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Re: Question about a file I am not aware

2008-12-20 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

I guess this question didn't re-circulate on the list for a while, so...

just look into

/opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf

to get better feeling of control over the situation ;-)


On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, "Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster" wrote:
> afaik it is autmatically created to index files that my be useful to 
> qtopia, you contacts are stored in the flash memory of you phone, not on 
> sdcard (see wiki: "Pre-Flash Backup" i don't remember the path, but it 
> is sth like /home/root/Documents and /home/root/Applications)
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Re: New 2008.12 Release

2008-12-20 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

guys -- looks for some email in the mailing list which described what
packages to remove to bring it to that desired low startup time... I
believe it is also described in wiki somewhere

I've done it on my FDOM + updates and it is indeed reasonably quick
(didn't measure exact timing though)

6 sec to press power should be improved imho -- there is no need for it
to be more than 3 sec (enough time imho to differ between Power->AUx, or
AUX -> Power presses to get into different UBoots)

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Vasco Névoa wrote:
> With OM2008.9/testing and ASU theme + gsm0710muxd service, it'  
> definitely around 60 seconds.

> > It's the faster i have seen on FR currently.
> Yep. :)

> > Maybe it's partly because (thanks to ;) ) QI?
> That should only make a difference in the first part of boot (until  
> the first kernel line) I think...



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Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

2008-12-20 Thread Dennis Wollersheim

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Hey Will

Can you tell me what you found out about the format? It also does not
import contacts from jpilot.

Cheers
Dennis

Will Siddall wrote:
> Hey,
> I know there's a wiki item for this, but I just have to send it to
> everyone.  I want to edit the wiki, but I don't know if anyone has run
> into this problem yet.
> 
> The wiki shows to install a VCF plugin for thunderbird then just
> import the VCF into your contacts app.  I had a lot of problems with
> this and actually found that the format of the VCF file doesn't match
> what 'addressbook' is looking for.
> 
> Instead, here are the steps I found to work and if anyone can confirm
> this, I will add it to the wiki.
> 
> 1: Export your addressbook/contacts to VCF file(s)
> 2: From your terminal, run:
> sed -r -e 's/;TYPE=([^,]+),([^:]+):/;\1;\2:/g' old.vcf > new.vcf
> 3: From your OpenMoko, run:
> addressbook new.vcf
> 
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[2008.12] Accelerometer latency

2008-12-20 Thread Charles-Henri Gros

When trying to read the accelerometers, it looks like no data is
received if there's a big change in acceleration.

e.g. if I hexdump /dev/input/event2, and start shaking the phone, output
stops.

Any ideas why this may be happening / how to fix it?

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Re: New 2008.12 Release

2008-12-20 Thread Pierre Lascar

Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 23:56 -0800, abatrour a écrit :
> Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now.
> 
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/

What is gta02v5-lowlevel.bin made for?




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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

> I have rebooted after formatting /dev/mmcblk0

/dev/mmcblk0 is the raw device, you want /dev/mmcblk0p1.
look at the output from fdisk ...

if it is still not there, your u-boot/kernel might be too old.
are there any messages at boot?

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Re: Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

> if I may ask an other question:
> how can I add new programs to zhone/freerunner: I would like to use an
> agenda, navigation prog (something like tomtom), and a today screen.


to zhone as such: not at all.
zhone is basically a sandbox to test features of fso.
so far it is the only frontend to place calls, read sim contacts and  
send/receive sms.

so, what you intend is achieved by installing a window/desktop manager,  
xfce seems to be the one widely used.
read
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
and the XFCE section in particular.
afterwards zhone runs as simple application.
for agenda osmo seems to be the one that fits best, it contains calendar,  
contacts management and so on -- but is in no way integrated with zhone,  
ie the contacts are not available there (there's a simple patch to zhone  
that makes it read the vcf-file of osmo, but that's for another day ;-)
navigation is possible via either tangogps or navit, while tangogps is in  
the debian repository there seems to be no debian/armel package available  
of navit (yet).
for both apps you need to install fso-gpsd.

debian uses apt, so that's the tool to install/uninstall/upgrade/search  
packages.
in /etc/apt/sources.list the repositories are listed -- unless you know  
what you do it is not recommended to fiddle with it.
the first step is usually to do

apt-get update

that updates the list of currently available packages and thus even allows  
to make upgrades:

apt-get upgrade

shows a list of packages for which newer versions are available and asks  
for confirmation

apt-get dist-upgrade

upgrades even crucial packages like the kernel.
to install a particular package (or several) use

apt-get install packagename

to find a specific package, say osmo, use

apt-cache search osmo

you get

gosmore - Openstreetmap.org viewer / wayfinder / search client
ifrit - a powerful tool for visualizing 3-dimensional data sets
liblua5.1-cosmo0 - A template library for the lua langua version 5.1
osmo - personal organizer for GTK+
osmo-dbg - Debugging symbols for osmo

easy to see that the package names are to the left.
you can even search for generic terms like

apt-cache search navigation

the list is much longer, but with the short description you might be able  
to filter and then do

apt-cache show packagename

for a more detailed description.
to uninstall you should use

apt-get purge packagename

purge removes even configfiles, if you want to keep them use remove  
instead.


the simpliest way for you should be

apt-get update && apt-get install nodm xfce4 osmo

configure according to the link above.

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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]


That's done, but it doesn't create the device for partition 1.

I have rebooted after formatting /dev/mmcblk0

I need to create the device nodes for the partitions before I can  
mount on it and I think

I should then format these devices before I mount.

Lothar

Am 21.12.2008 um 00:54 schrieb arne anka:


you need to format!
mke2fs is your friend.

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Re: Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

arne anka wrote:
> > can you 
> help me a little bit more please:
>> I have downloaded the python-evas from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
>> and I have been searching and reading about .deb and how to install 
>> them.
>> But I can't make out how to do it
>
> oh, just the usual debian way.
>
> for starters, the output of
> DISPLAY=:0 zhone
> would have been nice, to confirm it is really the issue i suspect.
Yes your right and yes it was the issue yuo suspected!
> if so the next step is to download both packages from their respective 
> locations and install via
> dpkg -i cython*deb
> dpkg -i python-evas*deb
> to be on the safe side, substitute the names with the full ones (don't 
> have them handy right now).
Ok this is what I needed (I'm not a debian user my flavor is Mandriva 
witch is using rpm.)

> if for some reason installation fails, because a dependency is 
> missing, apt-cache is helpful:
>
> apt-cache show libevas0
>
> produces the following output:
>
> Package: libevas0
> Priority: optional
> Section: libs
> Installed-Size: 848
> Maintainer: Debian Pkg-e Team 
> Architecture: armel
> Source: evas
> Version: 0.9.9.050-2
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libeet1 (>= 1.1.0), 
> libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libgcc1 (>= 
> 1:4.3), libgif4 (>= 4.1.6), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 
> 2.12.0), libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), librsvg2-2 (>= 2.18.1), 
> libtiff4, zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
> Recommends: libevas-engines
> Filename: pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
> Size: 260460
> MD5sum: d3106461470bf0ae680233797fdf43c0
> SHA1: 0dd27f6687b5a1ef7f19401f7515b1c3382e81aa
> SHA256: f0d2a47012992a0cd4dee98f1222891398403fb74cc197cebfb354a74e36c950
> Description: Enlightenment DR17 advanced canvas library
>  Evas is an advanced canvas library, providing six engines for 
> rendering: X11,
>  OpenGL (hardware accelerated), DirectFB, the framebuffer, Microsoft 
> Windows
>  and Qtopia.
>  .
>  Due to its simple API, evas can be developed with rapidly, and cleanly.
>  .
>  This package contains the core library and a set of image loaders 
> there  and/or savers
>  for various formats: eet, gif, jpeg, png, svg, tiff and xpm
> Homepage: http://www.enlightenment.org
>
No there is no need for this it installs fine and Zhone now is running.

