[Qtextended] [X-post] The ugly part

2008-11-01 Thread Nishit Dave
Well, I spoke too soon.  There was some gsm buzzing even I could hear on a
call, so I switched on the speaker.  Result: LOUD feedback.  So I inserted
the headphones while the call was on (after apologizing to the other party).
Result: LOUD feedback from the earphones.

I removed the earphones, reverted to the handset, but the other party was
not at all audible.  So I disconnected, and dialed again, only to realize
after some attempts that gsm had stopped working.  The only workable remedy
was to reboot the phone.

I repeat that I have used the binary update for 4.4.2, which means my
original .state files (as fiddled with countless times) must be intact, and
the 'official' .state files may have a better overall results.  However, I
also noticed something else: when I pick up an incoming call on the handset,
first there is an audible squeak like feedback for half a second.

I really wonder what is happening here.  I might have to unwillingly
downgrade the FR with Qtextended from 'almost a daily phone' to 'not at all
a daily phone' if this persists.

Oh, by the way, my interest is in seeing that the FR becomes a daily phone
for *everyone*, except for those who stubbornly refuse to admit it was ever
meant to be one.
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Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC

2008-11-01 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to write small app on my PC using neo1973's GSM modem. I'd
 like to somehow forward /dev/ttySAC0 and have serial device in my
 Linux' /dev and connect to it as to ordinary serial port.
 I have debian installed so I have an access to plenty of packages.
 
 Any ideas? Thank you in advance.

first thing that crosses my mind is netcat. with some clever scripting
it might even be possble to do it in bash alone. (man nc)

best regards ...
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Re: [Qtextended] [X-post] The ugly part

2008-11-01 Thread Andreas Wallin
I can confirm the exact behaviour on my freerunner gta02, after the
upgrade to 4.4.2 from 4.4.1.


Nishit Dave wrote:
 Well, I spoke too soon.  There was some gsm buzzing even I could hear
 on a call, so I switched on the speaker.  Result: LOUD feedback.  So I
 inserted the headphones while the call was on (after apologizing to
 the other party). Result: LOUD feedback from the earphones.

 I removed the earphones, reverted to the handset, but the other party
 was not at all audible.  So I disconnected, and dialed again, only to
 realize after some attempts that gsm had stopped working.  The only
 workable remedy was to reboot the phone. 

 I repeat that I have used the binary update for 4.4.2, which means my
 original .state files (as fiddled with countless times) must be
 intact, and the 'official' .state files may have a better overall
 results.  However, I also noticed something else: when I pick up an
 incoming call on the handset, first there is an audible squeak like
 feedback for half a second.

 I really wonder what is happening here.  I might have to unwillingly
 downgrade the FR with Qtextended from 'almost a daily phone' to 'not
 at all a daily phone' if this persists.

 Oh, by the way, my interest is in seeing that the FR becomes a daily
 phone for *everyone*, except for those who stubbornly refuse to admit
 it was ever meant to be one.
 

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Re: Receiving empty sms after registration

2008-11-01 Thread David Pottage
On Friday 31 October 2008 12:03:33 Alexandre Girard wrote:
 Hi,

 I receive an empty sms each time I register with my phone provider
 (Bouygues in France, Simio in Spain), with an origin address like _@.

 Has anybody got the same behavior?
 Is it coming from the phone or from the provider?

I think that is a message from your operator to say that you have a new 
voicemail message. 

When the phone gets that message it should give you a new voicemail popup or 
other indicator instead of putting the message in your SMS inbox.

Could you phone your voicemail mailbox to see if this is the case?



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Re: Receiving empty sms after registration

2008-11-01 Thread Paul

 I receive an empty sms each time I register with my phone provider
 (Bouygues in France, Simio in Spain), with an origin address like _@.

 Has anybody got the same behavior?
 Is it coming from the phone or from the provider?
 

 I think that is a message from your operator to say that you have a new 
 voicemail message. 

 When the phone gets that message it should give you a new voicemail popup 
 or 
 other indicator instead of putting the message in your SMS inbox.

 Could you phone your voicemail mailbox to see if this is the case?
   

