RE: Newbie: Converting a brick to a phone

2008-12-10 Thread KaZeR
I've been out of the loop for a while but check your kernel sound modules are loading (lsmod|grep snd). This has been a prob on more than one distribution. You may have to issue a moddep or you may not actually have the required modules. Thank you. In fact i flashed OM-testing to test a

No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread John Lee
Dear community, I'm writing this to inform you that the optimization team is dismissed, so there won't be weekly updates anymore. Further details and reasons behind this are inappropriate to be answered by me. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 16:52 +0800, John Lee wrote: Dear community, I'm writing this to inform you that the optimization team is dismissed, so there won't be weekly updates anymore. Further details and reasons behind this are inappropriate to be answered by me. And you switched your email

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek
John Lee wrote: Dear community, I'm writing this to inform you that the optimization team is dismissed, so there won't be weekly updates anymore. Further details and reasons behind this are inappropriate to be answered by me. What the heck? Are there any _long-term_ visions how to make

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Steve, Sean, anybody more appropriate please clarify this ASAP, no more resources in optimization?? crisis has arrive at least to Openmoko Inc.??? It not sounds any good :( :( 2008/12/10 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear community, I'm writing this to inform you that the optimization team

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
David, the optimization team finished their work a few weeks ago, most people were working on new tasks already. I knew before I had to take the blame for expectations that got unprofessionally raised to a level where we could not deliver, and here I am now taking the blame. Let me explain

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Bernd Prünster
the panic about where openmoko puts their efforts in... panic for NO REASON. sorry no offence but, i think it is because of the infacy of some users, which can't hande information and start running around in circles screaming fire, fire fire!. i am sure there will still be optimization, but

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Le mercredi 10 décembre 2008, Wolfgang Spraul a écrit : David, the optimization team finished their work a few weeks ago, most people were working on new tasks already. I knew before I had to take the blame for expectations that got unprofessionally raised to a level where we could not

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread arne anka
sorry no offence but, i think it is because of the infacy of some users, which can't hande information and start running around in circles screaming fire, fire fire!. sentences like these dismissed, so there won't be weekly updates anymore. Further details and reasons behind this are

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ---2 Mickey's framework milestones As many people know, the next big thing for Openmoko will be Mickey's FSO framework around d-bus and Python, and the Paroli telephony UI. Thank you very much for this overview of strategy. I have used

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:53:18PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: However, I am bit puzzled about building on top of a new graphical toolkit (EFL). Wouldn't we avoid many problems by using established toolkits like QT or GTK+? The UI is supposed to be light so it should be easy to port it

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread arne anka
setting ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never. That way, it drains a lot of battery even when suspended :( don't see that with debian/fso -- i was afraid of it too, but mickey said it wouldn't matter compared to the amount of power drawn by permanent re-connecting ...

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EFL isn't exactly new, just not so popular as gtk+ or qt. Heh, maybe I'm just being a bit debian centric here. I saw libecore0 - Core abstraction layer for enlightenment DR 0.17 in debian experimental and thought that it can't be too

openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey
It is possible to create your own router with a routerboard ... Now if Openmoko were to create an OpenWRT compatible router with stupid amounts of storage space, awesome wireless range, a screaming CPU Out of curiosity, what's the main benefit in having a hackable ADSL router? Outside of

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-10 Thread Vasco Névoa
I'd really like pictures with better focus and a little more light... especially the last one, which is very blurred! Citando Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, I pulled the old copy. See below SOP paper (draft3, 2008-12-10 19:00) placed here:

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our current stable image is called 'Om2008.9', available at http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/ We are sometimes cherry-picking fixes into it, but admittedly not as many as we would like. If someone wants to step up to become stable

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes
Yes - could we have a definitive answer on whether there will be a 2008.12 release of the current testing? I seem to remember that a few weeks ago it was nearly ready and it was almost certainly going to be 2008.11, clearly it slipped... Cheers, - Gunnar Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Wolfgang

RE: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips!

