Re: KDE4 on openmoko?
Leonti Bielski ha scritto: > Hello! > I've just seen this screenshot on scap.linuxtogo.org: > http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a4100c3bb6a5f2c7d9789da03fc2caa3.png > How does it work? Is speed acceptable or not? > Thanks. > Leonti > No speed is not acceptable, is fun to show your FR to your linux friend saying "hey i've got kde4 on my phone!!" but if they ask you to open the menu or to start something, the magic is gone. It tooks about 6-7 mins to start kde and don't try to do anything at all if you don't want to wait for a long long time :D Just my opinion Pietro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
well, then i think that when it's time to include the gesturesd it will be a trivial thing to expose some lower level gesture signals like "orientation changed" or similar. Joel Newkirk's ideas of an "in motion" signal (or property) it's interesting, it would allow for example to have some information to interpolate with the gps signals for calibration or finer grain movement detection On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:13:25 schrieb Previdi Roberto: > > Is there a plan to access also the accelerometers through dbus? > > Yes, and no. frameworkd wants to integrate Paul V. Borza's excellent > gesturesd > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
> something like: > trigger: orientationchange() > filters: HasAttr(orientation,"facedown") > could be used to set 'donotdisturb', then filter Not(HasAttr) to > restore. For my personal use, I'd set it up to always lock the touchscreen > if vertically inverted. (when not in use, my FR is in my pocket, %100 of > the time it's inverted, and I'm tired of finding launched apps, zhone > trying to dial, zhone GPS open, etc) That would indeed be good. It could also be used to make a trivial `accel-rotate' (tho after having tried it, I don't think I'd like this feature, personally). Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging
nice hint! a questions for you: can you post your key-layout? or it's just the standard one without the keypad? thanks a lot! d On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > "Davide Scaini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > just a question: How is the packaging of elightment+illume going? > > thanks (lokking forward for a usable keyboard on debian) > > I use xvkbd on debian with a layout that has minimal number of buttons > so that they can be large. I can type quite accurately with only > fingernails of my thumbs. I don't really fancy a virtual keyboard > application that only works with one window manager. > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] PIN && PUK
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:24 +0100, Pander wrote: > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 02:44:15PM +0100, Pander escribió: > > > >> Here is the rest of the PIN, PUK and IMEI use cases: > >> http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6567.html > > > > This matches with the strings one can see in 'qpe': > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/Qtopia/bin# strings qpe | fgrep '04' > > \*\*04\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)# > > \*\*042\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)# > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/Qtopia/bin# strings qpe | fgrep '05' > > \*\*05\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)# > > \*\*052\*([0-9]*\*[0-9]*\*[0-9]*)# > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/Qtopia/bin# strings qpe | fgrep '06' > > *#06# > > Can the dialer get an extra menu to offer this functionality, not a lot > of people will be keep on learning these codes by heart. Bug report? > > > btw: When one dial in the 'dialer' *#06# where the resulting IMEI will > > be displayed? > > QtExtended pops up a dialogue with the IMEI code but disappears > automatically almost immediately. Can anyone test this on OM en FDOM? > Bug report? > Just run "logread" in a terminal after running the command - its plainly visible in the GSM modem messages - you can cut&paste from there :) BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] PIN && PUK
Why bother encrypting it? - anyone who has access to the phone can extract it anyway. Wasted effort I think! BillK On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 13:59 -0700, f0rdprefect wrote: > Hi There, > > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > > > So, one should store the PUK somehow obfuscated in the FR, for exmaple > > in a comment tag of some big HTML file from where you just grep it out > > in that moment :-) > > > > > > this sparked a completely different idea. So ok the freerunner and openmoko > will become a smartphone eventually. Why not store this kind of information > in an encrypted keychain? Let it be up to the user to do so, but there could > be something like the keychain I get on e.g. ubuntu desktop. Even more one > could also automate the input of the PIN after authorizing oneself via > passphrase. If the user would fail, still the PIN could be supplied (might > be easier in emergency situations), but a passphrase may or may not be a > much better way of authorization... > > So my question is, did somebody already come up with an idea like this, so I > could contribute or test? If not I would at least rephrase my idea a bit > and search for a place in the wiki where it fits... > > Cheers, > > Matthias -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging
"Davide Scaini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > just a question: How is the packaging of elightment+illume going? > thanks (lokking forward for a usable keyboard on debian) I use xvkbd on debian with a layout that has minimal number of buttons so that they can be large. I can type quite accurately with only fingernails of my thumbs. I don't really fancy a virtual keyboard application that only works with one window manager. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
KDE4 on openmoko?