> the line beginning with "Filename: " shows the path to the missing 
> package inside the repo, here
>
> pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
>
> if your installation is a default one, the repo will be
>
> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian
>
> so you have to point your browser/wget/whatever to
>
> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
>  
>
>
> this is rather informational! if you are not familiar with either dpkg 
> or apt, you should refrain from wildly installing and better ask here 
> together with the output from dpkg to get help!
>
>
> after that starting zhone should work -- if not, it's probably 
> another/additional error. starting zhone like said above in such cases 
> produces useful, nay, necessary output, so please append.
>
>
So zhone is now working fine. but I have a lot to learn thank you for 
pointing me in ther right direction.

if I may ask an other question:
how can I add new programs to zhone/freerunner: I would like to use an 
agenda, navigation prog (something like tomtom), and a today screen.

Thanks for helping me,

greetings

Jos
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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

you need to format!
mke2fs is your friend.

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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

Hi,

I have now also a 16 GB SD card (SanDisk/SDSDQ-016G-E11M)
but I didn't get it run with my ASU 2008/9 from Tue, 16 Sep 2008 and
uboot 1.3.2-moko12.

Here is the problem: After fisrt boot I couldn't use fdisk, because it
couldn't access anyhow.

Then after another reboot I was able to do it.

Here is my first partition:

r...@om-gta02:~# fdisk /dev/mmcblk0

The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1936.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 15.9 GB, 15931539456 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1936 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1 1 487 3911796 83 Linux

Command (m for help):

But I cannot mount it at /media/card because I haven't the device.

Isn't that device created automatically ?

How to create one (mknod, block type, but what mayor minor) ?

Thanks

Lothar

Am 10.11.2008 um 23:27 schrieb Marian Flor:

Am Montag, den 10.11.2008, 00:33 +0100 schrieb Lothar Behrens:

I had some more look about other cards about 8GB, but if there are
more users having success,
I will buy this card.

"The iPhone and the N810 support 16GB microSD so why shouldn't the
Openmoko?" was my guess and so I gave it a try.

Especially when the eaten MBR problem was only once a problem. Was
it ?

No. My MBR was never fragged (This would have been be fatal for me on
the next morning. Of course I mean the _card's_ MBR ;-) ). The
filesystem (ext2) got whacked by a suspend or "unsynced" halt command,
so that fdisk did not recover upon boot.

But I was able to fix the filesystem on the microSD by a manually
fdisk
from the other linux on the internal flash memory. Switching to ext3
may

also help, but make sure that your sd card supports wear leveling. In
the other case ext3 may shorten the lifecycle of the card. Also,
mounting the microSD with "-noatime" should lower the stress (and
extend

the lifetime) of the card.

Anyhow. It seems a good advice to keep a copy (printed or dd) of the
microSD's MBR in a warm and dry place apart from your Freerunner.

A kind closing note: Please place your answer _under_ the quoted text
next time.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#On_the_lists_on_lists.openmoko.org.2C_should_replies_be_added_above_or_below_the_original_text.3F

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Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

> can you help me a little bit more please:
> I have downloaded the python-evas from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
> and I have been searching and reading about .deb and how to install them.
> But I can't make out how to do it

oh, just the usual debian way.

for starters, the output of
DISPLAY=:0 zhone
would have been nice, to confirm it is really the issue i suspect.
if so the next step is to download both packages from their respective  
locations and install via
dpkg -i cython*deb
dpkg -i python-evas*deb
to be on the safe side, substitute the names with the full ones (don't  
have them handy right now).
if for some reason installation fails, because a dependency is missing,  
apt-cache is helpful:

apt-cache show libevas0

produces the following output:

Package: libevas0
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Installed-Size: 848
Maintainer: Debian Pkg-e Team 
Architecture: armel
Source: evas
Version: 0.9.9.050-2
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libeet1 (>= 1.1.0),  
libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.3),  
libgif4 (>= 4.1.6), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0),  
libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), librsvg2-2 (>= 2.18.1), libtiff4,  
zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
Recommends: libevas-engines
Filename: pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
Size: 260460
MD5sum: d3106461470bf0ae680233797fdf43c0
SHA1: 0dd27f6687b5a1ef7f19401f7515b1c3382e81aa
SHA256: f0d2a47012992a0cd4dee98f1222891398403fb74cc197cebfb354a74e36c950
Description: Enlightenment DR17 advanced canvas library
  Evas is an advanced canvas library, providing six engines for rendering:  
X11,
  OpenGL (hardware accelerated), DirectFB, the framebuffer, Microsoft  
Windows
  and Qtopia.
  .
  Due to its simple API, evas can be developed with rapidly, and cleanly.
  .
  This package contains the core library and a set of image loaders and/or  
savers
  for various formats: eet, gif, jpeg, png, svg, tiff and xpm
Homepage: http://www.enlightenment.org

the line beginning with "Filename: " shows the path to the missing package  
inside the repo, here

pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb

if your installation is a default one, the repo will be

http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian

so you have to point your browser/wget/whatever to

http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb

this is rather informational! if you are not familiar with either dpkg or  
apt, you should refrain from wildly installing and better ask here  
together with the output from dpkg to get help!


after that starting zhone should work -- if not, it's probably  
another/additional error. starting zhone like said above in such cases  
produces useful, nay, necessary output, so please append.

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Re: how to turn on screen blanking on 2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Abplanalp

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Will Siddall  wrote:
> If you would rather switch to the illume theme (you would have to
> update from testing), this will give you access to the illume 'wrench'
> that can allow you to set the time after which the screen blanks and
> then another time (or none) to have it go into suspend.

i'm not sure how to change the opkg config to point to testing.

> If you don't want to use testing, you can just install 'illume-config'
> which will give you the wrench

whenever i try to install illume-config, opkg tells me that
illume-theme-asu is installed and up to date:

r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install illume-config
Package illume-theme-asu (0.0+svnr4783-r7.04) installed in root is up to date.

it also looks like the illume theme is already installed, opkg
list_installed says:

illume-theme-illume - 0.0+svnr36882-r1.01 -

any help on either getting the wrench or activating the illume theme?

thanks,

-peter

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:01:51 +0100 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"
>  babbled:
>
>   
>> This always happens when we're starting to stabilize for a release. Last 
>> time 
>> it was something with a missing mimetypes postinst. Raster, any idea what it 
>> can be this time?
>> 
>
> icons display for me on my illume images, on desktop etc. etc. - so i'm on the
> "works for me" bandwagon (thus not answering these as i have no 'why' as i
> never saw it break). svnr37919 is the last svnr i built with OE
>
>   
Petr pointed it out quite good. The list time i tried SHR, the icons 
didn't show up.
I found out that this particular e configuration/version/wahtever was 
very picky, so i had to handcraft all .desktop files i needed.
i made them with touch and echo commands and it finally worked.
i cant give you any detailed infos, because it was quite some time ago.
all i can tell you is that Petr Vanek's hint is a good one and you 
should play around a little in that direction.

