Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:21:35 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it is usable... I've tried it weeks ago and it basically said me that gpsd was using really so much cycles also if the GPS was off, that's why I generally kill it if I've no GPS need. But it was saying also many other things that kernel devs should understand better than me. Will it be considered for optimizing the power usage? Well , i guess major problem with FR power saving is about suspend/resume issue and i believe om developers have pretty good idea on which process consuming how much battery , anyway , powertop will help users / community distribution makers a bit :) -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Hi Michael, Here's some clarification http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1095866%7Ca1095866 I hope you find this helpful. Steve Michael Zanetti wrote: On Sunday 31 August 2008 15:50:05 Al Johnson wrote: The patch turns on the echo and noise suppression capabilities in the GSM chipset using one of the hidden and NDA's AT commands someone kindly posted on the hardware list. Just for my understanding: I thought that on my openmoko-phone even the hardware is supposed to be free and open. How can it be than, that there are hidden commands and NDA's? I read somewhere (long time ago - before the FR reached its birthday) that there might be some pieces of hardware not open such as the GSM chip. I guess exactly this is the case. Could someone experienced to NDA's, copyright laws, GPL violations and so on please explain me how exactly this is handled here? Thanks Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
Hey Vasco,
You mean creating VCF's from the sqlite-data in a backup?
Would be interesting to play with. I could envision a slq-script that
dumps the data into a file and then a bash or python script that puts
things in the proper format. That's not too difficult, if sqlite plays nice.
I had thought about that too, but I can't find an SQLite client in OM
repos to create the necessary script.
How can we talk to SQLite on OM without going the full C/C++ and
respective libs way? Python maybe?...
I found sqlite3 on my desktop pc, which makes things a lot easier. I
think that is included on anyone's Linux box these days, and on
www.sqlite.com/download there are also precompiled binaries for Mac and
Windows. You need sqlite version 3 for the .sqlite files on the FR.
I've been playing a bit with it: copied a .sqlite file from the
Freerunner to my machine and using sqlite3 I can pull information from
it quite easily:
echo .tables | sqlite3 qtopia_db.sqlite
appointmentcategories contactpresence mimeTypeMapping
appointmentcustom contactspimdependencies
appointmentexceptions content servicehistory
appointmentscontentPropssimcardidmap
callhistory currentsimcard simlabelidmap
callhistorytimezone databaseProperties sqlsources
categories defaultMimeApplication syncServers
categoryringtoneemailaddresses taskcategories
changelog favoriteservicestaskcustom
contactaddressesgoogleidtasks
contactcategories locationLookup versioninfo
contactcustom mapCategoryToContent
contactphonenumbers mimeTypeLookup
echo .dump contactphonenumbers | sqlite3 qtopia_db.sqlite
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
CREATE TABLE contactphonenumbers ( phone_number VARCHAR(100) NOT
NULL, recid INTEGER, phone_type INTEGER, FOREIGN KEY(recid)
REFERENCES contacts(recid) );
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('04x875',83886113,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('07x693',83886209,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+3167678',83886277,257);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('049275',83886193,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('118',83886361,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+316244',83886365,1);
INSERT INTO contactphonenumbers VALUES('+3162233',83886357,1);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersbytype ON contactphonenumbers
(phone_type, phone_number);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersindex ON contactphonenumbers (recid);
CREATE INDEX contactphonenumbersnumbers ON contactphonenumbers
(phone_number, recid);
CREATE INDEX contactphnenumberscontacts ON contactphonenumbers (recid,
phone_number);
COMMIT;
I can imagine a python script on the desktop/laptop that would read all
the dumps, disect all the insert statements, combine the information
based on the recid attribute and after pulling all that together, write
out Vcards.
Note that I am using qtopia. I am not certain if the structure on
OM2008.x is identical. If that is the case, I can imagine a config file
per distribution, mapping attribute-names to the necessary Vcard
entries. (I have a lot of imagination.) You'd then run the python script
with a parameter telling it what config/mapping to use.
I am sure I can write something like that. I am however not sure how
long it would take me, as my order for 36-hour days has still not been
fullfilled. *grin*
What do you (or anyone) think of this?
Paul
--
If there were no schools to take the children away from home
part of the time, the insane asylum would be filled with
mothers.
-Edgar Watson Howe
http://www.nlpagan.net
Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04
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Re: What should a community manager do?
digger vermont wrote: I didn't read it like that. As someone who is learning by doing it felt more like an invitation. It was late when I posted that, so maybe it was the lack of sleep talking. But even still, I guess my point is that I don't think that to groups need to be isolated, separated but not mutually exclusive . I also agree with the separation of devel and community lists. Its like rooms in a house. Different things happen in different rooms. However that doesn't mean you can't go into different rooms. I entered OM through the living-room. Heard lots of lively conversations. Joined in some. Then I started to smell the cooking that made me hungry and went into the kitchen to watch what was going on. Being hungry I started looking for places to help. Help with the prep? Some appetizers? I'm slowly learning to cook myself. If you're like me when I'm in the kitchen cooking a big meal my focus is on the task at hand. Some banter is around the food is fine, but conversations about church and state no. Save that for the living-room. You know what, so do I... there is a need for organizing the community at this point and a separation of devel and users will accomplish a lot in my personal view. As I said earlier, the one thing that I would not like to see is an isolation of the two groups (if it can be helped anyway). The low bar to entry would help ensure that users making the jump into the development of Moko items will not have much to imped them. There may be other thing that users would need to make that jump when they feel that they are ready to do so. For now, even with what is purposed here... I am not sure that it would end there to help (yeah even Mom) users jump into Moko development. The only other thing that I can do at this point is keep an eye... see that things don't go south. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-should-a-community-manager-do--tp1318997p1321791.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.9 wifi icon
Has anyone figured out how to control the wifi icon in 2008.9. It currently stays on after the first connection and never goes off until the next reboot. BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: media player for debian
Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can anyone recommend a media player for debian on my freerunner? the important things i need are: *library management *usable with finger - no stylus *support for mp3 or ogg, would prefer ogg Do you know if openmoko-mediaplayer2 would fill these specs? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] GPRS
Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Second, where is it performing /etc/resolv.conf replacement, and how do I stop it? because the current behavior is very undesirable for me. I've grep -r resolv.conf . shows that ./framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/pdp.py does PPP_DAEMON_SETUP[/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/08setupdns] = #!/bin/sh -e cp /var/run/ppp/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf Third, where is it doing the replacement of the default route? I'm also grep -r route . shows that ./framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/modem.py uses if category == ppp: return [ '115200', 'nodetach', 'crtscts', 'defaultroute', 'debug', #'hide-password', 'holdoff', '3', 'ipcp-accept-local', 'ktune', 'lcp-echo-failure', '8', 'lcp-echo-interval', '10', 'ipcp-max-configure', '32', 'lock', 'noauth', #'demand', 'noipdefault', 'novj', 'novjccomp', #'persist', 'proxyarp', 'replacedefaultroute', 'usepeerdns' ] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer question [preliminary report]
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:47:13 +0530 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *groan* I am on qtextended, I charged the phone fully before going to sleep, but when I woke up this morning, it was switched off. I had switched off the alarm too. After putting it to charge, apm told me battery level was 10%. The phone suspends and wakes up normally, I think. What is it? What IS it? maybe you're having the same issue as I am: the phone switches itself on at some time during the night and if auto-suspend is off then the battery drains itself really fast. I just tried fso (qtextended before that), and still my phone switches on automatically. Very weird ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: media player for debian
icons are missing in some images. you can download them from openembedded or i think they were around in this ml some time ago. i use qmmp as musicplayer for debian, but its not fingerfriendly ... supports playlists, library i dont think, never tried. bye vale Marcel-2 wrote: Am Sunday 12 October 2008 10:22:32 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can anyone recommend a media player for debian on my freerunner? the important things i need are: *library management *usable with finger - no stylus *support for mp3 or ogg, would prefer ogg Do you know if openmoko-mediaplayer2 would fill these specs? Sonata, a mpd-client, works quite well - but it's not that easy to use with a finger. The om-mediaplayer2 has no lib support, just playlists. And maybe it's just me, but I never saw icons on the playback control buttons... -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/media-player-for-debian-tp1321628p1321935.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
I had this idea too some times ago and I started a project but I haven't time to finish it... 2008/10/12 Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I know, some time ago there was someone other who planned to do something like this. But it's been a long time since then. I don't think they are working on it anymore... It just confirms what everyone is saying about Openmoko: Everything is unfinished and takes forever to be done. In my opinion that's not true. All of you do a really great job. So I wanted to give my contribution to the community and build that Homepage. There is a lot to improve on the site. These are (some of) my targets: * add Search-Box * improve «Package-Detail»-Screen * improve Home-Screen Everybody is able to post new packages or edit packages. Just register and log in. It would be great if all of you would help getting the database populated. I added just a few packages, but I know there are more! If you find any kind of bugs on the page (espacially spelling mistakes) feel free to contact me. My first language is German - not English (I think you realized that lines ago...). I'm also happy if you send me your ideas and opinions! Thank you. Regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Handwriting recognition
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:41 AM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still haven't figured out how to choose the handwriting recognition (which I actually like) input instead of one of the keyboards. Right now sometimes it's on and sometimes it's off... Where do I enable it ? Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community When on a text input, choose 'Option' and then 'Change Input Method' until there is no keyboard display. Then just write on the screen! -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Handwriting recognition
Le dimanche 12 octobre 2008 à 11:55 +0200, Mathieu Rochette a écrit : When on a text input, choose 'Option' and then 'Change Input Method' until there is no keyboard display. Then just write on the screen! Ok, it works. Maybe an option named Handwriting something along with Keyboard, Docked Keyboard, Predictive Keyboard would make things less confusing. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What should a community manager do?