2008-12-10 Thread KaZeR
-Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Neil Jerram Envoyé : mercredi 10 décembre 2008 11:56 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; List for Openmoko community discussion Objet : Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! 2008/12/10 Steve Mosher [EMAIL

Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Fischer
Marc Manthey wrote: Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer: Marc Manthey wrote: Second question I would like to know if there is a DNS server implementation or something like bonjour / avahi available for openmoko ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Xavier Bestel
Hi, On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 18:13 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: The latest image, including all optimizations from the optimization team are in http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/ (openmoko-testing-om) We were testing this image a bit, haven't seen the full test report yet.

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Bernd, i am sure there will still be optimization, but without a dedicated team, so there won't be regular updates. Correct. From my perspective the updates weren't helpful anyway, I'd rather not talk and instead deliver. The latest image, including all optimizations from the optimization

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Will Siddall
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, maybe I'm just being a bit debian centric here. I saw libecore0 - Core abstraction layer for enlightenment DR 0.17 in debian experimental and thought that it can't be too established or un-new. I would

Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
I'm not sure how standalone avahi-discover-standalone is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install avahi-discover-standalone Installing avahi-discover-standalone (0.6.22-r8.01) to root... Downloading

Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-10 Thread ankostis
Hi, as a last resort i'm reporting publicly my problems regarding a broken-on-arrival battery from Truebox.com after i had ordered from them OpenMoko's FR, on August 2008. I reported my problematic battery as soon as i got my hands on it, on late August-September on the following MLs: [1]: New

Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Fischer
Marc Manthey wrote: Guess avahi-discover-standalone might be enough for browsing IMHO ? I suppose the dns-sd command you gave me should return info on all FTP services within the dns-sd.org domain. I dabbled with avahi some time ago and if I remember correctly the command you are searching

Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey
Am 10.12.2008 um 14:38 schrieb Joseph Reeves: Configuring avahi-discover-standalone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a addgroup adduseralsamixer apmd ar assassin atinterface addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter ash atdawk looks

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-10 Thread Gothnet
John Lee wrote: I shouldn't say gta03, I should say the next generation software we are going to use. Since people will switch to that software with their freerunner (gta02), it makes more sense to put more resource to work on that. My writing wasn't accurate enough. Sorry about that.

Re: Om2008.9 GPS Fix some help, please

2008-12-10 Thread Samuel Pereira
Hi, I'm using Om2008.9, and now i see that i only get a fix outside, and in a place without many buildings or trees. I'm using TangoGPS and i already have download the maps, and i can use it in my car, he shows the route, and the speed, its work great! I get this fix, but if mobile suspend i

Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey
Am 10.12.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Andreas Fischer: Marc Manthey wrote: Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer: Marc Manthey wrote: Second question I would like to know if there is a DNS server implementation or something like bonjour / avahi available for openmoko ? [EMAIL

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 10:58:36 Wolfgang Spraul wrote: David, the optimization team finished their work a few weeks ago, most people were working on new tasks already. The most wanted improvement of the optimization team was, at least for me, a solution to #1024. I still suffer it.

Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Fischer
Marc Manthey wrote: Second question I would like to know if there is a DNS server implementation or something like bonjour / avahi available for openmoko ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 - libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey
Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer: Marc Manthey wrote: Second question I would like to know if there is a DNS server implementation or something like bonjour / avahi available for openmoko ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi libavahi-client3 -

Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
From another FreeRunner running 2008.9: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a addgroup adduseralsamixer apmd ar assassin atinterfaceavahi-daemon addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter ash atdavahi-autoipd awk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

Re: Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console

2008-12-10 Thread Stroller
On 10 Dec 2008, at 01:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stroller wrote: For me, personally, a fully open-source ADSL router would be more compelling. Whilst you can do just about anything you want with iptables, most of us need a separate ADSL box of some sort [1]. Given any arbitrary ADSL

current testing repos - endless upgrade?

