment inside, and it seems not to boot very well.. roby u-boot-environment.txt.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QCop server not running [FDOM]
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 16:18 +0200, David Samblas wrote: Have you tried? ln /opt/Qtopia/bin/qcop /usr/bin/qcop -s proposed previously on the list? please specifiy FDOM in the topic to don't worry not-FDOM users with broken updates Regards David Samblas Thank you for your tip. I'll use a FDOM: prefix from now on. Thanks! 02 +0200, Martin Vyšný escribió: Hi, I'm using the FDOM distro. I just updated packages with opkg update opkg upgrade and now the qtopia applications are failing to start: # DISPLAY=:0 /opt/Qtopia/bin/addressbook ApplicationLayer: Unable to connect to server, application layer will be disabled. Could not connect to QCop server; probably not running. Can you please help me on how to start the QCop server? ;) Thanks! Martin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Mockup or what else?
http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme. It looks amazingly good. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mockup or what else?
Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl: http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme. It looks amazingly good. Cool, where did you find this? I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your FreeRunner. be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who has multiple devices?
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Martin Šenkeřík [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: by 'dfu-util -l' you see dfu capable devices and it's addresses then you can specify which device you want to flash by attribute '-d hw-address' see 'dfu-util -h' On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Iker Berasaluce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again. Is that always possible? I mean, I have a built in webcam in my laptop that is always detected by DFU, thus making it unable for flashing the FR as far as I tried, that hasn't been too much. I'm looking for a way to tell the DFU wich device I want to flash removing none of them. And that would be useful for the script. -- Iker Berasaluce Departamento de Informatica Fulcrum SA ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community The original reference to *multiple devices* was having more than one OM phone plugged in...not other USB devices. The script allows keeping other USB devicies plugged in but obviously can't differentiate when two OMs are plugged in. -- Michael Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mockup or what else?
I found this at rasterman.com which is raster's homepage Natanael Arndt wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl: http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme. It looks amazingly good. Cool, where did you find this? I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your FreeRunner. be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] xglamo howto?
Does installing the xglamo package have a significant impact on basic UI performance (e.g. not video, but opening/closing windows, menus, etc..)? Thanks! Hi arne! I tested your package and it works as described. Thanks! It's great to have glamo and xrandr working in debian.. However there are some issues for me at this point: 1: running 'xrandr -o 1' twice results in still beeing in landscape mode but having a somehow messed up pointercalibration: clicks are about a 1/3 screen too far right. 2: I've set up debian with xfce as described in [1]. When restarting xfce I see X starting up 5 times, ending with a blank screen, showing INIT: Id 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. Running 'xinit' as root from a ssh-session does work, (xfce comes up really fast!), but there are some problems with fonts, panel- and other configurations, e.g. cell-writer training data... I'm sure especially 2 is some kind of xinit-configuration issue - any hints? Cheers, radl [1]http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Running_X_as_normal_user ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
distribution choice
Hi all, My company is planning to roll out a suite of applications to be ran on the openmoko/freerunner platform. I'm researching which distribution would be best for our needs. We are not so concerned with the current state of available applications, since we will be writing out own. So here are a few questions that hopefully you guys can field: We are debating between Om 2007.2 and Om 2008.8. Which release is more stable? 2007.2 or 2008.8, in regards to the Freerunner. Is Java a viable choice to implement a suite of applications on this hardware? What is the state of the JVM? Are there restrictions, e.g. accessing the Accelerometer or other hardware? If we do not target Java, what API/framework should we target? I suspect for 2008.8 and future development, it would be Qt? Thanks! -Kevin Dixon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
mån 2008-09-15 klockan 19:50 +0200 skrev Previdi Roberto: On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe i could keep it just to save my mp3s.. I recommend that you start using ogg - it's free from patent issues. :) / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko enthusiasts at FSCONS
Hi. I'm one of the lucky people about to attend this years Free Software Conference Scandinavia (FSCONS). It's held in Gothenburg, Sweden, and spans from Friday 24th to Sunday 26th October. I'm told that there will be talk about OpenMoko this year (last year Ole Tang held an introduction to the project) but there will be rooms (and open areas) available for spontaneous meetings or talks. If you plan to visit FSCONS I suggest you join the (guest) mailing list at http://mail.fscons.org/mailman/listinfo or jump in on irc://irc.freenode.net/fscons and say hi. Apologies if you consider this to be spam. Thanks to the OpenMoko project for giving me lots of reasons to stay up too late, too often - it's great fun to play with the FreeRunner. :) / Fredrik Wendt, a FSO user signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distribution choice
