Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?

2009-01-21 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
 Unless I'm quite mistaken, the request was for Openmoko to offer an
 officially-supported development environment, beyond a tarballed toolchain
 and wiki instructions.

I second that. There are so many bleeding edge software, it has a real
barrier (time-consuming installation) to begin to contibute.

Eg. What is the most simple method to help paroli (without a freerunner)?

It requires e17 from svn and their python bindings, it acts with the
FSO stack, need tichy (it is integrated these days,if Im right).
(I personally started to install all this stuff on my Desktop, but just
gave up after a couple of day)

I gave paroli an example for a good reason, because tightly integrated
to the phone:
- does not require kernel development knowledge
- it only requires python knowledge (more easy to catch up as C for example)
- it use e17 for the gui (as all the essential program for the phone)
- it use FSO

So if somebody want to write a nativ program (in the future) for the
freerunner,
it is best to start contributing to paroli...

So an official (maintained) development environment would help the starters.

Best regards,
 Laszlo

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Re: [2008.12] Qwerty button and wrench for everyone

2009-01-21 Thread Yoann ARNAUD
Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster a écrit :

 maybe i forgot to cpoy all the necessary files. try this .e folder: 
 http://jmccloud.jm.funpic.de/asu/e.zip

Same problem. And, actually, I don't understand why changing my .e
folder would change something since it is a hidden folder.


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Re: [2008.12] Qwerty button and wrench for everyone

2009-01-21 Thread arne anka
 Same problem. And, actually, I don't understand why changing my .e
 folder would change something since it is a hidden folder.

that's where the configuration lives ...

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Re: [debian ] Bluetooth

2009-01-21 Thread dscaini
i followed the wiki but with no result... do you have any tip or
favourite application to let it work?
thanks
d


On 1/21/09, Niel Drummond niel.drumm...@grumpytoad.org wrote:
 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes:

 is there someone with a working bluetooth!??


 Yes, worked for me with the packaged kernel.


 yes, I am running debian with the dinovo mini logitech keyboard. it
 works flawlessly, thinking about strapping the phone to the back cover
 of the keyboard.

 - Niel


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Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?

2009-01-21 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 10:25 +0100, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
  Unless I'm quite mistaken, the request was for Openmoko to offer an
  officially-supported development environment, beyond a tarballed toolchain
  and wiki instructions.
 
 I second that. There are so many bleeding edge software, it has a real
 barrier (time-consuming installation) to begin to contibute.
 
 Eg. What is the most simple method to help paroli (without a freerunner)?
 
 It requires e17 from svn and their python bindings, it acts with the
 FSO stack, need tichy (it is integrated these days,if Im right).
 (I personally started to install all this stuff on my Desktop, but just
 gave up after a couple of day)

I just added an INSTALL file in paroli rep [0] with some instructions
hope it may help.

I understand that having to install efl from sources may be annoying for
people who just want to give paroli a try. But it really the only thing
needed, all the other dependencies (mostly python and a few python
libraries) have packages for all common linux distribution.

Beside, you don't need to have FSO to try paroli. If it can't find FSO,
it will use some dummy services that emulate the presence of a phone
stack.

- Guillaume

[0] http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL


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Re: [FSO] Bluetooth Networking with DBUS API

2009-01-21 Thread Michael Tansella
Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 14:28:22 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer:
 Am Friday 16 January 2009 10:04:22 schrieb Michael Tansella:
  Hi,
 
  Is there any howto for using FSO for SSH networking via Bluetooth. I know
  I have to use
 
  mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged
  /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth
  org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower 1
 
  to Power it on and
 
  mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged
  /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth
  org.freesmartphone.Resource.Enable
 
  to enable the resource

 The recommended way with the latest framework would be

 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
 org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy uBT uenabled

  But then I don't know how to continue. There are so many Methods and
  possibilities.

 frameworkd is not creating its own bluetooth stack, we will recommend using
 the BlueZ dbus interface for everything that it offers -- eventually
 completemented with some higher level APIs for scenario handling and file
 sharing.

 So, for the time being, please refer to the bluez dbus API docs.