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread The Rasterman

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:01:51 +0100 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer"
 babbled:

> This always happens when we're starting to stabilize for a release. Last time 
> it was something with a missing mimetypes postinst. Raster, any idea what it 
> can be this time?

icons display for me on my illume images, on desktop etc. etc. - so i'm on the
"works for me" bandwagon (thus not answering these as i have no 'why' as i
never saw it break). svnr37919 is the last svnr i built with OE

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Re: [OM 2008.12] Show/hide wifi icon in OM2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Giorgio Marci

 Sorry :)

Any suggestion?

  - Original Message -
  From: Marcel
  To: "List for Openmoko community discussion"
  Subject: Re: [OM 2008.12] Show/hide wifi icon in OM2008.12
  Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:20:33 +0100


  Am Saturday 20 December 2008 23:06:21 schrieb Giorgio Marci:
  > How can i show/hide the icon in the bottom bar on OM2008.12? i want
  to
  > control this feature from a python app, is it possible?
  >
  > How dows it work? when i connect to an AP the icon magically appear
  but
  > if i disconnect (using iwconfig) it remain in the bar.
  >
  > thanks

  Please prefix your message with the distro you are using. :)

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Re: Question about a file I am not aware

Lothar Behrens schrieb:
> Yes, I have it installed on flash and not on SD card.
>
> But why is it there ?
>
> Is it a copy, backup ?
>
> Lothar
>
> Am 20.12.2008 um 21:06 schrieb Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster:
>
>> Lothar Behrens schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have got my new 16 GB SD card after waiting sometime and reading
>>> other success stories :-)
>>>
>>> Now I like to backup the data from my old SD card, but I don't know
>>> for what this file is for:
>>>
>>> /media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite
>>>
>>> What application sits on it to stop before making an backup, because
>>> it seems to be a sqlite database :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Lothar
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>> it is what it says: a qtopia database (contacts, qtopia apps,
>> messages)... although on the sd card.. probably decuments, apps... i am
>> quite sure you can delete that, since the contacts are storen on flash
>> (you do have installed you os on flash, right?!)
afaik it is autmatically created to index files that my be useful to 
qtopia, you contacts are stored in the flash memory of you phone, not on 
sdcard (see wiki: "Pre-Flash Backup" i don't remember the path, but it 
is sth like /home/root/Documents and /home/root/Applications)


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Re: [OM 2008.12] Show/hide wifi icon in OM2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Marcel

Am Saturday 20 December 2008 23:06:21 schrieb Giorgio Marci:
> How can i show/hide the icon in the bottom bar on OM2008.12? i want to
> control this feature from a python app, is it possible?
>
> How dows it work? when i connect to an AP the icon magically appear but
> if i disconnect (using iwconfig) it remain in the bar.
>
> thanks

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread Petr Vanek


>   r...@om-gta02:~# cat ./.e/e/appshadow/.desktop
>   [Desktop Entry]
>   Name=Calculator
>   Name[fr]=Calculatrice
>   Name[it]=Calcolatrice
>   Name[ru]=Калькулятор
>   Name[sv]=Miniräknare
>   Comment=Perform simple calculations
>   Encoding=UTF-8
>   Version=1.0
>   Type=Application
>   Exec=openmoko-calculator
>   Icon=openmoko-calculator
>   Terminal=false
>   Categories=GTK;Applications;Office
>   SingleInstance=true
>   StartupNotify=true
>   Categories=Office;
>

i have seen this on SHR with navit update: when an application had all
these multilingual lines such a Name[fr]=Calculatrice, the icon would
not be shown, but as soon as you edit it and remove those lines at
least in SHR this helped...

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Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

Arne,

thanks for replying!

can you help me a little bit more please:
I have downloaded the python-evas from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
and I have been searching and reading about .deb and how to install them.
But I can't make out how to do it

So please can you teach me or direct me to a howto or so?

Hope to hear (and learn) from you,

greetings

Jos.


arne anka wrote:
> please, 
> prefix _very_ posting with name of the ditribution, you are using -- 
> make it people easy to help you!
> additionally, the best way to get support for deb...@fr would be the 
> smartphones-lists instead.
>
>
>> Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
>> question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.
>
> installing kde, just because zhone does not start is ... strange.
> for a device so limited kde is rather an overkill -- and it will 
> certainly not help you, to explore the phone facilities!
>
> if zhone does not start, the first thing is, to log in via ssh and 
> start zhone manually doing
> DISPLAY=:0 zhone
> this should give some usefull output you could post here.
> most certainly you are bitten by a bug that seems not yet to be 
> properly addressed: cython and python-evas of debian/sid does not play 
> well together, the packages are available either in any debian repos
> http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/cython/cython_0.9.6.13.1-1_all.deb
>  
>
> and
> http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
> respectively (just be carefully they don't get overwritten by any 
> update or reinstall those packages afterwards until the bug is fixed).
>
> next thing: please read the debian freerunner wiki and the arcihves 
> thoroughly, there are several postings or articles explaining what to 
> do when installing a real desktop manager like xfce and that you 
> should use nodm as [k|x|g]dm replacement.

>
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Show/hide wifi icon in OM2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Giorgio Marci

How can i show/hide the icon in the bottom bar on OM2008.12? i want to
control this feature from a python app, is it possible?

How dows it work? when i connect to an AP the icon magically appear but
if i disconnect (using iwconfig) it remain in the bar.

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer

This always happens when we're starting to stabilize for a release. Last time 
it was something with a missing mimetypes postinst. Raster, any idea what it 
can be this time?

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Re: Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 70

2008-12-20 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer

Please unsubscribe this guy.

Oguz, if you are on a mailing list, you better change your subscription 
options before going on vacation.

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Re: Question about a file I am not aware


Yes, I have it installed on flash and not on SD card.

But why is it there ?

Is it a copy, backup ?

Lothar

Am 20.12.2008 um 21:06 schrieb Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster:


Lothar Behrens schrieb:

Hi,

I have got my new 16 GB SD card after waiting sometime and reading
other success stories :-)

Now I like to backup the data from my old SD card, but I don't know
for what this file is for:

/media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite

What application sits on it to stop before making an backup, because
it seems to be a sqlite database :-)

Thanks

Lothar

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it is what it says: a qtopia database (contacts, qtopia apps,
messages)... although on the sd card.. probably decuments, apps... i  
am

quite sure you can delete that, since the contacts are storen on flash
(you do have installed you os on flash, right?!)

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Selected questions to Sean

2008-12-20 Thread Minh Ha Duong

Dear Sean,

  I received a great number of responses, most containing 3-10 questions. So I 
cheated a bit, and in this selection of 10 points most are actually multiple 
questions.

