[FSO] Re: Freerunner's GSM Calypso Modem Firmware Upgrade...
Great news, I got myself a 3-mobile sim(UK) a while ago for testing the Neo, but that never worked. Now because I had another sim for my primary phone I didn't worry too much about it, but giving that upgrading firmware for a GSM modem sounded awfully cool I thought I'd give it a go (moko10b2). The instructions on the wiki worked like a charm, and I got all the output as predicted. I'm running M4 at the moment, but from memory with 2008.x and qt Extended I got something like No Sim Inserted in the past. This has now changed to Failed to read authentication status. Is this a step in the right direction, or does M4 just have more robust error notification? Regards ezuall -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freerunner%27s-GSM-Calypso-Modem-Firmware-Upgrade...-tp1515607p1518244.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
Sebastian Ohl wrote: Hi folks, you should now simply get the new version(0.5) through the debian repository(apt-get install openmoko-panel-plugin) or via http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openmoko-panel-plugin/ Changelog: -- -- regards Sebastian Ohl Hi, I really love openmoko-panel-plugin but today after an apt-get dist-upgrade it got removed somehow. When I try to install it again, here is what I get: --- # apt-get install openmoko-panel-plugin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: openmoko-panel-plugin: Depends: fso-frameworkd but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages Yet I made sure that fso-frameworkd is already installed (maybe upgraded to newer). What should I do here to get the panel back? Thanks, GJ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--openmoko-panel-plugin-0.5-tp1461846p1518261.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi GoJian, Am 19.11.2008 um 09:20 schrieb GoJian: Hi, I really love openmoko-panel-plugin but today after an apt-get dist-upgrade it got removed somehow. When I try to install it again, here is what I get: --- # apt-get install openmoko-panel-plugin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: openmoko-panel-plugin: Depends: fso-frameworkd but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages Yet I made sure that fso-frameworkd is already installed (maybe upgraded to newer). What should I do here to get the panel back? Thanks, GJ actually this is wanted behaviour since the available version of panel-pluign does not work with frameworkd ms4 yet. if you want it to run for now you have to downgrade fso-frameworkd. sebastian and i are working on this issue and a new version would be released soon ciao, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFJI87sr81gVylJyzERAuD7AKDvzntNw0krYSE5WsH79pVzyuC/5QCfR/cp SR9PyoV4A7UJmI+hJrJgdAA= =40mM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] copy paste
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 20:18, Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried this method for pairing with my bluetooth keyboard. I can copy from the calculator, and paste into the bluetooth PIN dialog (you see the numbers briefly before they are converted to circles) but the OK button in the dialog is never enabled :-( Will have to try with the debug connection some time. i haven't checked, but wasn't the issue more about the BT API not being complete only with sound support? Although yes, pairing should work anyways... I also tried with copy/paste from the calculator. The blutooth PIN dialog OK button is still disabled, but if you press power button, then it is activated But I did not manage to pair with my PC :-( Also... not easy when your PC generate a PIN number at connection time... android dialog box is already opened, so you cannot go to calculator to type these numbers ! Is there a way to switch between applications without closing them ? (like you can in Qtopia by long press on aux) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
Maybe these should appear on the splash screen of the Neos solar.george Brilliant! 1. Save either attachment somewhere 2. Use NeoTool or 'dfu-util -a splash -R -D filename' to flash the new splash to your neo 3. power down then turn on your neo 4. Laugh. :D -Dale moko_brick.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data knock_knock.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Android] Soft keyboard
i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . enjoy, walter chang -- ...__o ...\, ( )/ ( )... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:07, Walter Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . Works for me. Excellent, big thanks !!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Neo1973 DebugBoard v2 Schematics released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Harald, Today I can proudly announce that we finally were able to take a step that has long been anticipated: The public release of the schematics for our Debug Board v2. ... Oh, and yes, as soon as we start shipping DebugBoard v3, we will release those schematics without any further delay. Is there any progress in this area? :) What I'm looking for just now is the pinout for the new i2c/spi/irq header included on v3 debug boards - but can't find it (nor the schematics for v3). Regards, Vladimir -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iJwEAQECAAYFAkkj4L4ACgkQutgEj9ZLuzS0DAP/TEtNdbQeetXoN3S6Ah0mbuCY cD4uTKyBeFlx3wP/NOcZxnQPFOb7+bserCF2WivbCKNv2McmBdd92ThE819LG1xN jY9T5ziZjii8CWG5ejD37vIGfi+R25bPLnjNBtDEqa0OhpcgMgUy73KfHm44xgm+ 63/iGis48isKtSDfTB0= =tOjS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
On 18 Nov 2008, at 13:22, Nicola Mfb wrote: ... Yes! When someone asks me if it's a good idea to give a try to gentoo (my preferred distro) I point them to: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Gentoo :) From TFA: Old-school Linux users were desperate to find a new way to feel superior. Some migrated to versions of BSD, ... I recently considered Solaris, but only briefly. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
On 18 Nov 2008, at 13:01, Dale Maggee wrote: ... Q: What's the difference between an iphone and a freerunner? A: One works but takes away your freedom, the other is free but needs your work 3 3 3 Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
Hi, I really love openmoko-panel-plugin but today after an apt-get dist-upgrade it got removed somehow. if you're using debian as sole or main distribution on your fr, you should subscribe to at least smartphone-userland -- a lot of debian related communication is going on _there_ (among other the announcement of the conflict between m4 and current opp in debian). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] copy paste
still wondering: wouldn't be passkey-agent of any help? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
Thanks!! Works very well!! But is there any way to Open keyboard to compose message in messaging? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:07, Walter Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . Works for me. Excellent, big thanks !!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Anders H. Kristiansen Stud. polyt., Software Engineering, University of Aalborg, Denmark ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, November 19, 2008 a las 08:46:27AM +0530, Carl Lobo escribió: I think you need to restore the gsm*.state files only when you are on call. the ringing from speaker requires mappings from stereoout.state. Ok, I think that without deeper knowledge about the files I'm lost. Can some kindly soul sheet a bit light into this darkness? I.e. - Why there are different files? Because depending on what you are doing you want to send sound to different places, and with different levels. It is simpler to have a small set of files containing the mixer states for known situations than it is for every app to store all the mixer settings itself. - Which process is reading them, in which order and when? Anything that wants to, whenever it wants to, more or less. Essentially if an app wants to use a particular mixer state then it makes a call to set the mixer to that state. FSO has a dbus API to make this a little more orderly, and qtopia may have something similar, but this doesn't prevent an app setting things directly. Because it is up to the app to do the setting you may find that an app doesn't switch to the state you want, for example when you answer a call the phone app may switch to the gsm-handset state even though you have the headset plugged in. The Wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem speaks about 'states' like 'State: GSM - Built-in Handset (file gsmhandset.state)', but does not explain what a given 'state' is and how the transit between them happens... Thx matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Paroli] Update #3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I used the current tichy fresh from the git and adjusted the runparoli page [1]. Should you have further problems please let me know and I'll try to help and also start collecting for a FAQ or common problems while installing. Ah, btw there were some wrong references in the svn, I changed those as well, I have now the same set-up locally, sorry about that. Thanks, /mirko Well, today I've followed your RunParoli wiki to get it working in my phone. I've used SHR as base updating the FSO framework and getting tichy and paroli from upstream (respectively from svn and git). Well, after applying the changes you've suggested I wasn't able to get Paroli running but only tichy-etk... Maybe my guy.py wasn't correct (since it doesn't seem to reflect the wiki), so please could you provide a fresh explanation? Thanks... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkj8FQACgkQlgX1BiMLFShByACginAZvc7AGWk0DN7/04EZGs3q H14AnjlMXjxyDhTm7mkfFfgXrCqLOwuT =BAcc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Paroli] Update #3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 22:13 +0100, Mirko Lindner wrote: This is a version without functionality, but implementing this is not difficult and the dialer has been written to be easily adapted to actually work. The reason for this non-working is that the tichy-fso components do currently not work on the testing image and thus the phone doesn't register on a network. As soon as that is solved we'll implement the functions needed. Should be fixed on last git version of tichy. See this commit for the fix: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=tichy.git;a=commit;h=75ce9fa91083fea79e64a155ce809c0bb57b24c1 Unfortunately it still doesn't manage to request the gsm resource :( Neither command line nor gui show any changes ... /mirko -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkj8S4ACgkQlgX1BiMLFShjOgCeN8yKe5MtcxxA2+dj1uqitvAy fxMAn1/sGHrndfFScnFjAZXxGK/Q9tmM =Hq89 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)