Rod, It seems that access was granted sometime between then and now oh great, I'm happy to hear that. Maybe we don't talk about it enough publicly: We have an 'admin trac' issue tracker, that _EVERYBODY_ can use to send requests to the Openmoko admins. This is a public resource, same as pretty much everything else in the Openmoko project: http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac If you want read/write access to git.openmoko.org, or if you want to sign our NDA to get access to some NDA'd documents, please register an account there, then write up a request. Best Regards, Wolfgang On Oct 12, 2008, at 4:42 AM, Rod Whitby wrote: Rod Whitby wrote: (Wolfgang told the Openmoko admins to give me svn and git access on the 22 Sept, and nothing has happened yet). I want to make a public retraction and apology on this point. It seems that access was granted sometime between then and now, but either I wasn't informed of that or the notification got lost in transit. My apologies to Wolfgang and the Openmoko admins. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2/3: What people want Openmoko to do?
Rod, your questions touch marketing territory but I will still try to answer. It would be very interesting to see the graph of mailing list member numbers over time and whether it has just not grown very much since the launch or whether it grew significantly and has shrunk since. I think roh+gismo can give you more accurate information, because they look at this more often (it's not a secret, I wish we could all easily see live stats). I believe the announce list has stayed roughly the same over time. There has been a shift from the community list to devel+kernel. The bottom line answer to your question is that the numbers have not grown very much, not grew significantly then shrunk. To put things into perspective, I can tell you that we have sold more than 5000 units, but not many times more than that. Compared to the number of phones we sold, the community looks very healthy to me. Our main focus should be to get hardware and software quality up, better design, low price, 100% open. Wolfgang On Oct 12, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Rod Whitby wrote: Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Openmoko — how many are subscribed to your email lists? announce: 11187 community: 2240 devel: 1218 I'm surprised that the community and devel numbers are so low considering it is almost 2 years since launch (for a data point, the nslu2-linux project grew to 9000 members on the community list in two years after project start, peaked to 12000 after 3 years and still has 1 after four years). One needs to wonder why the respectable announce list numbers haven't been converted into respectable community and devel list numbers ... Surely you've sold many more than 5000 devices (supposedly mainly to developers) - how come all those people are not on the mailing lists? It would be very interesting to see the graph of mailing list member numbers over time and whether it has just not grown very much since the launch or whether it grew significantly and has shrunk since. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qtextended] Handwriting recognition
I still haven't figured out how to choose the handwriting recognition (which I actually like) input instead of one of the keyboards. Right now sometimes it's on and sometimes it's off... Where do I enable it ? Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Great job Tobias!! A great site! One of my favourite sites for Ubuntu is getdeb where you can easily download install new .deb packages, you do the same for Openmoko. Wow! As far as I know, getdeb is open source so you might be able to use some parts of their code. Maybe you already do :) I really hope that all usable ipk:s would find their way there from projects.openmoko: it's a pain to go through all projects there. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great work, Tobias! I have one suggestion: add information about required dependencies, and the distribution that the package is compatible with. I second this. My wish would be a RSS feed of new items there. Way to go! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended]Mapping demo maps
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:32 PM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: How do you configure the source for the mapping demo maps. Right now I can get a fix but since I don't have an internet connection configured, I can't see my position on a map. Is there a way to get it to use the maps from openstreetmaps I had previously configured for tangogps ? It being just a demo, it gives you your co-ordinates, direction and speed, and of course, an API to develop against. You can wait for OpenCityMap to be ported to Qtextended, and use it the same way as you did tangogps. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2/3: What people want Openmoko to do?
Risto, Openmoko — how many are subscribed to your email lists? announce: 11187 community: 2240 devel: 1218 openmoko-kernel: 640 We have some statistics at https://monitor.openmoko.org/munin/ The statistics there are very IT/tech focused, but I think roh gismo will be open-minded to improve if there is interest. You can create tickets with requests for better statistics in our admin-trac, http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/ Maybe one day you can just direct your browser to monitor.openmoko.org (http, not only https :-)), and get a bunch of meaningful live statistics. Filing specific requests into admin-trac helps. Thanks and Best Regards, Wolfgang On Oct 11, 2008, at 9:26 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I just was able to release the second part of the posts. For full version, see http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/discussion-23-what-people-want-openmoko-to-do/ This is the part two of the post series discussing the status of the Openmoko community. The discussion is split in three posts to make it easier to read. This first post discussed the status of the community and the third will discuss one of the possible solutions to improve communication. In this second part we will discuss the expectations people have for the software or simply what people want Openmoko to do. What people want.. People always want something.. In this case there are not much people can demand Openmoko does. Openmoko has their own plans for the future and if they see that they can use community for something, I hope they'll do it. If not then.. that's life. But here are some expectations the community members have on Openmoko. The comments without the e-mail addresses are from community mailing list, the rest from the comments of my previous post. Remember, these are only parts from the messages so please check the original posts for more details! !-- to see the removed comments , see http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/discussion-23-what-people-want-openmoko-to-do/ -- Having several (forked) distros around is okay if the fork developers really want to take a completely new direction. If the devels feel a need to fork because it's in one way or another difficult to contribute (no SVN access or something), then I think there's something wrong in the community and project management. I don't know what's the case in Openmoko. From what I know, FDOM was created to add all the community applications to the original Openmoko 2008.x so it seems to make sense though I don't know if it has to be a distro and not a add-on package or install script to 2008.x but that was not the topic of this post… October 7, 2008 at 7:47 am / mwester Well said. Openmoko sold a vision, and found an eager audience. Unfortunately, they didn't seem to have any idea what to do with that shared vision — as a result, the community gradually dispersed and fragmented. But all is not lost, by any means. As long as people complain about the situation, there is hope — they still care. Openmoko needs to look very closely at the data that only *they* can see: Openmoko — how many are subscribed to your email lists? How many of them are active (i.e. have sent an email in the past 6 months)? Now, how many phones did you sell, Openmoko? Openmoko — where are those thousands of missing phones? Are they in desk drawers? Cardboard shoe boxes in closets? Dust bins? More importantly, where are those thousands of potential contributors, potential ambassadors, your in-the-field sales force for selling both the vision and the phones? The hardware and software problems are trivial in comparison to the loss of the community mindshare — and ultimately that goes beyond a vision and goes to the bottom line. Openmoko had better hire a community manager, not for the community's sake (although we'd certainly welcome such a person), but for their own business survival. Mwester said it better than I was able to. I might not be quite that pessimistic but I think that the community would be able to do more than it currently does if properly managed and empowered. This includes both developers and users, there's no reason to make a division here! Next post will discuss one of the possible solutions to the communication problem. to see the original post, see http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/discussion-23-what-people-want-openmoko-to-do/ r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Tobias Kündig wrote: I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I don't want to rain on your parade, cause it's a great service you've set up, but the problem is that .ipk (and now .opk) is used for *many* more different embedded devices than the Openmoko phones. So your domain name may be just a bit too general :-) But hey, you got the domain first, so you get to choose how to use it. So, can I add .ipks for the nslu2 or the wrt54g or the zaurus or the Treo 650 to your database? -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What should a community manager do?
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Rod, It seems that access was granted sometime between then and now oh great, I'm happy to hear that. Maybe we don't talk about it enough publicly: We have an 'admin trac' issue tracker, that _EVERYBODY_ can use to send requests to the Openmoko admins. This is a public resource, same as pretty much everything else in the Openmoko project: http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac Ah, now I see what happened. I did raise a ticket in the admin-trac, and since we use Trac a lot at my work and in the nslu2-linux project, I expected it to send me email on ticket state changes. It didn't, so I assumed nothing had happened (my incorrect assumption). BTW, I can show you guys how to set up Trac so that you can issue all the developers an SSL client certificate (which you can use in a lot of places instead of username and password) and it automatically logs them into trac using their email address so they automatically get emails when the tickets change state ... -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2/3: What people want Openmoko to do?