Q1. The end of the year is a time to look back on the year achievements.
So where does Openmoko stands now from a business point of view ?
Could you comment on sustainability, on sales numbers, on geographic markets
and customer categories ?

Q2. The god of January has two faces, one looking back and one looking 
forward, so...
Juergen, Eric in Japan and practically everybody else
want to know when will the GTA03 phone be released,
if it will have 3G/3.5G, a camera and the kitchen sink.
Can you tell us anything yet ? Where do you want Openmoko to be in December 
2009 ?

Q3. The mandatory dogfood question was submitted by Yorik Moko:
"Do you use the FreeRunner as your daily phone, which distro
and what is your favorite application ?"

Q4. Todd would like to know exactly what are your feelings about Android
and its impact on the OpenMoko OS.

Q5. Kosa and Marco wondered if you could say us something about the management 
that doesn't seem
to be loved by great hackers like Harald and Carsten. For example, what is 
your analysis of
the controversies that led Om2008 to ship with Qtopia's predictive keyboard.

Q6. There are many Openmoko communities in languages other than English now.
Swap38 asks how can they best contribute back to the project,
and if there are plans to organize the diversity around a common model,
as OpenOffice.org did for example. What is the status of the 
internationalization
and localization effort ?

Q7. Let's be reflexive, kind of "we have to talk about our relationship, 
dear".
Tilman, supported by Michelle, wonders to which extend the community has met 
your expectations.
More precisely, could you name an area where it did not, perhaps
like an application that you would have expected be written already ?

Q8. On the other hand, Tim and others would like to know 
the most interesting or fun thing you have seen the Freerunner used for ?

Q9. And where do you think could any person do the most for the project right 
now? Think of if that person would be ideal and have all the skills needed.
And then, which skills are in most need right now and in the future?

Q10. To conclude, can we have a video of you in Openmoko T-shirt and geek-cap,
having a phone chat with star hackers, using Neo FreeRunners at both ends,
telling each other your favourite Freerunner joke ? Please ?

Thanks everybody for taking the time to ask these questions,
and thanks if advance for your replies,
Minh
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Attached: All the questions received.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Minh Ha Duong  wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
>  Sean kindly agreed to be interviewed for the next edition of the Community
> Update newsletter. I invite every subscriber of this list to post the
> question or questions that s-he cares about most. No gloves. The general
> topic is "Openmoko, the community, past-present-future", but yours truly will
> select with undue care the 3-5 most interesting / provocative / popular /
> relevant / funny / whatever and forward them to Sean next Monday. You may
> send your questions in this mailing list thread or privately to me.
>
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1. From: "Yorick Moko" 

* It's still more reliable and easy to use a 20EUR cellphone than use
the FR as a daily phone, more than six months after Openmoko said it
was mass market ready. I love the FR, but should we admit that some
things really went wrong? (for example working on a graphical
installer app before telephony worked fine, or when everyone was
craving for the qwerty button (I never heard even one user who said he
didn't want it) and nobody listened? Will things change?

*do you use the FR? As your daily phone? Why not? Which distro do you
prefer? Which app is your favorite?

*how many FR's haven been sold? (if possible some statistics with
regards to continents/countries)

* _guess_ the ETA of GTA03

* show us a funny pic of you in a openmoko t-shirt and geek-cap
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2. From: Tim Dobson 

What phone is in your pocket right now?
What distro is it running? Why?
What do you use your phone for the most?
What distros have you tried?
What other portable consumer electronics do you use on a regular basis?
Who in the community, after yourself, deserves praise for their 
achievements which might otherwise go unnoticed?
What is the most pointless application on the Freerunner?
What is the most interesting thing you have seen the Freerunner used for?
Which is your favourite Freerunner joke?
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3. From: Kosa 

I first know from openmoko reading  Harald's Welte blog [1] two years ago, and
after some reading I thought Openmoko was a

Re: Apple OS X 10.5.6 crashes when FR connected....

2008-12-20 Thread Boštjan Jerko


On 20.12.2008, at 22:20, error wrote:

>
> I just upgraded to OS X 10.5.6 and now when I connect my FR my  
> system panics.
> Anyone seeing the same issue?  Below is the kernel panic report.
>
> Tried to upgrade to the latest AJZaurus driver but it didn't help.
> ---

It works on my Macbook (the same OSX).

B.

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Apple OS X 10.5.6 crashes when FR connected....

2008-12-20 Thread error


I just upgraded to OS X 10.5.6 and now when I connect my FR my system panics. 
Anyone seeing the same issue?  Below is the kernel panic report.

Tried to upgrade to the latest AJZaurus driver but it didn't help.
---

Sat Dec 20 14:55:40 2008
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x0039CC8B): "m_free: freeing an already freed
mbuf"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1228.9.59/bsd/kern/uipc_mbuf.c:3575
Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x2eb1fdf8 : 0x12b4f3 (0x45b13c 0x2eb1fe2c 0x1335e4 0x0) 
0x2eb1fe48 : 0x39cc8b (0x493ef0 0xf4240 0x2eb1fe68 0x5da) 
0x2eb1fec8 : 0x34912703 (0x30733400 0x30733400 0x0 0x636f900) 
0x2eb1fee8 : 0x5e5678 (0x5da 0x30733400 0x0 0x3ece2f) 
0x2eb1ff18 : 0x5e550c (0x636d000 0x63662f0 0x2eb1ff3c 0x6366797) 
0x2eb1ff58 : 0x5e561a (0x636d000 0x23ac6252 0x2eb1ff78 0x1a336f) 
0x2eb1ff78 : 0x13eed2 (0x636d000 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
0x2eb1ffc8 : 0x1a017c (0x0 0x0 0x1a30b5 0x4d48a60) 
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0
  Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
 net.lucid-cake.driver.AJZaurusUSB(0.5.5)@0x34911000->0x3491afff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0x5d6000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(3.2.7)@0x596000
 com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0x5d6000->0x5ebfff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
9G55

Kernel version:
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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson

Joel Newkirk wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:06:26 +0100, Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson 
> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>>I'm running a home-built installation of fso-testing-image on my
>> Freerunner (GTA02v5). I update ($ make update) my installation atleast
>> twice a week. For some time I haven't seen the program icons in Illume.
>> I've tried to remove the .e/-directory without success. I've even
>> reflashed the phone with both new kernel-images and *rootfs*.jffs-images.
>>
>>Zhone starts allright and I can switch to the other desktops but I
>> never see the icons I once saw. Enlightenment says it sees '17 files'
>> when starting but yet, no icons.
>>
>>Does anyone know a) why, b) how to fix it.
>>
>> --
>> ex animo
>> - Ingi
> 
> Just a guess based on a known 'problem': Check the .desktop files in
> /usr/share/applications.  Take a look at the "categories" entries in the
> .desktop files, and if you see "application", try changing it to
> "applications".
> 
> j
> 
   Thank you Joel for your prompt reply. I edited all the .desktop-files 
in /usr/share/applications to read 'Applications' instead of 
'Application' in the 'Categories' entry but to no avail. Once again I 
stopped the X-server, removed the .e/ .local/ Desktop/ directories and 
restarted the X-server, but still same result i.e. no icons.