Thx, I'll try it

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Yaouh! 0.2.1 is out now

2009-01-21 Thread Carlo Minucci
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh%21

i have fix some bug:
* no output of curl and wget (no more x.log big)
* fix break into while

check and tell me other problem :)

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[FSO] issues using fso images / no wireless

2009-01-21 Thread Daniel Spies
Hello list,

as I still cannot compile FSO on my machines I tried to use the already
build images provided by [1]. After flashing the kernel and rootfs I could
easily boot und setup my FR. Now it seems there is no Dialer and/or Contact
application preinstalled. I wanted to install them from the repos, but
after establishing a connection to a wireless network it turned out that
doesn't work at all. I got my IP address and 'route' tells me the default
gateway is set properly. But no packet seems to go out... So, anyone know
if there is a known issue with wireless on the current FSO builds? I'm
ready to flash again if I did something wrong, if you help me. I didn't use
the
modules-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.tgz
file, I simply don't know what to do with it. May this be a problem?

Used files for flashing are:
openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090118-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.bin

[1] http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/

Thanks,
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Re: [Android] on SD card

2009-01-21 Thread dscaini
it's very interesting! but is there a way for booting with uboot?
thanks
d

ps i haven't tried android recently mainly cause the bigger kernel and
my lazyness in changing uboot.

On 12/29/08, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
 Hi,
 i have android booting from SD card. It wasn't that hard to make it work.

 You will need SD with one ext3 partition. Download and unpack tarball
 from here [1] and boot with Qi [2]. First boot take quite a lot of time.
 Then it will be faster.

 You can also compile from sources [3] and put the rootfs together
 yourself. You just have to put together what is in
 out/target/product/freerunner directory and add kernel (either the
 Sean's [4] or andy tracking[5]). I have attached my script which does
 this [6]. Last this is to modify init.rc file so that it mounts SD card,
 you can find it attached or here [7].

 While Android boots or later you can attach to it with adb like this:

 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200
 adb kill-server
 adb shell
 adb logcat

 I hope this helps us with killing bugs that Android on FR currently has
 (suspend, power off, GSM crashes, ...)

 Cheers

 Radek

 [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/android/rootfs.tar.gz
 [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi
 [3] http://git.koolu.org/
 [4] http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/
 [5] http://people.openmoko.org/andy/
 [6] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/android/mk_rootfs.sh
 [7] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/android/init.rc


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[FSO] Disable system shut down on low Bat

2009-01-21 Thread Michael Tansella
Hi,

I'm using the latest FSO unstable build. If I've connected my Freerunner to my 
PC for developing I always use a cheap Battery and not the original Openmoko 
Battery. But because the cheap Battery is not recognised correctly FSO 
believes my Battery is empty and shuts the phone down after some minutes.
Is there any way to avoid this? Config File? DBUS API?

Greets
Michael

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Re: [Android] on SD card

2009-01-21 Thread Radek Polak

 it's very interesting! but is there a way for booting with uboot?
 thanks
 d

 ps i haven't tried android recently mainly cause the bigger kernel and
 my lazyness in changing uboot.
   
It could be possible from u-boot bootloader prompt.
You can check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot

According to Michael this is for booting from NAND:

bootargs_base=rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 
console=ttySAC2,115200 loglevel=8 regular_boot
bootcmd=setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} ${mtdparts}; nand read.e 
0x3200 kernel 0x30; bootm 0x3200

I am not sure if this is possible when kernel is on SD card.
You can try replace jffs2 with ext3 and /dev/mtdblock6 with
/dev/mmcblk0p2 and commands for loading kernel (nand read.e)
with their equivalent for SD card.

Good luck

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Re: [FSO] Disable system shut down on low Bat

2009-01-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Wednesday 21 January 2009 12:52:47 schrieb Michael Tansella:
 I'm using the latest FSO unstable build. If I've connected my Freerunner to
 my PC for developing I always use a cheap Battery and not the original
 Openmoko Battery. But because the cheap Battery is not recognised correctly
 FSO believes my Battery is empty and shuts the phone down after some
 minutes. Is there any way to avoid this? Config File? DBUS API?

Remove the shutdown on low battery rule 
from  /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml and restart.

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Re: [FSO] Disable system shut down on low Bat

2009-01-21 Thread Michael Tansella
 Remove the shutdown on low battery rule
 from  /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml and restart.

