Re: [FSO/SHR/Debian] Update to BtGPS.py

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
Hi Angus What about putting this app on the opkg.org website, so people would easily find it ? Thanks anyway for sharing your work kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
Hi all, I am glad people (re-)start to talk about keyboards. 2 points: * Another great improvement compared to the iphone, illume, etc. ones, would be to have a transparent keyboard, using the whole screen, but allowing to see through it. Of course we need the transparency % to be changed by

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Vasili Sviridov
Good point about T9 kimaidou, but as far as I know the T9 itself is a patented technology, and would not be able to appear on Moko officially... kimaidou wrote: Hi all, I am glad people (re-)start to talk about keyboards. 2 points: * Another great improvement compared to the iphone, illume,

Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer

2009-01-06 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/1/6 Dylan Reilly drei...@atariland.net: To tell you the truth, I am not sure. I have always been running the testing distribution, but 2008.12 *should* be more or less the same as testing. No. There were two types of testing image, one using the 2008.12-like qtopia stuff and one using

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
I don't get how the dictionnary (illume and qtopia) actually helps to write some word. To write forest with illume keyboard you just have to type : - near the f key - near the o key - near the r key - near the e key - near the s key - near the t key For each key you type, the illume keyboard

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:50:38 +0100 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com babbled: Hi all, I am glad people (re-)start to talk about keyboards. 2 points: * Another great improvement compared to the iphone, illume, etc. ones, would be to have a transparent keyboard, using the whole screen, but

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/6 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com: Ok. Thanks both for your usefull answers. @Vasily : T9 is patented, but we can reproduce the same functionnality, as OpenOffice did with Microsoft Office, or am I missing something ? no, t9 is patented in it's entirety. ms office is not patented as a

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2009-01-06 Thread Thomas Otterbein
wrote: fla...@correo.ugr.es wrote: Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a link-local address? * Pick a random address * check that it is free (arp, ping,...) * take it. That has a good chance of working, even for those who routinely connect two

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Esben Stien
Pascal d'Hermilly pas...@tipisoft.dk writes: a well working finger-friendly keyboard is the most critical missing feature for me. Yes, I find this issue very strange. First and foremost, it is us hackers that use this device for now and are supposed to make apps for freerunner and all, and we

Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?

2009-01-06 Thread Sander van Grieken
Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Paul Fertser wrote: Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net writes: So the question is, when will the default kernel be replaced by the new 2.6.28 andy kernel so that userspace tools could be adapted to it? That would be my question as well. I only care

Developers guide for dummies - Eclipse

2009-01-06 Thread Robin Häggqvist
Hello I might start with that I don't have much developer experience(some java/Pascal class in school a few years ago) and im trying to setup eclipse on my ubuntu8.10 machine. I think I have installed it in 3 diffrent places(first 3.2 version second 3.4.4 version and one 3.4.1 with C/C++

Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer

2009-01-06 Thread Giovanni
Dear Timo, can you share your python app for switching the profiles? On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/1/6 Dylan Reilly drei...@atariland.net: To tell you the truth, I am not sure. I have always been running the testing distribution, but

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread arne anka
no, t9 is patented in it's entirety. what exactly is patented that could not be reimplemented? - the system of numbers and characters per key is afaik a well known standard (and dating from long before the mobile era) - hitting the key several times to select a specific symbol was done long

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
Woua ! THAT is a complete explanation ! It shows well the complexity and power of the illume keyboard method. I apologize for not having well understand this before. I will now definitely use the keyboard, and improve my dictionnary as I type. Thanks a lot for the complete explanation 2009/1/6

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:20:12 +0100 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de babbled: no, t9 is patented in it's entirety. what exactly is patented that could not be reimplemented? - the system of numbers and characters per key is afaik a well known standard (and dating from long before the

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes: what exactly is patented that could not be reimplemented? ... - completing a word from a dictionary based on the already available string is done by several keyboard apps (even xvkbd afaik) w/o violating any patents the