   Searching for all .desktop-files reveals some in 
.e/e/appshadow-directory. Some of them have multiple 
'Categories'-entries ! Here's the one representing the Calculator:

   r...@om-gta02:~# cat ./.e/e/appshadow/.desktop
   [Desktop Entry]
   Name=Calculator
   Name[fr]=Calculatrice
   Name[it]=Calcolatrice
   Name[ru]=Калькулятор
   Name[sv]=Miniräknare
   Comment=Perform simple calculations
   Encoding=UTF-8
   Version=1.0
   Type=Application
   Exec=openmoko-calculator
   Icon=openmoko-calculator
   Terminal=false
   Categories=GTK;Applications;Office
   SingleInstance=true
   StartupNotify=true
   Categories=Office;

   I guess that these files are generated from somewhere so editing them 
isn't going to help...

   Maybe Rasterman can shed some light on this ?

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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek

Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote:
[...]
> Not that i think it has much to do with your error, but you do know how 
> windows handles ssh?
> (the answer is: not at all, because windows doesn't know ssh or anything 
> alse that is absolutely fundemantal regarding networking, so you have to 
> use puTTY, although, the program should at least start..)
> i goint to try it out tomorrow under vista and under debian

The program uses paramiko library so one doesn't need ssh client binary.

om-manager is nice. I was about to write something similar - like a
"host computer utility" in python (but using Tkinter instead of wx)
which connects to Freerunner and executes commands however "mine" was
intended to mimic Debian's reportbug utility. Right now we have so many
distributions, bootloaders and kernels that sometimes it's hard to
reproduce the environment. I'm thinking about automation of gathering
informations about a bug process. `uname -a`, `opkg list_installed` `cat
/sys/magic/something`. If you don't mind Ilja I'll try to use your
om-manager as a base for my work.

As I see om-manager is plugins-capable so I hope all I want to achieve
will be only a plugin for your program.

;-) Well. That's just a plan for Christmas holidays...

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread Joel Newkirk

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:06:26 +0100, Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson 
wrote:
> Hi
> 
>I'm running a home-built installation of fso-testing-image on my
> Freerunner (GTA02v5). I update ($ make update) my installation atleast
> twice a week. For some time I haven't seen the program icons in Illume.
> I've tried to remove the .e/-directory without success. I've even
> reflashed the phone with both new kernel-images and *rootfs*.jffs-images.
> 
>Zhone starts allright and I can switch to the other desktops but I
> never see the icons I once saw. Enlightenment says it sees '17 files'
> when starting but yet, no icons.
> 
>Does anyone know a) why, b) how to fix it.
> 
> --
> ex animo
> - Ingi

Just a guess based on a known 'problem': Check the .desktop files in
/usr/share/applications.  Take a look at the "categories" entries in the
.desktop files, and if you see "application", try changing it to
"applications".

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[FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson

Hi

   I'm running a home-built installation of fso-testing-image on my 
Freerunner (GTA02v5). I update ($ make update) my installation atleast 
twice a week. For some time I haven't seen the program icons in Illume. 
I've tried to remove the .e/-directory without success. I've even 
reflashed the phone with both new kernel-images and *rootfs*.jffs-images.

   Zhone starts allright and I can switch to the other desktops but I 
never see the icons I once saw. Enlightenment says it sees '17 files' 
when starting but yet, no icons.

   Does anyone know a) why, b) how to fix it.

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Re: Question about a file I am not aware

Lothar Behrens schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I have got my new 16 GB SD card after waiting sometime and reading 
> other success stories :-)
>
> Now I like to backup the data from my old SD card, but I don't know 
> for what this file is for:
>
> /media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite
>
> What application sits on it to stop before making an backup, because 
> it seems to be a sqlite database :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Lothar
>
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> 
> Lothar Behrens
> Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2
> 73252 Lenningen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
it is what it says: a qtopia database (contacts, qtopia apps, 
messages)... although on the sd card.. probably decuments, apps... i am 
quite sure you can delete that, since the contacts are storen on flash 
(you do have installed you os on flash, right?!)

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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

Yorick Moko schrieb:
> downloaded the 2.6.1 and now i get:
>
> F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 7, in 
> from app import logger, gui
> ImportError: No module named app
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Al Johnson
>  wrote:
>   
>> You probably need Python 2.x as 3.0 has some major changes which cause code
>> written for 2.x to fail. IIRC the print syntax is one of those changes.
>> Follow the link if you want to see the details.
>>
>> http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html
>>
>> On Saturday 20 December 2008, Yorick Moko wrote:
>> 
>>> I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
>>> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
>>> but when i try to run it I get
>>>
>>> F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
>>>   File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 78
>>> print usage
>>>   ^
>>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>>
>>> I'm probably doing something wrong.
>>>
>>> y
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ilja O.  wrote:
>>>   
 Hello.

 I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version
 of om-manager.

 Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility.
 Currently it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required),
 get logs, backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also
 it implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC
 (x11vnc package on phone is required). All functionality (except
 Flashing) is implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any
 extra programs installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to
 perform specefied tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole
 application is pure Python.

 Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/

 Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really
 happy to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability,
 functionality or coding style.

 It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it
 alone.

 I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
 defined as "officially supported operating systems".

 Thank you.

Not that i think it has much to do with your error, but you do know how 
windows handles ssh?
(the answer is: not at all, because windows doesn't know ssh or anything 
alse that is absolutely fundemantal regarding networking, so you have to 
use puTTY, although, the program should at least start..)
i goint to try it out tomorrow under vista and under debian

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Question about a file I am not aware


Hi,

I have got my new 16 GB SD card after waiting sometime and reading  
other success stories :-)


Now I like to backup the data from my old SD card, but I don't know  
for what this file is for:


/media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite

What application sits on it to stop before making an backup, because  
it seems to be a sqlite database :-)


Thanks

Lothar

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Re: how to turn on screen blanking on 2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Will Siddall

If you would rather switch to the illume theme (you would have to
update from testing), this will give you access to the illume 'wrench'
that can allow you to set the time after which the screen blanks and
then another time (or none) to have it go into suspend.