2008-12-10 Thread Tony Berth
Dear Group, if I 'opkg upgrade' once, shouldn't do the same when I reboot and try to upgarde one more time? Why does opkg keep 'upgrading'? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Fischer
Rui Castro wrote: Hi, Like many people in this community I have my Neo resting comfortably in my desk because there isn't a stable OS with the basic phone funcionalities available at the moment (I already tried all the distributions available). Some distributions provide some of the basic

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Giorgio Marci
I'm completly agree with Rui. The fact is that today, after several months, we have a phone that is not (yet) fully working. As my experience i tried all the distributions and the better one (in my very personal opinion) is the SHR that (unfortunately) doesn't include a phone calls manager, an

Re: OMoney Milestone 1

2008-12-10 Thread Tony Berth
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Thomas Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to announce the initial release of OMoney! OMoney ... bookkeeping on the go. One might ask, why the hell do we need a bookkeeping software on a phone? Because my experience shows that if one does not record the

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Jurg van Vliet
people, i tend to agree with Rui as well. i understand it is difficult to 'kill your darlings' but what is the (business) sense to have '8 distributions for 10.000 phones'? (the only reason i can think of is some innovative user interface, and not one of the current distributions has

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-10 Thread ankostis
(At least now i got a reply!) Your reply raises 3 immediate issues: 1) If you were indeed willing to do business with me *before*, why then did you ignore my last 2+1 mails (see next issue), on Oct 31, Dec the 1st and Dec the 5th? 2) Since you claimed to have sent me already 1 battery and got

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread DJDAS
Andreas Fischer ha scritto: I totally disagree. First, I do not think that phones age that quick. I used an age-old Nokia phone (I think it was a 3510 - ca. 2002) until I got my Freerunner this summer. Unless something unforeseen happens, next summer the two Neos will _still_ be the only fully

Re: OMoney Milestone 1

2008-12-10 Thread Thomas Bumbl
Thank you for your replies. First question would be: why the hell is this thread mixed up with anotherone at nabble? Then: @Arigead: I have planned in location awareness (the database includes a field for gps coords) All location based features will come later though Other stuff has higher

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Michel
Andreas Fischer wrote: Hi, I'm sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, but I am a bit confused by people constantly complaining: Either you have a completely different phone or you came here with the wrong expectations. To me at least it was clear when I got the phone that it wouldn't be

Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery

2008-12-10 Thread Marcel
At least you could provoke Rob to finally reply. A store that is not willing to send packages with tracking and then complains if you say the packages do not arrive is not worth any more money. Even you yourself said he should use tracking, so he is not in position to rectify himself with high

Re: [FSO][M4] DOOM Running slow.

2008-12-10 Thread Fox Mulder
Could you please compile a version with these debug outputs? I still can't play doom because i don't know the reason why it hangs at the start screen. This would really help to solve the problem for me and mayby some other debian users. :) Fox Mulder wrote: I think the debug output would be

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread arne anka
'kill your darlings' but what is the (business) sense to have '8 distributions for 10.000 phones'? (the only reason i can think of is om provides and develops only one distribution! if there are more than this one it is done by community effort -- people who bought the freerunner exactly

Re: OMoney Milestone 1

2008-12-10 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 07:30:07PM +0100, Thomas Bumbl wrote: P.S.: Special thanks to Ainulindale for helping me with bitbake. And special thanks We should make an Ainulindale appreciation day :) Rui -- Or not. Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 52nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Fischer
Michel wrote: Maybe we could have a page on the wiki where people can tell in which country they are, which provider and if they have the buzz bug or not. That would be a good idea. Let's start this wiki page and also record the echo issue in it (which also seems to vary among people). Anyone

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread arne anka
Maybe we could have a page on the wiki where people can tell in which country they are, which provider and if they have the buzz bug or not. That would be a good idea. Let's start this wiki page and also record the echo issue in it (which also seems to vary among people). Anyone knowing

Re: OMoney Milestone 1

2008-12-10 Thread Tony Berth
probably a stupid question but ... where can I find the log of that application? I'm using the latest jffs (Om2008.9-gta02-20081117.rootfs.jffs2) and did the updates from the test repos Thanks On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your replies.

