Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread David Garabana Barro
El Xoves, 13 de Novembro de 2008, Chris Samuel escribió:

 I'm sure I've received calls and SMS's with my phone suspended
 with both Qtopia (4.3.3 snapshot) and QT Extended (4.4.2).

For me it's much worst

qtopia 4.3.3 lost every call I received with phone suspended. When I woke it 
up, I received a lost call sms from my operator.

qtextended 4.4.2  is funnier. I don't receive the calls, but when I wake the 
phone up, it starts to ring, no matter if the call were made 10 minutes 
before. Then I also receive a lost call sms. 
Worst part is that when you call me, you can hear call tone, not busy tone 
nor out of coberture 

I suppose it's a matter of luck. 

What is true is thar every try I made with SHR preview, simply worked. 
Suspend/resume is working also.

For me, SHR is the nearest I got to have a daily phone freerunner.

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Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.

2008-11-13 Thread Cédric Berger
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:02, Sean McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cédric Berger wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 18:17, akurpiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -  Wifi  is working  by hand:
   -  copy working  wpa_supplicant.conf  to phone
   -   login via adb shell
   -  use  commanddhcpcd eth0
   - check  and  write correct data togetprop  and  sendprop ...
   -   included web browser  not start at all
   - installed by   adb install ... news reader is working  !!

 W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: unable to resolve new-instance 134
 (Lcom/google/android/maps/GeoPoint;) in Lorg/andnav/ui/Preferences;
 W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY:  rejecting opcode 0x22 at 0x0026

 This could be that maps uses a few opcodes that I have so far found are not
 used. I'll look into it.


Thanks Sean.

- About wifi, I could not try yet by hand.
In current image there is this error when trying to activate wifi via
settings menu :

I/ActivityManager(  615): Displayed activity
com.android.settings/.wifi.WifiSettings: 997 ms
D/WifiHW  (  615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on eth0:
No such file or directory
V/WifiStateTracker(  615): Connection to supplicant lost
D/SettingsWifiEnabler(  762): Received wifi state changed from
Disabled to Enabling
D/SettingsWifiEnabler(  762): Received wifi state changed from
Enabling to Enabled
E/SettingsWifiLayer(  762): Unable to scan for networks
I/NotificationService(  615): enqueueToast pkg=com.android.settings
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
duration=1
D/WifiHW  (  615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on
/data/system/wpa_supplicant/eth0: No such file or directory
D/WifiHW  (  615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on
/data/system/wpa_supplicant/eth0: No such file or directory
E/SettingsWifiLayer(  762): Unable to scan for networks

But also, after trying that, if wifi is deactivated from settings, it
keeps logging errors (about 1 every 2 seconds) :
D/SettingsWifiEnabler(  762): Received wifi state changed from
Disabling to Disabled
I/ActivityManager(  615): Displayed activity
com.android.settings/.Settings: 966 ms
D/WifiHW  (  615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on eth0:
No such file or directory
I/ActivityManager(  615): Displayed activity
com.android.launcher/.Launcher: 1075 ms
D/WifiHW  (  615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on eth0:
No such file or directory
D/WifiHW  (  615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on eth0:
No such file or directory
D/WifiHW  (  615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on eth0:
No such file or directory
[...]



- About GSM, searching for networks does not work (but once registered
on a network it correctly does roaming automatically).
I get these logs :
E/LocationManagerService(  615): Exception in
PhoneStateListener.onCellLocationCahnged:
E/LocationManagerService(  615): java.lang.IllegalArgumentException:
key.length  31
E/LocationManagerService(  615):at
android.os.SystemProperties.get(SystemProperties.java:42)

But I can see that this is being cared for (
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/12e0903189b32e84
)

- This property length limit prevents apps using location to work.
But I tried to use Maps.apk, and I do not know if this error is
directly linked to this problem, or if I also miss something else :
I/ActivityManager(  615): Starting activity: Intent {
action=android.intent.action.MAIN
categories={android.intent.category.LAUNCHER} flags=0x1020
comp={com.google.android.apps.maps/com.google.android.maps.MapsActivity}
}
I/ActivityManager(  615): Start proc com.google.android.apps.maps for
activity com.google.android.apps.maps/com.google.android.maps.MapsActivity:
pid=775 uid=10038 gids={3003}
I/ActivityThread(  775): Publishing provider
com.google.android.maps.SuggestionProvider:
com.google.android.maps.provider.MapsSuggestionProvider
I/ActivityThread(  775): Publishing provider
com.google.android.maps.SearchHistoryProvider:
com.google.android.maps.provider.SearchHistoryProvider
W/dalvikvm(  775): Unable to resolve superclass of
Lcom/google/android/maps/MapsActivity; (159)
W/dalvikvm(  775): Link of class 'Lcom/google/android/maps/MapsActivity;' failed
D/AndroidRuntime(  775): Shutting down VM
W/dalvikvm(  775): threadid=3: thread exiting with uncaught exception
(group=0x40010e28)
E/AndroidRuntime(  775): Uncaught handler: thread main exiting due to
uncaught exception
E/AndroidRuntime(  775): java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to
instantiate activity
ComponentInfo{com.google.android.apps.maps/com.google.android.maps.MapsActivity}:
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.google.android.maps.MapsActivity
in loader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
E/AndroidRuntime(  775):at
android.app.ActivityThread.performLaunchActivity(ActivityThread.java:2068)
E/AndroidRuntime(  775):at
android.app.ActivityThread.handleLaunchActivity(ActivityThread.java:2156)
E/AndroidRuntime(  775):at
android.app.ActivityThread.access$1800(ActivityThread.java:112)
E/AndroidRuntime(  775):

Re: microSD card

2008-11-13 Thread Tony Berth
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 2008/11/13 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  is it possible to use any current microSD card (4 or 8 GB!) and
 microSDHCs
  as well? Are any hardware limitations?
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards

 i haven't seen anything recently about the microsd corruption bug -
 has that been fixed yet in standard kernels?

 does the stock debian kernel now have the fix in, or do i still need
 to replace it with one from om? and what about the kernel in 2008.9?

 thanks


just a last question, how do you guys open the microSD slot if you want to
replace the card? Looks so fragile and I'm worried not to brake it! I did
succeed 2 times up to know but is always a pain! Any good tips for that?

Thanks
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Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-13 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| I think the powersaving WSOD isn't realy the problem - it isn't
| temperature-dependent, it will always be there.
| But the other one _only_ occurs below some temperatur level.

They can reflect the same underlying issue, GPIO control of Glamo pins
that talk to the ASIC in the LCM is broken somehow / sometimes.

| That level shifter is definitely evil, if you pop the can and touch it
| with a scope probe it hard resets the Glamo, as you would expect with
| such high source impedence.  Other things seem to be able to make spikes
| on it too somehow.  But to be fair to it I never saw it make a failure
| in normal operation, only during suspend / resume time.
|
| I am creating/programm for years yC based designs and not long ago
I've seen
| some similar thing.
| The schematic worked perfect and sometimes only partly.  I thought little
| gremlins must be in there - but the result was only two resistors wich
| drives some parts to close to their specifications.

Yes as I say it is definitely evil.  But I think we can work around it
since we never see it reset in normal operation --

| In stable-tracking we work around this by always hard resetting the
| Glamo on resume ourselves on the basis there can have been an
| uncontrolled reset in the meanwhile.

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Re: microSD card

2008-11-13 Thread Alastair Johnson
Tony Berth wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 2008/11/13 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Tony Berth
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   is it possible to use any current microSD card (4 or 8 GB!) and
 microSDHCs
   as well? Are any hardware limitations?
  
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards
 
 i haven't seen anything recently about the microsd corruption bug -
 has that been fixed yet in standard kernels?
 
 does the stock debian kernel now have the fix in, or do i still need
 to replace it with one from om? and what about the kernel in 2008.9?
 
 thanks
 
 
 just a last question, how do you guys open the microSD slot if you want 
 to replace the card? Looks so fragile and I'm worried not to brake it! I 
 did succeed 2 times up to know but is always a pain! Any good tips for that?

Use Joerg's stickytape mod :-)

http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/sdcard-handle/

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Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5

2008-11-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 12.11.2008, 18:29 -0800 schrieb photonmedia:
 I really appreciate all the work and suggestions on this project. This panel
 makes a great addition to zhone and almost eliminates the need to have any
 additional panels running (such as fbpanel or gnome-panel) for normal phone
 usage.
 