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread arne anka
no, t9 is patented in it's entirety. what exactly is patented that could not be reimplemented? - the system of numbers and characters per key is afaik a well known standard (and dating from long before the mobile era) - hitting the key several times to select a specific symbol was done

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:37:41 +0300 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com babbled: Hi, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes: what exactly is patented that could not be reimplemented? ... - completing a word from a dictionary based on the already available string is

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:39:02 +0100 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de babbled: no, t9 is patented in it's entirety. what exactly is patented that could not be reimplemented? - the system of numbers and characters per key is afaik a well known standard (and dating from long before the

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Leonti Bielski
I like the illume keyboard! I like it a lot. Word matching is working for me very well even for thumb. I get exact words with my finger in a majority of cases. Dictionaries. It seems like a lot of people blame Raster's keyboard for not getting word matches because of the lack of dictionary. Do

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:02:40 +0100 Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name babbled: Pascal d'Hermilly pas...@tipisoft.dk writes: a well working finger-friendly keyboard is the most critical missing feature for me. Yes, I find this issue very strange. First and foremost, it is us hackers that

Illume keyboard dictionary sorting and normalization

2009-01-06 Thread Olof Sjobergh
Hi, I'm working on a Swedish dictionary and keyboard for Illume, but I'm having some trouble with sorting of utf8 chars in the dictionary. I can't seem to get the sorting right. Looking at the code, Illume sorts the dictionary after first normalizing the strings according to the internal

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/6 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: you do - Terminal.kbd layout - it ships with illume. i designed the kbd engine in illume to allow for straight-through pushing of key presses without a dict int he way. the Terminal.kbd bypasses dict lookup by just emitting keysyms

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2009-01-06 Thread Helge Hafting
Thomas Otterbein wrote: Now when it comes to real users I believe the discussion about the best fixed IP-Number or a pool of dynamic numbers is far too short-sighted. As a true linux user by hard for many year now I have no problem in running a couple of commands to connect my Freerunner

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:55:13 +1300 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com babbled: 2009/1/6 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: you do - Terminal.kbd layout - it ships with illume. i designed the kbd engine in illume to allow for straight-through pushing of key presses

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:53:37 +0100 Mathieu Rochette math...@gmail.com babbled: Shashank Bharadwaj wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com mailto:ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:46:15 + Jan Henkins

Re: OpenMooCow 0.3

2009-01-06 Thread Helge Hafting
Thomas White wrote: Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: My SHR is unable to open audio. But the older moocow worked with the same setup. I can stop speech-dispatcher, but it doesn't help. There is no snd-pcm-oss module to load, bt the previous moocow didn't need that. Previous

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread leona...@lilik.it
Hi Raster, thanks for the explanation. anyway. i hope this helps people understand how it works. someone can throw this onto the wiki if they like. this is the code i wrote for the illume kbd I've summarized this in a page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume_keyboard it's cool, you should

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2009-01-06 Thread Thomas Otterbein
Hi Helge, I largely agree with you. Yes of course every needs to be widely configurable. To me the phone be able to be confiured to a range starting from fixed IP and just sitting there waiting for it's masters orders to booking automatically into known WLANs and downloading updates without

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:34:28 +0100 leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it babbled: Hi Raster, thanks for the explanation. anyway. i hope this helps people understand how it works. someone can throw this onto the wiki if they like. this is the code i wrote for the illume kbd I've

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
Hi I like the idea to create a new layout with the well known phone arrangement : [] [abc] [def] [ghi] [jkl] [mno] [pqrs] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
SorrI just sent it to fast: here is the end of my message : 2009/1/6 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi I like the idea to create a new layout with the well known phone arrangement : [] [abc] [def] [ghi] [jkl] [mno] [pqrs] [tuv] [wxyz] Do you think it will help to type faster with

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:46:41 +0100 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com babbled: SorrI just sent it to fast: here is the end of my message : 2009/1/6 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi I like the idea to create a new layout with the well known phone arrangement : [] [abc] [def] [ghi]

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Mathieu Rochette
Shashank Bharadwaj wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com mailto:ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:46:15 + Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net mailto:j...@henkins.za.net babbled: Hello there,

