Re: [GTA01 Qi] doku fuckup and SD-Boot problems

2009-01-02 Thread xiangfu
Hi Tilman Baumann wrote: > Hi, > > I have just flashed Qi and have two questions. > > First, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi clearly states that the boot > menu via power+aux will still work. > I was sceptical about how that should work since gta01 has no NOR flash. > But I trusted the source

SF / Citysense

2009-01-02 Thread JW
oh and seeing you are in SF with your BB have you seen this :-) http://www.citysense.com/moreInfo.php ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Questions and Answers

2009-01-02 Thread JW
Sean Moss-Pultz openmoko.com> writes: Sean Kudos to you for your openness about the status of Openmoko Inc and the future roadmap, the numbers so far and future ambitions.Also for your hints about some of the hard decisions and pain along the way. Its no small achievement to take this sta

android cross successfully compiled for EEE 1000H

2009-01-02 Thread JW
http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/01/android-netbooks-on-their-way-likely-by-2010/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Questions and Answers

2009-01-02 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: >> Q5. Kosa and Marco wondered if you could say us something about the >> management that doesn't seem to be loved by great hackers like Harald >> and Carsten. For example, what is your analysis of the controversies >> that led Om2008 to ship with Qtopia's predictive keyboard

Re: Questions and Answers

2009-01-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:50:14 +0100 Lee Grime babbled: or... use something programmable like the omap3 series that comes with a dsp to offload work to - arm has been working on doing cortex a9 which is multi-core. forget glamo. it's legacy. if you are talking of "doing an SoC" you are in for a har

Re: Questions and Answers

2009-01-02 Thread Lee Grime
Sean, I come from a hardware background, chip design mainly, but analogue (note the spelling :-) ) and DSP(MSc) are still strong points. Done chip design for 15 years. Now I do not have a great deal of time at the moment, what with a 3 week old baby and stuff!, but if we can get a few other like

Questions and Answers

2009-01-02 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Dear Community Here are my answers to your great questions: > Q1. The end of the year is a time to look back on the year > achievements. So where does Openmoko stands now from a business point > of view ? Could you comment on sustainability, on sales numbers, on > geographic markets and custome

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 02.01.2009, 18:50 +0100 schrieb arne anka: > >>> --enable-avoid-float > > I think the first parameter to avoid floating point operations should > > help quite a bit on such a low performance system which has to do fp > > with integer commands. > > if it is indeed the one kazer

Re: [navit] Sample map

2009-01-02 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
I think that a separate package is a good thing, it saves space on the device and not prevent anyone from installing it to have a map to show :) Jeffrey Ratcliffe ha scritto: > 2009/1/2 Michael Shiloh : >> I beg to differ. Since Internet access is so iffy at the moment, having >> something to show

Re: [navit] Sample map

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Shiloh
Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: > 2009/1/2 Michael Shiloh : >> I beg to differ. Since Internet access is so iffy at the moment, having >> something to show right away is very important. > > Or at least put it in a separate package. > yes, that would work. i would hope that whoever decides what goes into

Re: [navit] Sample map

2009-01-02 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2009/1/2 Michael Shiloh : > I beg to differ. Since Internet access is so iffy at the moment, having > something to show right away is very important. Or at least put it in a separate package. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.

Re: [navit] Sample map

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Shiloh
Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: > Given the fact that space is short on mobile devices, might I suggest > that the sample map not be included in the .opkg? I beg to differ. Since Internet access is so iffy at the moment, having something to show right away is very important. ___

[navit] Sample map

2009-01-02 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
Given the fact that space is short on mobile devices, might I suggest that the sample map not be included in the .opkg? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume

2009-01-02 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: > Having installed navit on my GTA02v5, it seems that it loses GPS after > resuming. I haven't finished playing around to see if this is a GPS > problem or a navit problem, but while I do, has anyone else noticed? > Found a solution? I figure that this should be controlled