 One question, is there an easy way via gui or .conf file to adjust the size
 of the panel. I have fat fingers and the icons are a bit small for me to hit
 without grabbing a stylus. If the panel was say, 40p tall then I think it
 would be a bit more accessible. Thats the size I currently have fbpanel set
 to.

check the manpage for trayer and adjust /root/.xsession (assuming you
are not running zhone-session any more).

Greetings,
Joachim
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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-11-13 Thread Margo Koppelmann
Yes, I had already read your instructions, but I thought there's some easier
way to simply enter the AT%SLEEP=2 command. But I tried your scripts now and
it seems to work. Thanks. I'm using FDOM and gsm0710muxd was already
installed.



On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Margo Koppelmann wrote:

  I'm sorry, i'm so stupid, but I don't understand what does mean I used
  AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM. How do i use it? Where do I write it?

 *assuming you're using 2008.08, 2008.09 or FDOM, and that you have
 gsm0710muxd installed and running* (this may be true by default on FDOM),
 my instructions and noddy little chat script at
 http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso may be helpful.

 if you don't have gsm0710muxd installed (and qpe configured to use it),
 these instructions will be of no use.


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Re: Wiki: Applications page

2008-11-13 Thread BrendaWang
Minh Ha Duong ??:
 Le jeudi 13 novembre 2008, BrendaWang a écrit :
   
 I would like to keep this page. People who want to find applications can
 use this page. And add any applications link here.
 

 If you are talking about /Applications, me too.

   
 Then, I would like to delete pages like following:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Games
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Audio_Applications
 

 Me too.
 Of course, we delete only AFTER all the applications listed are 
   on the main /Applications page and
   in the opkg.org database.

 So it seems we agree ?
Yes!!!

  Any different views ?

 Minh
   
No.




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Re: new Game for freerunner: xlogical

2008-11-13 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Hi All,
I just finished the recipe for Xlogical based on Aapo's patches and while we 
wait until the recipe gets merged to OE/OM, I've put a binary package online 
for you all to enjoy.
I added music, sounds and a wrapper script that rotates the screen to 
landscape. Right now the music is enabled by default, but I can disable that 
if that is unwanted behaviour.
package is here :
http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/xlogical_1.0-8-r0.1_armv4t.ipk
Let me know what you think.

grtz,
Sander


Hi, this is great. It raises my motivation to continue with xlogical.

I have some points:

a) audio
Ok, maybe I overreact when I threw all sounds away. I still suggest
that default wrapper script is:
xrandr -o 3
xlogical.bin audio.enabled=0
xrandr -o 0

b) missing hi-score file
The file /usr/local/var/xlogical/xlogical.scores is missing. (the
location is stupid, so change it too. This is some configuration time
parameter like datafolder.)
message: ERROR!  Could not open hi-score file.
(I think the whole hi-score/point system is useless and so 80's)

c) dependeries: libsdl-image-1.2-0
my package:
Depends: libsdl-1.2-0 (= 1.2.9), libsdl-image-1.2-0 (=1.2.3-r0)

your package:
Depends: libsdl-1.2-0 (= 1.2.11), libc6 (= 2.6.1),
libsdl-image-1.2-0 (= 1.2.6), libsdl-mixer-1.2-0 (= 1.2.6),
libstdc++6 (= 4.1.2), libgcc1 (= 4.1.2)

With fdom: opkg install libsdl-image-1.2-0
Package libsdl-image-1.2-0 (1.2.3-r0) installed in root is up to date.

And installing your package says:
* ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for xlogical:
 *  libsdl-image-1.2-0 (= 1.2.6) *

With -force-depends it works, so you can decrease the needed
libsdl-image version.

d) title_text_2.bmp
Image title_text_2.bmp says PRESS (ESC) TO START. You can press or
click anything to start, so here is same image without text:
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/title2_template.bmp
(maybe someone wants write something to it?)

e) title_text_4.jpg
Startup screen is 640x497, but used window is (now) stardard 640x480,
so here is resized image:
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/title_text_4_standardsize.jpg
(text are raised a little bit)



I'm planning to make some level selecting dialog (shows which levels
are passed and which are skipped). Or do we like that
levelcode/password-system?

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Julien Cassignol
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:13 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looks pretty, faster than 2008.9 (subjective), just seems nicer.  Tried
 the illume theme, and the scalable (needs setting up - defaults are not
 right for the FR)

 downside after playing with it for two hours:
PIN dialog never came up so cant register

Logs on our trac should help us to see if this is truly an issue of
SHR or frameworkd.

no usb networking - host never sees it being plugged

We never had, ever, this problem. No user has complained about that.
Could you be more specific?

no wifi

Image is shipped with mofi. Everybody who used it on our team and
users managed to connect to a WPA (it's only WPA) network.
Regarding your previous problem, mofi ships with a connect.sh script
(which we put in /etc/mofi) which does a ifconfig usb0 down. If you
try USB after wifi, as mofi disable usb, it will surely fail. Could
you please try again, USB before wifi ?

trashed the partition on my 8Gb sandisk SD card on first boot

Again: could you be more specific?

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Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-13 Thread Benedikt Bär
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 03:53 +0100, hiciu wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've packaged E for Debian. So far it works.
 Installation (clean Debian, from
 http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blob;f=install.sh):
 
 wget 
 https://hiciu.rootnode.net/freerunner/enlightenment-all-in-one_0.16.999.050_armel.deb
 dpkg -i enlightenment-all-in-one_0.16.999.050_armel.deb
 mv /root/.xsession /root/.xsession.backup
 cat  END  /root/.xsession
 #!/bin/sh
 zhone 
 enlightenment_start
 END
 echo 'export PATH=$PATH:/opt/e/bin'  /etc/profile
 echo 'export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/opt/e/lib/pkgconfig' 
 /etc/profile
 /etc/init.d/nodm restart
 
 It should be installed now in /opt/e. Alternative, you can use
 https://hiciu.rootnode.net/freerunner/enlightenment-all-in-one_0.16.999.050_armel.tar.gz.
 

Hi :)

I've tried it and so far I like it. Good job.

Two problems I've seen:

1) There are no icons for installed applications in illume
2) The battery applet makes Enlightenment go 100% CPU

Did you find any workarounds for these problems?

Thanks,
Benedikt

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Re: [FSO][M4] DOOM Running slow.

2008-11-13 Thread Stefan Fröbe
  I've noticed extremely slow performance while running Doom on FSO M4. I
 tracked it down to the accelerometer code. (I turned off accel control in
 the opendoom.cfg file and that fixed the speed issue). The code basically
 opens /dev/event3 and reads from this. Should I be approaching the
 accelerometer interface differently?? It is running horribly slow, can
 anyone else confirm this?


I noticed the same, but the solution from another thread worked here -
either execute or put into ~/.profile :

# fix doom accelerators
echo 10  /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.1/threshold
echo 10  /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold

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Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound

2008-11-13 Thread Yorick Moko
gta02 v5
sometimes echo, sometimes not, changes during call; overall MUCH
better than other distro's/alsa-statefiles
buzz is minimal

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Marc Bantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Joachim Breitner schrieb:
 Hi,

 Am Dienstag, den 11.11.2008, 19:54 +0100 schrieb Peter Mogensen:

 I just wanted to congratulate the FSO team for their new images.
 For the first time I have perfect sound over GSM. No echo, no buzz.


 same here, buzz and echo seem to be gone. Although I think the other
 side's volume is a bit low here, and vica versa – what do you think?


 GTA02: I cannot hear an echo, but there's a 1s delay. Buzz is still
 there. For my ears,
 volume seems too low.

 GTA01: Decent volume, no echo. no buzz, almost no delay.