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:14:19 +0100 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com babbled: Ok. Thanks both for your usefull answers. @Vasily : T9 is patented, but we can reproduce the same functionnality, as OpenOffice did with Microsoft Office, or am I missing something ? no you can't a patent coverts any form

Re: [FSO/SHR/Debian] Update to BtGPS.py

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
If you suggest me to enter the application in opkg, i will say why not, but I think the author is the best person to do it. This way he can give the link to website, better explain the app, and give a link to an .ipk file instead of a python file if he wants to. Not having yet the knowledge for

Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner

2009-01-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com writes: IMAP IDLE is not a push mechanism... SMS is a push mechanism. Something that doesn't require the FR to be out of suspend mode before You can be in suspend with GPRS connected. The only trouble is that port scanners will wake up your phone all

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Alberto Morales
El Martes, 6 de Enero de 2009, Carsten Haitzler escribió: [...] my bet is more people are more proficient at qwerty than at abcdefgh... (those really proficient at abcdefgh are ALSO likely to be really good at qwerty too - the teenagers and young people totally addicted to smsing eachother on

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello Raster, On Tue, January 6, 2009 09:56, Carsten Haitzler wrote: ok. let me draw u a keyboard (or part of it): q w e r t y u i o p a s d f g h j k l z x c v b n m Excellent! Better than any info currently on the WIKI (I could only find reference to the qtopia keyboard and

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:28:09 - (UTC) Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net babbled: Hello Raster, On Tue, January 6, 2009 09:56, Carsten Haitzler wrote: ok. let me draw u a keyboard (or part of it): q w e r t y u i o p a s d f g h j k l z x c v b n m Excellent! Better

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi! First and foremost, it is us hackers that use this device for now and are supposed to make apps for freerunner and all, and we don't have a damn keyboard;). All this fancy pancy dictionary based guessing is maybe good for normal people writing crappy SMS messages, but not for the current

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Kieran Fleming
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 01:51 +0100, Pascal d'Hermilly wrote: With 2008.12 release, a well working finger-friendly keyboard is the most critical missing feature for me. I've made a mockup of a keyboard that I think would make things a lot easier to type.

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Marc Bantle
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb: ok. let me draw u a keyboard (or part of it): q w e r t y u i o p a s d f g h j k l z x c v b n m Excellent! Better than any info currently on the WIKI (I could only find reference to the qtopia keyboard and it's usage). Would you

Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?

2009-01-06 Thread Fox Mulder
Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Paul Fertser wrote: Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net writes: So the question is, when will the default kernel be replaced by the new 2.6.28 andy kernel so that userspace tools could be adapted to it? That would be my question

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2009-01-06 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
The .pdf says this hardware fix transforms a GTA02v5 with buzz into a GTA02v7-equivalent (without buzz). But is the GTA02v7 currently produced and/or sold ? The wiki seems to stop at GTA02v6 (for which buzz is still a possibility). Xavier. ___

Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Actually, you can try to change from 2.6.24 after applying an ad-hoc patch from http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/293 even on old version that's provided by Debian (that's exactly what i did a month ago). Ok. I downloaded the fso-frameworkd

Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow

2009-01-06 Thread Yoann ARNAUD
Hello Community, Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. If any of you have some last minute advice to give me, I take :) I can take pictures and make a report of my experience if you think that's necessary. I don't

Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?

2009-01-06 Thread Christ van Willegen
To whom this may concern... I've been using my FreeRunner for some time now, and although some points keep irking me (esp. sound and accelerometers after suspend/resume), it's more and more a daily phone. Except for the buzz. The last few days, people have constantly complained about a loud,

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Mathieu Rochette
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! First and foremost, it is us hackers that use this device for now and are supposed to make apps for freerunner and all, and we don't have a damn keyboard;). All this fancy pancy dictionary based guessing is maybe good for normal people writing crappy SMS messages,

Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?