And do you have the option to test this with another phone?
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Re: Status update from optimization team

2008-11-01 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Great work, thanks for the update!!

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Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available

2008-11-01 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Thanks for Neotool!

Found a typo: Neotool Configurification (instead of Configuration)
And menu item 'setup neotool' takes to 'neotool configuration', a
consistency in the names would make it easier to use.

Could you add 'backup home folder' option there as well, maybe even
'Backup µSD card'? I know it's slow but some users might find it
useful to backup some scripts they've created. I might also have
understood this wrong that backing up rootfs does this (but the files
are not easily accessible?)

I also noticed that (Kubuntu intrepid, kde4) for some reason always
when I click a button on NeoTool the new view is opened behind another
open window.


Great tool, thanks!

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Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I want to write small app on my PC using neo1973's GSM modem. I'd like
 to somehow forward /dev/ttySAC0 and have serial device in my Linux'
 /dev and connect to it as to ordinary serial port.
 I have debian installed so I have an access to plenty of packages.

1) sudo apt-get install ser2net
2) edit /etc/ser2net.conf to include

2000:raw:600:/dev/ttySAC0:38400 8DATABITS NONE 1STOPBIT

3) socat TCP4:192.168.0.202:2000 PIPE:gsm.pipe

would at least give you gsm.pipe that allows you to read and write
to GSM. If you really need a tty with all the odd ioctls then it's bit
more challenging and you probably want to use

fusd-kor-source - Source for the fusd kernel module

to build a serial port redirector.


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Re: [debian/zhone] Start up customization

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 In case anyone else wants to use it, my .xsession is now:

Just for the record my .xsession (with gdm autologin) is now:

#!/bin/sh

. ~/.bashrc
export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so
setxkbmap fi
xmodmap -e keycode 191 = ISO_Level3_Shift
xset s 20 10
xrdb ~/.Xdefaults
#xterm 
#sleep 1
#zhone 
#matchbox-keyboard-toggle 
if [ ! -e /tmp/bootup.stamp ]; then
touch /tmp/bootup.stamp
~/.bootuprc 
fi
#exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar no
exec icewm-session

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Re: gsm and freerunner

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Guglielmo Dapavo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Looks like the gsm chip on the freerunner stopped working, I cannot 
 register anymore to the network, tried resetting to the latest kernel 
 and rootfs from 2008.9 and tested several sim cards but I cannot get a 
 network registration anymore, what should I do to confirm it is an 
 hardware problem?

Make a call manually:

echo 0  /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
echo 1  /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
alsactl restore -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state
socat - file:/dev/ttySAC0,crtscts,crnl,b115200

ATE1
AT+CFUN=1
AT+CPIN=${pincode}
AT+CPIN?
AT+COPS
AT+COPS?
ATD${test_number}
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Suspend/Resume question

2008-11-01 Thread Nicola Mfb
Hi!
How to determine the event/device (alarm/incoming call/sms/power button
etc.) that resumed a suspended Freerunner?

Regards

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Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a
 few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative like
   http://www.zagg.com/

Call me paranoid but I bought both invisible shield(tm) and also keep
the phone inside a leather case with a transparent window:

http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/leather_case1.jpg

There is some dust below the invisible shield but I'm bit afraid to
remove it. I use the extra case mostly since I can attach it to my
belt, it protects the phone from all sides and it makes it easy to
remove fingerprint from the screen (I don't use a stylus).

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Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available

2008-11-01 Thread Dale Maggee

 Thanks for Neotool!
   
You're welcome! :)

 Found a typo: Neotool Configurification (instead of Configuration)
 And menu item 'setup neotool' takes to 'neotool configuration', a
 consistency in the names would make it easier to use.
   
Are you sure that it's inconsistent? I just had a look and I don't see 
configuration anywhere, I believe it's pretty consistently called 
configurification. Are you using the new v1.2? It could be that I had 
configuration in there somewhere, spotted and changed it, but didn't 
include it in the changelog. This is not a typo, it's a word I invented 
ages back and quite like... ;)

 Could you add 'backup home folder' option there as well, maybe even
 'Backup µSD card'? I know it's slow but some users might find it
 useful to backup some scripts they've created. I might also have
 understood this wrong that backing up rootfs does this (but the files
 are not easily accessible?)
   