 Marc

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[FSO] official local.conf

2008-11-13 Thread Previdi Roberto
hello, i tried for some weeks to build and install the fso-testing-image
from the fso-makefile with the procedure described in the
wikihttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO,
but i always had some problems
(
  for example
  i couldn't use the terminal
the terminal application loaded, but no shell appeared in it
  so i couldn't change the root password,
  so i couldn't log in with ssh,
  so i couldn't know why it doesn't work...
  or
  the sound card wasn't recognized by the kernel
)

I always thought that it should have gone that way, being the testing
version. but yesterday i downloaded and flashed the prebuilt image from
http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone3/ and i have got many more
functionality.

anybody can explain this difference? where are the configuration files for
the openembedded build environment (local.conf) used by the automatic
builders?

roby
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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread William Kenworthy
Looks pretty, faster than 2008.9 (subjective), just seems nicer.  Tried
the illume theme, and the scalable (needs setting up - defaults are not
right for the FR)

downside after playing with it for two hours:
PIN dialog never came up so cant register
no usb networking - host never sees it being plugged
no wifi
trashed the partition on my 8Gb sandisk SD card on first boot

reflashing 2008.9 :(

BillK


On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 00:55 +0100, David Garabana Barro wrote:
 Anyone?
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR
 
 Images:
 http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/
 
 It's pretty, seems stable, is *fast* (for me faster than FDOM and FSO M3 for 
 sure)
 
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[FSO][M4] DOOM Running slow.

2008-11-13 Thread SCarlson



 I've noticed extremely slow performance while running Doom on FSO M4. I
tracked it down to the accelerometer code. (I turned off accel control in
the opendoom.cfg file and that fixed the speed issue). The code basically
opens /dev/event3 and reads from this. Should I be approaching the
accelerometer interface differently?? It is running horribly slow, can
anyone else confirm this?

I've also noticed running from desktop on the phone is also very slow with
accel turned off as well. When running a similar startup script from ssh, it
runs full speed (accel still turned off).

Is there anything obvious here regarding the way FSO operates that could
cause this? I'd like to discover the cause and implement a solution quickly.
(Do I need to be on DBUS requesting the resources I need/want?)

Thanks,
SCarlson
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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Tilman Baumann
GSM is flaky, but I can not put my finger yet on any specific faults.

But shutdown is broken. If I shutdown from X, the screen will freeze at 
some time and shutdown seems to abort some way. I had to reset the device.
If I shutdown with X stopped, I see dozens of exquisite errors, but it 
eventually shuts down.

But all after all I'm extremely pleased with this distro. I know it is 
not done yet, but this is my favourite from now on. ;)

Enlightenment/Illume crashes from time to time, but this seems to be 
normal on every distro I had so far.

PS: gta01

PPS: Nice fit
$ df -h /
FilesystemSize  Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs   61.1M 59.8M  1.3M  98% /


David Garabana Barro wrote:
 Anyone?
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR
 
 Images:
 http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/
 
 It's pretty, seems stable, is *fast* (for me faster than FDOM and FSO M3 for 
 sure)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FSO][M4] DOOM Running slow.

2008-11-13 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
 I noticed the same, but the solution from another thread worked here - 
 either execute or put into ~/.profile :
  
 # fix doom accelerators
 echo 10  /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.1/threshold
 echo 10  /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold
  
 Stefan


Great tip ! That's why my Doom was so slow ( 
http://n2.nabble.com/forum/Permalink.jtp?root=1444789post=1453633page=y )

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Julien Cassignol
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 GSM is flaky, but I can not put my finger yet on any specific faults.

 But shutdown is broken. If I shutdown from X, the screen will freeze at
 some time and shutdown seems to abort some way. I had to reset the device.
 If I shutdown with X stopped, I see dozens of exquisite errors, but it
 eventually shuts down.

This is a known problem indeed.
We're working on the issue.

 But all after all I'm extremely pleased with this distro. I know it is
 not done yet, but this is my favourite from now on. ;)

Quite pleased to hear that :-)

 PS: gta01

This is interesting. We had issues on GTA01, could you please come and
join us on #openmok-cdevel on freenode, to give more input for us
think about?

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Leonti Bielski
Actually I have the same problem with usb networking.
I did not wrote about this before but I always had this problem.
I´m using opensuse 11 and I´ve set usb networking on hot-plug and
normally it works.
When I connect my FR with SHR nothing happens and when I´m trying to
ping my phone I get ´No route to host´ error.
But I didn´t think it´s SHR specific problem until I´ve seen that
someone else has it too.
Leonti

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek
Leonti Bielski wrote:
 Actually I have the same problem with usb networking.
 I did not wrote about this before but I always had this problem.
 I´m using opensuse 11 and I´ve set usb networking on hot-plug and
 normally it works.
 When I connect my FR with SHR nothing happens and when I´m trying to
 ping my phone I get ´No route to host´ error.
 But I didn´t think it´s SHR specific problem until I´ve seen that
 someone else has it too.

Hello.

I'm experiencing the same issue with Om2008.daily. I haven't tried SHR yet.

USB networking works with FSO m4 though. I believe it's kernel's fault.

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Thursday 13 November 2008 16:27:37 Leonti Bielski wrote:

 But I didn´t think it´s SHR specific problem until I´ve seen that
 someone else has it too.

I solved it making a /etc/init.d/networking restart from neo terminal

usb0 had no IP

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Tilman Baumann
Julien Cassignol wrote:
 PS: gta01
 
 This is interesting. We had issues on GTA01, could you please come and
 join us on #openmok-cdevel on freenode, to give more input for us
 think about?

Channel seems empty. I'm that DPThought dude there.



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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote:
 Julien Cassignol wrote:
 PS: gta01

 This is interesting. We had issues on GTA01, could you please come and
 join us on #openmok-cdevel on freenode, to give more input for us
 think about?
 
 Channel seems empty. I'm that DPThought dude there.

Doh, typo. Never mind.


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Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-13 Thread Petr Vanek
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:03:53 +
They can reflect the same underlying issue, GPIO control of Glamo pins
that talk to the ASIC in the LCM is broken somehow / sometimes.

| That level shifter is definitely evil, if you pop the can and
touch it | with a scope probe it hard resets the Glamo, as you would
expect with | such high source impedence.  Other things seem to be
able to make spikes | on it too somehow.  But to be fair to it I never
saw it make a failure | in normal operation, only during suspend /
resume time. |
| I am creating/programm for years yC based designs and not long ago
I've seen
| some similar thing.
| The schematic worked perfect and sometimes only partly.  I thought
little | gremlins must be in there - but the result was only two
resistors wich | drives some parts to close to their specifications.

Yes as I say it is definitely evil.  But I think we can work around
it since we never see it reset in normal operation --

| In stable-tracking we work around this by always hard resetting the
| Glamo on resume ourselves on the basis there can have been an
| uncontrolled reset in the meanwhile.


When i observe booting process the screen first shows the NAND (NOR)
menu, then NAN read, kernel (or instead it reads Openmoko) then goes
clear bright white (as WSOD) for a while and then kernel messages. Then
(this is the interesting part) goes blank all together and then only X
server starts and the rest. During this blank period the WSOD does not
happen and i wonder why... although perhaps this is because the screen
is probably not completely dark but stays grayish?

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Re: microSD card

2008-11-13 Thread Paul

 just a last question, how do you guys open the microSD slot if you 
 want to replace the card? Looks so fragile and I'm worried not to 
 brake it! I did succeed 2 times up to know but is always a pain! Any 
 good tips for that?

I just stick a fingernail under the latch, exactly in the middle and 
gently pull it up. Works fine so far.

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[Om2008.9] tool wmiconfig wanted

2008-11-13 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

Is there any place where I could get an installable version of
'wmiconfig' for Om2008.9 mentioned in the Wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wireless_Networking#Wake_up_from_wireless_.28wow.29
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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Julien Cassignol
 Doh, typo. Never mind.

I can't access IRC right now, my company network seems to think it's
funny not to authentify my computer.
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Illume home screen subfolders?

2008-11-13 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hello!
Now, that we have a lot of apps it´s impossible to put them all onto
Home screen in illume.
In FDOM it´s solved by some kind of GTK application - when you click
on GPS icon it shows you a new window in which you can choose an
application you want.
But it doesn´t look native.
Is something like this planned for enlightenment? For example - at the
home screen you see icons like Phone, Config, Internet, Multimedia,
etc. When you click at one of the icons you get second screen like
Home, but only with Phone application (for example) and the button
Back.
I know it´s just a cosmetic question, but right now it doesnt look
good for me if I see Alarm application close to File Manager.

Leonti

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[android] copy paste

2008-11-13 Thread Cédric Berger
Hi,
Is it possible to copy/paste in Android ?

If yes, is it possible do do it without keyboard ?

And if copy/paste is possible, this means that we could use a software
keyboard app to write text, copy it, then paste into another
application text field... or not ?