Hi Kevin, In terms of java support, I've experimented using a large and quite complicated commercial java application on my freerunner, and it ran surprisingly well - there were a few problems in some encryption code, but the rest was pretty good. However, the performance was not fantastic. The jalimo (jvm) docs say that performance is very bad for swing/awt apps, and this app made heavy use of both. I'd guess that if you use one of the GUI frameworks recommended by the jalimo people, it'd be ok. My understanding though is that a lot of people develop apps for the OM in python using pygtk. I haven't tried that yet myself, but it looks pretty easy and powerful. Good luck! Warren On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Kevin Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi all, My company is planning to roll out a suite of applications to be ran on the openmoko/freerunner platform. I'm researching which distribution would be best for our needs. We are not so concerned with the current state of available applications, since we will be writing out own. So here are a few questions that hopefully you guys can field: We are debating between Om 2007.2 and Om 2008.8. Which release is more stable? 2007.2 or 2008.8, in regards to the Freerunner. Is Java a viable choice to implement a suite of applications on this hardware? What is the state of the JVM? Are there restrictions, e.g. accessing the Accelerometer or other hardware? If we do not target Java, what API/framework should we target? I suspect for 2008.8 and future development, it would be Qt? Thanks! -Kevin Dixon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distribution choice
You should be able to make software that runs on all the distributions, because they have X11 in common. If it can run on a Linux X11 PC with one mouse button and at 480x640, it should be able to run on any distribution in the forseeable future. The rub comes when you plan to do something special with the phone hardware. (i.e. SIM card stuff, multiplexing the GSM modem, checking the cellular signal strength, etc) at that point, the method will vary from stack to stack. The FSO stack was designed to help people in your situation. They're looking for it to be the openmoko standard, regardless of which interface is running on it. (i.e. The aim is to get the interfaces from 2007.2, 2008.8, zhone, qtopia-x11, etc. all using the same API for communicating with the special smart phone functionality I described above) If all you're doing is manipulating files in flash or on the SD card and/or using IP networking, then you're probably not going to have to worry much about which stack you choose, but if you are doing anything else and you want to be reasonably future proof, then use the FSO distribution as your reference implementation. Are you planning to make a it free software (FSF definition), or not? Because the way you package the software will vary depending on which way you choose. With free software, you can get it published to the openmoko feeds, and the debian tree, etc and they'll take care of distributing it for you. Otherwise, you're going to have to come up with something else. (i.e. deb files and ipk files and such) On Monday 15 September 2008 14:41:20 Kevin Dixon wrote: Hi all, My company is planning to roll out a suite of applications to be ran on the openmoko/freerunner platform. I'm researching which distribution would be best for our needs. We are not so concerned with the current state of available applications, since we will be writing out own. So here are a few questions that hopefully you guys can field: We are debating between Om 2007.2 and Om 2008.8. Which release is more stable? 2007.2 or 2008.8, in regards to the Freerunner. Is Java a viable choice to implement a suite of applications on this hardware? What is the state of the JVM? Are there restrictions, e.g. accessing the Accelerometer or other hardware? If we do not target Java, what API/framework should we target? I suspect for 2008.8 and future development, it would be Qt? Thanks! -Kevin Dixon -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Who has multiple devices?
Wtf .. Please fix the bug! There are plenty of people who might want to mass update their freerunner sets.. ; -- ibi sum On Sep 15, 2008, at 17:51, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al Johnson wrote: I can't think of a situation where I would accidentally have two freerunners sitting in uboot. If -l shows more than one suitable device you could just suggest they remove all but the one that needs programming and try again. Agreed, that seems like the easiest way to manage it, I'll add this for the next release of my script. Thanks for your info and advice :) -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distribution choice
Hi, just one query on this: 2008/9/15 Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You should be able to make software that runs on all the distributions, because they have X11 in common. If it can run on a Linux X11 PC with one mouse button and at 480x640, it should be able to run on any distribution in the forseeable future. I think I read somewhere that Qtopia doesn't use X11, and instead writes direct to the framebuffer - which I think would make it an exception to the above statement. Is that correct? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fast dfu-util for Mac?
Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Two u-boots?