Hi, I'm using FSO since yesterday and found that the famous echo bug was still appearing. I found a solution that is working for me based in the 2008.8 one. In file /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py, function percentCPI, line 210 aprox Where it says: info = {} I have: devchannel = self._object.modem.communicationChannel(DeviceMediator) devchannel.enqueue( %N0187 ) info = {} -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Stability-and-other-problems-tp1479821p1518706.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
Hi, I'm using FSO since yesterday and found that the famous echo bug was still appearing. I found a solution that is working for me based in the 2008.8 one. In file /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py, function percentCPI, line 210 aprox Where it says: info = {} I have: devchannel = self._object.modem.communicationChannel(DeviceMediator) devchannel.enqueue( %N0187 ) info = {} -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO-M4---nice-GSM-sound-tp1486414p1518726.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Where is startup log?
Hello! I'm using SHR. I've installed some applications, did opkg upgrade and now illume doesn't start. It loads illume (I can see very nice progress bar), but then it return to console which says something like: om-gta02 login: 31 om-gta02 tty1ered by Angstrom om-gta02 tty1 SPANK SPANK!*** Anyways, where can I get startup log files to investigate the origin of the problem? Thanks. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?
I'm using this image - http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with-SystemRingTones.jffs2- and the stable mwester kernel. There is no terminal applicatsion, I can't enter passwords in the web browser, there's strange loud sound during calls when gprs is configured and sometimes it thinks it's plugged in when it actually isn't, but otherwise it's good. It's much more stable, than 4.4.1 was. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Alishams Hassam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using qtextended with mwester's kernel as a daily phone. Using even the unstable kernel, ontop of daily phone features (making and receiving calls, txt msgs, caller id, contacts off sim) it also suspends/resumes perfect, can play mp3's with the media player (using the headphones as well), and transfer files to the SD card. Should you have any problems, you can always switch to the stable kernel. http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html is where you will find the kernels. The only issue I have had is a missing terminal shortcut when I used the binary update for 4.4.1 to 4.4.2. Since you're not doing that, it should be fine :) On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 11:22 +, Russell Hay wrote: Hi list, I know there is the 'official' QTExtended image on qtextended.org - but there have also been various discussions on the list about using mwesters kernel and some other changes/patches not reflected in the qtextended package. What's the most stable version that I can trial as a 'day to day' handset. I'll even volunteer to update the wiki with the information :-o Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?
Hi list, I know there is the 'official' QTExtended image on qtextended.org - but there have also been various discussions on the list about using mwesters kernel and some other changes/patches not reflected in the qtextended package. What's the most stable version that I can trial as a 'day to day' handset. I'll even volunteer to update the wiki with the information :-o Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
On 19 Nov 2008, at 08:46, Dale Maggee wrote: Q: What's the difference between a brick and a freerunner? A: A brick isn't designed to make phone calls. Maybe these should appear on the splash screen of the Neos Brilliant! 1. Save either attachment somewhere 2. Use NeoTool or 'dfu-util -a splash -R -D filename' to flash the new splash to your neo 3. power down then turn on your neo 4. Laugh. :D -Dale moko_brick.gz I find the idea of flashing an attachment called moko_brick somewhat ominous. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?
I have been using qtextended with mwester's kernel as a daily phone. Using even the unstable kernel, ontop of daily phone features (making and receiving calls, txt msgs, caller id, contacts off sim) it also suspends/resumes perfect, can play mp3's with the media player (using the headphones as well), and transfer files to the SD card. Should you have any problems, you can always switch to the stable kernel. http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html is where you will find the kernels. The only issue I have had is a missing terminal shortcut when I used the binary update for 4.4.1 to 4.4.2. Since you're not doing that, it should be fine :) On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 11:22 +, Russell Hay wrote: Hi list, I know there is the 'official' QTExtended image on qtextended.org - but there have also been various discussions on the list about using mwesters kernel and some other changes/patches not reflected in the qtextended package. What's the most stable version that I can trial as a 'day to day' handset. I'll even volunteer to update the wiki with the information :-o Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state
El día Tuesday, November 18, 2008 a las 06:48:23PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I'm not entirely sure this helps, but I just noticed with SHR release, the speakerphone works! Maybe you could use the configuration from there? James Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry After more tests (and thanks to some private mails with explanations) I have the puzzle now together and nearly all is there in Om2008.9 to use the speakerout too; one don't need extending the desktop to launch 'alsactl -f gsmspeakerout.state restore'; when you're in a call there is a small menue on the left buttom side called 'Options' which let you switch between 'handset' and 'speakerout'; I did some small changes in the file /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmspeakerout.state to remove the echo the called party has of his/her own voice, here are the changes in its context: control.5 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 1 comment.range '0 - 127' iface MIXER name 'Mono Playback Volume' value 104 *** was 103, but 105 gives echo again } control.48 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type INTEGER comment.count 1 comment.range '0 - 3' iface MIXER name 'Mic2 Capture Volume' value 1 *** was 0, 2-3 gives echo again } control.63 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type ENUMERATED comment.count 1 comment.item.0 'Left PGA' comment.item.1 'Mic 1' comment.item.2 'Mic 2' comment.item.3 'Right PGA' iface MIXER name 'Mic Sidetone Mux' value 'Left PGA' ** was 'Mic 2' and causing echo } With the above changes I'ld call 'speakerout' not optimal, but at least working; Maybe someone who is using SHR could send me the mentioned file to give it a test or compare it; thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Q: What's the difference between an iphone and a freerunner? A: One works but takes away your freedom, the other is free but needs your work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
Thanks for that message: it's working great! YEAH, now I can actually start calling people again ;) On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:24, superalex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using FSO since yesterday and found that the famous echo bug was still appearing. I found a solution that is working for me based in the 2008.8 one. In file /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py, function percentCPI, line 210 aprox Where it says: info = {} I have: devchannel = self._object.modem.communicationChannel(DeviceMediator) devchannel.enqueue( %N0187 ) info = {} -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FSO-M4---nice-GSM-sound-tp1486414p1518726.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?