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Re: new Game for freerunner: xlogical

2008-11-13 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Thursday 13 November 2008 13:45:28 Aapo Rantalainen wrote:
 Hi All,
 I just finished the recipe for Xlogical based on Aapo's patches and while
  we wait until the recipe gets merged to OE/OM, I've put a binary package
  online for you all to enjoy. I added music, sounds and a wrapper script
  that rotates the screen to landscape. Right now the music is enabled by
  default, but I can disable that if that is unwanted behaviour. package is
  here :
 http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/xlogical_1.0-8-r0.1_armv4t.ipk
 Let me know what you think.
 
 grtz,
 Sander

 Hi, this is great. It raises my motivation to continue with xlogical.

 I have some points:

 a) audio
 Ok, maybe I overreact when I threw all sounds away. I still suggest
 that default wrapper script is:
 xrandr -o 3
 xlogical.bin audio.enabled=0
 xrandr -o 0

This would only disable the sound on freerunners, since this wrapper script is 
only installed when the device is a GTA01 or GTA02. OE can build it for many 
more devices, so it would have to be set in the 
/usr/share/xlogical/xlogical.properties (that location should probably move to 
/etc too).

There are also volume controls in the game itself, so sound can be disabled by 
the user very easily. If we would disable sound by default, ppl must tinker 
with the config file to get it enabled again, so I somewhat prefer to leave it 
enabled.

Even better would be a 'mute' checkbox, so we can save us the cpu cycles on 
audio.

 b) missing hi-score file
 The file /usr/local/var/xlogical/xlogical.scores is missing. (the
 location is stupid, so change it too. This is some configuration time
 parameter like datafolder.)
 message: ERROR!  Could not open hi-score file.
 (I think the whole hi-score/point system is useless and so 80's)

I like highscores :)

I noticed the error too though, should not be too hard to put it in a good 
location, somewhere under /var or something (/var/local?)

 c) dependeries: libsdl-image-1.2-0
 my package:
 Depends: libsdl-1.2-0 (= 1.2.9), libsdl-image-1.2-0 (=1.2.3-r0)

 your package:
 Depends: libsdl-1.2-0 (= 1.2.11), libc6 (= 2.6.1),
 libsdl-image-1.2-0 (= 1.2.6), libsdl-mixer-1.2-0 (= 1.2.6),
 libstdc++6 (= 4.1.2), libgcc1 (= 4.1.2)

 With fdom: opkg install libsdl-image-1.2-0
 Package libsdl-image-1.2-0 (1.2.3-r0) installed in root is up to date.

 And installing your package says:
 * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for xlogical:
  *  libsdl-image-1.2-0 (= 1.2.6) *

 With -force-depends it works, so you can decrease the needed
 libsdl-image version.

This is what bitbake puts in the package by default. I will try to make it 
depend on the versions you mention.

 d) title_text_2.bmp
 Image title_text_2.bmp says PRESS (ESC) TO START. You can press or
 click anything to start, so here is same image without text:
 http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/title2_template.bmp
 (maybe someone wants write something to it?)

maybe just START ?

 e) title_text_4.jpg
 Startup screen is 640x497, but used window is (now) stardard 640x480,
 so here is resized image:
 http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/title_text_4_standardsize.j
pg (text are raised a little bit)

I not sure what you mean exactly. I included your patches for the small 
screen, is this another issue?

 I'm planning to make some level selecting dialog (shows which levels
 are passed and which are skipped). Or do we like that
 levelcode/password-system?

I like your idea.

grtz,
Sander


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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek
David Garabana Barro wrote:
 On Thursday 13 November 2008 16:27:37 Leonti Bielski wrote:
 
 But I didn´t think it´s SHR specific problem until I´ve seen that
 someone else has it too.
 
 I solved it making a /etc/init.d/networking restart from neo terminal
 
 usb0 had no IP

;-) I can confirm this. I've just flashed SHR and USB networking doesn't
work unless you restart networking.

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Re: [android] copy paste

2008-11-13 Thread Sam Kuper
2008/11/13 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,
 Is it possible to copy/paste in Android ?


On my G1, some applications permit cut/copy/paste, but only - as far as I
can tell, within the app :(



 If yes, is it possible do do it without keyboard ?


The UI varies with the app. Some use the 'Menu' key to access this
functionality. Some use a long screenpress (a bit like Windows Mobile, in
case you've used that). Haven't had much time to explore this, as only got
my G1 yesterday (free upgrade from previous WinMo phone!).


 And if copy/paste is possible, this means that we could use a software
 keyboard app to write text, copy it, then paste into another
 application text field... or not ?


I don't know, but I really hope it's possible.

Sam
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Re: new Game for freerunner: xlogical

2008-11-13 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Thursday 13 November 2008 13:45:28 Aapo Rantalainen wrote:
 c) dependeries: libsdl-image-1.2-0
 my package:
 Depends: libsdl-1.2-0 (= 1.2.9), libsdl-image-1.2-0 (=1.2.3-r0)

 your package:
 Depends: libsdl-1.2-0 (= 1.2.11), libc6 (= 2.6.1),
 libsdl-image-1.2-0 (= 1.2.6), libsdl-mixer-1.2-0 (= 1.2.6),
 libstdc++6 (= 4.1.2), libgcc1 (= 4.1.2)

Hmm I cannot set a runtime dep on older versions; the dependency on older 
versions in a bitbake recipe is only used at compile time. The package it 
produces still automatically creates a dependency on the version it was 
compiled against.

This is the problem with posting binary packages. I compiled it using 
org.openembedded.dev branch, which uses a newer version of SDL than 
org.openmoko.stable

So I'm not going to fix this. if you want to create a openmoko-stable 
compatible package you can use MokoMakeFile and use the recipe from 
http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4822

grtz,
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Re: microSD card

2008-11-13 Thread Tony Berth
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  just a last question, how do you guys open the microSD slot if you
  want to replace the card? Looks so fragile and I'm worried not to
  brake it! I did succeed 2 times up to know but is always a pain! Any
  good tips for that?

 I just stick a fingernail under the latch, exactly in the middle and
 gently pull it up. Works fine so far.

 Paul

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I tried the stikytape mod by using just some paper and it does work fine!

Thanks for your help

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Re: [android] copy paste

2008-11-13 Thread Petr Vanek
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:53:52 +
Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SK)
wrote:

2008/11/13 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,
 Is it possible to copy/paste in Android ?


On my G1, some applications permit cut/copy/paste, but only - as far
as I can tell, within the app :(



 If yes, is it possible do do it without keyboard ?


The UI varies with the app. Some use the 'Menu' key to access this
functionality. Some use a long screenpress (a bit like Windows Mobile,
in case you've used that). Haven't had much time to explore this, as
only got my G1 yesterday (free upgrade from previous WinMo phone!).


 And if copy/paste is possible, this means that we could use a
 software keyboard app to write text, copy it, then paste into another
 application text field... or not ?


I don't know, but I really hope it's possible.

Sam


I could copy from say calculator into any other app. :) so it is
possible!

Petr


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Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-13 Thread Tony Berth
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:03:53 +
 They can reflect the same underlying issue, GPIO control of Glamo pins
 that talk to the ASIC in the LCM is broken somehow / sometimes.
 
 | That level shifter is definitely evil, if you pop the can and
 touch it | with a scope probe it hard resets the Glamo, as you would
 expect with | such high source impedence.  Other things seem to be
 able to make spikes | on it too somehow.  But to be fair to it I never
 saw it make a failure | in normal operation, only during suspend /
 resume time. |
 | I am creating/programm for years yC based designs and not long ago
 I've seen
 | some similar thing.
 | The schematic worked perfect and sometimes only partly.  I thought
 little | gremlins must be in there - but the result was only two
 resistors wich | drives some parts to close to their specifications.
 
 Yes as I say it is definitely evil.  But I think we can work around
 it since we never see it reset in normal operation --
 
 | In stable-tracking we work around this by always hard resetting the
 | Glamo on resume ourselves on the basis there can have been an
 | uncontrolled reset in the meanwhile.


 When i observe booting process the screen first shows the NAND (NOR)
 menu, then NAN read, kernel (or instead it reads Openmoko) then goes
 clear bright white (as WSOD) for a while and then kernel messages. Then
 (this is the interesting part) goes blank all together and then only X
 server starts and the rest. During this blank period the WSOD does not
 happen and i wonder why... although perhaps this is because the screen
 is probably not completely dark but stays grayish?