2009-01-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com writes: The last few days, people have constantly complained about a loud, high-pitched noise when I call them. I presume it's the 'ahrdware buzz' we're talking about here. The buzz seems to be proportional to the transmit power which itself seems to be

Re: Illume keyboard dictionary sorting and normalization

2009-01-06 Thread Pander
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:49:55 +0100 Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com babbled: Hi, I'm working on a Swedish dictionary and keyboard for Illume, but I'm having some trouble with sorting of utf8 chars in the dictionary. I can't seem to get the sorting

Re: Illume keyboard dictionary sorting and normalization

2009-01-06 Thread Pander
Pander wrote: ... However it would be desirable that each .kbd file can indicate: - predictive mode is not possible, e.g. for numeric keyboards. I don't want it to remember my PIN, credit card number, etcetera. (numeric keyboard, a real one, without the é, ë, ..) - predictive mode is default

Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2009-01-06 Thread Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson
Helge Hafting wrote: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: This always happens when we're starting to stabilize for a release. Last time it was something with a missing mimetypes postinst. Raster, any idea what it can be this time? There is definitely a problem with whatever parses the .desktop

Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?

2009-01-06 Thread Fox Mulder
Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Actually, you can try to change from 2.6.24 after applying an ad-hoc patch from http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/293 even on old version that's provided by Debian (that's exactly what i did a month ago). Ok. I downloaded

Re: Questions and Answers

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:13:45 +0100 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net babbled: Let me give everyone a bit more background into the keypad issue. We first saw the Qtopia predictive keypad back in February of 2008, and became extremely exited. This keypad, we believed, had the potential

Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
Hi Oh yes, please take pictures and give feedback to help people understand the process and evaluate its feasibility. Thanks in advance :D 2009/1/6 Yoann ARNAUD yarn...@crans.org Hello Community, Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM version A5 according to

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
Hi Kieran, +1 for your idea : a toggle fullscreen button would be a great improvement. I still consider a transparent keyboard will be a good stuff too. By transparent, I don't mean you can click on the interface under , I mean you can see what you are writting under the keyboard, but cannot have

Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
Hi Timo Thanks for your feedback on monitoring the reception quality. Is it possible to create a script which display the number each 5 seconds, so that we can actually see the evolution of the reception as moving the phone ? I am no coder, so I don't know how to do it. The best would be to

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2009-01-06 Thread David Zwarg
Greetings, I have been following the developments of OM, and I, too would like to know when I can expect to see GTA02 with buzz fix available commercially. Thanks for any updates, z On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: The .pdf says this hardware fix

Re: Illume keyboard dictionary sorting and normalization

2009-01-06 Thread Olof Sjobergh
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: sort -f i think does it... i think... Thanks, that seems to work. I created a package and uploaded to http://www.opkg.org/package_90.html for anyone who is interested. The source is hosted at

Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?

2009-01-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Debug.DebugCommand AT+CSQ\r\n|tr ' '\n'|grep ^\+CSQ:|cut -d, -f1|cut -d' ' -f2 Just make sure this is a complete line and not split to multiple lines as it was in

Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow

2009-01-06 Thread Yoann ARNAUD
kimaidou a écrit : Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use : http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf -- Yoann ARNAUD

Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
Hi ! thanks for your help So basically, I need 2 files : * one ~/bin/loop as described in your email : #!/bin/sh while true; do $1 sleep 2 done * And one monitorgsm with only the complete line (not splitted) such as: #!/bin/sh mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd

Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?

2009-01-06 Thread kimaidou
Hi I just tested, and it worked like a charm ! Just don't forget to chmod +x the 2 scripts Thanks a lot ! 2009/1/6 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi ! thanks for your help So basically, I need 2 files : * one ~/bin/loop as described in your email : #!/bin/sh while true; do $1 sleep

Seeling my Freerunner on Ebay

2009-01-06 Thread feydreva
Hello, I just bought an another phone, so I am selling my Freeruner on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=270326829135 Starting bid is 100$, no reserve, free shipping. Phone is like new, it always had a zack invisible shield for the full body and

Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow

2009-01-06 Thread Fox Mulder
Yoann ARNAUD wrote: kimaidou a écrit : Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use :

connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-01-06 Thread VanInwagen
Hi, all, is there anyone who can help me? I've got debian installed on my freerunner and now i try to connect to a windows xp machine. my debian is quite naked, but in general it's the debian built by the official script linked in the wiki, you surely know. The rndis-windows driver has been taken

Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer

2009-01-06 Thread Dylan Reilly
Well, FWIW, I have both running on my system concurrently: qtopia for the phone-kit and frameworkd for all the system level stuff. On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/6 Dylan Reilly drei...@atariland.net: To tell you the truth, I am not sure. I have

Re: Neo / FreeRunner 'stand'

2009-01-06 Thread Pander
I'm planning to make an open hardware design for something like this and have it manufactured by a 3D printer. Anyone can have it manufactured at a place like http://www.shapeways.com/ At the moment I'm waiting to get some help to get started, see

Re: Strength int to bar conversion

2009-01-06 Thread George Brooke
On Monday 05 January 2009 23:07:39 arne anka wrote: not sure if feasible, but what about making it configurable to have either the bar chart or the number itself shown? the number still could be coloured depending on the level (red to green or so, drawing a string in different colours

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I also am somewhat surprised by the lack of an excellent code-friendly keyboard. I use QWO because it actually has the capability of syntactical symbols and is relatively finger-friendly. Still, sometimes you just can't beat good ol' fashioned QWERTY. I like the idea, though, of a keyboard that

Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?

2009-01-06 Thread Fox Mulder
Fox Mulder wrote: Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Actually, you can try to change from 2.6.24 after applying an ad-hoc patch from http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/293 even on old version that's provided by Debian (that's exactly what i did a month ago).

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Petr Vanek
of the explanation of Illume's error-corrective keyboard, and it sounded so great, I went and tried it. However, when everything except Hello was listed when I typed hdllo and hwllo I gave up on it. :( Also, it DESPERATELY needs a reset button to start over on the word, if it's not in the list.

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Eldon Koyle
On Jan 06 16:59+0100, kimaidou wrote: Hi Kieran, +1 for your idea : a toggle fullscreen button would be a great improvement. I still consider a transparent keyboard will be a good stuff too. By transparent, I don't mean you can click on the interface under , I mean you can see what you are

Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: I installed the om toolchain and compiled the 2.6.28 kernel after some help of [1] and google with ./build dummy. After i compiled the kernel i got dummy/uImage-GTA02.bin what looks quite good so far. But how do i extract the compiled modules from the

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Maybe it would be better to have a full-screen input mode where you can see what will be typed (maybe keep the rightmost 20-30 characters of the string visible in the keyboard app, then actually pass it to the program when leaving 'full-screen' mode or pressing 'enter', etc). That still

Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?

2009-01-06 Thread Fox Mulder
Paul Fertser wrote: Hi, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: I installed the om toolchain and compiled the 2.6.28 kernel after some help of [1] and google with ./build dummy. After i compiled the kernel i got dummy/uImage-GTA02.bin what looks quite good so far. But how do i extract the

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 04:17:06PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: All of them have nice big buttons and share a simple layout. The FR's screen is big enough even in portrait mode to accommodate a keyboard like this. The Illume keyboard, as excellent as it is (thanks Raster!!), is fiddly

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:34:28PM +0100, leona...@lilik.it wrote: Hi Raster, thanks for the explanation. anyway. i hope this helps people understand how it works. someone can throw this onto the wiki if they like. this is the code i wrote for the illume kbd I've summarized this in a

Re: When will kernel 2.6.24 be replaced by andy 2.6.28 kernel for better suspend/resume?