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Openmoko — how many are subscribed to your email lists? announce: 11187 community: 2240 devel: 1218 I'm surprised that the community and devel numbers are so low considering it is almost 2 years since launch (for a data point, the nslu2-linux project grew to 9000 members on the community list in two years after project start, peaked to 12000 after 3 years and still has 1 after four years). One needs to wonder why the respectable announce list numbers haven't been converted into respectable community and devel list numbers ... Surely you've sold many more than 5000 devices (supposedly mainly to developers) - how come all those people are not on the mailing lists? It would be very interesting to see the graph of mailing list member numbers over time and whether it has just not grown very much since the launch or whether it grew significantly and has shrunk since. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: media player for debian
Am Sunday 12 October 2008 10:22:32 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can anyone recommend a media player for debian on my freerunner? the important things i need are: *library management *usable with finger - no stylus *support for mp3 or ogg, would prefer ogg Do you know if openmoko-mediaplayer2 would fill these specs? Sonata, a mpd-client, works quite well - but it's not that easy to use with a finger. The om-mediaplayer2 has no lib support, just playlists. And maybe it's just me, but I never saw icons on the playback control buttons... -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello everyone, I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I know, some time ago there was someone other who planned to do something like this. But it's been a long time since then. I don't think they are working on it anymore... It just confirms what everyone is saying about Openmoko: Everything is unfinished and takes forever to be done. In my opinion that's not true. All of you do a really great job. So I wanted to give my contribution to the community and build that Homepage. There is a lot to improve on the site. These are (some of) my targets: * add Search-Box * improve «Package-Detail»-Screen * improve Home-Screen Everybody is able to post new packages or edit packages. Just register and log in. It would be great if all of you would help getting the database populated. I added just a few packages, but I know there are more! If you find any kind of bugs on the page (espacially spelling mistakes) feel free to contact me. My first language is German - not English (I think you realized that lines ago...). I'm also happy if you send me your ideas and opinions! Great work, Tobias! I have one suggestion: add information about required dependencies, and the distribution that the package is compatible with. Another one: get the category list on top. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] impressions from fresh debian install today
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: enabled rightclick emulation with export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so. Thanks, that was a great tip. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtextended]wifi
Everything phone-related is so far working smoother and faster with qtextended but I can't get wifi to work. I created a wlan connection in the Internet application and tried the WLAN Detection function but it didn't see my home wlan even though it appears in iwlist eth0 scan. Also, is there a way to switch off the wifi antenna from the gui ? I can't find a Power off wifi like there is for bluetooth. Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] impressions from fresh debian install today
Hi, Am Samstag, den 11.10.2008, 21:06 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The only stuff that starts by default is the matchbox wm, zhone, and the matchbox kbd. I think this is too little, and that a panel should also be there by default. I tried the matchbox panel, but couldnt get it to work in a way I liked. In the end I installed xfce. I now run the xfce panel, and the matchbox wm. I also installed the gtkstylus lib, and enabled rightclick emulation with export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so. thanks for your suggestions. The installer, as it currently sits in git, will install and run trayer (a minimal system tray) and openmoko-panel-plugin in the default installation. This is still very lightweight (compared to installing xfce), but gives the user the device specific information. It’s still no application starter, though... For patches, see http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blobdiff;f=install.sh;h=c478e8bcbed43c55fd8a8b1fabf27497644c7bb1;hp=00c8e2b9802add0d62077f2d3dd32d71b63fd057;hb=6c48bb533ab8092b2129f7b2d52f8fa04763df55;hpb=afdacf3fdbe81be0b6f97dd2d46926520def7bf2a I also added a swapfile. Is that really need? What’s the gain and losses? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Handwriting recognition
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:35 PM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Le dimanche 12 octobre 2008 à 11:55 +0200, Mathieu Rochette a écrit : When on a text input, choose 'Option' and then 'Change Input Method' until there is no keyboard display. Then just write on the screen! Ok, it works. Maybe an option named Handwriting something along with Keyboard, Docked Keyboard, Predictive Keyboard would make things less confusing. That is not a bug, that is a feature, right there along with the magical controls in media player and om-view on OM2008.x. Actually, it was real fun, and rather useful in case of om-view to intuit and use. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
2008/10/12 Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] In addition, i would recommend a look a look at multimedia functions. If the device were to play music (mp3) if there were ways to be more power efficient. Good point. Am I right in thinking that there was a point during the development of Sony-Ericsson's phones (the point being the introduction of the Walkman series) when they suddenly became able to play MP3s while on standby? This would be a really good feature for OpenMoko phones to have, especially if they are to be competitive against mass-market media player phones. [snip] using one of the ultra low power micron controller such as one of the AVR pico series will allow greater flexibility with the ability to make it function like the device BIOS as well and upgrade its firmware if and when necessary. This could also help the battery charging problem when powered down! I agree; enabling the device to charge when powered down would be a good thing. The vast majority of consumers will need to be confident that if they plug their phone into a power source, it will (1) start charging and keep charging until the battery is full, and (2) light an LED while charging to indicate the state of the battery (typically, red=empty, amber=usable but not full, green=full). An awful lot of consumers, after all, do not RTFM and will assume the phone is broken if it doesn't do this. I know FR is still oriented at developers, but most developers are consumers too, and would prefer not to RTM any more than they have to. What's more, even with the best will in the world, batteries *do* run down completely from time to time. OM users deserve better than to have to remember magic sequences, etc, to get the phone working again after this happens. People do need to be able to rely on their phones. At the moment, if you've forgotten (or didn't know) about the magic sequences, and you find yourself with a discharged phone at a place with not internet access and only a USB charger, you'd be rather stuck. With most commercial phones, however, you'd just plug them in and let them charge until they had enough power in the battery to be switched on again. Sorry if this has all been said before. All best, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
El día Friday, October 10, 2008 a las 04:40:05AM -0700, Steven Goyvaerts escribió: Hi, I found this on the wiki. ... Hi, I withdraw my question how one could unload the contacts in the FR to vCard format :-) Converting my old CSV based cellphone contacts to vCard with the KDE Kaddressbook tool let me think that the correct place for the 'master database' of my contacts is not the FR itself, but the Kaddressbook tool itself; the internal format of Kaddressbook is already vCard 3.0 and it's just easy to copy it over to the FR and load it there as: $ scp ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:. $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] # DISPLAY=:0.0 export DISPLAY # addressbook ./std.vcf that's all; before loading the contacts in the FR I'm just dropping the old database with sqlite3 as described in the Wiki with a small script; the problem with vCard 3.0 are the mangled non-ASCII chars of the UTF-8 input file; and as well the NICKNAME is not filled in from the file into the contact; the file reads for example: BEGIN:VCARD CLASS:PUBLIC FN:Lina Maria Lozano Manchola N:Lozano Manchola;Lina Maria;;; NICKNAME:Linchen REV:2008-10-12T12:41:20Z TEL;TYPE=CELL:+49... TEL;TYPE=HOME:+57... UID:Lij1Mm4v3L VERSION:3.0 END:VCARD but 'Linchen' does not get inserted into the FR contact field 'Nickname'; any idea? thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended]wifi
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:32 PM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Everything phone-related is so far working smoother and faster with qtextended but I can't get wifi to work. I created a wlan connection in the Internet application and tried the WLAN Detection function but it didn't see my home wlan even though it appears in iwlist eth0 scan. More technical information needed. Also, is there a way to switch off the wifi antenna from the gui ? I can't find a Power off wifi like there is for bluetooth. There seems to be none, but going by the internet settings gui, where you tap to go online, the antenna must be getting switched off in offline mode - if you selected 'connect on demand'. You can put it to offline mode and test with ifconfig -a. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Hello everyone, I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I know, some time ago there was someone other who planned to do something like this. But it's been a long time since then. I don't think they are working on it anymore... It just confirms what everyone is saying about Openmoko: Everything is unfinished and takes forever to be done. In my opinion that's not true. All of you do a really great job. So I wanted to give my contribution to the community and build that Homepage. There is a lot to improve on the site. These are (some of) my targets: * add Search-Box * improve «Package-Detail»-Screen * improve Home-Screen Everybody is able to post new packages or edit packages. Just register and log in. It would be great if all of you would help getting the database populated. I added just a few packages, but I know there are more! If you find any kind of bugs on the page (espacially spelling mistakes) feel free to contact me. My first language is German - not English (I think you realized that lines ago...). I'm also happy if you send me your ideas and opinions! Thank you. Regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
2008/10/12 Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everyone, I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I know, some time ago there was someone other who planned to do something like this. But it's been a long time since then. I don't think they are working on it anymore... It just confirms what everyone is saying about Openmoko: Everything is unfinished and takes forever to be done. In my opinion that's not true. All of you do a really great job. So I wanted to give my contribution to the community and build that Homepage. There is a lot to improve on the site. These are (some of) my targets: * add Search-Box * improve «Package-Detail»-Screen * improve Home-Screen Everybody is able to post new packages or edit packages. Just register and log in. It would be great if all of you would help getting the database populated. I added just a few packages, but I know there are more! If you find any kind of bugs on the page (espacially spelling mistakes) feel free to contact me. My first language is German - not English (I think you realized that lines ago...). I'm also happy if you send me your ideas and opinions! Thank you. Regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Very good job! Thank you! Davide ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Tobias Kündig wrote: I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org Great job!! Paul -- If there were no schools to take the children away from home part of the time, the insane asylum would be filled with mothers. -Edgar Watson Howe http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] FSO install question.
Hello people, I would like to put FSO on the SDcard, to look at it and try it. Can someone recommend the proper root/image-files to use for this? There are quite a lot on the FSO-download page... Thank you, Paul -- If there were no schools to take the children away from home part of the time, the insane asylum would be filled with mothers. -Edgar Watson Howe http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
2008/10/12 Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org That's a really neat site already. Kudos! Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended]Mapping demo maps
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: How do you configure the source for the mapping demo maps. Right now I can get a fix Where have you get the fix ? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Nice work, if you will provide a repository with all packages from site, it will be excelent :) dos Tobias Kündig wrote: I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Very nice site, indeed. I would suggest that you include license information and source code downloads. Also, as someone already mentioned, it would be great to have a repository of all your packages. On Sunday 12 October 2008 11:30:06 Tobias Kündig wrote: Hello everyone, I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I know, some time ago there was someone other who planned to do something like this. But it's been a long time since then. I don't think they are working on it anymore... It just confirms what everyone is saying about Openmoko: Everything is unfinished and takes forever to be done. In my opinion that's not true. All of you do a really great job. So I wanted to give my contribution to the community and build that Homepage. There is a lot to improve on the site. These are (some of) my targets: * add Search-Box * improve «Package-Detail»-Screen * improve Home-Screen Everybody is able to post new packages or edit packages. Just register and log in. It would be great if all of you would help getting the database populated. I added just a few packages, but I know there are more! If you find any kind of bugs on the page (espacially spelling mistakes) feel free to contact me. My first language is German - not English (I think you realized that lines ago...). I'm also happy if you send me your ideas and opinions! Thank you. Regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
On 12.10.2008 at 11:30:06, Tobias Kündig wrote: Hello everyone, I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I know, some time ago there was someone other who planned to do something like this. But it's been a long time since then. I don't think they are working on it anymore... It just confirms what everyone is saying about Openmoko: Everything is unfinished and takes forever to be done. In my opinion that's not true. All of you do a really great job. So I wanted to give my contribution to the community and build that Homepage. That's great! Thanks for investing the time to do the homepage. There is a lot to improve on the site. These are (some of) my targets: * add Search-Box * improve «Package-Detail»-Screen * improve Home-Screen What about providing an ATOM feed [1] with the latest packages? -- Fabian [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATOM ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Compressed file system for SD?