 Petr



just a general comment, when I switched to the FDOM distro (from the 2008.9)
no WSOD problems occured any more!
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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Julien Cassignol
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ;-) I can confirm this. I've just flashed SHR and USB networking doesn't
 work unless you restart networking.

This is weird and unheard of on our side. I flashed the image and had
no problem last time. Did you flash the kernel too?

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Tilman Baumann
Julien Cassignol wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 ;-) I can confirm this. I've just flashed SHR and USB networking doesn't
 work unless you restart networking.
 
 This is weird and unheard of on our side. I flashed the image and had
 no problem last time. Did you flash the kernel too?
 

I just like to report that I have no USB networking issues at all.
I have of course the right kernel and i have a gta01.


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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Thursday 13 November 2008 18:34:27 Tilman Baumann wrote:
 Julien Cassignol wrote:

 I just like to report that I have no USB networking issues at all.
 I have of course the right kernel and i have a gta01.

Mine is production gta02. I have also flashed right kernel.



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Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-13 Thread Petr Vanek




just a general comment, when I switched to the FDOM distro (from the
2008.9) no WSOD problems occured any more!


knowing that fdom is not a distro but only a set of scripts i have to
wonder... can you please post exact links to your kernel and rootfs you
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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Thursday 13 November 2008 18:34:27 Tilman Baumann wrote:

 I just like to report that I have no USB networking issues at all.
 I have of course the right kernel and i have a gta01.

I'm booting SHR from SD, just for if it matters.

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Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-13 Thread Tony Berth
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 
 
 just a general comment, when I switched to the FDOM distro (from the
 2008.9) no WSOD problems occured any more!
 

 knowing that fdom is not a distro but only a set of scripts i have to
 wonder... can you please post exact links to your kernel and rootfs you
 had flashed?

 thank you


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is not a distro? But following:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution

claims that this is a distro!

I just installed the 2008.9 kernel and the latest FDOM jffs2 as in:

http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.jffs2

I just checked and the 2008.9 is no longer available! About 2 weeks ago I
downloaded from:

http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/

a file named:

Om2008.9.uImage.bin

I think this is due to that recent license issue?

Tony
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[SHR] some questions

2008-11-13 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hi,

using the latest SHR preview release, it seems it is possible to get the
device to suspend if you're not using an older GTK app and press the
power button for some seconds. But sometimes this works, sometimes it
doesn't. Also, shouldn't the device be able to auto-suspend?
The alarm app is present (me happy) but I can't find an app to set the
clock time using a gui (I can of course use just the date and time
commands).
I'm still in the progress of 'just looking', so I don't know yet if the
device wakes up from suspend for an incoming call or sms; or if the
echo problem is there or not. But I'm liking this distro so far ...

Franky

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Re: [2008.9 , FDOM] gsm modem and suspend

2008-11-13 Thread David Samblas
Waiting for Tichy-Paroly stuff to be functional enough, I preffer FDOM
tied to OpenEmbedded more than Debian, but yes, I must agree, qpe has
enough annoys to seriously consider to move on. 

El jue, 13-11-2008 a las 08:59 +0300, Flyin_bbb8 escribió:
 i did a couple of tests in FDOM yesterday to find out what's really
 causing this problem. i changed that echo 1   blah to gsm
 power_on in qtopia89 in /etc/X11/XSession.. the results were not
 so random but sometimes didn't make sense, couldn't come to an exact
 conclusion but it seems like qtopia is behind all this. and a
 hundred other bugs is behind that QPE. it's time to move on !
 switchin to debian :) and never comin back to om200x.x unless qtopia
 gets out of there :p 
 
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Re: [FSO][M4] DOOM Running slow.

2008-11-13 Thread Fox Mulder
SCarlson wrote:
  I've noticed extremely slow performance while running Doom on FSO M4. I
 tracked it down to the accelerometer code. (I turned off accel control in
 the opendoom.cfg file and that fixed the speed issue). The code basically
 opens /dev/event3 and reads from this. Should I be approaching the
 accelerometer interface differently?? It is running horribly slow, can
 anyone else confirm this?
 
 I've also noticed running from desktop on the phone is also very slow with
 accel turned off as well. When running a similar startup script from ssh, it
 runs full speed (accel still turned off).
 
 Is there anything obvious here regarding the way FSO operates that could
 cause this? I'd like to discover the cause and implement a solution quickly.
 (Do I need to be on DBUS requesting the resources I need/want?)

Have you found the problem why doom isn't running on debian on fr?
I read people writing about it running and i still can't run doom. :(
I'm still stuck at the initial doom menu screen where nothing anymore
happens. I even installed xglamo and did resize and rotate the screen
but this didn't make any difference for the initial problem.

Ciao,
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Re: [SHR] some questions

2008-11-13 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:21:43 +0100
Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 using the latest SHR preview release, it seems it is possible to get
 the device to suspend if you're not using an older GTK app and press
 the power button for some seconds. But sometimes this works,
 sometimes it doesn't. Also, shouldn't the device be able to
 auto-suspend? The alarm app is present (me happy) but I can't find an
 app to set the clock time using a gui (I can of course use just the
 date and time commands).
 I'm still in the progress of 'just looking', so I don't know yet if
 the device wakes up from suspend for an incoming call or sms; or if
 the echo problem is there or not. But I'm liking this distro so
 far ...


ok, first test for the alarm app (device suspended):
- device wakes up from suspend
- some seconds later, the alarm app starts but no sound (I hear a
very faint clicking sound in one speaker)

second test for the alarm app (device connected to usb power):
- alarm app starts, but again no sound

Maybe I miss some sound files?

Franky

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Re: [SHR] some questions

2008-11-13 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:52:07 +0100
Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:21:43 +0100
 Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  using the latest SHR preview release, it seems it is possible to get
  the device to suspend if you're not using an older GTK app and press
  the power button for some seconds. But sometimes this works,
  sometimes it doesn't. Also, shouldn't the device be able to
  auto-suspend? The alarm app is present (me happy) but I can't find
  an app to set the clock time using a gui (I can of course use just
  the date and time commands).
  I'm still in the progress of 'just looking', so I don't know yet if
  the device wakes up from suspend for an incoming call or sms; or if
  the echo problem is there or not. But I'm liking this distro so
  far ...
 
 
 ok, first test for the alarm app (device suspended):
 - device wakes up from suspend
 - some seconds later, the alarm app starts but no sound (I hear a
 very faint clicking sound in one speaker)
 
 second test for the alarm app (device connected to usb power):
 - alarm app starts, but again no sound
 
 Maybe I miss some sound files?

Yup, that is the reason: the alarm app plays only
/usr/share/alarm/sounds/phone.wav as sound file. But this dir and
file aren't there. Copying it from somewhere else fixes it.
The button set new alarm doesn't work though, and a snooze should be
nice as well :-) And while I'm asking for features: more than one
alarm and the possibility to edit the repeat would be nice :-)
Now to get auto-suspend working ... or is that not possible yet?

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Re: [FSO][M4] DOOM Running slow.

2008-11-13 Thread SCarlson

I haven't had a chance to install Debian and test Doom yet. I can say that I
had to use special patched binary of XGlamo for the scaling of the
touchscreen to work. If the game is running, but you can do anything (i.e.
demo is running) then I would assume that the touchscreen is not reporting
valid x,y coordinates. So I would say you may be subject to bug #1244 . Not
sure if someone has patched this for debian's xglamo package.

Let me know if this helps? We can add some debug output and test on your
system if you'd like. (That way we could see for sure what reported x,y
values are being used.

Scott

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Fox Mulder (via Nabble) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 SCarlson wrote:
   I've noticed extremely slow performance while running Doom on FSO M4. I
  tracked it down to the accelerometer code. (I turned off accel control in

  the opendoom.cfg file and that fixed the speed issue). The code basically

  opens /dev/event3 and reads from this. Should I be approaching the
  accelerometer interface differently?? It is running horribly slow, can
  anyone else confirm this?
 
  I've also noticed running from desktop on the phone is also very slow
 with
  accel turned off as well. When running a similar startup script from ssh,
 it
  runs full speed (accel still turned off).
 
  Is there anything obvious here regarding the way FSO operates that could
  cause this? I'd like to discover the cause and implement a solution
 quickly.
  (Do I need to be on DBUS requesting the resources I need/want?)