[2008.testing] GPS after resume

2009-01-02 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
Having installed navit on my GTA02v5, it seems that it loses GPS after resuming. I haven't finished playing around to see if this is a GPS problem or a navit problem, but while I do, has anyone else noticed? Found a solution? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko

Re: [GTA01 Qi] doku fuckup and SD-Boot problems

2009-01-02 Thread Tilman Baumann
George Brooke wrote: > On Friday 02 January 2009 19:40:00 Tilman Baumann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have just flashed Qi and have two questions. >> >> First, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi clearly states that the boot >> menu via power+aux will still work. >> I was sceptical about how that should work

Re: [GTA01 Qi] doku fuckup and SD-Boot problems

2009-01-02 Thread George Brooke
On Friday 02 January 2009 19:40:00 Tilman Baumann wrote: > Hi, > > I have just flashed Qi and have two questions. > > First, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi clearly states that the boot > menu via power+aux will still work. > I was sceptical about how that should work since gta01 has no NOR flash.

[GTA01 Qi] doku fuckup and SD-Boot problems

2009-01-02 Thread Tilman Baumann
Hi, I have just flashed Qi and have two questions. First, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi clearly states that the boot menu via power+aux will still work. I was sceptical about how that should work since gta01 has no NOR flash. But I trusted the source. Needless to say that there is no boot me

Re: espeak, mbrola, utf8, navit : problem with french, accentuated letters

2009-01-02 Thread Gilles Casse
Xavier Cremaschi wrote: > > I added in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf > DefaultLanguage "fr" > AddModule "mbrola" "sd_generic" "mbrola.conf" > DefaultModule mbrola > > and I created a mbrola.conf in /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules > Your mbrola.conf works fine, variables expanded corre

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread Fox Mulder
arne anka wrote: --enable-avoid-float >> I think the first parameter to avoid floating point operations should >> help quite a bit on such a low performance system which has to do fp >> with integer commands. > > if it is indeed the one kazer had in mind. maybe it should be rather > configu

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread arne anka
>>> --enable-avoid-float > I think the first parameter to avoid floating point operations should > help quite a bit on such a low performance system which has to do fp > with integer commands. if it is indeed the one kazer had in mind. maybe it should be rather configurable by config instead of

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread Fox Mulder
arne anka wrote: > well, this one >> --enable-avoid-float > sounds pretty interesting! > and maybe this one too: >> --disable-postgresql > > i'll build a new package tonight. I think the first parameter to avoid floating point operations should help quite a bit on such a low performance system whi

Re: Help with nand u-boot environment

2009-01-02 Thread leona...@lilik.it
Gothnet wrote: Hi everybody. Thanks for the help, I'm now able to boot both qt-extended and 2008.12! I'm still not really confident about u-boot syntax, I understand that setenv var content means set "content" into "var", but what is the part of "content" that is displayed as a menu entry and w

Re: Help with nand u-boot environment

2009-01-02 Thread Gothnet
Leonardo-3 wrote: > > Hi all, > I've been messing with u-boot and need some help. > I was trying to set the "rw" parameter into bootargs to boot 2008.12 > from SD. After a couple attempts, I had too many entries in the u-boot, > and wanted to erase them all, so I used the "defaultenv" command in

Re: (FSO) Milestone 4 only prompts

2009-01-02 Thread Paul
> The only thing I did notice was after the ascii-art Angstrom > thingy when the screen goes dark . . . wait. It seems to take ages, > especially if you've used the om2008.12 images! Only suggestion is keep > waving that parsley . . . > Amazing... after firing it up again it actually, after

Re: (FSO) Milestone 4 only prompts

2009-01-02 Thread qhaz
Paul-8 wrote: > > Hello folks > > I flashed > > uImage-2.6.24+r10+gitr6e2a723ef54ee2e739c34786981b2c508db803c1-r10-om-gta02.bin > > and > > openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20081120-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 > > using the Neotool. FSO boots, shows me a nice ascii-art Angstrom and a > logi

Re: [2008.12] BeautifulSoup and Python... how?