Same here, only experienced loud sound only once. Also all my sim contacts are lost during upgrade somehow. QtExtended is not working well with updating sim contacts etc. Waiting for next release OM with next FDOM, hope this will be the biggest (packages) and most stable (kernel). On Wed, November 19, 2008 14:24, Margo Koppelmann wrote: I'm using this image - http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with-SystemRingTones.jffs2- and the stable mwester kernel. There is no terminal applicatsion, I can't enter passwords in the web browser, there's strange loud sound during calls when gprs is configured and sometimes it thinks it's plugged in when it actually isn't, but otherwise it's good. It's much more stable, than 4.4.1 was. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Alishams Hassam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using qtextended with mwester's kernel as a daily phone. Using even the unstable kernel, ontop of daily phone features (making and receiving calls, txt msgs, caller id, contacts off sim) it also suspends/resumes perfect, can play mp3's with the media player (using the headphones as well), and transfer files to the SD card. Should you have any problems, you can always switch to the stable kernel. http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html is where you will find the kernels. The only issue I have had is a missing terminal shortcut when I used the binary update for 4.4.1 to 4.4.2. Since you're not doing that, it should be fine :) On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 11:22 +, Russell Hay wrote: Hi list, I know there is the 'official' QTExtended image on qtextended.org - but there have also been various discussions on the list about using mwesters kernel and some other changes/patches not reflected in the qtextended package. What's the most stable version that I can trial as a 'day to day' handset. I'll even volunteer to update the wiki with the information :-o Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
the text field in messaging does not support cut-and-paste and there is no way i can change that :-( . on the other hand, it will be pretty simple to put together a simple (quick and dirty) sms sender app for android. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Anders Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks!! Works very well!! But is there any way to Open keyboard to compose message in messaging? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:07, Walter Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . Works for me. Excellent, big thanks !!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Anders H. Kristiansen Stud. polyt., Software Engineering, University of Aalborg, Denmark ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ...__o ...\, ( )/ ( )... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Neo1973 DebugBoard v2 Schematics released
Am Mi 19. November 2008 schrieb Vladimir Koutny: Hi Harald, Today I can proudly announce that we finally were able to take a step that has long been anticipated: The public release of the schematics for our Debug Board v2. ... Oh, and yes, as soon as we start shipping DebugBoard v3, we will release those schematics without any further delay. Is there any progress in this area? :) What I'm looking for just now is the pinout for the new i2c/spi/irq header included on v3 debug boards - but can't find it (nor the schematics for v3). I short search on our documentation server revealed this: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/debug_board/OpenMoKo_Debug_Board_V3_MP.pdf Not checked yet for correctness of schematics, or if this even is what the name suggests. Anyway HTH ;-) cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] Settings app not working
Ivar Mossin schrieb: Installing a clean testing-image and the settings app worked. [...] But my conclusion seems to be that the settings app is working (although not scrolling) using a clean testing image. However, installing a stable image, then upgrading to testing by changing the opkg repository links, the settings application breaks. Even when doing it from a clean stable image. So I guess there is a bug that has to be addressed there to avoid the package conflict or whatever it is causing the breakage. have you done a opkg update opkg upgrade with the working testing image, yet? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] Settings app not working
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 22:29:58 Ivar Mossin wrote: So... What would have been the preverred way of figuring which packages I would need to install? Is there a list somewhere on the net/wiki/anywhere else? Are there some meta-packages I could have installed instead, like 'opkg install phone-software' ? For this purpose we have meta packages (packages beginning with task-*). I believe for Qtopia on X11 it was: opkg install task-openmoko-qtopia-x11 But my conclusion seems to be that the settings app is working (although not scrolling) using a clean testing image. However, installing a stable image, then upgrading to testing by changing the opkg repository links, the settings application breaks. Even when doing it from a clean stable image. So I guess there is a bug that has to be addressed there to avoid the package conflict or whatever it is causing the breakage. Thanks for reporting this. Marek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
axfs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello there, i don't know if this topic was already a discussion, but i think, if openmoko could change to axfs, i belive, it's a great performance-step. shure, the software had already enough bugs and this isn't the most important thing. there's also enough to do, but: maybe there is someone with enough time who want to implement these fs.. http://axfs.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=10 jffs2 isn't so bad, and i don't know the failures of this system (it's a little bit new), but maybe it's stable enough. so the community know now this system, if someone like it, hack it in! :) (i've not enough time and expirience.. sorry.. :( ) greets - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJJCa3K9d7OHUJmA4RAjOUAKCHNH22jrNspp81STlxKn+G9xu/QgCgqlti sXhSUusM3Ylfgk8b5a6LnmQ= =0h6I -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state
I really don't like the fact that the state files have ALL the controls in there. Can't we eliminate the unnecessary controls inside each file? I don't see why a speakerout.state file should have microphone settings... it just adds to the confusion, and creates competition between apps. Citando Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, November 19, 2008 a las 08:46:27AM +0530, Carl Lobo escribió: I think you need to restore the gsm*.state files only when you are on call. the ringing from speaker requires mappings from stereoout.state. Ok, I think that without deeper knowledge about the files I'm lost. Can some kindly soul sheet a bit light into this darkness? I.e. - Why there are different files? Because depending on what you are doing you want to send sound to different places, and with different levels. It is simpler to have a small set of files containing the mixer states for known situations than it is for every app to store all the mixer settings itself. - Which process is reading them, in which order and when? Anything that wants to, whenever it wants to, more or less. Essentially if an app wants to use a particular mixer state then it makes a call to set the mixer to that state. FSO has a dbus API to make this a little more orderly, and qtopia may have something similar, but this doesn't prevent an app setting things directly. Because it is up to the app to do the setting you may find that an app doesn't switch to the state you want, for example when you answer a call the phone app may switch to the gsm-handset state even though you have the headset plugged in. The Wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem speaks about 'states' like 'State: GSM - Built-in Handset (file gsmhandset.state)', but does not explain what a given 'state' is and how the transit between them happens... Thx matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Neo1973 DebugBoard v2 Schematics released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Mi 19. November 2008 schrieb Vladimir Koutny: Hi Harald, Today I can proudly announce that we finally were able to take a step that has long been anticipated: The public release of the schematics for our Debug Board v2. ... Oh, and yes, as soon as we start shipping DebugBoard v3, we will release those schematics without any further delay. Is there any progress in this area? :) What I'm looking for just now is the pinout for the new i2c/spi/irq header included on v3 debug boards - but can't find it (nor the schematics for v3). I short search on our documentation server revealed this: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/debug_board/OpenMoKo_Debug_Board_V3_MP.pdf Oh, nice.. May I ask for one more thing - permissions? ;) Forbidden You don't have permission to access /joerg/schematics/debug_board/OpenMoKo_Debug_Board_V3_MP.pdf on this server. Thanks, Vladimir Not checked yet for correctness of schematics, or if this even is what the name suggests. Anyway HTH ;-) cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iJwEAQECAAYFAkkkM2IACgkQutgEj9ZLuzQbvgP/d0fS8qssN1HvVex8kpHJrbex i8SMo1cTzdWOoL4j+41Bq8HKkpcM4GtIEP/UV5rzPvnt2nZZu9gVIGVA7k8XZdkS X472yvHDb9t2+AEVYC9tzH2tIBF0LeH00YUj1fgCsSK0yV8avbxwv8dcMm2hHkBO 8kd9G1NwwbBLZ6A1MrE= =eWcX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
new application: AaTerm-terminal (patched openmoko-terminal2)