The jffs filesystem used on the NAND is compressing, which is great for our use case. For the SD that would also be very desirable (especially with the provided 512MB µSD), but it seems that ext3 is the filesystem of choice there. Has someone tried to use a compressing filesystem there? Stefan PS: I've used jffs2 on a USB drive (through block2mtd) and it works, but it's inefficient (because of block2mtd) and it's not clear how/if it would work here (it went through an initrd); but a basic x86 Debian install (for rescue, but including gcc to compile extra packages) fits just fine in 256MB this way, so 512MB would be plenty. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2/3: What people want Openmoko to do?
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 02:55:04AM +, JW wrote: Risto, I have lost count of the number of people who have said * i know linux * i can develop for the desktop * i have given up trying to develop for freerunner because the hurdles to development are too high I think Openmoko could employ someone to take queries from serious developers and get them over the initial hurdles and notify of upgrades which knock down critical bugs/barriers Much more useful than pandering to community at large Cross compiling is a little trickier than normal compiling, you have to set up a bunch of different things. I found that by using the toolchain, a lot is made easier for a newcomer developer. What really makes it hard is that many don't have the money to buy two phones, and it's still somewhat frustrating as a phone (you've definitely gotta have some patience and love for Free Software :) ). Now, one could use a qemu vm, but developping into a VM is not half as funny as seing the software you wrote running in your hand. Also, EFL could be a little bit better documented... but it doesn't have the momentum other UI toolkits have had for years. Rui -- Wibble. Today is Setting Orange, the 66th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, as someone already mentioned, it would be great to have a repository of all your packages. Isn't the community repository doing more or less this? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
On Sunday 12 October 2008 15:36:59 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, as someone already mentioned, it would be great to have a repository of all your packages. Isn't the community repository doing more or less this? Hmmm... yes. Probably it would be an idea to combine the community repos and this page somehow... So one could browse the site and install the packages from the community repos. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.9: Is there zenity or gtkdialog package?
Is there a zenity or gtkdialog package for 2008.9? - I cant find one so far. Or is there something else for 2008.9 BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
please fix bugs before to annount the site... there are a lot of bugs... like the one clinking on something like this http://www.opkg.org/inc/ajax/rate.php?id=3v=-1(poor numptyphysics -.-') ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate for OpenMoko
Hi Ruis,
just wanted you to know i created a desktop icon in order to
activate/desactivate auto rotate.
It works with 2008.9/FDOM, but should work with other distributions.
I extended the /etc/init.d/accel-rotate to add it a switch function, and
used the tap/untap icon for the desktop entry.
Here you got it all.
Greetings
/etc/init.d/accel-rotate
#! /bin/sh
#
# accel-rotate
#
# description: this script starts accel-rotate daemon
# processname: accel-rotate
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin
NAME=accel-rotate
CMD=`which accel-rotate`
[ -f /etc/default/rcS ] . /etc/default/rcS
case $1 in
start)
echo -n Starting accel-rotate daemon:
start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile /var/run/${NAME}.pid
--make-pidfile --background -x ${CMD}
if [ $? = 0 ]; then
echo (ok)
else
echo (failed)
fi
;;
stop)
echo -n Stopping accel-rotate daemon:
start-stop-daemon --stop --pidfile /var/run/${NAME}.pid --oknodo
rm -f /var/run/${NAME}.pid
echo (done)
;;
switch)
echo Switching state of accel-rotate daemon:
if [ -e /var/run/${NAME}.pid ]; then
/etc/init.d/accel-rotate stop
else
/etc/init.d/accel-rotate start
fi
;;
restart|force-reload)
$0 stop
$0 start
;;
*)
echo Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart|switch|force-reload}
exit 1
;;
esac
exit 0
/usr/share/applications/rotate.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=.Rotate 0/1
Comment=Autorotate the screen
Exec=/etc/init.d/accel-rotate switch
Icon=tapuntap
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Office;
MimeType=text/x-vcard;
SingleInstance=true
StartupNotify=false
accel-rotate
Description: Binary data
rotate.desktop
Description: Binary data
attachment: tapuntap.png___
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Re: [Qtextended]Mapping demo maps
On Sunday 12 Oct 2008 6:28:38 pm Federico Di Lodovico wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: How do you configure the source for the mapping demo maps. Right now I can get a fix Where have you get the fix ? In my case it seems to forever stay Connected, waiting for a fix... -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please fix bugs before to annount the site... there are a lot of bugs... like the one clinking on something like this http://www.opkg.org/inc/ajax/rate.php?id=3v=-1 (poor numptyphysics -.-') If this applyes to all software.. well.. You've heard this 'release early, release often' thing and this stuff about community, bug reporting and so on.. So: thanks for pointing out a bug (that most likely will eventually be fixed..) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[kernel] question on modules
are the om kernel modules minimal (=just needed modules)? or it loads also modules for weird interfaces (as bt keyboards and so on)? thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2/3: What people want Openmoko to do?
Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm surprised that the community and devel numbers are so low considering it is almost 2 years since launch many follow via nabble/gmane I do JW ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended]Mapping demo maps
On Sunday 12 Oct 2008 7:54:45 pm Kishore wrote: On Sunday 12 Oct 2008 6:28:38 pm Federico Di Lodovico wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: How do you configure the source for the mapping demo maps. Right now I can get a fix Where have you get the fix ? In my case it seems to forever stay Connected, waiting for a fix... Sorry, I spoke too early, It took a while but it does work. -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Compressed file system for SD?
Hey, great to see you here Stefan! The race for Emacs 23 on the Freerunner is on! Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The jffs filesystem used on the NAND is compressing, which is great for our use case. For the SD that would also be very desirable (especially with the provided 512MB µSD), but it seems that ext3 is the filesystem of choice there. Has someone tried to use a compressing filesystem there? Stefan PS: I've used jffs2 on a USB drive (through block2mtd) and it works, but it's inefficient (because of block2mtd) and it's not clear how/if it would work here (it went through an initrd); but a basic x86 Debian install (for rescue, but including gcc to compile extra packages) fits just fine in 256MB this way, so 512MB would be plenty. -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO-testing] FR now wake up
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:27:25 +0800 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, den 10.10.2008, 09:25 +0200 schrieb yves mahe: Hi, This night, opkg update brings me: - suspend mode seems to work (kernel update). My FR sleeps all the night and now wake up on call - E update with new ETK widgets : check buttons, radio buttons and text view Bad news: - no sound on call - no more red/blue LED while charging We did some major surgery in Oeventsd, which is responsible for both of that. Should be fixed by now. Should really be fixed by now. I forgot to push the commit before boarding the plane back to Germany, but it's there now. Sorry for the delay. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
nice work Tobias Kündig wrote: Hello everyone, I'm proud to announce my newest project: http://www.opkg.org It's a simple database of available *.ipk-Packages. I know, some time ago there was someone other who planned to do something like this. But it's been a long time since then. I don't think they are working on it anymore... It just confirms what everyone is saying about Openmoko: Everything is unfinished and takes forever to be done. In my opinion that's not true. All of you do a really great job. So I wanted to give my contribution to the community and build that Homepage. There is a lot to improve on the site. These are (some of) my targets: * add Search-Box * improve «Package-Detail»-Screen * improve Home-Screen Everybody is able to post new packages or edit packages. Just register and log in. It would be great if all of you would help getting the database populated. I added just a few packages, but I know there are more! If you find any kind of bugs on the page (espacially spelling mistakes) feel free to contact me. My first language is German - not English (I think you realized that lines ago...). I'm also happy if you send me your ideas and opinions! Thank you. Regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: omview is cool!