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Fertser
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: Could it be that i have to issue some command which produces the modules tar.gz file? Oh, man... If you don't want to read ``build'' then please do it by hand in the root of the build: rm -rf staging mkdir -p staging make ARCH=arm modules_install

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:14:56 +0100 Mathieu Rochette math...@gmail.com babbled: Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! First and foremost, it is us hackers that use this device for now and are supposed to make apps for freerunner and all, and we don't have a damn keyboard;). All this fancy pancy

Re: Illume keyboard dictionary sorting and normalization

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:43:35 +0100 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:49:55 +0100 Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com babbled: Hi, I'm working on a Swedish dictionary and keyboard for Illume, but I'm having some

Re: Illume keyboard dictionary sorting and normalization

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:58:55 +0100 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net babbled: Pander wrote: ... However it would be desirable that each .kbd file can indicate: - predictive mode is not possible, e.g. for numeric keyboards. I don't want it to remember my PIN, credit card number,

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:28:44 -0600 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com babbled: I also am somewhat surprised by the lack of an excellent code-friendly keyboard. I use QWO because it actually has the capability of syntactical symbols and is relatively finger-friendly. Still, sometimes

Re: Illume keyboard dictionary sorting and normalization

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:28:30 +0100 Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com babbled: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: sort -f i think does it... i think... Thanks, that seems to work. I created a package and uploaded to

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
this is be doable. keyboard application can receive message for client, message type is ECORE_X_ATOM_E_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD_STATE and message data is one of: Is it also possible to change the dictionary on the fly too? (if I understand correctly, you are changing the layout ofthe keyboard) Thank

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-01-06 Thread Gothnet
This isn't going to help you but... The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine with the driver installed. Linux is your friend, though of course that's not always possible. -- View this message in context:

Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 00:33:41 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com babbled: this is be doable. keyboard application can receive message for client, message type is ECORE_X_ATOM_E_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD_STATE and message data is one of: Is it also possible to change the dictionary

stupid networking question

2009-01-06 Thread Harry L. Lee
I have an eeepcwifi'd into the Net, running ubuntu,but when i plug the openmoko into one of its usb ports it goes into wifi reconnection. halp! -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email

Dying battery

2009-01-06 Thread The Digital Pioneer
OK, I just don't get how this can be... Why is it that I can have my phone in my pocket all day, I don't touch it, and when I check it, it has 3/4 of the battery monitor still; and then an hour later it's dead? Can someone explain this to me please? It's completely illogical to me. -- Thanks,

Re: stupid networking question

2009-01-06 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:09:14 -0500, Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com wrote: I have an eeepcwifi'd into the Net, running ubuntu,but when i plug the openmoko into one of its usb ports it goes into wifi reconnection. halp! -- ha...@jonesnose.com What Ubuntu version and flavor? Network Manager

Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?

2009-01-06 Thread Brock
On 2009.01.06.18.30, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: | my ~/bin/loop does | | #!/bin/sh | while true; do | $1 | sleep 2 | done | | so I can just loop gsm-strength, loop energy, loop | temperature or loop consumption. You could also check out the 'watch' command. --Brock

Re: Dying battery

2009-01-06 Thread Brock
On 2009.01.06.19.31, The Digital Pioneer wrote: | OK, I just don't get how this can be... Why is it that I can have my phone | in my pocket all day, I don't touch it, and when I check it, it has 3/4 of | the battery monitor still; and then an hour later it's dead? Can someone | explain this to me

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-01-06 Thread Vasili Sviridov
Gothnet wrote: This isn't going to help you but... The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine with the driver installed. Linux is your friend, though of course that's not always possible. Everything is

Re: Dying battery

2009-01-06 Thread The Digital Pioneer
GTA02 with SHR and mwester kernel. How often does mwester release a new kernel? Maybe it could use updating... -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

is there an effort to port ubuntu to openmoko?

2009-01-06 Thread Harry L. Lee
-- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Hardware buzz - can OpenMoko help?

2009-01-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org writes: You could also check out the 'watch' command. It only shows the latest number, I want to see the trend with as much history as possible. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-01-06 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gothnet schrieb: This isn't going to help you but... The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine with the driver installed. Linux is your friend, though of

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-01-06 Thread matthias
Bastian Muck schrieb: Gothnet schrieb: This isn't going to help you but... The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine with the driver installed. Linux is your friend, though of course that's not