Hello! I've just seen this screenshot on scap.linuxtogo.org: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a4100c3bb6a5f2c7d9789da03fc2caa3.png How does it work? Is speed acceptable or not? Thanks. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Howto remap AUX and Power Button
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:56:45 +0100 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Am Monday 27 October 2008 17:25:37 schrieb Alexander Syring: > > Hi @ all > > I cannot find how to remap the AUX and the Powerbutton in ASU like in > > Om2007.2. > > Is that possible that the powerbutton closes a program an the AUX calls a > > menu? > > Unfortunately this is not possible in Om2008.x without programming. You can > try to adjust neod to do that on 2008.x. actually in 2008.x you need no programming - you simply need access to the keybindings for e. they are bound keys and configs. the bindings dialog is a bit unusable tho on the screen/theme :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available
2008/11/2 Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It's not impossible because of the pause while downloading, I'd just > make NeoTool download the file before showing the "About to flash, > Please boot to the menu" message. ok, that should work > One problem I had was determining where to get the files, and how to > tell when there's a new release - I'd rather not hard code addresses > into it, so for this to work there would need to be something like: > > http://downloads.openmoko.com/releases/latest/release.jffs2 > http://downloads.openmoko.com/releases/latest/kernel.bin > > you say "there is a link on the om site pointing to the 'latest' > kernel/uboot/rootfs to download"... which link are you referring to? http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/Om2008.9.rootfs.jffs2 which has the same date stamp and size as the newest file and so on > Another issue I had was determining which files to download: I'd need to > prompt to find out whether to get the GTA01 or GTA02 files. i'm sure this can be found from the command-line, and hence a bash script by ssh'ing into the phone before re-booting. or use a button to do it manually, if the user doesn't want to do that > Alternatively, I guess it would be possible to traverse > downloads.openmoko.org and present a menu allowing the user to specify > what to download, but I don't know how to at the moment, and this is > basically duplicating the functionality of pointing your browser to this > address, so it seems kind of redundant to me. still a bit clumsy - humans are so good at making mistakes; i'm paranoid about flashing the wrong thing and screwing my phone. at worst, you could parse the contents of the html, find the latest release by some text manipulation and go from there. assuming om don't change the layout and structure but yes, this is probably no small work, and as you say, is duplicating the browser > In the end I decided not to do it because I figured I'd basically be > duplicating your browser's functionality, and that I would be better off > devoting my efforts to more Neo-specific stuff, like adding the ability > to backup. sure. each has their own ideas. maybe i'm going over the top, and it's simple enough already? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] PIN && PUK
Hi There, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > So, one should store the PUK somehow obfuscated in the FR, for exmaple > in a comment tag of some big HTML file from where you just grep it out > in that moment :-) > > this sparked a completely different idea. So ok the freerunner and openmoko will become a smartphone eventually. Why not store this kind of information in an encrypted keychain? Let it be up to the user to do so, but there could be something like the keychain I get on e.g. ubuntu desktop. Even more one could also automate the input of the PIN after authorizing oneself via passphrase. If the user would fail, still the PIN could be supplied (might be easier in emergency situations), but a passphrase may or may not be a much better way of authorization... So my question is, did somebody already come up with an idea like this, so I could contribute or test? If not I would at least rephrase my idea a bit and search for a place in the wiki where it fits... Cheers, Matthias -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Om2008.9--PINPUK-tp1402475p1443294.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend/Resume question
Am Saturday 01 November 2008 18:09:13 schrieb Nicola Mfb: > 2008/11/1 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 2008/11/2 Nicola Mfb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > How to determine the event/device (alarm/incoming call/sms/power button > > > etc.) that resumed a suspended Freerunner? > > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#Resume_Reason > > Great! > I was searching without success for a general way to achieve this on others > platform too. > This is enough for me to ignore the next power button event if freerunner > resume from the power button itself. With a recent kernel, you no longer need to do this. The kernel now masks this button event if it was used to wakeup the device. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Re: Determine Distro?