2009-01-02 Thread arne anka
> Yeah, today installing python-something_near_xml it's what i thought, so > at now in my moko-box "python-xml" and "python-xmlrpc", but you know > the result. is there a package python-html or so? google offered a slightly confusing posting indicating that maybe sgmllib ended up there, at leas

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread arne anka
well, this one > --enable-avoid-float sounds pretty interesting! and maybe this one too: > --disable-postgresql i'll build a new package tonight. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread Fox Mulder
I didn't do anything special except for disabling all unneccecery things for compilation. Therefore i use [1] as parameters for configure and i compile it directly on my fr (no cross compile). I compiled the current 1875 now and tested it again and top shows that the navit process uses 0.0% cpu whe

Dutch people

2009-01-02 Thread Pander
Hi all, Which one of you are Dutch? I have some interesting localisation to discuss. Please me an off-list message Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [2008.12] BeautifulSoup and Python... how?

2009-01-02 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
Solved :D I've managed to import manually all the libraries necessary to import BeautifulSoup: I copied on the running dir of my script (on the FR) the following libraries: markupbase.py sgmllib.py BeautifulSoup.py and all worked fine :D Thanks to arne and RMS ;) arne anka ha scritto: >> However

[Om2008.9] alarm works only with ALL days

2009-01-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hi, I've just realized (and double-checked) that the alarm clock only works (i.e. RINGs) if I configure 'any day'; with for example alarm on Saturday and Sunday off, no alarm is generated today, a Friday. Is this a known feature (bug :-)) matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Su

Re: [2008.12] BeautifulSoup and Python... how?

2009-01-02 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
Yeah, today installing python-something_near_xml it's what i thought, so at now in my moko-box "python-xml" and "python-xmlrpc", but you know the result. Is there any way to see if any of the official 2008.12 packages avaiable from opkg contains "sgmllib.py" (a sort of "apt-file search")? In Pyth

Re: Help with nand u-boot environment

2009-01-02 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> One more question: if I use a menu item like this: > > setenv menu_1 Boot from microSD (2008.12): setenv rootfstype=ext2 > root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 \; mmcinit\; fatload mmc 1 0x3200 uImage.bin\; > bootm 0x3200 > > and then "run menu_1" I always (even if booting the kernel has success) > see on

Re: [2008.12] BeautifulSoup and Python... how?

2009-01-02 Thread arne anka
> However, no results: quite interesting! when i do $ apt-file search sgmllib in debian i get diveintopython: /usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/html_processing/introducing_sgmllib.html diveintopython-zh: /usr/share/doc/diveintopython-zh/html/html_processing/introducing_sgmllib.html jython:

Re: [2008.12] BeautifulSoup and Python... how?

2009-01-02 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
Great! I was thinking that something was missing, but the First of the Year has decreased my understanding capacity :D However, no results: r...@om-gta02:~# find / -name \*sgmllib\* r...@om-gta02:~# Could anyone reproduce the "import BeautifulSoup" and the error? Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scrit

Re: Cellphone sizes

2009-01-02 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:57:00 pm Ben Wilson wrote: > However I guess a phone that size might not appeal to everybody? Correct, the Neo is probably about as large as I'd want to go volume wise (I'd trade off depth for width happily). -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC

Re: Help with nand u-boot environment

2009-01-02 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi all, | I've been messing with u-boot and need some help. | I was trying to set the "rw" parameter into bootargs to boot 2008.12 | from SD. After a couple attempts, I had too many entries in the u-boot, |

Help with nand u-boot environment

2009-01-02 Thread leona...@lilik.it
Hi all, I've been messing with u-boot and need some help. I was trying to set the "rw" parameter into bootargs to boot 2008.12 from SD. After a couple attempts, I had too many entries in the u-boot, and wanted to erase them all, so I used the "defaultenv" command in u-boot to reset them to the begi