Thank you very much.
Best regards
Michael

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Re: [2008.12] Pause mplayer on call ?

2009-01-21 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/1/20 Dylan Reilly drei...@atariland.net

 Pausing mplayer is probably going to be problematic without re-writing
 it. Firstly, you would have to run it in slave mode so that you could
 write to the process using a pipe.


How about pausing and starting on a signal? No need to read from a pipe.
Probably a simple hack would do it.
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mencoder converts, but no sound ?

2009-01-21 Thread Lothar Behrens

Hi,

I am trying to convert a recorded VDR video with mencoder, but my FR  
gives no sound. Playing mp3 files

works.

Here is the command that I have from another post:

mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 -vf  
scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-0.25,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -ofps 15 - 
lameopts br=64:cbr -o $2


What am I doing wrong ?

Thanks

Lothar

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[Om2008.12] Check Internal / External Flash

2009-01-21 Thread boilers...@gmail.com
Hi All,

can you suggest a 'correct' way to scan both internal and external memories for 
bad blocks / hardware issues ?


Thanks for supporting,
have a nice day.
Mike

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Re: About the BRLCAD files I have created some time ago ...

2009-01-21 Thread Claus Christmann
On Friday 16 January 2009 08:42:30 Claus Christmann wrote:
 Please see inline and below...

 On Friday 16 January 2009 04:54:41 Pander wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  The download with the CAD file is a bit messy, I've a cleaned up
  version. To who can I send this for review and subsequent hosting on the
  downloads?
 
  Regards,
 
  Pander
 
  Lothar Behrens wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I wondered why there is no link to the BRLCAD files I have created and
   then located at the following
   page: http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html
  
   I only found the page by searching the mailinglist about BRLCAD, but
   this is because I KNOW about
   the existence of these files.
  
   Wouldn't it be better to add a page with information more than only a
   list of files generated by the browser ?
  
   http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/
  
   Then there could added more stuff like editing the files to create more
   stuff. Should I, am I allowed to do so ?
  
   Thanks
  
   Lothar
  
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  -

 Hi,

 I am the guy hosting the CAD files at the fore-mentioned address.
 All I did in the beginning was to take the ProE files and transform them
 into IGES and STEP files.

 I asked on the email list how to proceed and was then contacted by Michael
 Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org. I then made the files publicly available on
 my site (at http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html) and
 Michael moved the files from there to the
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ site.

 I guess there is no need for me to be the man in the middle, but I have
 the online space and can host the files there. If somebody has some more
 CAD files and wants to get them to me, just let me know in private. I could
 create a wiki page the points to my site, but I guess we should try to get
 Michael to transfer all the new files to http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/
 as well

 Comments?

 Thanks,

 Claus

Pander has send me the new files for BRLCAD (total of 131MB, .tar.bz2). I have 
put them on my CAD page:

https://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html

Please feel free to download the new files from there...

Claus

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Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hi!,

The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest and now
we want to share a version for Neo devices.

You can download the tar.gz package from :
http://linball.sf.net/linball-openmoko.tar.gz

The README-openmoko.txt file inside the package has the simple 
instructions, or at :
http://linball.sourceforge.net/README-openmoko.txt

Ah, the mandatory video to know how to play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5cycCaEdl0
But it is very easy: just use the touchscreen :-)

Have fun!

Rafa
PS. http://linball.sf.net is the home page.

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Re: About the BRLCAD files I have created some time ago ...

2009-01-21 Thread Pander
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Claus Christmann h...@gatech.edu writes:
 I am the guy hosting the CAD files at the fore-mentioned address.
 All I did in the beginning was to take the ProE files and transform them 
 into 
 IGES and STEP files.
 
 Any chance to get a PDF rendering of these? I fetched BRLCAD source
 code and created a debian package but could not quite figure out how
 to actually use it to view the CAD files :-)

Which is the file for the GTA02 back cover? And in that open source
application can I open ProE, IGES or STEP files. I know IGES can be
converted and opened in BRLCAD. Anyone yet successful in this and have
some insctruction how to do this?

 
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Re: Status of Opimd (FSO-PIM)...