Charles Pax wrote: > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > >> Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner >> from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool >> to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to >> determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed. >> >> > > Have you considered writing a plugin for Conduit [1]? It can synchronize > across a network two evolution data servers, so Conduit + USB networking > could make for a nice solution. > > -Charles Pax > > [1] http://www.conduit-project.org/ > I'm still learning bash, so no, I haven't considered that! I just want to automate using the existing tools to import and export vcf files... -D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:21:42 +0100, "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:13:25 schrieb Previdi Roberto: >> Is there a plan to access also the accelerometers through dbus? > > Yes, and no. frameworkd wants to integrate Paul V. Borza's excellent > gesturesd > to serve accellerometer gestures over dbus -- that's on our task list, > however we didn't have a chance to start with that yet, since there are > other, more pressuring things. We don't want to add an API that simply > covers > the sysfs files, since this would not add value and consume lots of power. > > -- > :M: Any plans on exposing 'orientation', with a change signal? Six basic orientations, possibly a flag to note if the orientation appears to be changing 'now' (IE rotation seems to be taking place but not yet reached threshold to consider a new orientation), another for 'in motion' (IE, if sum of vectors is ~1g then figure orientation, if sum is <>g by at least 10% or some such factor then consider it 'in motion' and do NOT consider orientation changed), and a signal emitted to subscribers when the orientation has clearly changed. something like: trigger: orientationchange() filters: HasAttr(orientation,"facedown") could be used to set 'donotdisturb', then filter Not(HasAttr) to restore. For my personal use, I'd set it up to always lock the touchscreen if vertically inverted. (when not in use, my FR is in my pocket, %100 of the time it's inverted, and I'm tired of finding launched apps, zhone trying to dial, zhone GPS open, etc) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: "direct" SMS sending?
Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 18:50:45 schrieb rhn: > Hi > I've came up with an idea which might be completely useless or very > convenient, but I don't know enough about GSM to be able to judge it > properly. As far as I know, the SMS messages are sent to a "message center" > number (which can be edited by the user on some devices) provided by the > operator using some lossless data transfer method. Would it be possible > pass the number of another device and send messages directly? No. > The whole idea was based on the fact that a voice connection over the time > of sending a message costs less than sending a message to a different > operator (at least around here). I don't know how would they charge for > that kind of connections, though. You can use a GSM data call, but chances are this will be even more expensive than sending an SMS. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fso-control
Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 13:22:05 schrieb Tilman Baumann: > Nice > > This adds some long missing featues. > > Some way to invoke the illume lock thing as it did in early previews > with the aux button would be great. Regarding the lock button... ;) > > Invoking it via power button does not work tough. I still get the wired > 'keep pressed, let go, ...' dialog which seems like a nice idea but does > not work well and i don't get the concept... It's obsolete now anyways since we no longer need to hold the power button. Instead, a short press will trigger suspend. Will rip the window out before ms4 (due very soon). -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some debian questions
Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 04:21:01 schrieb Guillaume Chereau: > > You can already add new rules using the dbus call : > > org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) > > > > the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules > > file. > > > > For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using > > 'name' attribute in the rules file.) > > I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and > > remove rules. > > Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py > in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules. Hi Charlie, I have just added a skeleton for org.freesmartphone.Events in the specs repository, please fill it with some docs when you have a chance. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:13:25 schrieb Previdi Roberto: > Is there a plan to access also the accelerometers through dbus? Yes, and no. frameworkd wants to integrate Paul V. Borza's excellent gesturesd to serve accellerometer gestures over dbus -- that's on our task list, however we didn't have a chance to start with that yet, since there are other, more pressuring things. We don't want to add an API that simply covers the sysfs files, since this would not add value and consume lots of power. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg.org and neo1973-germany.de
Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 08:18:04 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: > I see that some great software has been done in Germany. Would it be > possible to add these to opkg.org to get bigger audience and user > base? Sounds cool. Seems most of the software on neo1973-germany.de is in limbo though :/ -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debugging frameworkd and ogpsd
Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 06:28:38 schrieb Angus Ainslie: > I'm try to figure out why ogpsd is failing to start, The ERROR below gets > truncated so I can't see where the traceback leads. Is there some way to > start only ogpsd from the command line so I can see the full error frameworkd --help will tell you > or can > the traceback be dumped to a file ? you can edit /etc/frameworkd.conf to do that. See here for a documented conf file example: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf;h=e396e96189aa98a552d2b692ea829f949df0a6d0;hb=6f7db0edde1849741f2edd162467f7e61fd2fbf0 -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Howto remap AUX and Power Button
Am Monday 27 October 2008 17:25:37 schrieb Alexander Syring: > Hi @ all > I cannot find how to remap the AUX and the Powerbutton in ASU like in > Om2007.2. > Is that possible that the powerbutton closes a program an the AUX calls a > menu? Unfortunately this is not possible in Om2008.x without programming. You can try to adjust neod to do that on 2008.x. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging
Hi all, just a question: How is the packaging of elightment+illume going? thanks (lokking forward for a usable keyboard on debian) d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend/Resume question
2008/11/1 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/11/2 Nicola Mfb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > How to determine the event/device (alarm/incoming call/sms/power button > > etc.) that resumed a suspended Freerunner? > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#Resume_Reason Great! I was searching without success for a general way to achieve this on others platform too. This is enough for me to ignore the next power button event if freerunner resume from the power button itself. Thank you very much! Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Determine Distro?
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner > from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool > to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to > determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed. > Have you considered writing a plugin for Conduit [1]? It can synchronize across a network two evolution data servers, so Conduit + USB networking could make for a nice solution. -Charles Pax [1] http://www.conduit-project.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available
> nice work! > Thanks > could i make a feature request? as there is a link on the om site > pointing to the 'latest' kernel/uboot/rootfs to download, could > neotool be developed further, to download it and then flash it all in > one step? > > or is this impossible because a long pause (while the file's being > downloaded) at the uboot screen will cause the neo to carry on > booting? or is there a way round this, i.e. telling the neo to wait > for an indefinite amount of time, or tricking it into thinking > something is happening while the file downloads? > I've had this thought, too - it has occurred to me that a 'download latest release' option would be cool... It's not impossible because of the pause while downloading, I'd just make NeoTool download the file before showing the "About to flash, Please boot to the menu" message. There are a few problems, though: One problem I had was determining where to get the files, and how to tell when there's a new release - I'd rather not hard code addresses into it, so for this to work there would need to be something like: http://downloads.openmoko.com/releases/latest/release.jffs2 http://downloads.openmoko.com/releases/latest/kernel.bin you say "there is a link on the om site pointing to the 'latest' kernel/uboot/rootfs to download"... which link are you referring to? Another issue I had was determining which files to download: I'd need to prompt to find out whether to get the GTA01 or GTA02 files. Alternatively, I guess it would be possible to traverse downloads.openmoko.org and present a menu allowing the user to specify what to download, but I don't know how to at the moment, and this is basically duplicating the functionality of pointing your browser to this address, so it seems kind of redundant to me. In the end I decided not to do it because I figured I'd basically be duplicating your browser's functionality, and that I would be better off devoting my efforts to more Neo-specific stuff, like adding the ability to backup. If anybody has any other Ideas on how I might go about implementing this, I'd love to hear them. -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Control - New Project and Initial Package
Am Friday 31 October 2008 02:35:01 schrieb digger vermont: > Hey, > > Here's a package for fso-control. A finger-friendly Edje GUI to control > your phone with frameworkd. Amazing! Do you have a screenshot? -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suspend/Resume question
2008/11/2 Nicola Mfb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How to determine the event/device (alarm/incoming call/sms/power button > etc.) that resumed a suspended Freerunner? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#Resume_Reason ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Determine Distro?