Re: [Om2008.9] Spanish Illume keyboard (was: Call for Illume keyboardsand keyboard icons)

2009-01-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, January 02, 2009 a las 10:30:19PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler escribió: > On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:28:17 +0100 Matthias Apitz babbled: > > > El día Friday, January 02, 2009 a las 09:12:43PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler > > escribió: > > > > > On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:00:36 +1100 Carsten Haitzl

Re: Debian install today Again phyton-evas and Zhone

2009-01-02 Thread arne anka
>> Sorry for asking but could the .deb on your site be corrupted? :-( > > Quite likely: > > >> debian-gta02:~# wget >> www.ginguppin.de/node/24/python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb that's not the url to the package but the blog entry with the package name appended! not sure, where you got that url fr

Re: [Om2008.9] Spanish Illume keyboard

2009-01-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:38:46 +0100 Pander babbled: > Rasterman, how can I use a real space or an empty string for the space > bar? Because space is considered a white space character it is not > picked up to be displayed on a key. space (the keysym name) :) > Is it good practise if I use Unico

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread arne anka
> After i compiled a version myself it uses ~2% cpu when running and idle. what exactly did you do? i cross compiled but the problem remains. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/com

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread arne anka
> The Debian precompiled package is meant for desktops, not the FR, thus and it is for x86 -- while fr has armel (at least my recherches did not turn up precompiled armel packages anywhere). thus, even if i'd like to, it wouldn't run, wouldn't it? as said before: i built it myself from the orig

Re: Debian install today Again phyton-evas and Zhone

2009-01-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 02.01.2009, 03:12 -0800 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut: > Sorry for asking but could the .deb on your site be corrupted? :-( Quite likely: > debian-gta02:~# wget www.ginguppin.de/node/24/python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb > --2009-01-02 10:54:13-- > http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24/py

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread Fox Mulder
KaZeR wrote: > Fox Mulder a écrit : >> arne anka wrote: >> >>> i enabled the small screen gui ("internal" it is called, i think) and >>> tried out navigation. >>> so far rendering is _very_ slow and the cpu usage applet always shows >>> about 80-100% usage -- thus eating power quite fast, i

Re: [Om2008.9] Spanish Illume keyboard

2009-01-02 Thread Pander
Rasterman, how can I use a real space or an empty string for the space bar? Because space is considered a white space character it is not picked up to be displayed on a key. Is it good practise if I use Unicode C2 A0, i.e. no-break space? Or are there other ways to not label a key? E.g. refering t

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-02 Thread KaZeR
Fox Mulder a écrit : arne anka wrote: i enabled the small screen gui ("internal" it is called, i think) and tried out navigation. so far rendering is _very_ slow and the cpu usage applet always shows about 80-100% usage -- thus eating power quite fast, i presume. it takes a long while (and

Re: [Om2008.9] Spanish Illume keyboard (was: Call for Illume keyboardsand keyboard icons)

2009-01-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:28:17 +0100 Matthias Apitz babbled: > El día Friday, January 02, 2009 a las 09:12:43PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler > escribió: > > > On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:00:36 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > babbled: > > > > gah! replying to myself.. found out why... > > > > you

Re: [2008.12] BeautifulSoup and Python... how?

2009-01-02 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Of course it does. Now do a find like arne asked you :) (joking, you just missed the "find" command, as arne said, type: find / -name \*sgmllib\* Rui On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:19:43PM +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: > Be patient, it exits as follow: > > r...@om-gta02:~# / -name \*

Re: [2008.12] BeautifulSoup and Python... how?