Re: OMoney Milestone 1

2008-12-10 Thread Thomas Bumbl
Actually we really should. :) Thank you Ainulindale! Thank you quickdev! 2008/12/10 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 07:30:07PM +0100, Thomas Bumbl wrote: P.S.: Special thanks to Ainulindale for helping me with bitbake. And special thanks We

Re: OMoney Milestone 1

2008-12-10 Thread Thomas Bumbl
I think it should be /home/root/*.log 2008/12/10 Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably a stupid question but ... where can I find the log of that application? I'm using the latest jffs (Om2008.9-gta02-20081117.rootfs.jffs2) and did the updates from the test repos Thanks On Wed, Dec 10,

Persistent Personal Names for Globally Connected Mobile Devices - was openmoko as a ipv6 router

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey
i want to use bonjour or avahi for my project BUT Avahi does not implement this functionallity yet, -- On Linux (at least on Debian), you need the mDNSResponder package provided by Apple on the Bonjour downloads page. Unfortunately, Avahi_doesn't_yet

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Gothnet
I agree with Rui, and as a Software Engineer with about a decade of C under my belt I should be able to help out. It's just getting motivated and getting started that are the problems here The nice thing about Android is that it seems like the interface stuff is basically there, it's sharp

My 2 cent

2008-12-10 Thread drac2000
I was watching the FR since 2 years almost, I was runing crazy (checking the home page 3 times a day) until I got my first FR in August I am a very proud FR owner, and beeing part of the comunity. arne anka wrote: the buzzing issue is _technically_ solved. the cause has been found a long

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Cyberfrag Fischer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 10.12.2008 17:17, arne anka schrieb: Maybe we could have a page on the wiki where people can tell in which country they are, which provider and if they have the buzz bug or not. That would be a good idea. Let's start this wiki page and also

Re: top bar clock in testing

2008-12-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:11:21 +0300 Vadim, Efimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:21:35 +0300, ivvmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another vote for this. The analog clock is rather useless. enlightenment have extra module - tclock,( many

Re: SD boot, mounting phone

2008-12-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Rodney Myers wrote: On Dec 8, 2008, at 2:55 AM, arne anka wrote: doesn't your /etc/fstab contain an entry for /mnt/flash or so? from installing debian on sd i got /dev/mtdblock6 /mnt/flash jffs2 defaults,noatime,noauto 0 2 which mounts the internal flash -- not sure, though,

Get rid of the Buzz Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Michel
arne anka wrote: Hi, i wish, you guys would check archives and wiki before posting this stuff. Maybe you should read my message a bit better before replying. :) the buzzing issue is _technically_ solved. the cause has been found a long while ago. fixes where tested and brought down to a

Re: SD boot, mounting phone

2008-12-10 Thread Rodney Myers
On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Rodney Myers wrote: On Dec 8, 2008, at 2:55 AM, arne anka wrote: doesn't your /etc/fstab contain an entry for /mnt/flash or so? from installing debian on sd i got /dev/mtdblock6 /mnt/flash jffs2 defaults,noatime,noauto

ALSA

2008-12-10 Thread Clemens Dörrhöfer
Is there any useful Information in the net, which tells me a little something about the big mistery ALSA on openmoko? After installing the pymixer I can no longer use my moko as phone because I neither have sound nor microfone. All information I find about this topic is more or less useless.

Re: ALSA

2008-12-10 Thread Marcel
Am Wednesday 10 December 2008 21:23:06 schrieb Clemens Dörrhöfer: Is there any useful Information in the net, which tells me a little something about the big mistery ALSA on openmoko? After installing the pymixer I can no longer use my moko as phone because I neither have sound nor microfone.