El día Saturday, November 01, 2008 a las 02:55:42PM +, Tim Churchard
escribió:
> Dale Maggee wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner
> > from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool
> > to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to
> > determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.
> >
> > I was thinking that one thing I could do would be 'which addressbook' to
> > find Qtopia / 2008.x, but does anybody have a better suggestion?
> >
> >
> cat /etc/om-version will tell you which branch of code you're running
> (eg org.openmoko.asu.stable {200?.? & FDOM} or fso / shr - qtopia
> probably also has one of these?
I do run Om2008.9, but it does not show up as this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/om-version
Tag Name:
VERSION: 21895bf33f04f36292eec686438b55a514cb715d
Branch: org.openmoko.asu.stable
Build Host: barbie
Time Stamp: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:25:15 +0800
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Re: Determine Distro?
Tim Churchard wrote:
> Dale Maggee wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner
>> from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool
>> to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to
>> determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.
>>
>> I was thinking that one thing I could do would be 'which addressbook' to
>> find Qtopia / 2008.x, but does anybody have a better suggestion?
>>
>>
>>
> cat /etc/om-version will tell you which branch of code you're running
> (eg org.openmoko.asu.stable {200?.? & FDOM} or fso / shr - qtopia
> probably also has one of these?
>
>
thanks, but there's no /etc/om-version in 2007.2...
-Dale
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Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available
2008/10/31 Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just a quick note to announce a new version of NeoTool. > nice work! could i make a feature request? as there is a link on the om site pointing to the 'latest' kernel/uboot/rootfs to download, could neotool be developed further, to download it and then flash it all in one step? or is this impossible because a long pause (while the file's being downloaded) at the uboot screen will cause the neo to carry on booting? or is there a way round this, i.e. telling the neo to wait for an indefinite amount of time, or tricking it into thinking something is happening while the file downloads? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to change hardware, usbkeyboard layout?
Morten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ah! Where would the config files for keyboard layout be for the xglamo then? Afaik xglamo does not do configuration files. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to change hardware, usbkeyboard layout?
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > Morten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Well, i've been searching quite thorough but haven't found anything. The >> most logical thing for me would be to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it >> issn't there :S > > Maybe you are running xglamo instead of xorg? Can you try with xorg first? > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > Ah! Where would the config files for keyboard layout be for the xglamo then? Untill i find a good solution, I've found a preliminary one: I use xmodmap to change to a hardcoded layout. It's wery dirty, and not a good solution, but it's the best I've got. I've also got another question. Sometimes, after a suspend, the keyboard will not work. I've viewed dmesg, and it seems like if it prints: "power_supply bat: driver failed to report" the keyboard will not be detected. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/How-to-change-hardware%2C-usbkeyboard-layout--tp1365764p1442256.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Determine Distro?
Dale Maggee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner
> from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool
> to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to
> determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed.
>
> I was thinking that one thing I could do would be 'which addressbook' to
> find Qtopia / 2008.x, but does anybody have a better suggestion?
>
>
cat /etc/om-version will tell you which branch of code you're running
(eg org.openmoko.asu.stable {200?.? & FDOM} or fso / shr - qtopia
probably also has one of these?