2009-01-21 Thread Nicola Mfb
2009/1/20 Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com


 and the fso team delivered their prior milestones quite in time, so i do
 not understand, why everyone wants to know, since it should only take a
 couple of days till ms5 is out.


We are not asking about MS5 features, but simply we want to know vaguely how
many time we have to wait for a fso/based distro with pim capabilities..

Regards

   Nicola
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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Marcel
Am Wednesday 21 January 2009 16:28:34 schrieb Rafael Ignacio Zurita:
 Hi!,

 The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest and now
 we want to share a version for Neo devices.

 You can download the tar.gz package from :
 http://linball.sf.net/linball-openmoko.tar.gz

 The README-openmoko.txt file inside the package has the simple
 instructions, or at :
 http://linball.sourceforge.net/README-openmoko.txt

 Ah, the mandatory video to know how to play:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5cycCaEdl0
 But it is very easy: just use the touchscreen :-)

 Have fun!

 Rafa
 PS. http://linball.sf.net is the home page.

 --
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 Buenos Aires, Argentina

The first thing that comes to my mind seeing the video: Wouldn't it be cool 
(although kinda cheating) to control the direction of gravity with the 
accelerometers? :)

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Helge Hafting
Marcel wrote:

 The first thing that comes to my mind seeing the video: Wouldn't it be cool 
 (although kinda cheating) to control the direction of gravity with the 
 accelerometers? :)

TILT if this is overdone . . .

Helge Hafting

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Re: About the BRLCAD files I have created some time ago ...

2009-01-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net writes:
 Which is the file for the GTA02 back cover? And in that open source
 application can I open ProE, IGES or STEP files. I know IGES can be
 converted and opened in BRLCAD. Anyone yet successful in this and have
 some insctruction how to do this?

Pro/E files can not be opened without proprietary software afaik.

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Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?

2009-01-21 Thread Helge Hafting
Samuel Pereira wrote:
 Hi,
 
 If you check this page ...http://pimlico-project.org/dates.html
 
Looks nice. But can you (optionally, per event) have the phone remind 
you about the upcoming event? Play an alarm sound, and display meeting 
in 10 min.  Very useful, especially if the phone can wake up from 
suspended state to do this.

Helge Hafting

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
Good work but... could you provide an opk or ipk package and upload it 
to www.opkg.org? :D

Thanks,

Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
 Hi!,
 
 The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest and now
 we want to share a version for Neo devices.
 
 You can download the tar.gz package from :
 http://linball.sf.net/linball-openmoko.tar.gz
 
 The README-openmoko.txt file inside the package has the simple 
 instructions, or at :
 http://linball.sourceforge.net/README-openmoko.txt
 
 Ah, the mandatory video to know how to play:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5cycCaEdl0
 But it is very easy: just use the touchscreen :-)
 
 Have fun!
 
 Rafa
 PS. http://linball.sf.net is the home page.
 
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 Buenos Aires, Argentina
 
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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Marcel
Am Wednesday 21 January 2009 16:51:15 schrieb Helge Hafting:
 Marcel wrote:
  The first thing that comes to my mind seeing the video: Wouldn't it be
  cool (although kinda cheating) to control the direction of gravity with
  the accelerometers? :)

 TILT if this is overdone . . .

So better not try to play in a bus or the tube... *g*

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hah, fun game, thanks for it!!  An opk/ipk linked to opkg.org would be nice :)

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Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?

2009-01-21 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I was discussing how you might do this on IRC. The problem is when multiple
apps are trying to wake up from suspend; I understand the hwclock interrupt
can only have one value. You need a program managing a priority queue of
interrupts or the like. I suggested using cron for this, but I'm not strong
enough with the source to hack it myself. :P

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Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?

2009-01-21 Thread Yoann ARNAUD
Helge Hafting a écrit :
 Samuel Pereira wrote:
 Hi,

 If you check this page ...http://pimlico-project.org/dates.html

 Looks nice. But can you (optionally, per event) have the phone remind 
 you about the upcoming event? Play an alarm sound, and display meeting 
 in 10 min.  Very useful, especially if the phone can wake up from 
 suspended state to do this.

The reminder option is not in the version 0.1.0.