Re: ALSA

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Clemens Dörrhöfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any useful Information in the net, which tells me a little something about the big mistery ALSA on openmoko? After installing the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem has a useful block diagram and

Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)

2008-12-10 Thread Helge Hafting
arne anka wrote: [...] Echo reacts to some tweaking in alsa and maybe Calypso firmware option selection, I guess this turn up in rootfs images as best it can. OK, but do you need to be so imprecise about this? What can't there be a definitive solution? because the echo is caused only

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Wolfgang thanks a lot for this clear development guide, It really clear my mind and I'm anxious to follow,test and play with all the steps you have mentioned, I will try to helps as much as I can in this line. 2008/12/10 Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David, the optimization team finished

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2008/12/10 Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Second: Basing FDOM on 2008.testing seems even more a good idea now. Given that the official plan does not seem to include its release to the masses. I'm doing my best to have a release soon thanks for the support :)

Service commands

2008-12-10 Thread Atilla Filiz
Is there any work towards using service commands(maybe i'm using the wrong term here). By service command I mean I can call *100# to learn the balance on my prepaid account. I tried this both on zhone(Debian) and qt dialer(2008.8, QTX), none seemed to work. Is this a complicated task or am I the

Re: Service commands

2008-12-10 Thread Marcel
Am Wednesday 10 December 2008 22:27:38 schrieb Atilla Filiz: Is there any work towards using service commands(maybe i'm using the wrong term here). By service command I mean I can call *100# to learn the balance on my prepaid account. I tried this both on zhone(Debian) and qt dialer(2008.8,

Re: Service commands

2008-12-10 Thread Clemens Dörrhöfer
Atilla Filiz wrote: Is there any work towards using service commands(maybe i'm using the wrong term here). By service command I mean I can call *100# to learn the balance on my prepaid account. I tried this both on zhone(Debian) and qt dialer(2008.8, QTX), none seemed to work. Is this a

Re: ALSA

2008-12-10 Thread Clemens Dörrhöfer
Marcel wrote: Am Wednesday 10 December 2008 21:23:06 schrieb Clemens Dörrhöfer: Is there any useful Information in the net, which tells me a little something about the big mistery ALSA on openmoko? After installing the pymixer I can no longer use my moko as phone because I neither have sound

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Warren Baird
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Rui Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Like many people in this community I have my Neo resting comfortably in my desk because there isn't a stable OS with the basic phone funcionalities available at the moment (I already tried all the distributions

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Warren Baird
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Rui Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Like many people in this community I have my Neo resting comfortably in my desk because there isn't a stable OS with the basic phone funcionalities available at the moment (I already tried all the distributions

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Yorick Moko
eeeuhm this is no fix... yes it consumes less globally than with the constant reconnecting, but a ton of c4 is also less harmful than an nuclear bomb doesn't mean we have to be happy with a ton of c4 in our pocket... On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Service commands

2008-12-10 Thread Atilla Filiz
It doesn't seem to work for me in QTEx 4.4.2(i thought this was .1) Thank you for the reply. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Clemens Dörrhöfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Atilla Filiz wrote: Is there any work towards using service commands(maybe i'm using the wrong term here). By service

Re: top bar clock in testing

2008-12-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:16:38 +0100 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:11:21 +0300 Vadim, Efimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:21:35 +0300, ivvmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another vote for

Re: Service commands

2008-12-10 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Wednesday 10 December 2008 22:27:38 schrieb Atilla Filiz: Is there any work towards using service commands(maybe i'm using the wrong term here). By service command I mean I can call *100# to learn the balance on my prepaid account. I tried this both on zhone(Debian) and qt dialer(2008.8,

Re: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR

2008-12-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
KaZeR wrote: drac2000 wrote: I already tried it with my maps.. but not successfully through engine finding paths and all that ... What version was it? Was it successful for you finding and routing? Yes, but for France i'm using Reiseplanner maps (commercial, around 40e). I'm using

420MP 4-port USB 2.0 Hub (CP-H420MP)