 Have you found the problem why doom isn't running on debian on fr?
 I read people writing about it running and i still can't run doom. :(
 I'm still stuck at the initial doom menu screen where nothing anymore
 happens. I even installed xglamo and did resize and rotate the screen
 but this didn't make any difference for the initial problem.

 Ciao,
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Re: [SHR] some questions

2008-11-13 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:03:24 +0100
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Donnerstag, den 13.11.2008, 19:21 +0100 schrieb Franky Van
 Liedekerke:
  using the latest SHR preview release, it seems it is possible to
  get the device to suspend if you're not using an older GTK app and
  press the power button for some seconds. But sometimes this works,
  sometimes it doesn't.
 
 This is a bug that slipped in ms4. Apply the patch from
 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commitdiff;h=d68130c6c63dc97af0ef6e00c824c01c8403527f

great! I changed the input.py file, do I need to do anything else to
get it to work? Since there is a input.pyo present as well, I'm
assuming that is a compiled version? Hmmm nevermind, I removed that
input.pyo file and that seems to do it ...

   Also, shouldn't the device be able to auto-suspend?
 
 Sure. Just connect a rule to the SUSPEND notification from
 IdleNotifier with the Suspend action.

errr ... a little help? Do you mean something like this
in /etc/frameworkd.conf (taken from the example frameworkd.conf in the
git):

[odeviced.idlenotifier]
# don't read from accellerometers for GTA02
ignoreinput = 2,3
# configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0
# means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically)
idle = 10
idle_dim = 20
idle_prelock = 12
lock = 2
suspend = 30

I don't understand all the parameters, maybe adding the suspend one
is enough? Since it dims already ...

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Re: [android] copy paste

2008-11-13 Thread Petr Vanek

 I could copy from say calculator into any other app. :) so it is
 possible!

I just tried this method for pairing with my bluetooth keyboard. I can 
copy from the calculator, and paste into the bluetooth PIN dialog (you 
see the numbers briefly before they are converted to circles) but the
OK button in the dialog is never enabled :-( Will have to try with the 
debug connection some time.

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i haven't checked, but wasn't the issue more about the BT API not being
complete only with sound support? Although yes, pairing should work
anyways...

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Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-13 Thread hiciu
Hi,

 Two problems I've seen:

 1) There are no icons for installed applications in illume
 2) The battery applet makes Enlightenment go 100% CPU

 Did you find any workarounds for these problems?

Only for first problem. It is because lack of
/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu file. You can get it in 'gnome-menus'
or 'xdg-utils' and few others packages.. but none of them will works
with illume (because of submenus imo). I get mine in Raster's illume
image: 
http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/openmoko-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20081012-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
(wget it; tar xzf openmoko-*-20081012-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu). Then you should remove folder ~/.e
or run First Run Wizard to tell illume to use this file.

I didn't noticed issue with battery applet.

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Re: [FSO][M4] DOOM Running slow.

2008-11-13 Thread Fox Mulder
I think the debug output would be very helpfull. When the doom menu
appears the log says that the demo starts running but the screen never
changes. It freezes at the menu where to select new game, options and so
on. The behaviour is the same if i try it with framebuffer or xglamo and
with or without rotate/resize.

Ciao,
 Rainer

SCarlson wrote:
 I haven't had a chance to install Debian and test Doom yet. I can say that I
 had to use special patched binary of XGlamo for the scaling of the
 touchscreen to work. If the game is running, but you can do anything (i.e.
 demo is running) then I would assume that the touchscreen is not reporting
 valid x,y coordinates. So I would say you may be subject to bug #1244 . Not
 sure if someone has patched this for debian's xglamo package.
 
 Let me know if this helps? We can add some debug output and test on your
 system if you'd like. (That way we could see for sure what reported x,y
 values are being used.
 
 Scott
 
 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Fox Mulder (via Nabble) 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 SCarlson wrote:
  I've noticed extremely slow performance while running Doom on FSO M4. I
 tracked it down to the accelerometer code. (I turned off accel control in
 the opendoom.cfg file and that fixed the speed issue). The code basically
 opens /dev/event3 and reads from this. Should I be approaching the
 accelerometer interface differently?? It is running horribly slow, can
 anyone else confirm this?

 I've also noticed running from desktop on the phone is also very slow
 with
 accel turned off as well. When running a similar startup script from ssh,
 it
 runs full speed (accel still turned off).

 Is there anything obvious here regarding the way FSO operates that could
 cause this? I'd like to discover the cause and implement a solution
 quickly.
 (Do I need to be on DBUS requesting the resources I need/want?)
 Have you found the problem why doom isn't running on debian on fr?
 I read people writing about it running and i still can't run doom. :(
 I'm still stuck at the initial doom menu screen where nothing anymore
 happens. I even installed xglamo and did resize and rotate the screen
 but this didn't make any difference for the initial problem.

 Ciao,
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Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-13 Thread Steven Kurylo
 It's worth bearing in mind that Alcatel appear to own patents
 on MP3 too as they recently got US$1.5 billion in damages from
 Microsoft for infringement of them..

 http://ipgeek.blogspot.com/2007/02/you-thought-paying-sisvel-ended-your.html

The top google hit ( its over a year old) isn't always the best:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10051243-75.html

MS won the appeal on that case.

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Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-13 Thread Chris Samuel

- Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The top google hit ( its over a year old) isn't always the best:
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10051243-75.html
 
 MS won the appeal on that case.

That's pretty good news!

I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone
can know these days) such lawsuits in the first place..

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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-11-13 Thread heat



Yes, I had already read your instructions, but I thought there's some easier
way to simply enter the AT%SLEEP=2 command. But I tried your scripts now and
it seems to work. Thanks. I'm using FDOM and gsm0710muxd was already
installed.

echo -e AT%SLEEP=2  /dev/ttySAC0


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Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-13 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone
 can know these days) such lawsuits in the first place..

_All_ software risks such lawsuits.

Software patents are so over-broad, vaguely worded, impenetrably
incomprehensible to normal folk, and numerous that _no significant
work is safe._

_Of course_ we should prefer the Ogg formats - especially with
companies like Sisvel running around - but to believe they are
unassailable by patent trolls, or somehow more safe than other
software is delusional.

A well stocked portfolio of patents is no thread to a troll - they
sell no products vulnerable to injunctions.

The only threat a patent troll understands is a well funded group of
researchers and lawyers ready and willing to spend millions of dollars
and years of effort to invalidate their prized patent.

Fortunately, such things _do_ exist.  I suggest OpenMoko search for,
and solicit help from any they may find.

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Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-13 Thread Chris Samuel

- Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 _Of course_ we should prefer the Ogg formats - especially with
 companies like Sisvel running around - but to believe they are
 unassailable by patent trolls, or somehow more safe than other
 software is delusional.

That's why I said as much as anyone can know these days.

I have no illusions about submarine patents, etc..

Agree wholeheartedly on the response!

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Re: [FSO] official local.conf

2008-11-13 Thread Previdi Roberto
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Previdi Roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I always thought that it should have gone that way, being the testing
 version. but yesterday i downloaded and flashed the prebuilt image from
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone3/ and i have got many
 more functionality.


sorry, it was milestone4, not 3
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Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-13 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's why I said as much as anyone can know these days.

It just can't be repeated enough.  Many people still don't understand
cost - to the community as well as companies - of the ongoing
situation of software patents.

In fact...  if OpenMoko could make as much information available as
possible about how much this has cost them - in lost productivity,
lawyers fees, etc. - I'm sure it would help to galvanize more action
among the community.

We all know software patents are bad, but few of us feel as though we
are affected by them on a regular basis.  Show people they _are_
affected, and I think they will respond.

Who knows...  maybe you'll even sell some more phones :)

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread William Kenworthy
I've reflashed with 2008.9, but will try it again on the weekend and
send the logs etc.

wifi was my problem, I'd upgraded the security and forgot to change my
reference wpa_supplicant.conf, so I need to test again - should work as
exposure showed the networks. MofI's never worked for me and I am not a
fan of wifi gui's - you cant see whats happening and more often than not
they just cause frustration (like mofi :) - maybe I need to test that
again too.

usb networking didnt register as being plugged in on the host, but it
did start charging.