Hendrik Siedelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok hide hidden files is in svn. To remeber the last used directory or to have a home directory I need to add configuration files. thank you very much. I'll do this and also add configuration of everything else, but this will take some time I don't have that's why i suggested using $HOME because it should already be set when omview starts up - so no need for any configuration. For now you can instead add your start directory to the desktop file. this is also useful - thanks again! clemens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sam Kuper wrote: 2008/10/12 Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In addition, i would recommend a look a look at multimedia functions. If the device were to play music (mp3) if there were ways to be more power efficient. Good point. Am I right in thinking that there was a point during the development of Sony-Ericsson's phones (the point being the introduction I think we are better to try to find a general low power mode of operation for the CPU somehow than put in special MP3 playback hardware. But there is a case for a system management MPU that provides some always-on intelligence even when the CPU is down, that may appear in future. But for now as far as we got with always-on intelligence is the LED flashing thing. PWM is down in suspend... really all that CPU is very much down, the PLLs are off, there is no peripheral clock. All there is working is a kind of hold on GPIO state, and the IO pins are still powered. I agree; enabling the device to charge when powered down would be a good thing. The vast majority of consumers will need to be confident that if Yes always-on MPU can deliver consistent power behaviours we can't do in our current way of relying on PMU. You would basically make the PMU a slave of the MPU. Stuff like debricking scheme for a programmable and so brickable MPU that controls the PMU... needs careful thought. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjyLUcACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpKMACfU4CID24JhIzqkLIVVLXB1PB8 DggAn0dvM1FYG1qnOZpUT1k3SS/XCtFs =ccs/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer question [preliminary report]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fox Mulder wrote: How can i test if it really goes into suspend or any other suspend-like mode? After i press the putton zhone says that it goes into suspend and nothing anymore reacts for input. Only when i press the power button again it comes back to life after 1-2 seconds. Is there a way to go into a deeper suspend mode and how? :) It sounds like real suspend... there's a Trac bug floating about that draws a line between WLAN stack misbehaviour and high consumption... https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1597 - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjyLiUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrWWgCdE3rOSCxOOfxDZZwHEDeUC9qy riEAn01rUFqBVbkTvozJbPYYpRhNrPal =ZG9/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
So now we can install stuff from OPKG (ssh to your phone and then copy the link from opkg.org and then opkg install http://www.opkg.org/asdasdasdasdasd.ipk) or from the community repo (opkg install asdasdasd) At the moment I don't see these connected. On Freerunner I can't see me going to okpg.org to search for new cool software and then click the link on the mobile browser to download the file and then use CLI or some graphical installer tool (is there any around?). I don't even know if the browsers support downloading.. I think it's great that opkg.org gives the applications more visibility: user doesn't have to see previous releases, number of svn revisions for this release and so on. Find the software you want, click and install is what's needed. So to make this useful on Freerunner (not only desktop) we need a web browser that's able to open .ipk links with an installer or the .ipk files in opkg.org are useless and people install stuff from community repos (unless there will be an opkg repository) What do you think? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Newkirk wrote: Qi boots like a dream - no kernel messages scrolling by, just turns on backlight on a black screen for about 5 seconds (heartstopper of sorts the first time) then the graphical boot progress screen appears. I'd guesstimate that overall boot time was improved perhaps 15%. Great. NOTE for other 'daredevils': Qi does NOT provide a boot menu. (at least not that I could find, not at this point) The usual NOR uBoot menu you use Right Qi's concept is it leaves everything possible to Linux, that includes even the video init. You can use NOR U-Boot on Freerunner to do DFU or other U-Boot specific stuff. Qi has a list of bootable devices and currently will try uSD partition 1 for /boot/uImage.bin, if that is not working out then it will try the NAND kernel partition. The kernel wasn't so dreamy... On first flash a few trillion CRC errors seemed to scroll by, then it hung. Subsequent attempts: with Qi I get Currently 2.6.27 doesn't do mtd properly and blows chunks with these CRC errors, didn't find why yet. But it does work with uSD boot on ext3 OK. white screen for a half second, then backlighted black screen for a couple seconds, then off, with AUX red LED blinking about 4/sec. If I boot into NOR uBoot and select 'boot', I can see the screen as it load the kernel and starts it up. Then I get 17 lines on the screen, with AUX red LED again blinking ~4/sec: The red LED thing is what we do on kernel panic... it's panicking because it can't mount the jffs2 part because of the CRC errors, then it has no rootfs. lis302dl lis302dl.1: unknown who_am_i signature 0x00 lis302dl lis302dl.2: unknown who_am_i signature 0x00 kernel panic: not syncing: Attempted to kill init! (lis302dl are the accelerometers) Yes accel code is undergoing renovation and is broken right now, all the others are actually just informational. space. In this broken state, the instant I restored power (remove/replace battery) the blue Power LED came on, blinked off for a fraction of a second every 10 secs or so. I've never seen this before - is it coming from Qi?? It was really instantaneous upon battery reinsertion, I didn't press power or anything. (I thought it sat in powered-down state at that point, guess I was mistaken) Yes Qi has tried all its boot devices looking for valid kernel and reacted with the blue light when it sees it has nothing valid to boot. Thanks a lot for trying it and reporting it, you'll get further with uSD boot right now. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjyNBAACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpA9QCfQFHzU+qRnca4MUFyZeWJvmsP 4EYAn0o/RyaMxo6BOToxviccQn8TTLQx =dxjG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 08:26:56PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: So now we can install stuff from OPKG (ssh to your phone and then copy the link from opkg.org and then opkg install http://www.opkg.org/asdasdasdasdasd.ipk) or from the community repo (opkg install asdasdasd) At the moment I don't see these connected. On Freerunner I can't see me going to okpg.org to search for new cool software and then click the link on the mobile browser to download the file and then use CLI or some graphical installer tool (is there any around?). I don't even know if the browsers support downloading.. I think it's great that opkg.org gives the applications more visibility: user doesn't have to see previous releases, number of svn revisions for this release and so on. Find the software you want, click and install is what's needed. So to make this useful on Freerunner (not only desktop) we need a web browser that's able to open .ipk links with an installer or the .ipk files in opkg.org are useless and people install stuff from community repos (unless there will be an opkg repository) What do you think? If you want viruses sure, yeah, go ahead :) The packages would better be installable only if signed by a key the user has installed himself (by default, of course, OM's repo key should be included). Like Debian and Fedora do, for instance... Rui -- Today is Setting Orange, the 66th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
we need a web browser that's able to open .ipk links with an installer or the .ipk files in opkg.org are useless and people install stuff from community repos (unless there will be an opkg repository) What do you think? r Maybe something like apturl where you can install software from the repos by clicking on an apt://$package url on a website. As it only installs software from already configured repos you don't risk installing software from unknown sources. solar.george signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing http://www.opkg.org
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I don't even know if the browsers support downloading.. Links supports... and wget ;D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Davide. The only dependencie needed is only python-gtk2, but is possible I am wrong. Please send me the output you receive when you launch sephora from terminal. You can find the last version of sephora (alpha2) here: https://launchpad.net/sephora/+download Let me know how it was. Michele Renda Davide Scaini wrote: today i installed debian, but i'm not able to run sephora? maybe some dependancies not satisfied with python? any suggestions? thanks d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI8kkiSIAU/I6SkT0RAv3yAKCbX4qVALQURVhJCfqp/x3w/UCTCACfUc9X 51Kgojhf2ZQoRQBZTmQbhq0= =8qvm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Hi all, I’ve just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it’s been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I’ve made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn’t have an icon at the moment, it’s the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn’t hide the toolbar (otherwise there’s no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn’t overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko’s colour scheme better (and so it’s a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book’s pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here’s a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I’m testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Does it also work on OM2007.2? On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it's been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I've made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn't have an icon at the moment, it's the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn't hide the toolbar (otherwise there's no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn't overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko's colour scheme better (and so it's a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book's pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here's a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipkhttp://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipkhttp://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patchhttp://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch . Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I'm testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Giovanni wrote: Does it also work on OM2007.2? Probably, assuming all the dependancies are available (which from memory I think they are). Give it a try and let me know ;). Cheers, Mike. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it's been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I've made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn't have an icon at the moment, it's the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn't hide the toolbar (otherwise there's no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn't overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko's colour scheme better (and so it's a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book's pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here's a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I'm testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
arecord on freerunner
Hi, I would like to record a sound with my freerunner with arecord program. for this i run: $ arecord -c 2 -f S16_LE -r8000 -d 10 test.pcm with the following result: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:805:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream arecord: main:546: audio open error: Invalid argument Also i run: $ arecord -l with the following result: List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: neo1973gta02 [neo1973-gta02], device 0: WM8753 HiFi WM8753 HiFi-I2S-0 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: neo1973gta02 [neo1973-gta02], device 1: Voice WM8753 Voice-PCM-1 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 And : $ arecord -L give: null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) Which PCM can i give to --device option to arecord program for recording a sound on freerunner. Best Regards. hadroneo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
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today i installed debian, but i'm not able to run sephora? maybe some
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thanks
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i get this error :
debian-gta02:~# sephora
File /usr/bin/sephora, line 1133
def getGprsListClasses(self)9
gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self)9^K gprs =
self.setInterface('gprs_net')
i presume 9^k is the error here and should be replace with : and a new line.
( yeah that fixed it.)
line 1133 : def getGprsListClasses(self):
line 1134 : gprs = self.setInterface('gprs_net')
line 1135 : return gprs.ListAvailableGprsClasses()
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Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
2008/10/12 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Giovanni wrote: Does it also work on OM2007.2? Probably, assuming all the dependancies are available (which from memory I think they are). Give it a try and let me know ;). Cheers, Mike. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it's been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I've made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn't have an icon at the moment, it's the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn't hide the toolbar (otherwise there's no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn't overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko's colour scheme better (and so it's a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book's pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here's a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I'm testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Nice work! thank you! the book is into the wild? well the film had that name, maybe the book has a different one? Davide ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Pupino wrote: 2008/10/12 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Giovanni wrote: Does it also work on OM2007.2? Probably, assuming all the dependancies are available (which from memory I think they are). Give it a try and let me know ;). Cheers, Mike. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it's been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I've made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn't have an icon at the moment, it's the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn't hide the toolbar (otherwise there's no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn't overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko's colour scheme better (and so it's a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book's pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here's a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I'm testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Nice work! thank you! the book is into the wild? well the film had that name, maybe the book has a different one? Nope, *much* older book, good guess though :) Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: arecord on freerunner
Hi,
* hadroneo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081012 21:35]:
Hi,
I would like to record a sound with my freerunner with arecord program.
for this i run:
$ arecord -c 2 -f S16_LE -r8000 -d 10 test.pcm
with the following result:
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:805:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports
only playback stream arecord: main:546: audio open error: Invalid
argument
I got the same, I used the following command:
arecord -D hw -f cd -vvv -d 5 -t wav rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav
and it worked for me.
I did need to set the alsa state to the handset with:
alsactl -f capturehandset.state restore
the state file is a modified one from the one on the phone. I attached
my version but it's not optimized, it was just a quick play to get the
sound volume high enough with not too much noise. But it's not optimal
yet.