I want good terminal to my phone. I know only xterm and openmoko-terminal2 (qt might have own?). I made some improvements on openmoko-terminal2. Meanwhile upstream is thinking what to do with my pathces, I release AaTerm. It is not really fork, just patched openmoko-terminal2, but now you can install it while having openmoko-terminal installed. Instructions and package: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/aaterm/ Tell me what is missing? (It will looks cooler when 'underlying' libraries are updated. E.g I must disable all icons, because they do not fit, and use instead text-labels.) -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't like the fact that the state files have ALL the controls in there. Can't we eliminate the unnecessary controls inside each file? I don't see why a speakerout.state file should have microphone settings... it just adds to the confusion, and creates competition between apps. If the file doesn't contain all of the controls then the audio routing may not end up the way you want. To only contain some of the controls you would need to have different files depending on which state you are transitioning from as well as which state you want to transition to. This would be much worse than just having to know which state you want to transition to. Angus -- Angus Ainslie http://www.handheldshell.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
Walter Chang wrote: the text field in messaging does not support cut-and-paste and there is no way i can change that :-( . on the other hand, it will be pretty simple to put together a simple (quick and dirty) sms sender app for android. Why not patching the default one instead? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state
Vasco Névoa wrote: I really don't like the fact that the state files have ALL the controls in there. Can't we eliminate the unnecessary controls inside each file? I don't see why a speakerout.state file should have microphone settings... it just adds to the confusion, and creates competition between apps. Because the other controls are _not_ unnecessary. If you just ignore the mic settings you could end up with Mic2 enabled with high gain, routing through to the speaker and generating horrible feedback. Other unexpected weird audio routing problems will crop up, and be next to impossible to debug since it won't be clear which combination of settings applied in which order were responsible for creating the problem, let alone which app was 'responsible' for the problem. Citando Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, November 19, 2008 a las 08:46:27AM +0530, Carl Lobo escribió: I think you need to restore the gsm*.state files only when you are on call. the ringing from speaker requires mappings from stereoout.state. Ok, I think that without deeper knowledge about the files I'm lost. Can some kindly soul sheet a bit light into this darkness? I.e. - Why there are different files? Because depending on what you are doing you want to send sound to different places, and with different levels. It is simpler to have a small set of files containing the mixer states for known situations than it is for every app to store all the mixer settings itself. - Which process is reading them, in which order and when? Anything that wants to, whenever it wants to, more or less. Essentially if an app wants to use a particular mixer state then it makes a call to set the mixer to that state. FSO has a dbus API to make this a little more orderly, and qtopia may have something similar, but this doesn't prevent an app setting things directly. Because it is up to the app to do the setting you may find that an app doesn't switch to the state you want, for example when you answer a call the phone app may switch to the gsm-handset state even though you have the headset plugged in. The Wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem speaks about 'states' like 'State: GSM - Built-in Handset (file gsmhandset.state)', but does not explain what a given 'state' is and how the transit between them happens... Thx matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Neo1973 DebugBoard v2 Schematics released
Am Mi 19. November 2008 schrieb Vladimir Koutny: I short search on our documentation server revealed this: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/debug_board/OpenMoKo_Debug_Board_V3_MP.pdf Oh, nice.. May I ask for one more thing - permissions? ;) Forbidden You don't have permission to access /joerg/schematics/debug_board/OpenMoKo_Debug_Board_V3_MP.pdf on this server. ooops, sorry ~~ fixed /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new application: AaTerm-terminal (patched openmoko-terminal2)
Aapo Rantalainen wrote: Instructions and package: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/freerunner/aaterm/ Tell me what is missing? Well, looks nice. (From a user point of view) I really like the idea of the right side toolbar. Some questions. Does it invoke the keyboard when you select the text area? (illume keyboard) The current terminal does not, which is rather annoying. And what is this copy button for, intuitively I would think there is a paste button missing. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] First steps
I just installed FSO and I'm quite happy with it : it seems the most reponsive distribution I have yet used. I still have some questions : Addressbook : Is there a way to import a former qtopia sqlite file ? I read some discussions inconclusive about it, is there some advances ? Calendar : openmoko-calendar2 isn't available in repositories. What can I use ? I GPS : do I need to click the map icon in zhone to powerup the antenna and use it with tangogps ? What are the three upper buttons supposed to do in the Zone gps application ? The first one displays latitude/longitude... (right now it displays N/A but I'm inside...) The second and third one open some window with obviously resolution and colors issues. Power Management settings: The settings from the wrench menu in illume don't seem to have any effect : the phone dims + blanks + locks after a minute or so even I set the blank time to off and doesn't suspend even though the suspend time after blank is 1s. Suspend : according to the wiki, you need to press the power button for 2 s to suspend the phone. It doesn't work for me, just powers it off after 7-8 s. Sound : What's the best way to adjust the sound level ? I guess there's still no GUI for that. I've tried playing with several .state files during my first tries with other distributions but things change fast on this topic : what is the control to adjust ? Several applications from the Home menu (terminal, Htop for instance) won't start. I'm running : fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 uImage-2.6.24+r8 +gitr968c41d0c32099d78927849a71e2ef3143cc05e7-r8-om-gta02.bin modules-2.6.24+r8 +gitr968c41d0c32099d78927849a71e2ef3143cc05e7-r8-om-gta02.tgz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new application: AaTerm-terminal (patched openmoko-terminal2)
Tilman Baumann wrote: Aapo Rantalainen wrote: Tell me what is missing? I just installed it. Some questions. Does it invoke the keyboard when you select the text area? (illume keyboard) Does not, pitty. The current terminal does not, which is rather annoying. And what is this copy button for, intuitively I would think there is a paste button missing. I just got the idea how that works. Not bad. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Neo1973 DebugBoard v2 Schematics released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/debug_board/OpenMoKo_Debug_Board_V3_MP.pdf Oh, nice.. May I ask for one more thing - permissions? ;) Forbidden You don't have permission to access /joerg/schematics/debug_board/OpenMoKo_Debug_Board_V3_MP.pdf on this server. ooops, sorry ~~ fixed Thanks, this is what I was looking for :) /j -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iJwEAQECAAYFAkkkO3wACgkQutgEj9ZLuzSu5wQA0wyc65ZZBVLIorkH+5vFCPfy HhT8BoH3oLGqCoSIRg5RGDb+FYebaOz008GmfYcBvWYrv3TaXUSMoSEjLex0OMME /AddQow1i/wFbBHFzx6tUnRNi+w0TtO+bQTTmiVEs/XfybITDVWbVNV5mgaxamLl p9CMbUoE8317T6gN38I= =x/+R -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)
For those of you who are interested in the fltkwish package for the FR, I have added a couple of ipk packages to the SF repository. The fb2image package is a small screen shot utility that is capable of generating either png or jpg images from a sub-window of the FR screen. The fltkwishlibs package contains the pre-built Tcl 8.4, Mesa 7.03 (OpenGL, GLU) and TIFF 3.0 libs. All of this is installed under the /usr/local path, which I have on my SD card to save space on the FR itself. The sources for these libs are widely available on the net, and the binaries are just builds of the unmodified sources using the ARM tool chain. Have fun. Send complaints to my regular e-mail. Iain F. Iain B. Findleton wrote: Okay, for those of you who would like to test out this thing on your FR, you can get an ipk from the fltkwish project on sourceforge.net. Once you have Tcl on your phone (opkg install tcl), and the required graphics libraries, you can do a quick test with the following script: #!/bin/sh # \ exec fltkwish $0 ${1+$@} # # Create an Image widget and load up a file # Image t.t -f myfile.jpg -w 460 -h 570 -autoscale false -center false; Show t You can now drag the image about with your finger, or pen. On my machine the dragging is nice and smooth. You should have an image that is bigger than the display screen to fully appreciate the results. If you have troubles, and if you have read the documentation and still have troubles, feel free to contact me. Iain F. Petr Vanek wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:58:41 -0500 Iain B. Findleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] (IBF) wrote: No problem, although my setup is not opkg ready yet. As my stuff uses Tcl, libjpeg,libpng,libtiff, the setup is not pretty yet, but if you are a Linux handyman type, it can be done. Otherwise, it will have to wait until I get around to package it all up... Yes please, do share anyways, thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Iain B. Findleton Tel: 514-457-0744 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner's GSM Calypso Modem Firmware Upgrade...