At the first boot (clean shutdown before flashing etc), the SD card
wasnt registered.  I moved it to my laptop and restored the partition
table from a handy backup and after that it was fine on a number of
reboots.  Ive also lost it a couple of times on 2008.9 which I thought
had been fixed as well, so I normally use Simon Matthews fixes (turns SD
clock on before suspend) and have not had any problems afterwards.  In
this case though, it was straight after boot - no suspend or errors
seen.  One off glitch?

With wifi up and a proper keyboard/screen I'll be able to look into it a
lot easier :)

BillK



On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 14:33 +0100, Julien Cassignol wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:13 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Looks pretty, faster than 2008.9 (subjective), just seems nicer.  Tried
  the illume theme, and the scalable (needs setting up - defaults are not
  right for the FR)
 
  downside after playing with it for two hours:
 PIN dialog never came up so cant register
 
 Logs on our trac should help us to see if this is truly an issue of
 SHR or frameworkd.
 
 no usb networking - host never sees it being plugged
 
 We never had, ever, this problem. No user has complained about that.
 Could you be more specific?
 
 no wifi
 
 Image is shipped with mofi. Everybody who used it on our team and
 users managed to connect to a WPA (it's only WPA) network.
 Regarding your previous problem, mofi ships with a connect.sh script
 (which we put in /etc/mofi) which does a ifconfig usb0 down. If you
 try USB after wifi, as mofi disable usb, it will surely fail. Could
 you please try again, USB before wifi ?
 
 trashed the partition on my 8Gb sandisk SD card on first boot
 
 Again: could you be more specific?
 
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Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?

2008-11-13 Thread FilipBE

Hi,

I was able to disable/re-enable wifi with following lines, I did however not
have the time to check the impact on battery life

# using Atheros wmiconfig command to disable wlan 
./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan disable


# To re-enable wlan:
./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan enable
# set re-association mode 0 :  do send disassoc when reassociation
./wmiconfig -i eth0 --setreassocmode 0
# now try to reconnect wlan using gui
iwlist eth0 scan 


Cheers,

 Filip.

Matthias Apitz wrote:
 
 
 Hello,
 
 While thinking in power savings: is there a way to turn completely off
 the power of the Wifi chip, like we do it with the GPS:
 
 # echo 0  /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron
 
 or with the GSM modem? Thx
 
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Re: [Om2008.9] tool wmiconfig wanted

2008-11-13 Thread FilipBE

Hi Matthias,

not sure where I originally got it, or if I'm allowed to redistribute it,
but for now you can download a copy at http://www.onkelinx.com/fr/ 

Cheers,

Filip.

Matthias Apitz wrote:
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Is there any place where I could get an installable version of
 'wmiconfig' for Om2008.9 mentioned in the Wiki:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wireless_Networking#Wake_up_from_wireless_.28wow.29
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The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-13 Thread Jacob Peterson
Sorry to drag this old, over discussed topic up again.  However, I am
concerned that if action is not taken soon then all GTA02 owners will be
left without any real chance to ever get anything in the way of OpenGL
support.  So I ask the question, what is Openmoko's position on writing an
OpenGL driver for the Glamo chip or at least aiding developers with some
form of documentation?

I have read speculation that it may be possible to do something such as
rewrite the documents to get around the NDA.  Since it seems rather clear
that SMedia has no intention to release the documents to anyone else under
NDA, it is solely up to Openmoko to write the driver or at least aid any
community members with the ability to write such a driver.

Hopefully there is something that can be done, or better yet, something is
currently being done on this.

Regards,
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Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5

2008-11-13 Thread Neil Jerram
On 11/11/2008, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  - used kill to kill the old running version


 i experienced that sometimes myself, too.
  kill seems not to be the best way. looks like some cleaning up is not done
  and the frameworkd is left in confusion.
  restart frameworkd completely and afterwards opp (i modified runlevel 2
  for things like that: kill everything fso/x related), thus doing
  init 2
  wait a few seconds for everything to go down
  init 3
  via ssh
  restarts all fancy stuff w/o much ado.

Thanks.  It does seem to be reliable when I do a full reboot,
especially if I wait a few seconds between starting zhone and starting
opp.

   Neil

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Re: [FSO] official local.conf

2008-11-13 Thread D. Gassen
I also have trouble with openmoko-terminal2. It seems that there is a  
package missing. If you run from the command line:



DISPLAY=:0 openmoko-terminal2


then you will see that it complains about:

(openmoko-terminal2:1535): Vte-WARNING **: can not run /usr/libexec/ 
gnome-pty-helper


and indeed /usr/libexec/gnome-pty-helper doesn't exist. Unfortunately,  
I don't know which package provides this.


BTW, clicking on New will emit that warning again and openmoko- 
terminal2 will quit (without further error message).


Have you tried logging in via ssh and provide no password? (press  
Enter when it asks for a password). AFAIK there is no password for  
root when you get a freshly built image.


Dirk

On 13.11.2008, at 09:00, Previdi Roberto wrote:

hello, i tried for some weeks to build and install the fso-testing- 
image from the fso-makefile with the procedure described in the  
wiki, but i always had some problems

(
  for example
  i couldn't use the terminal
the terminal application loaded, but no shell appeared in it
  so i couldn't change the root password,
  so i couldn't log in with ssh,
  so i couldn't know why it doesn't work...
  or
  the sound card wasn't recognized by the kernel
)

I always thought that it should have gone that way, being the  
testing version. but yesterday i downloaded and flashed the prebuilt  
image from http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone3/ and i  
have got many more functionality.


anybody can explain this difference? where are the configuration  
files for the openembedded build environment (local.conf) used by  
the automatic builders?


roby

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Non HID Bluetooth keyboard. Success!

2008-11-13 Thread glownan

Hi list,

I recently bought a bluetooth keyboard that is not HID (I didn't even know
there was such a think. I thought all of them used the HID protocol). Then I
read on the wiki that  http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/kbdd kbdd 
could be useful for this, but didn't find anyone saying it works.

I have tried it and it works for me, so I'll let you know what I did in case
someone else wants to use this non standard keyboards. Mine is a 
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6443 MSI bk100  (you can find it
cheap on ebay) but I think it should work with others as well, as kbdd
support several keyboards.

1. I found an ipkg package for kbdd in angstrom so I used it instead of
compiling the source.

~#opkg install
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/kbdd_0.12+svn20061019-r0.1_armv4t.ipk

2. Get the address of the keyboard 
~#hcitool scan
Scanning ...
00:0F:F6:00:D9:05   BT-FoldableKB

3. Use rfcomm to bind the keyboard
~#rfcomm bind 0 00:0F:F6:00:D9:05

4. Load uinput module
~#modprobe uinput

5. Run passkey-agent in the background
~#passkey-agent  00:0F:F6:00:D9:05 

6. Run kbdd in the background (you can specify a different type of keyboard
with the -t option, mine works well with btfoldable)
~#kbdd -p /dev/rfcomm0 -t btfoldable 

And that's all, you should be able to use your keyboard.

I also attach a small script I wrote to connect and disconnect the keyboard,
it have to be modified to suit your keyboard. An icon on the desktop to run
it is very handy, you just press the connect key of your keyboard and click
it to connect, and click it again when you want to disconnect the keyboard.

#!/bin/sh

# Change this to suit your keyboard. 
KBADDRESS=00:11:22:33:44:55
KBPIN=
KBTYPE=btfoldable
RFCOMMPORT=0

KBDDPID=`pidof kbdd`

if [ -z $KBDDPID ] ; then
modprobe uinput
rfcomm bind $RFCOMMPORT $KBADDRESS
passkey-agent $KBPIN $KBADDRESS 
kbdd -p /dev/rfcomm$RFCOMMPORT -t $KBTYPE 
else
kill $KBDDPID
PKAGENTID=`pidof passkey-agent`
if [ ! -z $PKAGENTID ] ; then
kill $PKAGENTID
fi
rfcomm release $RFCOMMPORT
rmmod uinput
fi

Hope it helps someone.

P.S. Make sure bluetooth is enabled, otherwise nothing of this is going to
work ;)



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Re: Illume home screen subfolders?