Backup home Is actually already on my todo list, as it's something 
I've wanted to do, so yes, I definitely will add that, once I get the 
time. Backup MicroSD is a great suggestion, too, I'll put it on the todo 
list as well.

 I also noticed that (Kubuntu intrepid, kde4) for some reason always
 when I click a button on NeoTool the new view is opened behind another
 open window.
   
That's odd, and to be honest I have absolutely no idea why it's 
happening - I'd guess that it's an issue with either zenity or kde4, or 
a combination of both, but I really don't know about that one! All I can 
really say is that's not supposed to be happening and it doesn't do 
that for me! (Fedora, gnome). Anybody who has a suggestion is welcome 
to add their $0.02!


 Great tool, thanks!
   

Ooooh, praise! You're very welcome! :)

-Dale

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Determine Distro?

2008-11-01 Thread Dale Maggee
Hi,

Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner 
from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool 
to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to 
determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.

I was thinking that one thing I could do would be 'which addressbook' to 
find Qtopia / 2008.x, but does anybody have a better suggestion?

Regards,
-Dale

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Re: How to change hardware, usbkeyboard layout?

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Morten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Well, i've been searching quite thorough but haven't found anything. The
 most logical thing for me would be to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it
 issn't there :S

Maybe you are running xglamo instead of xorg? Can you try with xorg first?



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Re: running om2008 as normal user

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I have been using debian so that all X apps run as normal user for
 almost a month now.

 with everything? suspend, gps, wlan, you name it?

Yes except that wlan use is bit problematic because of

http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1597

that I hit all the time.



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Re: Determine Distro?

2008-11-01 Thread Tim Churchard
Dale Maggee wrote:
 Hi,

 Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner 
 from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool 
 to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to 
 determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.

 I was thinking that one thing I could do would be 'which addressbook' to 
 find Qtopia / 2008.x, but does anybody have a better suggestion?

   
cat /etc/om-version   will tell you which branch of code you're running
(eg org.openmoko.asu.stable {200?.?  FDOM} or fso / shr  - qtopia
probably also has one of these?




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Re: How to change hardware, usbkeyboard layout?

2008-11-01 Thread Morten



Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 
 Morten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Well, i've been searching quite thorough but haven't found anything. The
 most logical thing for me would be to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it
 issn't there :S
 
 Maybe you are running xglamo instead of xorg? Can you try with xorg first?
 
 
 
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Ah! Where would the config files for keyboard layout be for the xglamo then?
Untill i find a good solution, I've found a preliminary one: I use xmodmap
to change to a hardcoded layout. It's wery dirty, and not a good solution,
but it's the best I've got.

I've also got another question. Sometimes, after a suspend, the keyboard
will not work. I've viewed dmesg, and it seems like if it prints:
power_supply bat: driver failed to report the keyboard will not be
detected.
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Re: How to change hardware, usbkeyboard layout?

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Morten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Ah! Where would the config files for keyboard layout be for the xglamo then?

Afaik xglamo does not do configuration files.


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Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available

2008-11-01 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/10/31 Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Just a quick note to announce a new version of NeoTool.


nice work!

could i make a feature request? as there is a link on the om site
pointing to the 'latest' kernel/uboot/rootfs to download, could
neotool be developed further, to download it and then flash it all in
one step?

or is this impossible because a long pause (while the file's being
downloaded) at the uboot screen will cause the neo to carry on
booting? or is there a way round this, i.e. telling the neo to wait
for an indefinite amount of time, or tricking it into thinking
something is happening while the file downloads?

thanks

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Re: Determine Distro?

2008-11-01 Thread Dale Maggee
Tim Churchard wrote:
 Dale Maggee wrote:
   
 Hi,

 Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner 
 from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool 
 to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to 
 determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.

 I was thinking that one thing I could do would be 'which addressbook' to 
 find Qtopia / 2008.x, but does anybody have a better suggestion?