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I'd love to try it, but right now I'm somewhere where I desperately need an
easily accessible mute button. Please do implement. :)

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
--- On Wed, 1/21/09, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd love to try it, but right now I'm somewhere
 where I desperately need an
 easily accessible mute button. Please do implement. :)

Have you tried ./linball -h? :)

DISPLAY=:0 ./linball -f -n runs linball without sound and
super speed ;-)

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:37 PM, The Digital Pioneer
digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd love to try it, but right now I'm somewhere where I desperately need an
 easily accessible mute button. Please do implement. :)

Start it with -n for no sound
(see ./linball --help)

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Ahh, much better. :)

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Re: Yaouh! 0.2.1 is out now

2009-01-21 Thread Helge Hafting
Carlo Minucci wrote:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh%21
 
 i have fix some bug:
 * no output of curl and wget (no more x.log big)
 * fix break into while
 
 check and tell me other problem :)

Seems to work fine. The only output in x.log now is a single
wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
after looking at 900 of 5 files.

5 files will still take some time to check, but the
counting seems faster now. Not writing messages probably
helps.


Another idea: I can't always leave the phone connected to a net
for as long as this update takes. If yaouh get interrupted (app closed,
linux shutdown, network plug pulled, crash) then it could remember how 
far it got. And on the next start, continue from there instead of 
starting at
the first file each time.

Currently, short yaouh runs means that one corner of my map is very up 
to date, and not the rest. Continuing from the last stop would
even things out.

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Re: FrogPad Freerunner

2009-01-21 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Saturday 17 January 2009 08:05:26 you wrote:
 On 1/17/09 12:39 AM, Braydon Fuller wrote:
  Has anybody had any experience with this keyboard?
 
  http://www.frogpad.com/
  http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/6c82/zoom/
 
 
 My girlfriend is using one at work all the time and likes it a lot. It 
 takes some time to get used to though. It takes about 2 to 3 weeks to 
 get up to speed again, but learning dvorak is probably harder :)
 
 I'm also considering one in combination with a FR on the road for text 
 entry. Haven't tested it though, but it's just a regular USB-keyboard so 
 it should work just fine.
 
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I use dvorak on my PC and frogpad on my Neo.  They both took about the same 
amount of time to learn.  It took about a week to be able to type without 
frequently looking; about two weeks to get up to a functional speed (Like 
handwriting speed), and about two months of frequent usage to master it.

It interacts well with the phone, but if you're using the old bluez API you 
have to constantly stick a paperclip in the little hole to make it link up 
(It's not a big connect button like most bluetooth keyboards).  Newer bluez 
APIs allow you to register it as an input device and it can link up 
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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Samuel Pereira

Hi,

Thanks for the game.

I have created a install script that creates a desktop icon for launch 
the game.
Download the game and after download install script here: 
http://www.opkg.net/linball/linball-install.tar.gz


Before install, edit linball.sh and change linball_path, to the folder 
where you extract linball game.

See README for more notes.

Good games,

Samuel Pereira


Hi!,

The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest and now
we want to share a version for Neo devices.

You can download the tar.gz package from :
http://linball.sf.net/linball-openmoko.tar.gz

The README-openmoko.txt file inside the package has the simple 
instructions, or at :

http://linball.sourceforge.net/README-openmoko.txt

Ah, the mandatory video to know how to play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5cycCaEdl0
But it is very easy: just use the touchscreen :-)

Have fun!

Rafa
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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread The Digital Pioneer
OK, I'm using the later version of E17 and friends that Rasterman built and
sent out across this list a while back, and I'm not getting an icon for
Linball. I've edited the .desktop file several times, and the icons always
refresh, but Linball never shows up. :\

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Re: mencoder converts, but no sound ?

2009-01-21 Thread Leonti Bielski
What does mplayer says (in command line) about this while playing?

Leonti

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Lothar Behrens
lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote:
 Hi,
 I am trying to convert a recorded VDR video with mencoder, but my FR gives
 no sound. Playing mp3 files
 works.
 Here is the command that I have from another post:
 mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 -vf
 scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-0.25,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -ofps 15 -lameopts
 br=64:cbr -o $2
 What am I doing wrong ?
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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Samuel Pereira

you are using my script ?

do you change path for extracted game ?