2008-11-13 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:04:36 +0100 Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hello!
 Now, that we have a lot of apps it´s impossible to put them all onto
 Home screen in illume.
 In FDOM it´s solved by some kind of GTK application - when you click
 on GPS icon it shows you a new window in which you can choose an
 application you want.
 But it doesn´t look native.
 Is something like this planned for enlightenment? For example - at the
 home screen you see icons like Phone, Config, Internet, Multimedia,
 etc. When you click at one of the icons you get second screen like
 Home, but only with Phone application (for example) and the button
 Back.
 I know it´s just a cosmetic question, but right now it doesnt look
 good for me if I see Alarm application close to File Manager.

as such the icons in illume/e are just the filemanager - but i chose to flatten
it and not make it have subfolders to keep it simple. i don't intend to work on
that as i have other plans that need to change a lot of the code structure
(desktop will move more to multiple gadgets with gadman and so on where a
launcher is just one of several gadgets).

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Re: [SHR] some questions

2008-11-13 Thread Didier Ptitjes


Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:03:24 +0100
 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Also, shouldn't the device be able to auto-suspend?
 Sure. Just connect a rule to the SUSPEND notification from
 IdleNotifier with the Suspend action.
 
 errr ... a little help? Do you mean something like this
 in /etc/frameworkd.conf (taken from the example frameworkd.conf in the
 git):

No I think he means editing the /etc/freesmartphone/oevent/rules.yaml 
file and adding a rule that looks something like :

snip

-
 trigger: DbusTrigger(system, 'org.freesmartphone.odeviced', 0, 
'org.freesmartphone.Device.IdleNotifier', 'State')
 filters: HasAttr(status, SUSPEND)
 actions: Suspend()

/snip

Please see /etc/freesmartphone/oevent/rules.yaml and freesmartphone.org 
API [1] for more informations.

Didier.

[1] 
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/index.html;hb=HEAD

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread Julien Cassignol
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:33 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've reflashed with 2008.9, but will try it again on the weekend and
 send the logs etc.

 wifi was my problem, I'd upgraded the security and forgot to change my
 reference wpa_supplicant.conf, so I need to test again - should work as
 exposure showed the networks. MofI's never worked for me and I am not a
 fan of wifi gui's - you cant see whats happening and more often than not
 they just cause frustration (like mofi :) - maybe I need to test that
 again too.

I doubt you were able to see the wifi networks through exposure, as it
needs connman and we don't ship with it (neither do we build the
version which would work with it).
Were you talking about 2008.9?

 usb networking didnt register as being plugged in on the host, but it
 did start charging.

As I said, this is weird and I would like to see some info (kernel
version, dmesg, etc...)

 At the first boot (clean shutdown before flashing etc), the SD card
 wasnt registered.  I moved it to my laptop and restored the partition
 table from a handy backup and after that it was fine on a number of
 reboots.  Ive also lost it a couple of times on 2008.9 which I thought
 had been fixed as well, so I normally use Simon Matthews fixes (turns SD
 clock on before suspend) and have not had any problems afterwards.  In
 this case though, it was straight after boot - no suspend or errors
 seen.  One off glitch?

No idea, never used the SD card here :-)

 With wifi up and a proper keyboard/screen I'll be able to look into it a
 lot easier :)

Proper keyboard/screen?

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Re: [SHR] some questions

2008-11-13 Thread Julien Cassignol
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 using the latest SHR preview release, it seems it is possible to get the
 device to suspend if you're not using an older GTK app and press the
 power button for some seconds. But sometimes this works, sometimes it
 doesn't. Also, shouldn't the device be able to auto-suspend?

If you don't disable it, and if ophonekitd didn't crash, the device
will suspend if you're not charging and if there's no active call.
Problem is, I unfortunately forgot the GPS users :-). This issue will
be considered soon, don't worry.

Regarding the suspend behavior, default on frameworkd is : short push
on power = suspend, long push = shutdown.

 The alarm app is present (me happy) but I can't find an app to set the
 clock time using a gui (I can of course use just the date and time
 commands).

Yes, this is missing :-./.

 I'm still in the progress of 'just looking', so I don't know yet if the
 device wakes up from suspend for an incoming call or sms; or if the
 echo problem is there or not. But I'm liking this distro so far ...

Echo problem comes from frameworkd, open a ticket for that on
freesmartphone.org :-)



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Re: [SHR] gsm call tests: echo is there again

2008-11-13 Thread Julien Cassignol
First of all, as SHR hasn't been released yet, could you please mail
your comments to the shr-devel mailing list?
I don't want to confuse users, here, SHR isn't released yet, it's
early work, it has to be perfected.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - it takes very long before the SIM pin dialog appears (I was already
 believing this wasn't working when all of the sudden it was there)

This is due to the length of some frameworkd loading, and to the inner
timeouts in ophonekitd. Unfortunately, it'll be hard to do better as
of now.

 - the font size of the numbers for the pin dialog are very small
 compared to the button sizes

This sometimes happen, this is a known bug, and will be addressed.

 - the contact app reacts very slow when going down/up in the list by
 dragging the slidebar down/up (not the arrows)

Felt that too. There's already a ticket open for the 'sluggish feeling.

 - the sms app has no interaction with the contact app, it would be nice
 to be able to select from the lists of contacts

This is on our TODO list.

 - when calling somebody, the bottom buttons (end, speaker and
 something else) have also very small fonts being used

Again, this sometimes happen. We're addressing the issue.

 - when calling somebody, the button speaker doesn't do anything

Yes it does :-) It's supposed to put the speaker mode, it works well here...

 Also: I don't see to which provider I'm connected, the battery icon
 doesn't show the battery percentage (like in FSO M4) and - as already
 mentioned - there seems to be no gui for date/time settings.

Date/time : no gui yet.
Battery : We're using a more recent version of illume than FSO M4 if I
recall correctly. I'll check that.
Regarding the provider, there was bug in illume GSM gadget in
correlation with frameworkd MS4 at the time we built the image. That's
why we disabled the gadget.

 Again: except for the echo issue, these are not really showstoppers,
 but usability thingies. But since the alarm app now basically works
 (except for the features I already talked about in another mail), this
 release is getting close, very close of being a hit for me!

We'll look into this issue (echo) with the FSO team!

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Re: [shr] SHR image released

2008-11-13 Thread William Kenworthy
Mine is GTA02, matching kernel and ran from flash.

Billk

On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 18:53 +0100, David Garabana Barro wrote:
 On Thursday 13 November 2008 18:34:27 Tilman Baumann wrote:
 
  I just like to report that I have no USB networking issues at all.
  I have of course the right kernel and i have a gta01.
 
 I'm booting SHR from SD, just for if it matters.
 
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Re: [FSO] official local.conf

2008-11-13 Thread Daniel Willmann
Hi,

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:03:56 -0500
D. Gassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I also have trouble with openmoko-terminal2. It seems that there is
 a package missing. If you run from the command line:
 
  DISPLAY=:0 openmoko-terminal2
 
 then you will see that it complains about:
 
  (openmoko-terminal2:1535): Vte-WARNING **: can not
  run /usr/libexec/ gnome-pty-helper
 
 and indeed /usr/libexec/gnome-pty-helper doesn't exist.
 Unfortunately, I don't know which package provides this.

Yeah, openmoko-terminal2 was broken for some time. Mickey fixed it (now
renamed to vala-terminal), but too late for milestone4 which included a
working gpe-terminal instead.

Regards,
Daniel Willmann


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For Sale: Neo Freerunner

2008-11-13 Thread shawn sullivan
Gang,

I'm selling my 850Mhz Neo Freerunner. This was part of the 10 pack that 
we bought, so it has the extra goodies. This will include:
Phone
wired headset
neoprene case
512 card
stylus
charger
usb connector for computer
Full Body Invisible Protector (currently applied to the phone)

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the phone. There is not a scratch 
on either the screen or the body. I simply don't have time to dedicate 
to it.

I'm in Colorado at 80226. I would prefer to ship this only within the 
US. I'm asking $350. Please email me off list if you are interested or 
have questions.

thanks!

. . .Shawn

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infos about packages in various distributions

2008-11-13 Thread heat

Still trying various distributions (... and still haven't find MY
DISTRIBUTION). A great help would be knowing the features of packages in
repository (the name  often doesn't help and the opkg info command too).
Any idea about it ?

Thank you.


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SHR question

2008-11-13 Thread heat


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testing image doesn't register

2008-11-13 Thread heat

just reinstalled testing image adding task-openmoko-qtopia-x11
package but it doesn't register on the GSM network ... what happened ??

Tank you
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Re: SHR question

2008-11-13 Thread heat


Wrong post. Sorry.

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