   
 
 cat /etc/om-version   will tell you which branch of code you're running
 (eg org.openmoko.asu.stable {200?.?  FDOM} or fso / shr  - qtopia
 probably also has one of these?

   
thanks, but there's no /etc/om-version in 2007.2...

-Dale


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Re: Determine Distro?

2008-11-01 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Saturday, November 01, 2008 a las 02:55:42PM +, Tim Churchard 
escribió:

 Dale Maggee wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner 
  from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool 
  to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to 
  determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.
 
  I was thinking that one thing I could do would be 'which addressbook' to 
  find Qtopia / 2008.x, but does anybody have a better suggestion?
 

 cat /etc/om-version   will tell you which branch of code you're running
 (eg org.openmoko.asu.stable {200?.?  FDOM} or fso / shr  - qtopia
 probably also has one of these?

I do run Om2008.9, but it does not show up as this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/om-version
Tag Name:
VERSION: 21895bf33f04f36292eec686438b55a514cb715d
Branch: org.openmoko.asu.stable
Build Host: barbie
Time Stamp: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:25:15 +0800

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Re: Suspend/Resume question

2008-11-01 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/11/2 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 How to determine the event/device (alarm/incoming call/sms/power button
 etc.) that resumed a suspended Freerunner?


http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#Resume_Reason

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Re: FSO Control - New Project and Initial Package

2008-11-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Friday 31 October 2008 02:35:01 schrieb digger vermont:
 Hey,

 Here's a package for fso-control. A finger-friendly Edje GUI to control
 your phone with frameworkd.

Amazing! Do you have a screenshot?

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Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available

2008-11-01 Thread Dale Maggee

 nice work!
   

Thanks
 could i make a feature request? as there is a link on the om site
 pointing to the 'latest' kernel/uboot/rootfs to download, could
 neotool be developed further, to download it and then flash it all in
 one step?

 or is this impossible because a long pause (while the file's being
 downloaded) at the uboot screen will cause the neo to carry on
 booting? or is there a way round this, i.e. telling the neo to wait
 for an indefinite amount of time, or tricking it into thinking
 something is happening while the file downloads?
   
I've had this thought, too - it has occurred to me that a 'download 
latest release' option would be cool...

It's not impossible because of the pause while downloading, I'd just 
make NeoTool download the file before showing the About to flash, 
Please boot to the menu message.

There are a few problems, though:

One problem I had was determining where to get the files, and how to 
tell when there's a new release - I'd rather not hard code addresses 
into it, so for this to work there would need to be something like:

http://downloads.openmoko.com/releases/latest/release.jffs2
http://downloads.openmoko.com/releases/latest/kernel.bin

you say there is a link on the om site pointing to the 'latest' 
kernel/uboot/rootfs to download... which link are you referring to?

Another issue I had was determining which files to download: I'd need to 
prompt to find out whether to get the GTA01 or GTA02 files.

Alternatively, I guess it would be possible to traverse 
downloads.openmoko.org and present a menu allowing the user to specify 
what to download, but I don't know how to at the moment, and this is 
basically duplicating the functionality of pointing your browser to this 
address, so it seems kind of redundant to me.

In the end I decided not to do it because I figured I'd basically be 
duplicating your browser's functionality, and that I would be better off 
devoting my efforts to more Neo-specific stuff, like adding the ability 
to backup.

If anybody has any other Ideas on how I might go about implementing 
this, I'd love to hear them.

-Dale

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Re: Determine Distro?

2008-11-01 Thread Charles Pax
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner
 from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool
 to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to
 determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.


Have you considered writing a plugin for Conduit [1]? It can synchronize
across a network two evolution data servers, so Conduit + USB networking
could make for a nice solution.

-Charles Pax

[1] http://www.conduit-project.org/
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Re: Suspend/Resume question

2008-11-01 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/11/1 Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2008/11/2 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  How to determine the event/device (alarm/incoming call/sms/power button
  etc.) that resumed a suspended Freerunner?


 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#Resume_Reason


Great!
I was searching without success for a general way to achieve this on others
platform too.
This is enough for me to ignore the next power button event if freerunner
resume from the power button itself.
Thank you very much!