OK, I'm using the later version of E17 and friends that Rasterman 
built and sent out across this list a while back, and I'm not getting 
an icon for Linball. I've edited the .desktop file several times, and 
the icons always refresh, but Linball never shows up. :\


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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Samuel Pereira

Yes, i have a bug...

On the .desktop file change Exec to this value Exec=linball.sh

Sorry, i have update the tar.gz online.


OK, I'm using the later version of E17 and friends that Rasterman 
built and sent out across this list a while back, and I'm not getting 
an icon for Linball. I've edited the .desktop file several times, and 
the icons always refresh, but Linball never shows up. :\


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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Samuel Pereira

Hi,

I have fixed the install script file, you can download again 
http://www.opkg.net/linball/linball-install.tar.gz


Thanks,
Samuel


OK, I'm using the later version of E17 and friends that Rasterman 
built and sent out across this list a while back, and I'm not getting 
an icon for Linball. I've edited the .desktop file several times, and 
the icons always refresh, but Linball never shows up. :\


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Re: [debian ] Bluetooth

2009-01-21 Thread Niel Drummond
dsca...@gmail.com wrote:
 i followed the wiki but with no result... do you have any tip or
 favourite application to let it work?
   

I think I picked the pieces together from various google searches - you 
probably need to install bluez and family of programs: apt-cache search 
bluez

I then used 'hcitool' to connect. I found this in my rc.local, so I 
guess it was also necessary:

echo 1  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on

echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset
hidd --search

there is probably a lot more I could do to make it secure...  you will 
probably also want to look into a custom keymap - 'loadkeys', 'showkey', 
'xev' and 'xmodmap' helped there. my only niggle at the moment is the X 
mappings seem a little jittery, not sure if that comes from updates or 
just me tweaking the wrong switch :-|

- Niel
 thanks
 d


 On 1/21/09, Niel Drummond niel.drumm...@grumpytoad.org wrote:
   
 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 
 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes:

   
 is there someone with a working bluetooth!??

 
 Yes, worked for me with the packaged kernel.

   
 yes, I am running debian with the dinovo mini logitech keyboard. it
 works flawlessly, thinking about strapping the phone to the back cover
 of the keyboard.

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I had already renamed linball.sh to linball :\

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[OM2008-12] Wireless interface won't accept the DHCP offer...

2009-01-21 Thread john dowd
I've configured the FR to use dhcp to get an IP address through the
wireless interface after it connects to the AP using WPA2. This has
been working for quite some time. I did have the occasional event
where the FR would get booted but it would just start cycling along
doing the dhcp discover and after a few minutes of this I would reboot
the FR and the next time up it would come and finish the connection
and I would have a good wireless connection to the FR.

I control both ends (I've created the AP using a laptop, USB wireless
dongle and the s/w application hostapd). The FR boots and negotiates
the wifi access but when it comes to the dhcp negotiation its failing.
I can see the AP listing the DHCP DISCOVER message and sending to the
FR (I know its the FR since the MAC address is correct) the DHCP
OFFER. The FR only prints the DHCP Discover message and never seems to
see the DHCP OFFER.

I haven't done any changes to the s/w on the FR and this problem
usually does go away after a few minutes but its now been a few hours
and doesn't seem to be fixing itself. I'm wondering what kind of
scenarios can occur where the dhcp client just can't use the dhcp
server's offer?

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Re: mencoder converts, but no sound ?

2009-01-21 Thread Lothar Behrens
I have used a special version with qlamo support. That version  
probably does not support sound ??


Now I am using the orginal version (2008.12) with the fbdev parameter  
instead. It is ok now.


I have some breakouts that may come from mplayer, but also may from  
memcoder. (I have a DVB-T USB stick)
Also I have a little bad signal strength. So it may mencoder to be the  
cause for the breakout. I am collecting the

logs of mencoder.

But in general, sound is available (using bluetooth).

All that streamed over WLAN from my VDR server :-)

FR is cool.

Lothar

Am 21.01.2009 um 20:41 schrieb Leonti Bielski:


What does mplayer says (in command line) about this while playing?