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mostly useless, then. The improvements wrt. +CSIM won't affect basic operation. Is there a detailed changelog available for all the earlier versions? Would be interesting to know how gta01 images differ. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Font size problem #2
Michael Mather wrote: I am running FDOM and I think that font sizes are being handled wrongly. ... So the default font size has been set (somewhere, I wish I knew where) to 5. I have spent an inordinate amount of time trying to find where the basic font sizes are set. I have found many such places, but when I change them it seems to make no difference. Please can someone tell me the real place. Michael --- -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Font-size-problem--2-tp1501613p1519670.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
hypermiling SHR for GPS-only usage?
Turn off the Airconditioning and use higher tyre pressure? How can I reduce the energy usage to a minimum when I just want to use my OM as a GPS-only device? Is ist enough to remove the GSM card to shutdown the phone stack? How can I stop other hungry service? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hypermiling SHR for GPS-only usage?
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Joerg Lippmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turn off the Airconditioning and use higher tyre pressure? How can I reduce the energy usage to a minimum when I just want to use my OM as a GPS-only device? Is ist enough to remove the GSM card to shutdown the phone stack? How can I stop other hungry service? I plan to include something to disable GSM in the settings. It'll get done soon :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] First steps
Suspend : according to the wiki, you need to press the power button for 2 s to suspend the phone. It doesn't work for me, just powers it off after 7-8 s. in ms4 you need only to press shortly, no hold anymore. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?
Can you please refer me right paths ? Me 2 i am using the qextended as my daily phone I downloaded the image + rootfs from qtexetended.org version 4.2.2 But i experienced a lot of problems with mp3 player Sound speaker out if I plug the headphones !! Would you suggest me to install only the image file from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html ? Another question for you please: Could you have a video file played properly on any of the qtextended releases? I was trying to do so with an avi 320*240 file but it was complaining about not supported file. Do you have any experience with video file types supported by qtextended Thanks a lot Alishams Hassam-2 wrote: I have been using qtextended with mwester's kernel as a daily phone. Using even the unstable kernel, ontop of daily phone features (making and receiving calls, txt msgs, caller id, contacts off sim) it also suspends/resumes perfect, can play mp3's with the media player (using the headphones as well), and transfer files to the SD card. Should you have any problems, you can always switch to the stable kernel. http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html is where you will find the kernels. The only issue I have had is a missing terminal shortcut when I used the binary update for 4.4.1 to 4.4.2. Since you're not doing that, it should be fine :) On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 11:22 +, Russell Hay wrote: Hi list, I know there is the 'official' QTExtended image on qtextended.org - but there have also been various discussions on the list about using mwesters kernel and some other changes/patches not reflected in the qtextended package. What's the most stable version that I can trial as a 'day to day' handset. I'll even volunteer to update the wiki with the information :-o Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QtExtended--Best-4.4.2-image--tp1518738p1519849.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new application: AaTerm-terminal (patched openmoko-terminal2)
Paste: First select text on any tab, then go to any tab and press paste. Selected text will be pasted. (Similar to openmoko-terminal). Does it invoke the keyboard when you select the text area? (illume keyboard) Any hints how to do this? Does Fdom use illume keyboard? I have problem. When user press any toolbar button, the keyboard hides, I thought it is not good, and I solved it. Are these two things joined together? -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions#Images please update with later versions or alternatives drac2000 wrote: Can you please refer me right paths ? Me 2 i am using the qextended as my daily phone I downloaded the image + rootfs from qtexetended.org version 4.2.2 But i experienced a lot of problems with mp3 player Sound speaker out if I plug the headphones !! Would you suggest me to install only the image file from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html ? Another question for you please: Could you have a video file played properly on any of the qtextended releases? I was trying to do so with an avi 320*240 file but it was complaining about not supported file. Do you have any experience with video file types supported by qtextended Thanks a lot Alishams Hassam-2 wrote: I have been using qtextended with mwester's kernel as a daily phone. Using even the unstable kernel, ontop of daily phone features (making and receiving calls, txt msgs, caller id, contacts off sim) it also suspends/resumes perfect, can play mp3's with the media player (using the headphones as well), and transfer files to the SD card. Should you have any problems, you can always switch to the stable kernel. http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html is where you will find the kernels. The only issue I have had is a missing terminal shortcut when I used the binary update for 4.4.1 to 4.4.2. Since you're not doing that, it should be fine :) On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 11:22 +, Russell Hay wrote: Hi list, I know there is the 'official' QTExtended image on qtextended.org - but there have also been various discussions on the list about using mwesters kernel and some other changes/patches not reflected in the qtextended package. What's the most stable version that I can trial as a 'day to day' handset. I'll even volunteer to update the wiki with the information :-o Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SIM STK Support
Hi all, i would like to know if GT02 support SIM STK. If no, is there a plan to support it ? I saw this post here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/gsmd-devel/2007-March/09.html just wanted to know if there is any progress on that side. Thanks, Lionel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] silly question about synaptics drivers
is it possible to use synaptics drivers to control touchscreen (instead of ts...)? ;-) d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)
Am Wednesday 19 November 2008 12:18:28 schrieb superalex: Hi, I'm using FSO since yesterday and found that the famous echo bug was still appearing. I found a solution that is working for me based in the 2008.8 one. In file /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calyp so/unsolicited.py, function percentCPI, line 210 aprox Where it says: info = {} I have: devchannel = self._object.modem.communicationChannel(DeviceMediator) devchannel.enqueue( %N0187 ) info = {} Guess we should make this configurable, FSO is using -6db, not -12db since this sounds pretty harsh for many people. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM STK Support