2008-12-10 Thread Joop Boonen
All, I've been looking for this usb hub for quite some time, but I cant find it in Western-Europe mainland (where I can pay by bank transaction). Does anyone know where in Western-Europe i can buy this hub? Regards, Joop. ___ Openmoko community

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this is no fix... yes it consumes less globally than with the constant reconnecting, but a ton of c4 is also less harmful than an nuclear bomb doesn't mean we have to be happy with a ton of c4 in our pocket... It's better than without the fix so this

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread t m
The goal of the optimization team was getting us a workable phone. I've installed the testing version yesterday and run into a lot of issues (echo, buzz, not able to wake up) I love the idea of this phone, the openness, the capabilities, but my patience has been stretched beyond tolerance. I have

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Rui Castro
Hi, English is not my primary language and that's the reason, I think, for some people that replied to my message, totally missing the point of it. I support the Openmoko initiative as much as everyone in this community, that's why I bought a Neo Freerunner and that's why I contributed with a

Re: ALSA

2008-12-10 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 10 December 2008, Clemens Dörrhöfer wrote: Marcel wrote: Am Wednesday 10 December 2008 21:23:06 schrieb Clemens Dörrhöfer: Is there any useful Information in the net, which tells me a little something about the big mistery ALSA on openmoko? After installing the pymixer I can

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Will Siddall wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, maybe I'm just being a bit debian centric here. I saw libecore0 - Core abstraction layer for enlightenment DR 0.17 in debian experimental and thought that it can't be too established or

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
arne anka wrote: sorry no offence but, i think it is because of the infacy of some users, which can't hande information and start running around in circles screaming fire, fire fire!. sentences like these dismissed, so there won't be weekly updates anymore. Further details and reasons

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Rui Castro wrote: So, my idea with my first message was to try to encourage people from the community (and from Openmoko too) to put a little effort to make Android stable in the Freerunner so that Openmoko and the community could benefict from having another alternative OS, in the SHORT term.

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: the optimization team finished their work a few weeks ago, most people were working on new tasks already. Mmhmh... I was just thinking... What about the python-loader? If I don't remember wrong, the optimization team had also the task of creating a python loader to

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Mosher
RE 1024. The optimization team was not working on 1024. there is one dedicated engineer working on 1024 who specializes in this area. There is some understanding but not certainty on the root cause which may be related to the base station rather than the phone. I don't intend to

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Mosher
Probably best to send the requests directly to Joerg. Vasco Névoa wrote: I'd really like pictures with better focus and a little more light... especially the last one, which is very blurred! Citando Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, I pulled the old copy. See below SOP

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Mosher
A list on the wiki of all severe problems and the end user details would be great, especially for future reference. Some of the problems, like Buzz, 1024 (recamp) seem to happen to some people and not others. I never had the buzz problem, go figure. 1. problems: WSOD, recamp, Buzz, echo (

Re: Global Domination 0.9

2008-12-10 Thread rakshat hooja
Is it will be possible to add an Openmoko logo to the look of the store page in the near future? I am going to send an email to all my friends who may be willing to spend $25 to support OM but not really buy the Freerunner. But the current page is very generic looking and does not connect with

Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone

2008-12-10 Thread rakshat hooja
Hi Steve, Please start the page on the wiki with your phone info and I (and hopefully many others) will add there info there. I would start the page but not too sure where to start it or if bots clear out orphan pages on the wiki. Rakshat On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Steve Mosher [EMAIL

Re: www.opkg.org - Update

2008-12-10 Thread Tobias Kündig
Hello everyone Just another short update from opkg.org: http://www.opkg.org/posting_3.html Now, it is possible to add a source code link to every package. Many users asked for this feature, so I added it today. Regards, Tobias On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 01:02, David Reyes Samblas Martinez [EMAIL

Re: Service commands

2008-12-10 Thread Atilla Filiz
Are these Dbus signals? I am not familiar with the framework. Thanks On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Wednesday 10 December 2008 22:27:38 schrieb Atilla Filiz: Is there any work towards using service commands(maybe i'm using the wrong