Leonti

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Lothar Behrens
lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to convert a recorded VDR video with mencoder, but my  
FR gives

no sound. Playing mp3 files
works.
Here is the command that I have from another post:
mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 -vf
scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-0.25,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -ofps 15 - 
lameopts

br=64:cbr -o $2
What am I doing wrong ?
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Re: [2008.12] Pause mplayer on call ?

2009-01-21 Thread Lothar Behrens

I don't know if -19 is pause and -18 may be resume. That may be the how.
But I don't know the when (the triggering of the kill command).

I know that qpe is the 'server' that handles the stuff, but I don't  
know yet how

to 'connect' to the events.

On Frameworkd there are some yaml files. Are there similar things for  
2008.12 ?


Lothar

Am 21.01.2009 um 20:57 schrieb Sander:


Michal Brzozowski wrote (ao):

  2009/1/20 Dylan Reilly [1]drei...@atariland.net
Pausing mplayer is probably going to be problematic without
re-writing
it. Firstly, you would have to run it in slave mode so that you
could
write to the process using a pipe.

  How about pausing and starting on a signal? No need to read from a
  pipe.  Probably a simple hack would do it.


You kan kill it with -19 to pause and -18 to resume. Would that help?

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massive forward progress

2009-01-21 Thread Harry L. Lee
I moved my freerunner host to new hardware and a new version of ubuntu
(jaunty jacalope) and the usb networking is vastly more stable, so i'm able
to play on the freerunner much more comfortably. what i think i'd like to do
is find a stock, working full on debian system that actually has working
wifi, annd usb that i can install wiith 2 flash operations, one for the
kernel, one for the file system (jffs2?) does such a thing exist?

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Alternative numeric keyboard

2009-01-21 Thread Pander
Hi all,

Have a look here for an alternative numeric keyboard:
  http://www.opkg.org/package_106.html
It is called illume-keyboards-numbers-alt

And have a look here:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#List_of_illume_keyboards
Perhaps someone can improve the procedure for creating keyboard icons.

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Re: massive forward progress

2009-01-21 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/22 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com:
 I moved my freerunner host to new hardware and a new version of ubuntu
 (jaunty jacalope) and the usb networking is vastly more stable, so i'm able
 to play on the freerunner much more comfortably. what i think i'd like to do
 is find a stock, working full on debian system that actually has working
 wifi, annd usb that i can install wiith 2 flash operations, one for the
 kernel, one for the file system (jffs2?) does such a thing exist?

the commonly-used debian for freerunner is not installed by flashing,
but from a sh script. more info here:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner

usb works. i didn't try wifi, but no reason why it shouldn't work,
there are free drivers for the hardware

hackable1 is based on debian, and is available as two flashable
images, tar.gz and experimental jffs2:

http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Main_Page

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New Android Release and Resources...

2009-01-21 Thread Brian Code
Greetings All,

I just wanted to let everyone know that there is a new release  
available at http://freerunner.android.koolu.com . In addition, the  
site contains the status of the project, where the project is headed  
as well as test lists and results.

As well as the new site, there are two other places for Android  
related information. An Android on Freerunner mailing list is now  
available at http://android.koolu.org/listinfo.cgi/android-freerunner-koolu.org 
  .

Lastly, there is a new IRC channel on Freenode.net where people are  
gathering to ask questions and provide peer support. #freerunner- 
android.

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Re: Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks

2009-01-21 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
All, Andreas,

Do you know about Funambol (www.forge.funambol.org)?
Can they be of help?

Greetings,

Jos vd Snepscheut

Andreas Willich wrote:
 Hi


 I am currently developing a sync app for the Neo. At the moment it only
 supports Microsoft Outlook (I had to use it in my office) and only took
 the data from Outlook and push it into the Neo. 

 But it has an addin interface for different PIM applications. So it
 should no big problem to add support for Sunbird. It depends on the way
 I have get the data out of it.

 I hope I can release a first version in the next two weeks.


 Regards
   Andreas

 On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 14:11 +0100, Pander wrote:
   
 Xavier Bestel wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:31 +0100, Yoann ARNAUD wrote:
   
 Pander a écrit :
 
 Hi all,

 Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and
 exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from Sunbird/Lightning?

 Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/
   
 Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet.

 http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html
 
 And from the Changelog, hasn't been touched since 2006 ...
   