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Re: running om2008 as normal user
"arne anka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I have been using debian so that all X apps run as normal user for >> almost a month now. > > with everything? suspend, gps, wlan, you name it? Yes except that wlan use is bit problematic because of http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1597 that I hit all the time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to change hardware, usbkeyboard layout?
Morten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, i've been searching quite thorough but haven't found anything. The > most logical thing for me would be to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it > issn't there :S Maybe you are running xglamo instead of xorg? Can you try with xorg first? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Determine Distro?
Hi, Does anyone know a way to determine which distro I have on my freerunner from the command line? I'm looking into adding the ability for NeoTool to import and export contacts, but to do that I'd need a way to determine whether the user has 2007.2, Qtopia, 2008.x, or FSO installed. I was thinking that one thing I could do would be 'which addressbook' to find Qtopia / 2008.x, but does anybody have a better suggestion? Regards, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available
> Thanks for Neotool! > You're welcome! :) > Found a typo: Neotool Configurification (instead of Configuration) > And menu item 'setup neotool' takes to 'neotool configuration', a > consistency in the names would make it easier to use. > Are you sure that it's inconsistent? I just had a look and I don't see "configuration" anywhere, I believe it's pretty consistently called "configurification". Are you using the new v1.2? It could be that I had "configuration" in there somewhere, spotted and changed it, but didn't include it in the changelog. This is not a typo, it's a word I invented ages back and quite like... ;) > Could you add 'backup home folder' option there as well, maybe even > 'Backup µSD card'? I know it's slow but some users might find it > useful to backup some scripts they've created. I might also have > understood this wrong that backing up rootfs does this (but the files > are not easily accessible?) > "Backup home" Is actually already on my todo list, as it's something I've wanted to do, so yes, I definitely will add that, once I get the time. Backup MicroSD is a great suggestion, too, I'll put it on the todo list as well. > I also noticed that (Kubuntu intrepid, kde4) for some reason always > when I click a button on NeoTool the new view is opened behind another > open window. > That's odd, and to be honest I have absolutely no idea why it's happening - I'd guess that it's an issue with either zenity or kde4, or a combination of both, but I really don't know about that one! All I can really say is "that's not supposed to be happening" and "it doesn't do that for me!" (Fedora, gnome). Anybody who has a suggestion is welcome to add their $0.02! > > Great tool, thanks! > Ooooh, praise! You're very welcome! :) -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touchscreen scratch protection
Pander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a > few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative like > http://www.zagg.com/ Call me paranoid but I bought both invisible shield(tm) and also keep the phone inside a leather case with a transparent window: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/leather_case1.jpg There is some dust below the invisible shield but I'm bit afraid to remove it. I use the extra case mostly since I can attach it to my belt, it protects the phone from all sides and it makes it easy to remove fingerprint from the screen (I don't use a stylus). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Suspend/Resume question
Hi! How to determine the event/device (alarm/incoming call/sms/power button etc.) that resumed a suspended Freerunner? Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm and freerunner
Guglielmo Dapavo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Looks like the gsm chip on the freerunner stopped working, I cannot
> register anymore to the network, tried resetting to the latest kernel
> and rootfs from 2008.9 and tested several sim cards but I cannot get a
> network registration anymore, what should I do to confirm it is an
> hardware problem?
Make a call manually:
echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
alsactl restore -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state
socat - file:/dev/ttySAC0,crtscts,crnl,b115200
ATE1
AT+CFUN=1
AT+CPIN="${pincode}"
AT+CPIN?
AT+COPS
AT+COPS?