If you don't want to use testing, you can just install 'illume-config'
which will give you the wrench

The 'wrench' is found in the top shelf when you drop it down.  It'll
be in the top-left corner.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Peter Abplanalp
 wrote:
> i can't use suspend due to wsod but 2008.12 doesn't seem to blank the
> screen by default.  is there any way for me to turn this on?  ideally,
> i'd like to have suspend turned off and have the screen blank after
> about a minute or so.
>
> thanks,
>
> -peter
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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Yorick Moko

downloaded the 2.6.1 and now i get:

F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 7, in 
from app import logger, gui
ImportError: No module named app

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Al Johnson
 wrote:
> You probably need Python 2.x as 3.0 has some major changes which cause code
> written for 2.x to fail. IIRC the print syntax is one of those changes.
> Follow the link if you want to see the details.
>
> http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html
>
> On Saturday 20 December 2008, Yorick Moko wrote:
>> I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
>> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
>> but when i try to run it I get
>>
>> F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
>>   File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 78
>> print usage
>>   ^
>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>
>> I'm probably doing something wrong.
>>
>> y
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ilja O.  wrote:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version
>> > of om-manager.
>> >
>> > Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility.
>> > Currently it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required),
>> > get logs, backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also
>> > it implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC
>> > (x11vnc package on phone is required). All functionality (except
>> > Flashing) is implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any
>> > extra programs installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to
>> > perform specefied tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole
>> > application is pure Python.
>> >
>> >
>> > Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/
>> >
>> > Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really
>> > happy to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability,
>> > functionality or coding style.
>> >
>> > It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it
>> > alone.
>> >
>> > I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
>> > defined as "officially supported operating systems".
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
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how to turn on screen blanking on 2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Abplanalp

i can't use suspend due to wsod but 2008.12 doesn't seem to blank the
screen by default.  is there any way for me to turn this on?  ideally,
i'd like to have suspend turned off and have the screen blank after
about a minute or so.

thanks,

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[debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

please, prefix _very_ posting with name of the ditribution, you are using  
-- make it people easy to help you!
additionally, the best way to get support for deb...@fr would be the  
smartphones-lists instead.


> Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
> question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.

installing kde, just because zhone does not start is ... strange.
for a device so limited kde is rather an overkill -- and it will certainly  
not help you, to explore the phone facilities!

if zhone does not start, the first thing is, to log in via ssh and start  
zhone manually doing
DISPLAY=:0 zhone
this should give some usefull output you could post here.
most certainly you are bitten by a bug that seems not yet to be properly  
addressed: cython and python-evas of debian/sid does not play well  
together, the packages are available either in any debian repos
http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/cython/cython_0.9.6.13.1-1_all.deb
and
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
respectively (just be carefully they don't get overwritten by any update  
or reinstall those packages afterwards until the bug is fixed).

next thing: please read the debian freerunner wiki and the arcihves  
thoroughly, there are several postings or articles explaining what to do  
when installing a real desktop manager like xfce and that you should use  
nodm as [k|x|g]dm replacement.

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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Al Johnson

You probably need Python 2.x as 3.0 has some major changes which cause code 
written for 2.x to fail. IIRC the print syntax is one of those changes. 
Follow the link if you want to see the details.

http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html

On Saturday 20 December 2008, Yorick Moko wrote:
> I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
> but when i try to run it I get
>
> F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
>   File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 78
> print usage
>   ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>
> I'm probably doing something wrong.
>
> y
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ilja O.  wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version
> > of om-manager.
> >
> > Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility.
> > Currently it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required),
> > get logs, backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also
> > it implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC
> > (x11vnc package on phone is required). All functionality (except
> > Flashing) is implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any
> > extra programs installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to
> > perform specefied tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole
> > application is pure Python.
> >
> >
> > Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/
> >
> > Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really
> > happy to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability,
> > functionality or coding style.
> >
> > It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it
> > alone.
> >
> > I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
> > defined as "officially supported operating systems".
> >
> > Thank you.
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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Yorick Moko

I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
but when i try to run it I get

F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app>run.py
  File "F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py", line 78
print usage
  ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

I'm probably doing something wrong.

y

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ilja O.  wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version of
> om-manager.
>
> Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility. Currently
> it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required), get logs,
> backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also it
> implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC (x11vnc
> package on phone is required). All functionality (except Flashing) is
> implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any extra programs
> installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to perform specefied
> tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole application is pure Python.
>
>
> Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/
>
> Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really happy
> to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability, functionality
> or coding style.
>
> It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it alone.
>
> I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
> defined as "officially supported operating systems".
>
> Thank you.
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Re: starting kde on debian

2008-12-20 Thread Evgeny

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Jos vd Snepscheut  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
> question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.
Hi.
IMHO KDE is little beet heavy for FR.
to edit your ~/.xsession file.
But first try read trough http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
maybe it'll help


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starting kde on debian

Hello,

Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.

Thanks,

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[Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

2008-12-20 Thread swap38

Hi all,

I've just flashed my neo with Om2008.12 with (jffs2, uImage and u-Boot 
md5sums are OK, neotool didn't report any error => everything is OK)

First surprise : there's no wifi option
Second surprise : I can't ping 192.168.0.202 (so I can't connect to it 
with ssh)

I think the problem is not related to my PC because when I reboot to 
QtExtended (on the SD card), everything works well (ping, ssh and so on 
...).
And I'm not alone in that case [1].

Anybody else with that kind of issue ? Any solution ?
Thanks in advance

/Swap38

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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Paul Fertser

Hi,

Timo Juhani Lindfors  writes:
> Paul Fertser  writes:
>> echo s3c2440-sdi > /sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi/driver/unbind
>
> Aha, so this should reduce power consumption?

As far as i understand it is as effective as sending the magic ioctl
and equally effective to suspending the whole device.

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Re: Your favorite ringtones? (especially .sid?)

Tobias Diedrich schrieb:
> e...@ericanddebbie.com wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>> I'm looking for a new ringtone (I like the arkanoid theme, but I need  
>> a change).  If you have one you like, could you let me (us) know?
>>
>> Tobias mentions a place to find .sids in his email below -- I just  
>> couldn't go through all of them.
>> 
>
> I'm using
> http://www.8bitpeoples.com/mp3/get/432/8bp069-01-she-nebula.mp3
> from 8bitpeoples album 069.
>   
I am using the metal gear solid codec ringone (ask google where to get 
it, i don't remember)

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Re: New 2008.12 Release

2008-12-20 Thread swap38

Antony King a écrit :
> I've copied those files to our UK mirror here:
>
> http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Mirrors
>
> Openmoko haven't supplied MD5s for the images; here's what I make them:
>
> 4ade0b3d3210ec9e9bf34bc694f0dd47  gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin
> e9cc57e863b63abfd593f97b19801b34  gta01bv4-u-boot.bin
> 1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3  gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
> 7f2f26e53fc787450f84286d9f0726cf  gta02v5-lowlevel.bin
> a1ba1806ced7b6b7791802d654514ce8  Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
> 48dc258d9e342fc8b2453457b7179907  Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
> 6b1e33f3e83034613d33a1a3583bdac4  Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin
>
> If anyone from OM or elsewhere sees any different to those, please let us 
> know !
>
> Antony.
>   

Same md5 for me (I didn't downloaded the rest) :

1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
6b1e33f3e83034613d33a1a3583bdac4 Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin
a1ba1806ced7b6b7791802d654514ce8 Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

Maybe you can you put that somewhere on the wiki ?

Johann.

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ZOMG! new version (in case somebody cares)

fixed one annoying bug
speeded up the whole thing a little bit (overall performance should now 
be *slightly* better)
...so no feaures added, but since i am currently sick and therefore not 
going to work for a few days i managed to find some time to clean up the 
code a little (the project is still work in progress)

for dl/update instructions please refer to the wki page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ZOMG!#Update_20.2F12.2F2008

tested on om2008.testing and it works flawlessly

i'm considering a rewrite from opkg-frontend to jni using libopkg... if 
soemone can point me to a decent libopkg api documentation...