Nicola
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[debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-01 Thread Davide Scaini
Hi all,
just a question: How is the packaging of elightment+illume going?
thanks (lokking forward for a usable keyboard on debian)
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Re: Howto remap AUX and Power Button

2008-11-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Monday 27 October 2008 17:25:37 schrieb Alexander Syring:
 Hi @ all
 I cannot find how to remap the AUX and the Powerbutton in ASU like in
 Om2007.2.
 Is that possible that the powerbutton closes a program an the AUX calls a
 menu?

Unfortunately this is not possible in Om2008.x without programming. You can 
try to adjust neod to do that on 2008.x.

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Re: Debugging frameworkd and ogpsd

2008-11-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 06:28:38 schrieb Angus Ainslie:
 I'm try to figure out why ogpsd is failing to start, The ERROR below gets
 truncated so I can't see where the traceback leads. Is there some way to
 start only ogpsd from the command line so I can see the full error

frameworkd --help will tell you

 or can 
 the traceback be dumped to a file ?

you can edit /etc/frameworkd.conf to do that. See here for a documented conf 
file example:

http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf;h=e396e96189aa98a552d2b692ea829f949df0a6d0;hb=6f7db0edde1849741f2edd162467f7e61fd2fbf0
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Re: opkg.org and neo1973-germany.de

2008-11-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 08:18:04 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
 I see that some great software has been done in Germany. Would it be
 possible to add these to opkg.org to get bigger audience and user
 base?

Sounds cool. Seems most of the software on neo1973-germany.de is in limbo 
though :/

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Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls

2008-11-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:13:25 schrieb Previdi Roberto:
 Is there a plan to access also the accelerometers through dbus?

Yes, and no. frameworkd wants to integrate Paul V. Borza's excellent gesturesd 
to serve accellerometer gestures over dbus -- that's on our task list, 
however we didn't have a chance to start with that yet, since there are 
other, more pressuring things. We don't want to add an API that simply covers 
the sysfs files, since this would not add value and consume lots of power.

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Re: Some debian questions

2008-11-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 04:21:01 schrieb Guillaume Chereau:
  You can already add new rules using the dbus call :
  org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s)
 
  the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules
  file.
 
  For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using
  'name' attribute in the rules file.)
  I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and
  remove rules.

 Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py
 in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules.

Hi Charlie,

I have just added a skeleton for org.freesmartphone.Events in the specs 
repository, please fill it with some docs when you have a chance.

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Re: fso-control

2008-11-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 13:22:05 schrieb Tilman Baumann:
 Nice

 This adds some long missing featues.

 Some way to invoke the illume lock thing as it did in early previews
 with the aux button would be great. Regarding the lock button... ;)

 Invoking it via power button does not work tough. I still get the wired
 'keep pressed, let go, ...' dialog which seems like a nice idea but does
 not work well and i don't get the concept...

It's obsolete now anyways since we no longer need to hold the power button. 
Instead, a short press will trigger suspend. Will rip the window out before 
ms4 (due very soon).

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Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls

2008-11-01 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:21:42 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:13:25 schrieb Previdi Roberto:
 Is there a plan to access also the accelerometers through dbus?
 
 Yes, and no. frameworkd wants to integrate Paul V. Borza's excellent
 gesturesd
 to serve accellerometer gestures over dbus -- that's on our task list,
 however we didn't have a chance to start with that yet, since there are
 other, more pressuring things. We don't want to add an API that simply
 covers
 the sysfs files, since this would not add value and consume lots of
power.
 
 --
 :M:

Any plans on exposing 'orientation', with a change signal?  Six basic
orientations, possibly a flag to note if the orientation appears to be
changing 'now' (IE rotation seems to be taking place but not yet reached
threshold to consider a new orientation), another for 'in motion' (IE, if
sum of vectors is ~1g then figure orientation, if sum is g by at least
10% or some such factor then consider it 'in motion' and do NOT consider
orientation changed), and a signal emitted to subscribers when the
orientation has clearly changed.  

something like:

trigger: orientationchange()
filters: HasAttr(orientation,facedown)

could be used to set 'donotdisturb', then filter Not(HasAttr) to
restore.  For my personal use, I'd set it up to always lock the touchscreen
if vertically inverted.  (when not in use, my FR is in my pocket, %100 of
the time it's inverted, and I'm tired of finding launched apps, zhone
trying to dial, zhone GPS open, etc)

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Re: Determine Distro?