Cheers,
Baruch
state.neo1973gta02 {
control.1 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 255'
iface MIXER
name 'PCM Volume'
value.0 255
value.1 255
}
control.2 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 255'
iface MIXER
name 'ADC Capture Volume'
value.0 255
value.1 255
}
control.3 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
value.0 121
value.1 121
}
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
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Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael directly and: 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself directly to the OM repo. This may include teaching about how it all works. or 2) Grab the patch, add it to the repo themselves (if Michael is not keen to become a full developer) and 3) Make sure the autobuilders for all the different distributions build this package and put it in the official feeds. 4) Add the entry to opk.org Then all Openmoko users would benefit from Michael's work, and hopefully Michael would accept the offer of commit access (and access to do everything else above for himself) and be able to port many more applications for Openmoko without needing the intervention of the community manager in the future. -- Rod -Original Message- From: Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, Oct 13, 2008 5:55 am Subject: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.orgReply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Hi all, Ive just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now its been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes Ive made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesnt have an icon at the moment, its the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesnt hide the toolbar (otherwise theres no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesnt overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmokos colour scheme better (and so its a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the books pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Heres a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book Im testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Easy dude, there is a discussion taking place about that right know on this very list, and this kind of comments don't help at all. Be aware of the last thing we need is one more flame. You made some incredible points about why should we have a community manager and what things he or she might be doing, but then again, this does not help at all. BTW, if you change the topic of the thread, you change the subject as well. No need to be the CM to say that. ;-) Cheers! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Rod Whitby escribi: If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael directly and: 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself directly to the OM repo. This may include teaching about how it all works. or 2) Grab the patch, add it to the repo themselves (if Michael is not keen to become a full developer) and 3) Make sure the autobuilders for all the different distributions build this package and put it in the official feeds. 4) Add the entry to opk.org Then all Openmoko users would benefit from Michael's work, and hopefully Michael would accept the offer of commit access (and access to do everything else above for himself) and be able to port many more applications for Openmoko without needing the intervention of the community manager in the future. -- Rod -Original Message- From: Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, Oct 13, 2008 5:55 am Subject: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.orgReply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Hi all, Ive just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now its been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes Ive made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesnt have an icon at the moment, its the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesnt hide the toolbar (otherwise theres no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesnt overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmokos colour scheme better (and so its a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the books pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Heres a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book Im testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Example of community manager job role (Was: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner)
Kosa, I can't understand how you took my mail to be a flame? (Apologies for not changing the title - I've rectified that now). What I was trying to do was to point out with a real example what Steve was asking for - what would a community manager do to bring one more very effective developer into the fold - e.g. working inside the openmoko framework in a way that incrementally builds on existing openmoko developer resources rather than needing to have packages that are patched versions of packages in the existing openmoko source base but due to not having commit privs end up being totally disconnected from that source base, autobuilder and official feeds. If the below 4 steps were done for every external developer who announces a new tool, then we wouldn't need to have the discussion about how opkg.org links to external feeds and ensures the security of downloads, since everything would be coming from the official feeds and built with the trusted openmoko autobuilder. And we'd have many more application developers feeling empowered to port applications have their work known and used by the maximum number of people. Seriously dude, this is meant to help improve the openmoko community, not flame about it. -- Rod Kosa wrote: Easy dude, there is a discussion taking place about that right know on this very list, and this kind of comments don't help at all. Be aware of the last thing we need is one more flame. You made some incredible points about why should we have a community manager and what things he or she might be doing, but then again, this does not help at all. BTW, if you change the topic of the thread, you change the subject as well. No need to be the CM to say that. ;-) Cheers! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Rod Whitby escribió: If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael directly and: 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself directly to the OM repo. This may include teaching about how it all works. or 2) Grab the patch, add it to the repo themselves (if Michael is not keen to become a full developer) and 3) Make sure the autobuilders for all the different distributions build this package and put it in the official feeds. 4) Add the entry to opk.org Then all Openmoko users would benefit from Michael's work, and hopefully Michael would accept the offer of commit access (and access to do everything else above for himself) and be able to port many more applications for Openmoko without needing the intervention of the community manager in the future. -- Rod -Original Message- From: Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, Oct 13, 2008 5:55 am Subject: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.orgReply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Hi all, I’ve just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it’s been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I’ve made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn’t have an icon at the moment, it’s the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn’t hide the toolbar (otherwise there’s no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn’t overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko’s colour scheme better (and so it’s a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book’s pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here’s a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I’m testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Hey this is a great thing, I might actually have a look at some old finnish classics (http://www.lonnrot.net/etext.html) For some reason the line spacing seems to be a bit too small (with setting 2.0) and the lines overlap. Is there a way to make the line spacing even bigger than this? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Hey Michael! You are my today's hero! ;-) Would it be not too much to ask from you to do the same for the latest release of fbreader (0.8.17[1]) instead of elderly 0.8.2 which we have now? [1] http://www.fbreader.org/fbreader-sources-0.8.17.tgz Best regards Yarik On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Michael Sheldon wrote: Hi all, To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 wifi icon
William Kenworthy wrote: Has anyone figured out how to control the wifi icon in 2008.9. It currently stays on after the first connection and never goes off until the next reboot. The icon is working. The problem stays (as always) in the wifi driver. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
2008/10/13 Kosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Easy dude, there is a discussion taking place about that right know on this very list, and this kind of comments don't help at all. Be aware of the last thing we need is one more flame. You made some incredible points about why should we have a community manager and what things he or she might be doing, but then again, this does not help at all. i don't think this was a flame at all - in fact what rod said was very constructive, and shows a practical application of what he said earlier. these comments do help and someone at openmoko has clearly been listening, they are asking for direction keep it up, rod. this is all good stuff Rod Whitby escribió: If Openmoko had a community manager, that person would contact Michael directly and: 1) Invite Michael to get commit privs and commit this patch himself directly to the OM repo. This may include teaching about how it all works. or 2) Grab the patch, add it to the repo themselves (if Michael is not keen to become a full developer) and 3) Make sure the autobuilders for all the different distributions build this package and put it in the official feeds. 4) Add the entry to opk.org Then all Openmoko users would benefit from Michael's work, and hopefully Michael would accept the offer of commit access (and access to do everything else above for himself) and be able to port many more applications for Openmoko without needing the intervention of the community manager in the future. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Hey this is a great thing, I might actually have a look at some old finnish classics (http://www.lonnrot.net/etext.html) For some reason the line spacing seems to be a bit too small (with setting 2.0) and the lines overlap. Is there a way to make the line spacing even bigger than this? Hi Risto, I had set the default spacing to 3.0 (which should be fine); however it turns out that the options dialog only allows up to 2.0, so if you view the options dialog then click OK it resets the spacing to 2.0. I've now fixed this so the options dialog will let you select anything up to 4.0. Just install the updated package available here: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r7+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Hi Yarik, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Hey Michael! You are my today's hero! ;-) Thanks! Would it be not too much to ask from you to do the same for the latest release of fbreader (0.8.17[1]) instead of elderly 0.8.2 which we have now? [1] http://www.fbreader.org/fbreader-sources-0.8.17.tgz I'll see if I can make a working bitbake recipe for 0.8.17 when I next get some free time; I haven't fiddled with bitbake much, so thought it'd be simplest to just work with the version that was already packaged. Cheers, Mike. Best regards Yarik On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Michael Sheldon wrote: Hi all, To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had set the default spacing to 3.0 (which should be fine); however it turns out that the options dialog only allows up to 2.0, so if you view the options dialog then click OK it resets the spacing to 2.0. I've now fixed this so the options dialog will let you select anything up to 4.0. Just install the updated package available here: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r7+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk Wow, this is fast - and the fix works. Thank you!! FBreader inspired me to install evince to download PDF's required for studies on Freerunner :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Editing text files
How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an SSH-over-USB connection)? `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as painful as it gets). Clearly, we can do much better. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
2008/10/13 Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an SSH-over-USB connection)? `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide vi works fine here (well, as fine as any modal text editor 'works'...) if you use raster's kb, there is a terminal layout, with an escape key at far bottom right any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as painful as it gets). Clearly, we can do much better. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Great job, thanks! FBreader is a very nice e-book reader and from the looks of it seem to suit the FR perfectly. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an SSH-over-USB connection)? `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as painful as it gets). Clearly, we can do much better. I use Emacs 22 on Debian on the Freerunner with the Matchbox keyboard. Stefan -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2/3: What people want Openmoko to do?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang Spraul wrote: openmoko-kernel: 640 Wow 640 subscribed on the kernel list? That's a pretty wild number of people taking an interest in a daily flood of very technical stuff specific to Openmoko -- it's about ten times more than I would have guessed. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjycDUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp1zACeL9ma/Ea4hHZIn0RMzoyj3sSR hE8AmgJbuYnQUso20X38JdQWnlZehlkz =GEeU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Which mailing list to use?
On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:18 +1030, Rod Whitby wrote: Joel Newkirk wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 07:35:12 +1030, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who has the mindset of this is broken, how can I fix it? is a developer. Anyone who has the mindset of this is broken, I expect it to be fixed by someone else right now! is a user. ... WRT your final point, we already have the 'Support' mailinglist - my impression is that the intent of that list (not necessarily the actual usage though) is as a place for the 'user' to go when seeking answers and fixes, rather than seeking to involve themselves in the actual quest for those answers and fixes. Indeed, the trouble is there is a third list community which muddies the waters between devel and support, and the five word descriptions on lists.openmoko.org don't give people enough guidance on which list to use for what. Nor is there a community manager who is consistently and politely but firmly requiring people to use the correct lists ... Boy, that says it. Many times I've hesitated with a question unsure of the right place, devel, community, or support. I finally took a look and found this, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_resources#Mailing_Lists Even with that I'll probably wonder if what I have to say or ask is okay for the devel list. When unsure I've opted for community Is there a way to make simple even for me? Something like this for a start? Support: I have a problem please fix it. I have a problem help me fix it. Devel: I have a problem how can I help fix it. I'm working on this how do I ... I've made progress with ... I've solved this ... Community: I have a dream. I have an idea. I have some news. I have a gripe. Thanks for ... digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9: Is there zenity or gtkdialog package?