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Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-20 Thread François TOURDE

Le 14231ième jour après Epoch,
Marcel écrivait:

>> > Nearly every network I know uses 192.168.1.*, so the default is perfectly
>> > fine... Although something like 192.168.64.* could be statistically more
>> > failsafe.
>>
>> Actually in that case I would avoid all powers of two. A higher prime
>> number, like 97, might be a good choice...
>
> I just typed some random numbers > 1 to get to the safer side... :)

Did you mean hacker's random values are always powers of 2 ;)

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Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-20 Thread François TOURDE

Le 14230ième jour après Epoch,
Lothar Behrens écrivait:

> Am 17.12.2008 um 13:16 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
>
>> Lothar Behrens  writes:
>>> Is there a way to do this ?
>>
>> while true; do
>>  if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then
>>  alert
>>  fi
>>  sleep 120
>> done
>>
>
> this is a starting point :-)

I've a small script that works as a daemon, checking interval depends
on the charge (described on a file), play sounds (except when
charging) depending on the current charge.

There is no doc, no install proc, it's not packaged, but it can be
done easily...

The config file (default values in the script) contains:

  # Les différents niveaux
  THRESHOLDS="100:20:1200: 20:10:600:low 10:5:150:critical 5:0:30:emergency"

Each group of check parms is max:min:delay:sound

If level is between (_max_,_min_), the "aplay" _sound_.wav and wait _delay_
for next check.

Hope it helps.

#!/bin/sh
#
# Start or stop the bat alarm Daemon.
#
# Written by Francois TOURDE 
#

[ -f /etc/default/batalarm ] && . /etc/default/batalarm

case "$1" in
start)
echo -n "Starting batalarm daemon: "
start-stop-daemon -S -p /var/run/batalarm.pid -m -x /usr/bin/batalarm &
if [ $? = 0 ]; then
echo "batalarm."
else
echo "(failed.)"
fi
;;
stop)
echo -n "Stopping batalarm daemon: "
start-stop-daemon -K -p /var/run/batalarm.pid &
echo "batalarm."
;;
restart|force-reload)
$0 stop
$0 start
exit
;;
*)
echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/batalarm {start|stop|restart|force-reload}"
exit 1
;;
esac

exit 0
#!/bin/sh
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
# Batalarm - An application to check bat
#
# Version 0.1
#
# Authors: Francois TOURDE 
#
# Copyright (c) 2008 François TOURDE
#
# batalarm is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
# under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
# Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or (at your
# option) any later version.
#
# batalarm is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
# WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
# General Public License for more details.
#
# TODO
#
# Change List
#
# 2008-11-17: First release

# First, the default values:
BAT_CAPACITY=/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/capacity
BAT_PLUGGED=/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/online
BAT_ALERT=/usr/share/batalarm/sounds/
SLEEP_INIT=600
#
# Les différents niveaux
THRESHOLDS="100:20:1200: 20:10:600:low 10:5:150:critical 5:0:30:emergency"
[ -f /etc/default/batalarm ] && . /etc/default/batalarm

while true
do
  v=$(cat $BAT_CAPACITY)
  for t in $THRESHOLDS
  do
t=$(echo $t|sed -e 's/:/ /g')
max=$(echo $t|awk '{print $1}')
min=$(echo $t|awk '{print $2}')
next=$(echo $t|awk '{print $3}')
file=$(echo $t|awk '{print $4}')

if [ $v -le $max -a $v -gt $min ]
then
  SLEEP_VAL=$next
  ALERT_FILE=$file
  break;
fi
  done

  [ ! -z $ALERT_FILE ] && [ $(cat $BAT_PLUGGED) != 1 ] && aplay ${BAT_ALERT}${ALERT_FILE}".wav"
  sleep $SLEEP_VAL
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om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Ilja O.

Hello.

I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version of
om-manager.

Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility. Currently
it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required), get logs,
backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also it
implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC (x11vnc
package on phone is required). All functionality (except Flashing) is
implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any extra programs
installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to perform specefied
tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole application is pure Python.


Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/

Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really happy
to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability, functionality
or coding style.

It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it alone.

I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
defined as "officially supported operating systems".

Thank you.
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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors

Paul Fertser  writes:
> echo s3c2440-sdi > /sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi/driver/unbind

Aha, so this should reduce power consumption?

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Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-20 Thread Alexey Feldgendler

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:26:01 +0100, William Kenworthy   
wrote:

 169.254.0.0/16 is probably more appropriate because this range is  
 assigned to link-local addresses.

>>> Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a
>>> link-local address?
>>> * Pick a random address
>>> * check that it is free (arp, ping,...)
>>> * take it.

That would be reinventing some wheels. See below for standardized  
solutions.

>>> That has a good chance of working, even for those who
>>> routinely connect two phones to the same pc at the same time.

>> This would make it way harder to communicate with the freerunner.
>> For now you know you can reach it at 192.168.0.202 and most of the
>> documentations builds on this. So figuring out the ip address FR has
>> chosen is way harder, especially for newbies.

> Not if its handled right.

One possible way to handle it right would be:

1. Try DHCP first. If a DHCP server gives us an address, use it and skip  
to step 3.
2. Grab a link-local IP address via IPv4LL (RFC 3927). This is even  
supported by default by both Windows >= 98 and MacOS >= 8, as well as in  
many Linux distributions, so it's as simple as plugging the device in.
3. If we have a DNS address from step 1, use it and skip to step 5.
4. Try discovering a DNS server using DNS-SD and use one if discovered.
5. Advertise through mDNS a user-configurable name defaulting to something  
like openmoko.local.
6. Advertise relevant services through mDNS, such as ssh, sftp-ssh,  
clipboard (would be nice, eh?), sip/h323 (why not?).
7. If we have a router address from step 1, skip to step 9.
8. Try some router discovery protocol (UPnP, SSDP?).

Most of this is fulfilled by using avahi , so it seems  
like a good choice. From a user's point of view, the device will never  
cause routing problems and always be accessible at a fixed host name, even  
without a domain name server.

Alternatively, the phone itself can run a DHCP server after step 1 and  
assign an IP address to the peer, as well as run a DNS server. That way,  
plugging the phone with GPRS enabled into a Windows machine will  
automatically provide it with Internet connectivity.

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Re: Re: debian on freerunner

Hello Andy and Michael,

Thank you for your answers.

No I did not use Qi=true!!!
But now I did and debian is now up and running from SD!

and now there is a new question:

I do get an X screen with icons on the top level but there is no Zhone 
(just a grey screen no desktop) how can I get one.

thank and greetings,

Jos


Michael wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
>   
>> I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:
>> wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
>> 
> with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ?
>
>   
>> on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
>> in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin
>> 
> this files should be in /boot/boot.
>
>   
>> did this all by following the debian wikki
>> 
> ...
> debian-gta02:~# cd /boot 
> debian-gta02:/boot# mkdir boot 
> debian-gta02:/boot# ln -s ../uImage.bin boot/uImage-GTA02.bin 
> debian-gta02:/boot# echo "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 loglevel=8" 
> >boot/append-GTA02
> ...
>
> greets 
> Michael
>
>
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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread kimaidou

@ Rakshat: Thanks, I just tried defora editor. I works great for creating
new text files and open the one created with defora. But I have tried to
open .txt files written with Scite and nothing happened... I will try again.
Perhaps it is a utf8 or other type pbm ?