Hello all, I tried a couple of different distros (ASU 2008.8, Debian, now FDOM) and have something strange: sometimes when powering on the device with Aux+Power (because most of the time the power-button alone only vibrates the phone shortly, but does nothing else), I get a u-boot from May 2008 (IIRC), and sometimes it's another one from August 2008. I think it has to do with the Debian-installation on the SD-card. But I reformatted the card in the meantime, shouldn't that be enough? Anyway, how can I be sure I have a cleanly installed Neo? Isn't flashing gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin FDOM-image.bin FDOM-rootfs.jffs2 enough? Thanks for any help, Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
Wow, that's /almost/ a whole megabit O_O No, seriously I've noticed that it takes forever to flash from Linux too... Seems that the freerunner only has USB1.1 instead of 2.0, but even taking the USB overhead into consideration it still seems awfully slow. I guess that N800 of mine spoilt me with it's unnaturally fast flash in a matter of seconds voodoo magic USB2 stuff. It has occurred to me that it would actually be faster to reflash the neo over wireless - not that I would recommend that practice for hopefully obvious reasons. Cheers, -Ian On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Linus Gasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Erik Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community written community update
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We all love Community Updates, but that's a huge endeavour for one person to tackle. So let us try a little social experiment here: community written community update. I just posted an outlined list of bullet points at: Great, cool to see that the community is given respect this way! And Minh, don't be too disappointed if it doesn't work.. It can take a long time and careful guidance to build a community that actually starts supporting itself.. I had a look at the site, it's great to see that you've already added that much stuff there. I too hope that the community - either the people who have done something or the rest who have been enjoying the work of others add the news there - and please, if possible, try to add a link pointing to a page where people can get more information about it. What FDOM, where's the patch for thisandthis bug and so on. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Predictive keyboard not actually predictive?
2008/9/15 Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can I take it that you both agree with what I was writing about? Yeah, you're right. Feel free to fix the wiki page. Thanks, I've done that now: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Om_2008.8_Keyboarddiff=53993oldid=53456 Please let me know if you have any comments. (Or just make further edits, of course!) Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mockup or what else?
From which you also find sad news. :| On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote: I found this at rasterman.com which is raster's homepage Natanael Arndt wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl: http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme. It looks amazingly good. Cool, where did you find this? I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your FreeRunner. -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Pungenday, the 39th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mockup or what else?
2008/9/15 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From which you also find sad news. :| On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote: I found this at rasterman.com which is raster's homepage The sad news being Raster's quit the openmoko project, well not quite, he is moving to the FSO project so you can still get enlightenment on your neo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mockup or what else?
I hope we will still seeing you writting here and help us to pimp our Neos as nowadays you only have achived. A really really big hug to you Raster :) El lun, 15-09-2008 a las 22:04 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió: From which you also find sad news. :| On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote: I found this at rasterman.com which is raster's homepage Natanael Arndt wrote: Am Montag, 15. September 2008 schrieb Bumbl: http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme. It looks amazingly good. Cool, where did you find this? I only found this: http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ to pimp your FreeRunner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mockup or what else?
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:57:09PM +0100, Andy Selby wrote: 2008/9/15 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From which you also find sad news. :| On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:25:43PM +0200, Bumbl wrote: I found this at rasterman.com which is raster's homepage The sad news being Raster's quit the openmoko project, well not quite, he is moving to the FSO project so you can still get enlightenment on your neo. Those are not the sad news, because what he quit was from OpenMoko.com The sad news is that now he'll have to dedicate a fair amount of his time on a new source of income instead of all the interesting things :) Rui -- Fnord. Today is Pungenday, the 39th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mockup or what else?
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:13:39 +0200 Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme. It looks amazingly good. i don't do mockups... :) they pollute! :) it's real. ignore the clock and its background - that's just a test app i wrote (called Ello). i'm in the middle of doing illume extensions to e17's nw default theme. it's also part of having added scalability (you know the buzzword everyone raves about with svg) to edje - but it can selectively scale, not just force scaling on all things, thus maintaining a pixel-perfect look for the little details and textures, but scaling the important bits. nothing available yet - sitting on my local disk. i have a bizarre bug to fix and i do not know what the cause is yet (sunk many hours on the weekend into digging into it) before i can move on. it's a bit of a showstopper. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two u-boots?
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 09:28:10PM +0100, Linus Gasser wrote: Hello all, I tried a couple of different distros (ASU 2008.8, Debian, now FDOM) and have something strange: sometimes when powering on the device with Aux+Power (because most of the time the power-button alone only vibrates the phone shortly, but does nothing else), I get a u-boot from May 2008 (IIRC), and sometimes it's another one from August 2008. That's intended. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner HTH, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Should I update u-boot?
Hi, I am just wondering if the is any reason to update the u-boot on my freerunner from the factory default? I have not been able to find anything on the Wiki that says if this is actually would make any difference, so not sure if I should. Regards Glen Ogilvie ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Should I update u-boot?