Am Wednesday 19 November 2008 19:37:38 schrieb Lionel Brahami (Famoco): i would like to know if GT02 support SIM STK. If no, is there a plan to support it ? FSO has no STK support and it's not really on our roadmap -- please refer to http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015762.html We will accept patches though. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Refund policy
What's the refund policy for the FreeRunner? Nothing wrong with the phone. Something wrong with me. I can't handle the complexity. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] repeat ringtone
Hello! Maybe I have weird taste, but I don't like the Arkanod ringtone in FSO/SHR ;) So I've changed it to my custom ogg ringtone. It plays OK, although if I put a long one (4MB), I have to wait for a couple of vibrations before it actually starts playing. But that's ok, I'm not going to use a full ogg song as a ringtone anyway. My problem is I don't know is it possible to make the ringtone repeat? Right now if I have a short ringtone it plays only one time and then I only hear vibrating. Thanks. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
Walter Chang wrote: i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . enjoy, Fantastic news, quick question - does this keyboard allow us to answer calls at all? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Android--Soft-keyboard-tp1518369p1520385.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] What a wonderfull world
I do experience the same. The other day i heard the sound for messages, the phone went out of suspend, but no sms was there. I had the restart the phone in order to read the message ... 2008/11/13 Marc Bantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Christoph, Christoph Siegenthaler schrieb: Dito. There's just one thing that's kind of a showstopper for me. I can't receive sms. Sorry that I can't provide any useful data except for the fact that I didn't receive a test-sms I sent to my number. Anyone experiencing the same? This was the case with at least two of the previous fso-images. I'm not even sure if I ever got a msg using FSO. I observed the phone ring on incoming sms but zhone didn't show the message. After relaunching zhone the message was there. (GTA02) Marc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] repeat ringtone
Am Wednesday 19 November 2008 20:52:37 schrieb Leonti Bielski: Hello! Maybe I have weird taste, but I don't like the Arkanod ringtone in FSO/SHR ;) So I've changed it to my custom ogg ringtone. It plays OK, although if I put a long one (4MB), I have to wait for a couple of vibrations before it actually starts playing. But that's ok, I'm not going to use a full ogg song as a ringtone anyway. My problem is I don't know is it possible to make the ringtone repeat? Right now if I have a short ringtone it plays only one time and then I only hear vibrating. Please open a ticket, I need to implement that. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: axfs
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 17:46:15 Vinzenz Hersche wrote: Hello there, i don't know if this topic was already a discussion, but i think, if openmoko could change to axfs, i belive, it's a great performance-step. shure, the software had already enough bugs and this isn't the most important thing. there's also enough to do, but: maybe there is someone with enough time who want to implement these fs.. http://axfs.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=10 jffs2 isn't so bad, and i don't know the failures of this system (it's a little bit new), but maybe it's stable enough. so the community know now this system, if someone like it, hack it in! :) (i've not enough time and expirience.. sorry.. :( ) greets I thinke better chois is UBIFS =) Also ubifs already avalieble in mainline kernel 2.6.28 -- Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov Gentoo Team Ru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] First steps
Le mercredi 19 novembre 2008 à 18:06 +0100, arne anka a écrit : in ms4 you need only to press shortly, no hold anymore. Thanks, it works, I'm feeling stupid now because I can't wake it. I tried pressing POW shortly, longer, in combination with AUX, to the rythm of the arkanoid theme... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: axfs
i don't know if this topic was already a discussion, but i think, if openmoko could change to axfs, i belive, it's a great performance-step. Problems with it: - axfs is read-only, so you'd need to use a setup similar to OpenWRT with a axfs filesystem containing the base system plus a jffs2 filesystem layered on top (using some variant of unionfs). - its main attraction is the XIP feature, but this only works with NOR flash. We do have some NOR flash, but it's only 2MB (IIUC) and it can only be flashed with the debug-board, so the potential benefit is slim and restricted to those users who bought the debug board. Using axfs+jffs2 might be an option, where the main benefit would be to save some space on the flash drive, but currently the 256MB of flash is rarely a significant limitation (especially if you're careful to keep only application in the NAND and put all your data/images/sounds in the microSD card). Actually, the one place I know where the 256MB of flash is a bit short is when installing Debian there, but using axfs+jffs2 with Debian would be a fair bit of extra work and would often defeat the purpose of using Debian in the first place. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] repeat ringtone
Just did: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/247 Leonti On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Wednesday 19 November 2008 20:52:37 schrieb Leonti Bielski: Hello! Maybe I have weird taste, but I don't like the Arkanod ringtone in FSO/SHR ;) So I've changed it to my custom ogg ringtone. It plays OK, although if I put a long one (4MB), I have to wait for a couple of vibrations before it actually starts playing. But that's ok, I'm not going to use a full ogg song as a ringtone anyway. My problem is I don't know is it possible to make the ringtone repeat? Right now if I have a short ringtone it plays only one time and then I only hear vibrating. Please open a ticket, I need to implement that. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Your favorite ringtones? (especially .sid?)
Hi, I'm looking for a new ringtone (I like the arkanoid theme, but I need a change). If you have one you like, could you let me (us) know? Tobias mentions a place to find .sids in his email below -- I just couldn't go through all of them. Thanks, Eric Tobias Gruetzmacher wrote: Hi, Here is a patch for frameworkd that allows to inject gstreamer options into file names for the audio playing service. I wrote it because I wanted to use the title music from Giana Sisters as a ring tone, which is tune number 5 in Great_Giana_Sisters_PSID.sid ;) This patch is very generic to allow any option to be injected from the file name. It may be desirable to restrict this to specific options, but currently this allows everything, so you can easily break playing altogether... So if you really want to hear Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit in glorious 3-channel SID, grab yourself a copy of http://hafnium.prg.dtu.dk/HVSC/C64Music/GAMES/S-Z/Summer_Games.sid, place it in /usr/share/sounds and set Summer_Games.sid;tune=5 as your ring tone. Or a manic laughter when an SMS arrives? Try http://hafnium.prg.dtu.dk/HVSC/C64Music/MUSICIANS/L/Lieblich_Russell/Ghostbusters_PSID.sid and set Ghostbusters_PSID.sid;tune=4 as your message tone. Well, you get the idea. :) Since I'm not very fluent with Python, please point out anything I might have done wrong. Hope you like the patch. Greetings, Tobias ___ smartphones-standards mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/smartphones-standards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Your favorite ringtones? (especially .sid?)