@Davide : I could not find leafpad in the official repositories, nor in
opkg.org. Do you have a link to some package ?

2008/12/20 rakshat hooja 

> sorry ipk link
>
> http://www.opkg.org/packages/deforaos-editor_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:40 PM, rakshat hooja  wrote:
>
>> have not tried this (deforaos-editor) but it may work
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Your favorite ringtones? (especially .sid?)

2008-12-20 Thread Tobias Diedrich

e...@ericanddebbie.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm looking for a new ringtone (I like the arkanoid theme, but I need  
> a change).  If you have one you like, could you let me (us) know?
> 
> Tobias mentions a place to find .sids in his email below -- I just  
> couldn't go through all of them.

I'm using
http://www.8bitpeoples.com/mp3/get/432/8bp069-01-she-nebula.mp3
from 8bitpeoples album 069.

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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Paul Fertser

Hi,

Timo Juhani Lindfors  writes:
>> That's not good.
>> Is there another way to get the wlan status with help of a console
>> command like dbus or anything else?
>
> I am not sure. There's an ioctl but it seems to give different results
> than the power_on sysfs node.

It was recently clarified on kernel ml that the power_on wlan node
actually applies reset to the chip. Therefore nobody should really use
it. Either the magic ioctl or binding/unbinding the driver works.

echo s3c2440-sdi > /sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi/driver/unbind

and

echo s3c2440-sdi > /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/bind

can be used for the time being.

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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread rakshat hooja

sorry ipk link

http://www.opkg.org/packages/deforaos-editor_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:40 PM, rakshat hooja  wrote:

> have not tried this (deforaos-editor) but it may work
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread rakshat hooja

have not tried this (deforaos-editor) but it may work
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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread Davide Scaini

try leafpad... i guess it may be perfect...
d

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Sam Kuper  wrote:

> 2008/12/20 kimaidou :
> > Thanks for your reply. I am currently using SHR, and a opkg update + opkg
> > install gvim did not work. Where can I find the gvim package please ?
>
> Hmm, I don't have a Freerunner myself (yet), but I do use Debian on
> other machines. It's definitely possible to get gvim in Debian.[1]
>
> I guess if you want to use it in a distro that doesn't have a package
> for it, it looks like you'd have to do some manual config/installation
> that I haven't tried, so perhaps other people would be better placed
> to offer advice on that front.[2]
>
> [1]http://packages.debian.org/etch/gvim
> [2]http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/gui_x11.html
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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread Sam Kuper

2008/12/20 kimaidou :
> Thanks for your reply. I am currently using SHR, and a opkg update + opkg
> install gvim did not work. Where can I find the gvim package please ?

Hmm, I don't have a Freerunner myself (yet), but I do use Debian on
other machines. It's definitely possible to get gvim in Debian.[1]

I guess if you want to use it in a distro that doesn't have a package
for it, it looks like you'd have to do some manual config/installation
that I haven't tried, so perhaps other people would be better placed
to offer advice on that front.[2]

[1]http://packages.debian.org/etch/gvim
[2]http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/gui_x11.html

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Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-20 Thread William Kenworthy

On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 13:15 +0100, Alexander Mueller wrote:
> Helge Hafting schrieb:
> > Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:55 +0100, Esben Stien   
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*?
> >>>
> >>> This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in
> >>> the world and of course this means problems.
> >> 169.254.0.0/16 is probably more appropriate because this range is assigned 
> >>  
> >> to link-local addresses.
> > 
> > Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a
> > link-local address?
> > * Pick a random address
> > * check that it is free (arp, ping,...)
> > * take it.
> > 
> > That has a good chance of working, even for those who
> > routinely connect two phones to the same pc at the same time.
> > 
> > Helge Hafting
> This would make it way harder to communicate with the freerunner.
> For now you know you can reach it at 192.168.0.202 and most of the 
> documentations builds on this. So figuring out the ip address FR has 
> chosen is way harder, especially for newbies.
> 
> Alex Mueller

Not if its handled right.  I am not feeling generous to the "bad word
deleted" who chose this address - just flashed 2008.12.  Everytime I
flash the freerunner, I have to modify things to get it to behave nicely
with my network.

Still, its not just the freerunner, but big companies like netgear who
also choose inappropriate defaults ;(

BillK




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Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]

2008-12-20 Thread Davide Scaini

I have compiled it from svn... nice but:
- as Dan i can't see naything about maps... i configured the xml file to
open a bin file from osm but navit says "Failed to load 'path/myfile.bin' "
- i can't use gps data even if navit says "Connected to gpsd fd=4 ...etc
etc"
any hints?
thanks
d

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:33 PM, KaZeR  wrote:

>
>
> > -Message d'origine-
> > De : Dan Staley [mailto:dlst...@uky.edu]
> > Envoyé : lundi 15 décembre 2008 16:05
> > À : KaZeR
> > Cc : openmoko community
> > Objet : Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]
> >
> > I downloaded the tar and it definitely looks ALOT nicer and
> > feels more stable than the version I tried out before!  Great job!
> >
> > One question though, I tried to follow the wiki to get a new
> > map loaded, I downloaded the planet.bin file and moved it to
> > the FR, and made a xml file for it (looks just like the one
> > included for the test map, but to planet.bin)...but whenever
> > I load up navit, I just get a brown screen where the map
> > should be.  Is there something else that is required?
> >
>
> If you used navit before, maybe it remembers your last viewing coordinates
> (until it gets a fix).
> Check if you have ~/.navit/center.txt, if so you can remove it. Do you have
> a gps signal?
>
>
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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread kimaidou

Hi Sam

Thanks for your reply. I am currently using SHR, and a opkg update + opkg
install gvim did not work. Where can I find the gvim package please ?


2008/12/19 Sam Kuper 

> 2008/12/19 kimaidou 
>
>> I am using my freerunner with a keyboard connected via USB. When I want to
>> create/modify a text document, I use nano or vi.
>> It works great (fast, low cpu-usage) but It lacks some funcionnalities I
>> am looking for :
>> * Wrap text at the end of line
>> * Line number show
>> * graphical way of selecting files to open.
>>
>> I would like to know if someone knew a bit about that ?
>
>
> gvim
>
>
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Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-20 Thread Alexander Mueller

Helge Hafting schrieb:
> Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:55 +0100, Esben Stien   
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*?
>>>
>>> This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in
>>> the world and of course this means problems.
>> 169.254.0.0/16 is probably more appropriate because this range is assigned  
>> to link-local addresses.
> 
> Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a
> link-local address?
> * Pick a random address
> * check that it is free (arp, ping,...)
> * take it.
> 
> That has a good chance of working, even for those who
> routinely connect two phones to the same pc at the same time.
> 
> Helge Hafting
This would make it way harder to communicate with the freerunner.
For now you know you can reach it at 192.168.0.202 and most of the 
documentations builds on this. So figuring out the ip address FR has 
chosen is way harder, especially for newbies.

Alex Mueller


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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors

Fox Mulder  writes:
> That's not good.
> Is there another way to get the wlan status with help of a console
> command like dbus or anything else?

I am not sure. There's an ioctl but it seems to give different results
than the power_on sysfs node.




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