2008-11-01 Thread Dale Maggee
Charles Pax wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

   
 Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner
 from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool
 to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to
 determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.

 

 Have you considered writing a plugin for Conduit [1]? It can synchronize
 across a network two evolution data servers, so Conduit + USB networking
 could make for a nice solution.

 -Charles Pax

 [1] http://www.conduit-project.org/
   
I'm still learning bash, so no, I haven't considered that! I just want 
to automate using the existing tools to import and export vcf files...

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Freerunner GA02, 8GB SD for sale Boston area

2008-11-01 Thread Craig B. Allen
I am reluctantly selling my GA02 because I have realized that a
smartphone displays text that is too small for me (too vain to wear
glasses fulltime, will buy a netbook instead).

Phone is in excellent condition and includes all original goodies that
came with Group Sales phone:
 - stereo headset
 - 512 MB SanDisk micro SD
 - pouch
 - stylus/pen/flashlight/laser pointer
 - USB cable
 - 120/240 V charger with international plug adapters
 - classy box with Taoist verse

In addition, I will include 8GB SanDisk micro SDHC.

I will flash with any available distribution or original 200807
factory distro, your choice.

Everything looks and works like new.  Will ship anywhere in USA free.

Asking $350.00, will accept check, money order, or Paypal.

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Re: [Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-11-01 Thread f0rdprefect

Hi There,

Matthias Apitz wrote:
 
 
 So, one should store the PUK somehow obfuscated in the FR, for exmaple
 in a comment tag of some big HTML file from where you just grep it out
 in that moment :-)
 
 

this sparked a completely different idea. So ok the freerunner and openmoko
will become a smartphone eventually. Why not store this kind of information
in an encrypted keychain? Let it be up to the user to do so, but there could
be something like the keychain I get on e.g. ubuntu desktop. Even more one
could also automate the input of the PIN after authorizing oneself via
passphrase. If the user would fail, still the PIN could be supplied (might
be easier in emergency situations), but a passphrase may or may not be a
much better way of authorization...

So my question is, did somebody already come up with an idea like this, so I
could contribute or test? If not I would at least rephrase my  idea a bit
and search for a place in the wiki where it fits...

Cheers,

Matthias
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Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available

2008-11-01 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/11/2 Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It's not impossible because of the pause while downloading, I'd just
 make NeoTool download the file before showing the About to flash,
 Please boot to the menu message.

ok, that should work

 One problem I had was determining where to get the files, and how to
 tell when there's a new release - I'd rather not hard code addresses
 into it, so for this to work there would need to be something like:

 http://downloads.openmoko.com/releases/latest/release.jffs2
 http://downloads.openmoko.com/releases/latest/kernel.bin

 you say there is a link on the om site pointing to the 'latest'
 kernel/uboot/rootfs to download... which link are you referring to?

http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2
which has the same date stamp and size as the newest file

and so on

 Another issue I had was determining which files to download: I'd need to
 prompt to find out whether to get the GTA01 or GTA02 files.

i'm sure this can be found from the command-line, and hence a bash
script by ssh'ing into the phone before re-booting. or use a button to
do it manually, if the user doesn't want to do that


 Alternatively, I guess it would be possible to traverse
 downloads.openmoko.org and present a menu allowing the user to specify
 what to download, but I don't know how to at the moment, and this is
 basically duplicating the functionality of pointing your browser to this
 address, so it seems kind of redundant to me.

still a bit clumsy - humans are so good at making mistakes; i'm
paranoid about flashing the wrong thing and screwing my phone.

at worst, you could parse the contents of the html, find the latest
release by some text manipulation and go from there. assuming om don't
change the layout and structure
but yes, this is probably no small work, and as you say, is
duplicating the browser

 In the end I decided not to do it because I figured I'd basically be
 duplicating your browser's functionality, and that I would be better off
 devoting my efforts to more Neo-specific stuff, like adding the ability
 to backup.

sure. each has their own ideas. maybe i'm going over the top, and it's
simple enough already?