see https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2080 for http://212.83.231.34/artwork_sounds_20081024_extra.tar.gz and /src/target/OM-2007.2/artwork/sounds/ from version control [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a new ringtone (I like the arkanoid theme, but I need a change). If you have one you like, could you let me (us) know? Tobias mentions a place to find .sids in his email below -- I just couldn't go through all of them. Thanks, Eric Tobias Gruetzmacher wrote: Hi, Here is a patch for frameworkd that allows to inject gstreamer options into file names for the audio playing service. I wrote it because I wanted to use the title music from Giana Sisters as a ring tone, which is tune number 5 in Great_Giana_Sisters_PSID.sid ;) This patch is very generic to allow any option to be injected from the file name. It may be desirable to restrict this to specific options, but currently this allows everything, so you can easily break playing altogether... So if you really want to hear Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit in glorious 3-channel SID, grab yourself a copy of http://hafnium.prg.dtu.dk/HVSC/C64Music/GAMES/S-Z/Summer_Games.sid, place it in /usr/share/sounds and set Summer_Games.sid;tune=5 as your ring tone. Or a manic laughter when an SMS arrives? Try http://hafnium.prg.dtu.dk/HVSC/C64Music/MUSICIANS/L/Lieblich_Russell/Ghostbusters_PSID.sid and set Ghostbusters_PSID.sid;tune=4 as your message tone. Well, you get the idea. :) Since I'm not very fluent with Python, please point out anything I might have done wrong. Hope you like the patch. Greetings, Tobias ___ smartphones-standards mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/smartphones-standards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
they don't already? please issue a ticket. we'll fix the bug. George Brooke wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:01:47 +1100 Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tig wrote: Ok I will bite :) Q: Why did OM cross the road? A: To get to another toolkit :) Q: How many OM devs does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Well first we need to abandon the old lightbulb holder because at a later date we may not be able to plug a floodlight in, bring in a new lightbulb holder and adapt it to multiple floodlights, meanwhile the engineering team has realized that this will only run green floodlights and has started rewiring the whole house.. :) The burnt out lightbulb is due to be fixed at a later date :) Please not this is not a cue for a thread on lightbulb analogies :) Q: What is the difference between a professional photographer and OM user? A: The OM user has to flash more often :) Q: Why did the OM newbie log onto #openmoko? A: Because they had not read: a) the wiki and b) the topic As then they would know you slide your finder up on the keyboard to get the numbers to enter your sim pin. I will be here all week, try the salad :) Regards (apologies for posting via gmane moving e-mail around) Hehe, love the lightbulb one! Q: What's the difference between an iphone and a freerunner? A: One works but takes away your freedom, the other is free but needs your work Knock, Knock Who's There? A Neo User A Neo User Q: What did the Neo say to the insomniac? A: At least when you go to sleep you know you'll wake up! Ancient chinese proverb: Neo owner is man carrying wall charger And I've saved my favorite for last: Q: What's the difference between a brick and a freerunner? A: A brick isn't designed to make phone calls. ;) -Dale (All in good fun) Maybe these should appear on the splash screen of the Neos solar.george ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] First steps
julien cubizolles wrote: Le mercredi 19 novembre 2008 à 18:06 +0100, arne anka a écrit : in ms4 you need only to press shortly, no hold anymore. Thanks, it works, I'm feeling stupid now because I can't wake it. I tried pressing POW shortly, longer, in combination with AUX, to the rythm of the arkanoid theme... I had similar problem. I pushed the button and nothing happened, then I tried to push it again, but before I did, it actually started suspending (got into text mode, some lines started pass by). So the second press obviously interrupted normal suspend routine and put FR into unusable state. Only removing battery helps. I can reproduce it. But if I press power button once and wait for it to suspend properly, next short press wakes it up reliably. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--First-steps-tp1519607p1520711.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Your favorite ringtones? (especially .sid?)
There are many websites where you can download original c64 sid music files. I recommend the The High Voltage SID Collection with over 30.000 sid files in it from http://hvsc.c64.org. I think there you find some nice ringtones for you. ;) Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a new ringtone (I like the arkanoid theme, but I need a change). If you have one you like, could you let me (us) know? Tobias mentions a place to find .sids in his email below -- I just couldn't go through all of them. Thanks, Eric Tobias Gruetzmacher wrote: Hi, Here is a patch for frameworkd that allows to inject gstreamer options into file names for the audio playing service. I wrote it because I wanted to use the title music from Giana Sisters as a ring tone, which is tune number 5 in Great_Giana_Sisters_PSID.sid ;) This patch is very generic to allow any option to be injected from the file name. It may be desirable to restrict this to specific options, but currently this allows everything, so you can easily break playing altogether... So if you really want to hear Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit in glorious 3-channel SID, grab yourself a copy of http://hafnium.prg.dtu.dk/HVSC/C64Music/GAMES/S-Z/Summer_Games.sid, place it in /usr/share/sounds and set Summer_Games.sid;tune=5 as your ring tone. Or a manic laughter when an SMS arrives? Try http://hafnium.prg.dtu.dk/HVSC/C64Music/MUSICIANS/L/Lieblich_Russell/Ghostbusters_PSID.sid and set Ghostbusters_PSID.sid;tune=4 as your message tone. Well, you get the idea. :) Since I'm not very fluent with Python, please point out anything I might have done wrong. Hope you like the patch. Greetings, Tobias ___ smartphones-standards mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/smartphones-standards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
I'm not familiar with the android environment so here are a couple of questions do I need the android SDK to install this keyboard? if I don't need it then, how do I ssh into android once it's running? I've tried the usual ifconfig usb0 x.x.x.x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the connection is refused. if i dont need to ssh to install it, then how to do it? regards Tom Walter Chang escribió: i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . enjoy, walter chang -- ...__o ...\, ( )/ ( )... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Illume dictionary for Dutch (Nederlands)
Hi all, Together with http://opentaal.org , I'm working on a special Illume dictionary for Dutch word completion. It will be available in the near future. Of course this particular word list is very long and contains about 250,000 words and has a typical lng tail. Many words or compositions or occur seldom in average day use. What would be a good cut off point in number of words, also in terms of performance? The Portuguese list contains 56,609 words. Is this workable? How many does the English contain? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
OM2008.9 and FSO walk into a bar. How are you? How are you? asks FSO. Buzzz says OM2008.9 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Tig wrote: Ok I will bite :) Q: Why did OM cross the road? A: To get to another toolkit :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume dictionary for Dutch (Nederlands)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:25:22PM +0100, Pander wrote: Hi all, Together with http://opentaal.org , I'm working on a special Illume dictionary for Dutch word completion. It will be available in the near future. Of course this particular word list is very long and contains about 250,000 words and has a typical lng tail. Many words or compositions or occur seldom in average day use. What would be a good cut off point in number of words, also in terms of performance? The Portuguese list contains 56,609 words. Is this workable? How many does the English contain? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# wc -w *.dic 196684 English_(US).dic 10002 English_(US)_Small.dic 113218 Portuguese (ASCII).dic 319904 total So it's a little under the double of the words. Rui -- Frink! Today is Pungenday, the 31st day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume dictionary for Dutch (Nederlands)