ATD${test_number}
ATH
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Re: [debian/zhone] Start up customization
"Neil Jerram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In case anyone else wants to use it, my .xsession is now: Just for the record my .xsession (with gdm autologin) is now: #!/bin/sh . ~/.bashrc export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so setxkbmap fi xmodmap -e "keycode 191 = ISO_Level3_Shift" xset s 20 10 xrdb ~/.Xdefaults #xterm & #sleep 1 #zhone & #matchbox-keyboard-toggle & if [ ! -e /tmp/bootup.stamp ]; then touch /tmp/bootup.stamp ~/.bootuprc & fi #exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar no exec icewm-session ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC
"Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I want to write small app on my PC using neo1973's GSM modem. I'd like > to somehow forward /dev/ttySAC0 and have serial device in my Linux' > /dev and connect to it as to ordinary serial port. > I have debian installed so I have an access to plenty of packages. 1) sudo apt-get install ser2net 2) edit /etc/ser2net.conf to include 2000:raw:600:/dev/ttySAC0:38400 8DATABITS NONE 1STOPBIT 3) socat TCP4:192.168.0.202:2000 PIPE:gsm.pipe would at least give you "gsm.pipe" that allows you to read and write to GSM. If you really need a tty with all the odd ioctls then it's bit more challenging and you probably want to use "fusd-kor-source - Source for the fusd kernel module" to build a serial port redirector. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NeoTool - v1.2 available
Thanks for Neotool! Found a typo: Neotool Configurification (instead of Configuration) And menu item 'setup neotool' takes to 'neotool configuration', a consistency in the names would make it easier to use. Could you add 'backup home folder' option there as well, maybe even 'Backup µSD card'? I know it's slow but some users might find it useful to backup some scripts they've created. I might also have understood this wrong that backing up rootfs does this (but the files are not easily accessible?) I also noticed that (Kubuntu intrepid, kde4) for some reason always when I click a button on NeoTool the new view is opened behind another open window. Great tool, thanks! -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status update from optimization team
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Re: Receiving empty sms after registration
>> I receive an empty sms each time I register with my phone provider >> (Bouygues in France, Simio in Spain), with an origin address like "_@". >> >> Has anybody got the same behavior? >> Is it coming from the phone or from the provider? >> > > I think that is a message from your operator to say that you have a new > voicemail message. > > When the phone gets that message it should give you a "new voicemail" popup > or > other indicator instead of putting the message in your SMS inbox. > > Could you phone your voicemail mailbox to see if this is the case? > And do you have the option to test this with another phone? Paul -- Education is what survives when what has been learnt has been forgotten. -B. F. Skinner http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Receiving empty sms after registration
On Friday 31 October 2008 12:03:33 Alexandre Girard wrote: > Hi, > > I receive an empty sms each time I register with my phone provider > (Bouygues in France, Simio in Spain), with an origin address like "_@". > > Has anybody got the same behavior? > Is it coming from the phone or from the provider? I think that is a message from your operator to say that you have a new voicemail message. When the phone gets that message it should give you a "new voicemail" popup or other indicator instead of putting the message in your SMS inbox. Could you phone your voicemail mailbox to see if this is the case? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no icons in 2008.testing
Thanks for the update John! Now I have icons again - it works with the asu theme, but with the illume default theme enlightenment keeps crashing - oh well :) Also, the settings app doesn't start at all. Still this is a great improvement! - Gunnar John Lee wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 02:51:01PM +0100, Benedikt Schindler wrote: >> hi, >> >> this ticket (http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2082) said that the >> "no icons bug" is fixed since 4 days. >> But there isn't an update in the unstable or testing tree. (they are >> still "svnr36882". ) > > the way to fix this bug is not updating to another svn rev which might > introduce other unexpected behaviors due to the massive changes in EFL > recently. instead we stick to this 36882 and fix problems there. > > I don't think we will upgrade efl rev before we have another efl > snapshot/release. following some random rev in svn trunk tree is > proved to be a very very bad idea. > > the current stuffs in testing repo works for me and our testing team > and also for other engineers. so I bet there's something wrong in the > upgrade path or your theme/config combination. > > the only supported combination is > > illume-theme-asu + illume > > if you got stuffs like illume-config, illume-config-asu, please remove > them. illume-theme-asu comes with both config and theme files. it > does NOT include 'qwerty' button and 'wrench' config. > > I have also seen the illume default combination works: > > illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume > > notice that config and theme comes in different packages here. it > DOES include qwerty and wrench. > > the way to switch between different sets of config and theme is to set > it in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile . this is ugly and > will/should be solved in upstream soon. > > after you make sure your efl related stuff and illume related packages > are correct (check with opkg list_installed | grep illume), stop x > server, rm -rf ~/.e, start x server. > > since the next stable release will be the first one that comes > directly from a branch of om.dev, the upgrade path from stable > (i.e. om2008.9) will need a lot of testing. our beloved testing team > will help. > > > FYI: > > at the moment the 'settings' app in testing repo still got error (not > scrolling), this is a known issue. however one can still set the > suspend time. > > > - John > >> How long does it need to get into unstable / testing ? >> Because the updates in the kernel-git (stable) showing up in the >> unstable-feeds 1 day after the patch is send to the git. >> >> So should i say something if these changes are not showing up after 4 >> days in the unstbale tree or is normal and should i be quiet and wait >> for it ? :) >> >> cu >> Beni >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] [X-post] The ugly part
I can confirm the exact behaviour on my freerunner gta02, after the upgrade to 4.4.2 from 4.4.1. Nishit Dave wrote: > Well, I spoke too soon. There was some gsm buzzing even I could hear > on a call, so I switched on the speaker. Result: LOUD feedback. So I > inserted the headphones while the call was on (after apologizing to > the other party). Result: LOUD feedback from the earphones. > > I removed the earphones, reverted to the handset, but the other party > was not at all audible. So I disconnected, and dialed again, only to > realize after some attempts that gsm had stopped working. The only > workable remedy was to reboot the phone. > > I repeat that I have used the binary update for 4.4.2, which means my > original .state files (as fiddled with countless times) must be > intact, and the 'official' .state files may have a better overall > results. However, I also noticed something else: when I pick up an > incoming call on the handset, first there is an audible squeak like > feedback for half a second. > > I really wonder what is happening here. I might have to unwillingly > downgrade the FR with Qtextended from 'almost a daily phone' to 'not > at all a daily phone' if this persists. > > Oh, by the way, my interest is in seeing that the FR becomes a daily > phone for *everyone*, except for those who stubbornly refuse to admit > it was ever meant to be one. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC
"Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to write small app on my PC using neo1973's GSM modem. I'd > like to somehow forward /dev/ttySAC0 and have serial device in my > Linux' /dev and connect to it as to ordinary serial port. > I have debian installed so I have an access to plenty of packages. > > Any ideas? Thank you in advance. first thing that crosses my mind is netcat. with some clever scripting it might even be possble to do it in bash alone. (man nc) best regards ... clemens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qtextended] [X-post] The ugly part
Well, I spoke too soon. There was some gsm buzzing even I could hear on a call, so I switched on the speaker. Result: LOUD feedback. So I inserted the headphones while the call was on (after apologizing to the other party). Result: LOUD feedback from the earphones. I removed the earphones, reverted to the handset, but the other party was not at all audible. So I disconnected, and dialed again, only to realize after some attempts that gsm had stopped working. The only workable remedy was to reboot the phone. I repeat that I have used the binary update for 4.4.2, which means my original .state files (as fiddled with countless times) must be intact, and the 'official' .state files may have a better overall results. However, I also noticed something else: when I pick up an incoming call on the handset, first there is an audible squeak like feedback for half a second. I really wonder what is happening here. I might have to unwillingly downgrade the FR with Qtextended from 'almost a daily phone' to 'not at all a daily phone' if this persists. Oh, by the way, my interest is in seeing that the FR becomes a daily phone for *everyone*, except for those who stubbornly refuse to admit it was ever meant to be one. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