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 08:56:20 Glen Ogilvie wrote: Hi, I am just wondering if the is any reason to update the u-boot on my freerunner from the factory default? I have not been able to find anything on the Wiki that says if this is actually would make any difference, so not sure if I should. u-boot is effectively your bios and therefore fwiu facilitates power management and the like. Certain features will benefit like suspend and booting from ext3. Seeing as you have your nor u-boot, it doesn't hurt to try out a newer one in nand, you can always revert. Hope that helps. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 06:27:59 Linus Gasser wrote: Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? No, the windows issue was more like 1 hour :S That's a pretty typical time for flashing the rootfs. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia GPRS with ATT
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:05 PM, yochaigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know how to setup ATT GPRS for the qtopia freerunner (latest build). It just says pending and then fails. I don't know how to setup the ppp config file (can't remember the path at the moment) but I did set the gui config to wap.cingular to no avail. I'd like to see the pppd config to connect to ATT GPRS as well. I've tried the instructions from the wiki but nothing has worked so far. Does anyone have a working config for ATT? I'm running Debian, but I can't imagine the configuration would be that much different. Thanks, Cory ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
Steve Mosher wrote: I encourage you to make these changes, marco. It will show people how the contribution of one creative person can be modified by another. I actually made some of those changes. My version is much more playable, but it cannot be calibrated at this point (although it would be a very easy change to allow calibration based on the initial position) As for buttons on the screen, it's not possible to have them work reliably, at least with the version of xglamo I'm using: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1244#comment:41 I tried to allow using the screen to navigate through menus but this bug prevents it :( -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
There is a patch available for glamo.c, it doesn't appear to be implemented in any of the current packages, I've asked several times if someone had already updated a package with the patch. No response so far.. I am 85% finished with my mokobuild. That is my first priority... If someone else has already compiled with patch, by all means.. where is it? Anyhow, I need it to work badly, so I will patch as soon as possible. Scott Charles-Henri Gros wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: I encourage you to make these changes, marco. It will show people how the contribution of one creative person can be modified by another. I actually made some of those changes. My version is much more playable, but it cannot be calibrated at this point (although it would be a very easy change to allow calibration based on the initial position) As for buttons on the screen, it's not possible to have them work reliably, at least with the version of xglamo I'm using: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1244#comment:41 I tried to allow using the screen to navigate through menus but this bug prevents it :( -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Duke-Nukem-3D-on-Openmoko-Neo-tp842627p1091674.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Firmware crash
Hi all, Yesterday I experienced a crash of the GSM firmware - my Freerunner started to vibrate and there was a message on-screen that stated that the GSM Firmware had crashed and that I would be unable to use phone functionality. Is this a known bug? I got this once, or twice but I wasn't ever able to fix this without rebooting the phone (also when connected to it via ssh). Any tip? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distribution choice
It was recently modified so it can also run over X11 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtopiaOnX11 http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/x11 -Nick Neil Jerram wrote: I think I read somewhere that Qtopia doesn't use X11, and instead writes direct to the framebuffer - which I think would make it an exception to the above statement. Is that correct? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
Sarton look into running Linux inside VirtualBox. I believe it gives you direct access to all USB devices. Will cut 1hr down to a few minutes. -Nick Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 06:27:59 Linus Gasser wrote: Hello all, another question: if I boot the jffs from FDOM (97MB), it takes nearly 15 minutes on my Mac with the dfu-util from http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher I heard somebody complain about the same issue on Windows. Is there another solution than to install Linux on my Mac? Anybody? No, the windows issue was more like 1 hour :S That's a pretty typical time for flashing the rootfs. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(OM2008.8-update) (audio/GSM) alsamixer names
Hi. Some callers have been complaining my GSM microphone level is low, so I've been reading the threads about echo cancellation and alsa state files, but every time I walk into alsamixer I get lost. I'd like to suggest different names for the Alsa controls, because quite frankly I cannot relate to the ones I see in alsamixer. But first I'd like to ask you guys if you feel the same need as me. Do you feel comfortable with the present alsa channel names, or would you like them to be clearer? I think that these names are confusing and sometimes even misleading. They should be closer to the user... like for example, from (1) we know that the Voice interface is connected to the bluetooth interface; why not call it bluetooth?? The same goes for PCM; I know everybody knows that PCM means Pulse Code Modulated and that can only come from the CPU, but can't we make life easier on ourselves and call it CPU or SoC or System or something more obvious that says this is Linux's sound card? The Mic1 and Mic2 could be called HeadMic and BuiltInMic or something. This would make it clearer for everyone messing with these settings, and so would help accelerate the troubleshooting of this complex system. As to the more obscure controls, like the MUXers and the intermediate routing volume levels, I'd like them to be less distracting and more accurate; they are used for several things, so they should not be named for external objects; how about calling them their wolfson datasheet names, like LMSEL?... this way we wouldn't need to constantly try to decode the meaning of each of these things, we'd just open up the picture (1) and everybody would know precisely what is being talked about... Basically, I'm trying to propose a naming scheme that separates high-level stuff (like plain Headphones and Microphone volume) from low-level stuff (like routing in the mixers). This would allow us newbies to play in alsamixer without fear of breaking some obscure routing that may later come back to bite us in the ear. Does anyone know where the alsa channel names are defined (which file)? Oh, and I think I see a bug: the channel names Headphone and Speaker are exchanged, as far as I can see. Phone call volume is controlled via Speaker and SoC music play is controlled via Headphone; Isn't this supposed to be the other way around? Please confirm/deny. (1): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem#ALSA_Channels Vasco Névoa. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fast dfu-util for Mac?