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Re: Howto remap AUX and Power Button

2008-11-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:56:45 +0100 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Am Monday 27 October 2008 17:25:37 schrieb Alexander Syring:
  Hi @ all
  I cannot find how to remap the AUX and the Powerbutton in ASU like in
  Om2007.2.
  Is that possible that the powerbutton closes a program an the AUX calls a
  menu?
 
 Unfortunately this is not possible in Om2008.x without programming. You can 
 try to adjust neod to do that on 2008.x.

actually in 2008.x you need no programming - you simply need access to the
keybindings for e. they are bound keys and configs. the bindings dialog is a
bit unusable tho on the screen/theme :)

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KDE4 on openmoko?

2008-11-01 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hello!
I've just seen this screenshot on scap.linuxtogo.org:
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a4100c3bb6a5f2c7d9789da03fc2caa3.png
How does it work? Is speed acceptable or not?
Thanks.
Leonti

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Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 just a question: How is the packaging of elightment+illume going?
 thanks (lokking forward for a usable keyboard on debian)

I use xvkbd on debian with a layout that has minimal number of buttons
so that they can be large. I can type quite accurately with only
fingernails of my thumbs. I don't really fancy a virtual keyboard
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Re: [Om2008.9] PIN PUK

2008-11-01 Thread William Kenworthy
Why bother encrypting it? - anyone who has access to the phone can
extract it anyway.  Wasted effort I think!

BillK

On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 13:59 -0700, f0rdprefect wrote:
 Hi There,
 
 Matthias Apitz wrote:
  
  
  So, one should store the PUK somehow obfuscated in the FR, for exmaple
  in a comment tag of some big HTML file from where you just grep it out
  in that moment :-)
  
  
 
 this sparked a completely different idea. So ok the freerunner and openmoko
 will become a smartphone eventually. Why not store this kind of information
 in an encrypted keychain? Let it be up to the user to do so, but there could
 be something like the keychain I get on e.g. ubuntu desktop. Even more one
 could also automate the input of the PIN after authorizing oneself via
 passphrase. If the user would fail, still the PIN could be supplied (might
 be easier in emergency situations), but a passphrase may or may not be a
 much better way of authorization...
 
 So my question is, did somebody already come up with an idea like this, so I
 could contribute or test? If not I would at least rephrase my  idea a bit
 and search for a place in the wiki where it fits...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Matthias
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Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-01 Thread Davide Scaini
nice hint!
a questions for you:
can you post your key-layout? or it's just the standard one without the
keypad?
thanks a lot!
d


On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  just a question: How is the packaging of elightment+illume going?
  thanks (lokking forward for a usable keyboard on debian)

 I use xvkbd on debian with a layout that has minimal number of buttons
 so that they can be large. I can type quite accurately with only
 fingernails of my thumbs. I don't really fancy a virtual keyboard
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Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls

2008-11-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
 something like:

 trigger: orientationchange()
 filters: HasAttr(orientation,facedown)

 could be used to set 'donotdisturb', then filter Not(HasAttr) to
 restore.  For my personal use, I'd set it up to always lock the touchscreen
 if vertically inverted.  (when not in use, my FR is in my pocket, %100 of
 the time it's inverted, and I'm tired of finding launched apps, zhone
 trying to dial, zhone GPS open, etc)

That would indeed be good.  It could also be used to make a trivial
`accel-rotate' (tho after having tried it, I don't think I'd like this
feature, personally).


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Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls

2008-11-01 Thread Previdi Roberto
well, then i think that when it's time to include the gesturesd it will be a
trivial thing to expose some lower level gesture signals like orientation
changed or similar. Joel Newkirk's ideas of an in motion signal (or
property) it's interesting, it would allow for example to have some
information to interpolate with the gps signals for calibration or finer
grain movement detection

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:13:25 schrieb Previdi Roberto:
  Is there a plan to access also the accelerometers through dbus?

 Yes, and no. frameworkd wants to integrate Paul V. Borza's excellent
 gesturesd


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