2009-01-02 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
Be patient, it exits as follow: r...@om-gta02:~# / -name \*sgmllib\* -sh: /: Permission denied arne anka ha scritto: >> ImportError: No module named sgmllib > > well, _is_ there a module sgmllib? what does > find / -name \*sgmllib\* > return? > > ___

Re: Debian install today Again phyton-evas and Zhone

2009-01-02 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Hello Arne, Thanks for replying. I installed the old cython again -> ok then I tryed to get python-evas again (from your site and from others) but I never get your md5sum and so the error installing python-evas by dpkg remains. Sorry for asking but could the .deb on your site be corrupted? :-(

Re: espeak, mbrola, utf8, navit : problem with french accentuated letters

2009-01-02 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Now I am trying to plug everything into speed-dispatcher... I added in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf DefaultLanguage "fr" AddModule "mbrola" "sd_generic" "mbrola.conf" DefaultModule mbrola and I created a mbrola.conf in /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules It works (spd-say "bonjour" sp

Re: [Om2008.9] Spanish Illume keyboard (was: Call for Illume keyboardsand keyboard icons)

2009-01-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, January 02, 2009 a las 09:12:43PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler escribió: > On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:00:36 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > babbled: > > gah! replying to myself.. found out why... > > you file was NOT UTF-8~ it was iso8859! no no! MUST BE UTF-8! > > attached fixe

Re: [Om2008.9] Spanish Illume keyboard (was: Call for Illume keyboardsand keyboard icons)

2009-01-02 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 09:12:43PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > now.. spank! make sure you use utf8! :) (heathens still using iso8859!!!) :) Each time a non UTF8 encoding is used, a kitten dies! Rui -- P'tang! Today is Boomtime, the 2nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you

(FSO) Milestone 4 only prompts

2009-01-02 Thread Paul
Hello folks I flashed uImage-2.6.24+r10+gitr6e2a723ef54ee2e739c34786981b2c508db803c1-r10-om-gta02.bin and openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20081120-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 using the Neotool. FSO boots, shows me a nice ascii-art Angstrom and a login-prompt. From there it just sits quietly un

Re: [Om2008.9] Spanish Illume keyboard (was: Call for Illume keyboardsand keyboard icons)

2009-01-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, January 02, 2009 a las 09:00:36PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler escribió: > On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 07:21:52 +0100 Matthias Apitz babbled: > > ok for some bizarre reason.. you've hit on some sscanf parsing bug. either i > need a spank for not understanding it... or it has problems with utf8

Re: [Om2008.9] Spanish Illume keyboard (was: Call for Illume keyboardsand keyboard icons)

2009-01-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:00:36 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) babbled: gah! replying to myself.. found out why... you file was NOT UTF-8~ it was iso8859! no no! MUST BE UTF-8! attached fixed file - in utf8. works fine. now.. spank! make sure you use utf8! :) (heathens still using iso8859!

Re: [2008.12] BeautifulSoup and Python... how?

2009-01-02 Thread arne anka
> ImportError: No module named sgmllib well, _is_ there a module sgmllib? what does find / -name \*sgmllib\* return? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Om2008.9] Spanish Illume keyboard (was: Call for Illume keyboardsand keyboard icons)

2009-01-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 07:21:52 +0100 Matthias Apitz babbled: ok for some bizarre reason.. you've hit on some sscanf parsing bug. either i need a spank for not understanding it... or it has problems with utf8 char sequences that it didnt have with the numbers.kbd. as soon as it sees the accute accent

Re: Debian install today Again phyton-evas and Zhone

2009-01-02 Thread arne anka
> Installing python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb from > http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24 give's me this: > debian-gta02:~# dpkg -i python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb > dpkg-deb: `python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb' is not a debian format archive > dpkg: error processing python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb (--install): >

Cannot reflash with DFU

2009-01-02 Thread Vasili Sviridov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In continuation of the "Getting rid of Android" thread. Current situation: Able to power up into NAND and NOR uBoots (they are different versions too, maybe not versions, but they report different build dates) Able to attach to /dev/ttyACM0 and issu