2008/10/13 W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, much appreciated. BillK no prob i'd be interested if you could find a gtkdialog ipk as well - zenity is very limited On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 09:19 +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/10/13 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a zenity or gtkdialog package for 2008.9? - I cant find one so far. Or is there something else for 2008.9 http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk installed fine in 2008.9, i had to manually get the deps from the same site not tried using it yet, but everything else on the phone seems fine ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:30:24AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had set the default spacing to 3.0 (which should be fine); however it turns out that the options dialog only allows up to 2.0, so if you view the options dialog then click OK it resets the spacing to 2.0. I've now fixed this so the options dialog will let you select anything up to 4.0. Just install the updated package available here: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r7+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk Wow, this is fast - and the fix works. Thank you!! FBreader inspired me to install evince to download PDF's required for studies on Freerunner :) Except that with a 28KB pdf, evince blew out of memory :( [ 5139.015000] Out of memory: kill process 1586 (sh) score 2109 or a child [ 5139.02] Killed process 1653 (evince) [ 5143.455000] klogd invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1201d2, order=0, oomkilladj=0 [ 5143.455000] [c002dbfc] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [c007a68c] (oom_kill_process+0x58/0xec) [ 5143.465000] [c007a634] (oom_kill_process+0x0/0xec) from [c007ab60] (out_of_memory+0x1a4/0x1fc) [ 5143.475000] r7:07fd r6:c7f9e200 r5:c0395158 r4:c769a320 [ 5143.48] [c007a9bc] (out_of_memory+0x0/0x1fc) from [c007cf04] (__alloc_pages+0x27c/0x308) [ 5143.49] [c007cc88] (__alloc_pages+0x0/0x308) from [c007f1a0] (__do_page_cache_readahead+0x148/0x2b0) [ 5143.50] [c007f058] (__do_page_cache_readahead+0x0/0x2b0) from [c007f7c4] (do_page_cache_readahead+0x70/0x80) [ 5143.51] [c007f754] (do_page_cache_readahead+0x0/0x80) from [c0079af8] (filemap_fault+0x1d4/0x454) [ 5143.52] r7:c76d5e20 r6:c64aa000 r5: r4: [ 5143.525000] [c0079924] (filemap_fault+0x0/0x454) from [c0084f3c] (__do_fault+0x74/0x43c) [ 5143.53] [c0084ec8] (__do_fault+0x0/0x43c) from [c008609c] (handle_mm_fault+0x308/0x700) [ 5143.54] [c0085d94] (handle_mm_fault+0x0/0x700) from [c002fde0] (do_page_fault+0x100/0x23c) [ 5143.55] [c002fce0] (do_page_fault+0x0/0x23c) from [c002ffd0] (do_translation_fault+0x20/0x80) [ 5143.56] [c002ffb0] (do_translation_fault+0x0/0x80) from [c00281bc] (do_PrefetchAbort+0x18/0x1c) [ 5143.57] r5:00085e00 r4: [ 5143.57] [c00281a4] (do_PrefetchAbort+0x0/0x1c) from [c0028e80] (ret_from_exception+0x0/0x10) [ 5143.58] Exception stack(0xc64abfb0 to 0xc64abff8) [ 5143.585000] bfa0: 0be5 00085e00 2000 0001 [ 5143.595000] bfc0: 0053 00085e00 0053 0067 0007a69a 003b 0006e9f4 0002 [ 5143.60] bfe0: 4001d0e0 be9e8b48 000359b4 401a29dc 6010 [ 5143.61] Mem-info: [ 5143.615000] DMA per-cpu: [ 5143.615000] CPU0: Hot: hi: 42, btch: 7 usd: 35 Cold: hi: 14, btch: 3 usd: 11 [ 5143.62] Active:25861 inactive:950 dirty:0 writeback:0 unstable:0 [ 5143.62] free:379 slab:2317 mapped:0 pagetables:314 bounce:0 [ 5143.625000] DMA free:1516kB min:1440kB low:1800kB high:2160kB active:103444kB inactive:3800kB present:130048kB pages_scanned:256073 all_unreclaimable? yes [ 5143.63] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 [ 5143.635000] DMA: 25*4kB 1*8kB 0*16kB 0*32kB 2*64kB 0*128kB 1*256kB 0*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 1516kB [ 5143.645000] Swap cache: add 0, delete 0, find 0/0, race 0+0 [ 5143.65] Free swap = 0kB [ 5143.65] Total swap = 0kB [ 5143.655000] Free swap:0kB [ 5143.67] 32768 pages of RAM [ 5143.67] 624 free pages [ 5143.67] 1938 reserved pages [ 5143.67] 2317 slab pages [ 5143.675000] 177 pages shared [ 5143.675000] 0 pages swap cached [ 5143.68] Out of memory: kill process 1650 (evince) score 2045 or a child [ 5143.69] Killed process 1650 (evince) [ 5148.19] power_supply bat: driver failed to report `capacity' property [ 5150.065000] ar6000_ioctl_giwscan(): data length 0 -- You are what you see. Today is Setting Orange, the 66th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Michael Sheldon wrote: Hi Yarik, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Hey Michael! You are my today's hero! ;-) Thanks! Would it be not too much to ask from you to do the same for the latest release of fbreader (0.8.17[1]) instead of elderly 0.8.2 which we have now? [1] http://www.fbreader.org/fbreader-sources-0.8.17.tgz I'll see if I can make a working bitbake recipe for 0.8.17 when I next get some free time; I haven't fiddled with bitbake much, so thought it'd be simplest to just work with the version that was already packaged. Cheers, Mike. You ROCK! Your updates to FBReader look fantastic and work flawlessly. I was wanting to have a good reader for the Openmoko for some time. I tried out FBreader but found that the line spacing is fubar. I started learning about crosscompiling, mokomakefile, toolchain, bitbake, openembedded, openmoko, angstrom etc., trying to make sense of how to develop for Openmoko but hadn't been successful yet. You will find that the line spacing issue has been resolved in more recent builds. (Can't remember off hand which one.) In the meantime I am going to enjoy your version. Thanks much. Scott Petersen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:30:24AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had set the default spacing to 3.0 (which should be fine); however it turns out that the options dialog only allows up to 2.0, so if you view the options dialog then click OK it resets the spacing to 2.0. I've now fixed this so the options dialog will let you select anything up to 4.0. Just install the updated package available here: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r7+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk Wow, this is fast - and the fix works. Thank you!! FBreader inspired me to install evince to download PDF's required for studies on Freerunner :) Except that with a 28KB pdf, evince blew out of memory :( Odd, the last pdf I read on Evince with freerunner was 10Mb. I also read cbz files and djvu files, and the djvu file was 15mb. (This was on Debian) [ 5139.015000] Out of memory: kill process 1586 (sh) score 2109 or a child [ 5139.02] Killed process 1653 (evince) [ 5143.455000] klogd invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1201d2, order=0, oomkilladj=0 [ 5143.455000] [c002dbfc] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [c007a68c] (oom_kill_process+0x58/0xec) [ 5143.465000] [c007a634] (oom_kill_process+0x0/0xec) from [c007ab60] (out_of_memory+0x1a4/0x1fc) [ 5143.475000] r7:07fd r6:c7f9e200 r5:c0395158 r4:c769a320 [ 5143.48] [c007a9bc] (out_of_memory+0x0/0x1fc) from [c007cf04] (__alloc_pages+0x27c/0x308) [ 5143.49] [c007cc88] (__alloc_pages+0x0/0x308) from [c007f1a0] (__do_page_cache_readahead+0x148/0x2b0) [ 5143.50] [c007f058] (__do_page_cache_readahead+0x0/0x2b0) from [c007f7c4] (do_page_cache_readahead+0x70/0x80) [ 5143.51] [c007f754] (do_page_cache_readahead+0x0/0x80) from [c0079af8] (filemap_fault+0x1d4/0x454) [ 5143.52] r7:c76d5e20 r6:c64aa000 r5: r4: [ 5143.525000] [c0079924] (filemap_fault+0x0/0x454) from [c0084f3c] (__do_fault+0x74/0x43c) [ 5143.53] [c0084ec8] (__do_fault+0x0/0x43c) from [c008609c] (handle_mm_fault+0x308/0x700) [ 5143.54] [c0085d94] (handle_mm_fault+0x0/0x700) from [c002fde0] (do_page_fault+0x100/0x23c) [ 5143.55] [c002fce0] (do_page_fault+0x0/0x23c) from [c002ffd0] (do_translation_fault+0x20/0x80) [ 5143.56] [c002ffb0] (do_translation_fault+0x0/0x80) from [c00281bc] (do_PrefetchAbort+0x18/0x1c) [ 5143.57] r5:00085e00 r4: [ 5143.57] [c00281a4] (do_PrefetchAbort+0x0/0x1c) from [c0028e80] (ret_from_exception+0x0/0x10) [ 5143.58] Exception stack(0xc64abfb0 to 0xc64abff8) [ 5143.585000] bfa0: 0be5 00085e00 2000 0001 [ 5143.595000] bfc0: 0053 00085e00 0053 0067 0007a69a 003b 0006e9f4 0002 [ 5143.60] bfe0: 4001d0e0 be9e8b48 000359b4 401a29dc 6010 [ 5143.61] Mem-info: [ 5143.615000] DMA per-cpu: [ 5143.615000] CPU0: Hot: hi: 42, btch: 7 usd: 35 Cold: hi: 14, btch: 3 usd: 11 [ 5143.62] Active:25861 inactive:950 dirty:0 writeback:0 unstable:0 [ 5143.62] free:379 slab:2317 mapped:0 pagetables:314 bounce:0 [ 5143.625000] DMA free:1516kB min:1440kB low:1800kB high:2160kB active:103444kB inactive:3800kB present:130048kB pages_scanned:256073 all_unreclaimable? yes [ 5143.63] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 [ 5143.635000] DMA: 25*4kB 1*8kB 0*16kB 0*32kB 2*64kB 0*128kB 1*256kB 0*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 1516kB [ 5143.645000] Swap cache: add 0, delete 0, find 0/0, race 0+0 [ 5143.65] Free swap = 0kB [ 5143.65] Total swap = 0kB [ 5143.655000] Free swap:0kB [ 5143.67] 32768 pages of RAM [ 5143.67] 624 free pages [ 5143.67] 1938 reserved pages [ 5143.67] 2317 slab pages [ 5143.675000] 177 pages shared [ 5143.675000] 0 pages swap cached [ 5143.68] Out of memory: kill process 1650 (evince) score 2045 or a child [ 5143.69] Killed process 1650 (evince) [ 5148.19] power_supply bat: driver failed to report `capacity' property [ 5150.065000] ar6000_ioctl_giwscan(): data length 0 -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:33:28 -0400, Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an SSH-over-USB connection)? `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as painful as it gets). Clearly, we can do much better. Stefan I use Raster's Illume keyboard, and select the Terminal layout, and most of my editing is done with mc, Midnight Commander. mc -e text.txt fires it up editing that text file, though I usually have it running in file manager mode already, so I F4 to edit (esc then '4' subs in mc for F4) or tap the 'edit' button at the bottom. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