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 11:51:10 nickd wrote: Sarton look into running Linux inside VirtualBox. I believe it gives you direct access to all USB devices. Will cut 1hr down to a few minutes. Thanks Nick, I'm a big fan of virtualbox. I actually run archlinux and my flash time is ~10mins. My main point was that even on linux the time is still ~10 mins, where the original poster seemed to think that was a long time to wait on OSX. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO milestone3 my view (ON gta01)
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: When I used FSO for the first time, to workaround this, I simply hardcoded my contacts in the zhone python files. It works well, also if it's not so dynamic :P great Idea! my contacts don't change often, so that would work as an interim method! :D any chance you could tell me what file(s) I need to modify, and how to modify it (i.e example code, I don't [yet] speak python)? I'm not using Zhone since some weeks, however I simply edited the file in /usr/bin/zhone (so hold updates! :P) adding my phonebook as shown in the file comments. An example is written in the git zhone file [1] too at line 742. [1] http://tinyurl.com/6r85q9 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mockup or what else?
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:13:39 +0200 Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-01.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-02.png http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-new-03.png Are these mockups or where can I obtain this theme. It looks amazingly good. i don't do mockups... :) they pollute! :) it's real. ignore the clock and its background - that's just a test app i wrote (called Ello). i'm in the middle of doing illume extensions to e17's nw default theme. Woow! That's really amazing... Rasterman you're always the only who can make us dreaming even more. Btw I didn't read before the bad news about leaving Openmoko [1]... This made me really so much sad. Reading your latest mail I figured that your relationship with Om was not going so well (didn't they leave you enough space of developing how and what you'd have liked?), but I really hoped that this wouldn't ever happen... :( Now that enlightenment is so important for Openmoko, what will be our future? Since the main E developer isn't anymore part of Openmoko, its development won't be anymore Om-focussed; then Rasterman in the near future could be occupied in other things, so his interest for e-embedded could decrease and with it also the quality of the software that we'll use. However there's another question to Openmoko: another important developer left openmoko; unfortunately he's not the first of the list. Why this happens so often? In every message I've read about, it's always stated that there's no so much openness as it should be. This won't to be a flame, but we all know how people like Rasterman are important for the project. I can't really understand how we can throw those opportunities away... [1] http://www.rasterman.com/index.php?page=News -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Should I update u-boot?
u-boot is effectively your bios and therefore fwiu facilitates power management and the like. Certain features will benefit like suspend and booting from ext3. I'dd add: recharging a Freerunner with a dead battery... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: distribution choice
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:49 AM, nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was recently modified so it can also run over X11 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtopiaOnX11 http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/x11 -Nick What' is the future of Qtopia and QtopiaOnX11? The problem is not only concerning the XServer/FB, but the middleware too. As developer i have no problem to use QT api, as they will run on Qtopia/FB and on Qt-classic/x11. This is different if i want use Qtopia/API versus dbus/fso API. As observer instead, i think/hope/suppose qtopiaonx11 will be patched to use FSO or Trolltech will develop a dbus compatibility layer with the same FSO API, otherwise was 2008.8 only a big waste of time? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sim error: sim is missing
Alessandro De Noia wrote: [] Thanks for the answer, here[1] you can found my logread output. According to this message[2], the problem is in the sim pin. [1] http://rafb.net/p/BTSiRN58.html [2]http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/gsmd-devel/2007-April/38.html Yup, CMS error code 311 means 'SIM PIN necessary'. Have you saw a window to enter your PIN number after booting-up? You have to enter correct PIN number and then you can register to the local GSM network normally. Regards, Erin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community