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:25:22 +0100 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi all, Together with http://opentaal.org , I'm working on a special Illume dictionary for Dutch word completion. It will be available in the near future. Of course this particular word list is very long and contains about 250,000 words and has a typical lng tail. Many words or compositions or occur seldom in average day use. What would be a good cut off point in number of words, also in terms of performance? The Portuguese list contains 56,609 words. Is this workable? How many does the English contain? english is about 98,000, but remember english has very few changes in words for conjugation. i need to change the dict format to account for this and compress better i think. i do need to make a different entered text - visible word mapping tho. this covers blind qwerty entry for accented words. i.e.: (german) fass - Faß brotchen - Brötchen (french) cafe - café etage - étage francais - Français (japanese) sakana - さかな | 魚 | 肴 | 坂な | 茶菓な | 阪な | 差かな | 左かな | 差かな | 査かな | 鎖かな | サカナ | sakana note that in some languages can have 1 romanised input match multiple (different) displays of that word (japanese is king at this. chinese likely if using pinyin could be similar). right now the dict format doesn't allow for this and sure- i can extend with a list of displayed words so currently non-freq format is: cafe etage with freq: cafe 126 etage 98 i can add a display list: cafe 126 cafe café etage 98 étage but the file will get bigger and bigger and get harder to auto-generate from input data. right now i am unsure of the exact strategy to take... but i'd like to cover as many languages as i can with 1 format and have minimal dict size overhead etc. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Announce: omnewrotate 0.5.0
http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/19/openmoko-newrotate-050-lazy-edition-is-out/ Hi, I’ve just release a new version of omnewrotate (OpenPGP signature), the ‘Lazy Edition’ because it uses so much less CPU than any version I did before. Oh, I forgot to mention it in the release commit, but at least with FSO M4 I’m getting a very stable rotation BUT if the screen looks garbled, please wait a few seconds until the graphic user interface adjusts to the screen changes. I don’t think I can do much about that… From the ChangeLog: 2008-11-19 - 0.5.0 - Lazy edition * uses a second thread for reading the accellerometer packets * drops Fabian's changes (not that they weren't good, just not needed any more) * adds flags (look at display_help() or ./rotate -h) * drops packets with 0 value coordinates (I got bogus packets like that so I decided to drop them, if you feel you get good packets with 0 value, you can use '-0' as an argument to take them in account). * top -d 1 -p PID shows 0.0% CPU usage (of omnewrotate) even during rotation * seems to waste a little too much memory (some stuff could be done with one number and bitwise operations instead of several numbers, I wonder how much that will improve and if it's worth the effort...) * only output outside of debug mode are real errors -- This statement is false. Today is Pungenday, the 31st day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
Hallo, I updated my Debian today with apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade. The update switched some FSO related files. I think to FSO M4. After the update some strange things happend. The first thing is, that the openmoko-panel-plugin is removed because it is linked to frameworkd. But the most important thing for me is, that after the update i get no gps fix anymore. fso-gpsd is installd and running. The zhone build in gps application an tango gps get no fix. tail -f /dev/ttySAC1 shows nothing, telnet localhost gps connects but shows on pa input only debian-gta02:~# telnet localhost 2947 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. pa GPSD,P=?,A=? It would be nice if someone has a hint, where I could start debuging. Greetings Dennis M -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Debian--FSO--GPS--No-Fix-tp1521077p1521077.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume dictionary for Dutch (Nederlands)
Pander wrote: Of course this particular word list is very long and contains about 250,000 words and has a typical lng tail. Many words or compositions or occur seldom in average day use. What would be a good cut off point in number of words, also in terms of performance? The Portuguese list contains 56,609 words. Is this workable? How many does the English contain? The Italian one can count also 500'000 words (to be short), but I can get a well working dictionary only using a smaller one (with about 150'000 words that I've taken counting its google popularity). Btw I've written more complete posts about this on the list... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
nope. lets hope the next release from sean fixes that. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Gothnet [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Walter Chang wrote: i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . enjoy, Fantastic news, quick question - does this keyboard allow us to answer calls at all? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Android--Soft-keyboard-tp1518369p1520385.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ...__o ...\, ( )/ ( )... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
read the comments at the bottom: http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/11/getting-started-with-android-on-neo.html On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Tomas Riveros Schober [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm not familiar with the android environment so here are a couple of questions do I need the android SDK to install this keyboard? if I don't need it then, how do I ssh into android once it's running? I've tried the usual ifconfig usb0 x.x.x.x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the connection is refused. if i dont need to ssh to install it, then how to do it? regards Tom Walter Chang escribió: i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . enjoy, walter chang -- ...__o ...\, ( )/ ( )... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ...__o ...\, ( )/ ( )... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
Fragggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the most important thing for me is, that after the update i get no gps fix anymore. Does the GPS chip have power? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state - headset working
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Matthias Apitz wrote: one don't need extending the desktop to launch 'alsactl -f gsmspeakerout.state restore'; when you're in a call there is a small menue on the left buttom side called 'Options' which let you switch between 'handset' and 'speakerout'; you star! from that, moving gsmspeakerout.state to one side and linking gsmheadset.state to gsmspeakerout.state means that, whilst i don't need speakerphone mode much, i can now switch to headset - which is very important for me - inside a call. i notice now that there's a headset option that shows up there *sometimes*, but it's less-easy to access than speakerphone and anyway it doesn't work as well. perhaps it loads headset.state instead of gsmheadset.state? if anyone else wants the details, they're at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Headset . interestingly, this has reduced the list of things that prevent my 'moko from being a perfectly good everyday phone to zero. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
I think so. cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron shows a 1 I have put the Freerunner next to a window over Night and logt the output of /dev/ttySAC1. After a few minutes I got Messages like this: $GPRMC,073904.00,A,5127.73160,N,00651.01957,E,0.229,279.62,201108,,,A*66 $GPVTG,279.62,T,,M,0.229,N,0.424,K,A*3E $GPGGA,073904.00,5127.73160,N,00651.01957,E,1,09,0.92,26.1,M,47.5,M,,*6E $GPGSA,A,3,05,04,09,29,12,30,02,14,321.49,0.92,1.17*07 $GPGSV,3,1,11,05,78,276,25,17,03,039,,04,21,068,32,09,48,135,28*7A $GPGSV,3,2,11,29,19,200,27,12,83,044,28,30,50,263,37,02,18,113,29*78 $GPGSV,3,3,11,14,42,290,33,32,05,344,33,31,04 but still no fix this morning. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Debian--FSO--GPS--No-Fix-tp1521077p1556214.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume dictionary for Dutch (Nederlands)
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 03:02:41AM +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Pander wrote: Of course this particular word list is very long and contains about 250,000 words and has a typical lng tail. Many words or compositions or occur seldom in average day use. What would be a good cut off point in number of words, also in terms of performance? The Portuguese list contains 56,609 words. Is this workable? How many does the English contain? The Italian one can count also 500'000 words (to be short), but I can get a well working dictionary only using a smaller one (with about 150'000 words that I've taken counting its google popularity). Btw I've written more complete posts about this on the list... Well, since my basis was based on a million words taken from the most printed daily newspaper in Portugal (I didn't count but still I removed a lot of non words like numbers, etc...) already with frequency data, my job was so much easier... :) As for writing SMS/text messages... I haven't found yet a word that wasn't there (in fact my problem is that it so often is the first of several matches so I have to use the menu on the left) but I must confess to not be one of those whose primary use of the phone is SMS/text! Rui -- Frink! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 32nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community