I had nothing else running other than evince (from the GUI stack) and I must confess I was adapting zoom levels until it was readable, but I never got to see the result since it was oom-killed... Rui On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:50:51AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:30:24AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had set the default spacing to 3.0 (which should be fine); however it turns out that the options dialog only allows up to 2.0, so if you view the options dialog then click OK it resets the spacing to 2.0. I've now fixed this so the options dialog will let you select anything up to 4.0. Just install the updated package available here: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r7+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk Wow, this is fast - and the fix works. Thank you!! FBreader inspired me to install evince to download PDF's required for studies on Freerunner :) Except that with a 28KB pdf, evince blew out of memory :( Odd, the last pdf I read on Evince with freerunner was 10Mb. I also read cbz files and djvu files, and the djvu file was 15mb. (This was on Debian) [ 5139.015000] Out of memory: kill process 1586 (sh) score 2109 or a child [ 5139.02] Killed process 1653 (evince) [ 5143.455000] klogd invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1201d2, order=0, oomkilladj=0 [ 5143.455000] [c002dbfc] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [c007a68c] (oom_kill_process+0x58/0xec) [ 5143.465000] [c007a634] (oom_kill_process+0x0/0xec) from [c007ab60] (out_of_memory+0x1a4/0x1fc) [ 5143.475000] r7:07fd r6:c7f9e200 r5:c0395158 r4:c769a320 [ 5143.48] [c007a9bc] (out_of_memory+0x0/0x1fc) from [c007cf04] (__alloc_pages+0x27c/0x308) [ 5143.49] [c007cc88] (__alloc_pages+0x0/0x308) from [c007f1a0] (__do_page_cache_readahead+0x148/0x2b0) [ 5143.50] [c007f058] (__do_page_cache_readahead+0x0/0x2b0) from [c007f7c4] (do_page_cache_readahead+0x70/0x80) [ 5143.51] [c007f754] (do_page_cache_readahead+0x0/0x80) from [c0079af8] (filemap_fault+0x1d4/0x454) [ 5143.52] r7:c76d5e20 r6:c64aa000 r5: r4: [ 5143.525000] [c0079924] (filemap_fault+0x0/0x454) from [c0084f3c] (__do_fault+0x74/0x43c) [ 5143.53] [c0084ec8] (__do_fault+0x0/0x43c) from [c008609c] (handle_mm_fault+0x308/0x700) [ 5143.54] [c0085d94] (handle_mm_fault+0x0/0x700) from [c002fde0] (do_page_fault+0x100/0x23c) [ 5143.55] [c002fce0] (do_page_fault+0x0/0x23c) from [c002ffd0] (do_translation_fault+0x20/0x80) [ 5143.56] [c002ffb0] (do_translation_fault+0x0/0x80) from [c00281bc] (do_PrefetchAbort+0x18/0x1c) [ 5143.57] r5:00085e00 r4: [ 5143.57] [c00281a4] (do_PrefetchAbort+0x0/0x1c) from [c0028e80] (ret_from_exception+0x0/0x10) [ 5143.58] Exception stack(0xc64abfb0 to 0xc64abff8) [ 5143.585000] bfa0: 0be5 00085e00 2000 0001 [ 5143.595000] bfc0: 0053 00085e00 0053 0067 0007a69a 003b 0006e9f4 0002 [ 5143.60] bfe0: 4001d0e0 be9e8b48 000359b4 401a29dc 6010 [ 5143.61] Mem-info: [ 5143.615000] DMA per-cpu: [ 5143.615000] CPU0: Hot: hi: 42, btch: 7 usd: 35 Cold: hi: 14, btch: 3 usd: 11 [ 5143.62] Active:25861 inactive:950 dirty:0 writeback:0 unstable:0 [ 5143.62] free:379 slab:2317 mapped:0 pagetables:314 bounce:0 [ 5143.625000] DMA free:1516kB min:1440kB low:1800kB high:2160kB active:103444kB inactive:3800kB present:130048kB pages_scanned:256073 all_unreclaimable? yes [ 5143.63] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 [ 5143.635000] DMA: 25*4kB 1*8kB 0*16kB 0*32kB 2*64kB 0*128kB 1*256kB 0*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 1516kB [ 5143.645000] Swap cache: add 0, delete 0, find 0/0, race 0+0 [ 5143.65] Free swap = 0kB [ 5143.65] Total swap = 0kB [ 5143.655000] Free swap:0kB [ 5143.67] 32768 pages of RAM [ 5143.67] 624 free pages [ 5143.67] 1938 reserved pages [ 5143.67] 2317 slab pages [ 5143.675000] 177 pages shared [ 5143.675000] 0 pages swap cached [ 5143.68] Out of memory: kill process 1650 (evince) score 2045 or a child [ 5143.69] Killed process 1650 (evince) [ 5148.19] power_supply bat: driver failed to report `capacity' property [ 5150.065000] ar6000_ioctl_giwscan(): data length 0 -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fnord. Today is Setting Orange, the 66th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So
UBIFS was Re: Compressed file system for SD?
I haven't sorry. Coincidentaly, the new kernel which was released the other day (.27) includes a new filesystem designed for flash drives - UBIFS [1]. I wonder if this could be relevant to this project. It looks like it has full write-back support, meaning it doesn't need to write to the SD card all the time, although I guess we don't have that much memory to play with. -Nick 1. http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_27#head-b8ec452c4a02e08d68deeba6f471680e15e42019 http://lwn.net/Articles/276025/ http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_27Stefan Monnier wrote: The jffs filesystem used on the NAND is compressing, which is great for our use case. For the SD that would also be very desirable (especially with the provided 512MB µSD), but it seems that ext3 is the filesystem of choice there. Has someone tried to use a compressing filesystem there? Stefan PS: I've used jffs2 on a USB drive (through block2mtd) and it works, but it's inefficient (because of block2mtd) and it's not clear how/if it would work here (it went through an initrd); but a basic x86 Debian install (for rescue, but including gcc to compile extra packages) fits just fine in 256MB this way, so 512MB would be plenty. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
Check out nano . -Scott \ Stefan Monnier wrote: How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an SSH-over-USB connection)? `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as painful as it gets). Clearly, we can do much better. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Editing-text-files-tp1323540p1323843.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: UBIFS was Re: Compressed file system for SD?
nickd wrote: I haven't sorry. Coincidentaly, the new kernel which was released the other day (.27) includes a new filesystem designed for flash drives - UBIFS [1]. I wonder if this could be relevant to this project. It looks like it has full write-back support, meaning it doesn't need to write to the SD card all the time, although I guess we don't have that much memory to play with. ubifs wont work on sd cards, which are not true flash devices. but it is relevant and could replace jffs2. Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: UBIFS was Re: Compressed file system for SD?
Bummer. Upon further reading I see the difference in flash devices now. Do you think UBIFS could replace JFFS on the Freerunner? Is there a benefit? Or is there not enough wiggle room on the FR for caching? It seems better overall [1]. Would it be possible to replace it yourself with the appropriate kernel modules etc? Ok enough questions ;-) -Nick 1. http://lwn.net/Articles/275706/ Lorn Potter wrote: nickd wrote: I haven't sorry. Coincidentaly, the new kernel which was released the other day (.27) includes a new filesystem designed for flash drives - UBIFS [1]. I wonder if this could be relevant to this project. It looks like it has full write-back support, meaning it doesn't need to write to the SD card all the time, although I guess we don't have that much memory to play with. ubifs wont work on sd cards, which are not true flash devices. but it is relevant and could replace jffs2. Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Auxlaunch
Hi, I wanted a simple, very finger-friendly app launcher for my Freerunner running Debian. I also wanted to access it using the Aux button. So, I mixed code from the PyGTK hello world example with code from matchbox-keyboard-toggle and came up with Auxlaunch. A screenshot and download link is at aliasid.googlepages.com/auxlaunch if you're interested. At first, it minimizes and waits for the Aux button to be pressed. Then, it pops up full screen and shows 3 large buttons. You use the up and down buttons to change the top button. Press the top button and the selected app starts. You can configure the choices by editing the .auxlaunchrc text file. I added an item for Suspend (apm -s), too. Anyway, thought I'd share. Comments and questions are welcome. My apologies if this is the wrong way to announce. Thanks to Openmoko for the Freerunner and thanks to the Debian folks for, well, Debian, - Aliasid ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Using the neo as a Bluetooth external gps...
Hi! It may be interesting to serve raw nmea gps output over bluetooth to have it used by some other phones/pda with routing/navigation software. This will permit to test gps accuracy against usual bt gps antennas, and to eliminate another device, cable and battery from my car :))) Any idea about this? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using the neo as a Bluetooth external gps...
Nicola Mfb wrote: It may be interesting to serve raw nmea gps output over bluetooth to have it used by some other phones/pda with routing/navigation software. This will permit to test gps accuracy against usual bt gps antennas, and to eliminate another device, cable and battery from my car :))) Any idea about this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Bluetooth_GPS_relay ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