 Here is more:
   http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/

 Anyone care to formulate with me a set of use cases / user stories for
 address, event and task functionality for OpenMoko and look into the
 already available apps and technologies and how the close that gap?

 The PIM (Personal Information Management) support for OpenMoko should
 get roadmap and some serious efforts to improve this.

 Anyone?

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running debian install.h

2009-01-21 Thread Harry L. Lee
how long does it sit at ?
***
* WARNING *
***

This will destroy all the data on the microSD card!!!

Press any key within 5 seconds to quit


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can anyone clue me in on how the install.sh script works? it

2009-01-21 Thread Harry L. Lee
it appears to be an xml file to me.

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[debian] install.sh questions

2009-01-21 Thread Harry L. Lee
install.sh questions:
first, how does this thing work? it looks like xml to me.
how long does it sit at:
Starting to partition the microSD card

***
* WARNING *
***

This will destroy all the data on the microSD card!!!

Press any key within 5 seconds to quit

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Re: New Android Release and Resources...

2009-01-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Brian Code wrote:
 As well as the new site, there are two other places for Android  
 related information. An Android on Freerunner mailing list is now  
 available at 
 http://android.koolu.org/listinfo.cgi/android-freerunner-koolu.org 

Cool. I've added it to gmane too.
It's available as:
 gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.android-freerunner
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[debian] finally, it said:

2009-01-21 Thread Harry L. Lee
Press any key within 5 seconds to quit
Read from remote host fr: Connection timed out
Connection to fr closed.


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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:
 Hi!,
 
 The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest and now
 we want to share a version for Neo devices.

Nice... However I've a feature to suggest to simulate the dual-touch
(and so to use both the right and the left flippers together):

Simply, while playing, move away the play option and then place
between the left flipper and the right flipper buttons a listener
for the mouse pointer (something like an event box).
So, if the pointer is between the right and the left flipper (i.e. if
the user is pressing on both the flippers), you sould make both the
flippers move. Maybe you could also decide which one should move before
than the other looking where the mouse is (if it is more on the right or
on the left).

Nice work, btw!

PS: what about a little bigger screen too? :)

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Re: Linball (Linux Pinball) game on Openmoko Neo

2009-01-21 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hello Marco,

--- On Wed, 1/21/09, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote:
  The last year we wrote a pinball game for a contest
 and now
  we want to share a version for Neo devices.
 
 Nice... However I've a feature to suggest to simulate
 the dual-touch
 (and so to use both the right and the left flippers
 together):
 
 Simply, while playing, move away the play
 option and then place
 between the left flipper and the right
 flipper buttons a listener
 for the mouse pointer (something like an event box).
 So, if the pointer is between the right and the left
 flipper (i.e. if
 the user is pressing on both the flippers), you sould make
 both the
 flippers move. Maybe you could also decide which one should
 move before
 than the other looking where the mouse is (if it is more on
 the right or
 on the left).

Good idea :) I was thinking about dual-touch but I didn't like
my ideas, so I am going to develop your idea if there is not
another bettter ;-)


 PS: what about a little bigger screen too? :)

Yeah, we would like more size eh? :) But when I work with scroll
and bigger sizes the game is not fluent :( 
I started with a smaller size and I after some improvements in the
code I got the current size.. I am not sure if I will be able 
to have nice scroll with bigger sizes, but I will my best ;-)
(we already know the problems with graphics there).

Moreover I could avoid the scroll using the whole screen but
I like the scroll because the game loses action if the table
is fixed and only the ball is moving.

Thanks for your feedback, 

Rafa

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Buenos Aires, Argentina


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Re: [debian] install.sh questions

2009-01-21 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/22 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com:
 install.sh questions:
 first, how does this thing work? it looks like xml to me.

i thought bash, hence the .sh extension

 how long does it sit at:
 Starting to partition the microSD card

 ***
 * WARNING *
 ***

 This will destroy all the data on the microSD card!!!

 Press any key within 5 seconds to quit

generally 5 seconds

 is this dependent on the size of the card?

no, nothing has been done to the card at this point

are you sure it's got a connection to the net? try pinging a site
before you run the script

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Meetup of people interested in the OpenMoko, and other open hardware

2009-01-21 Thread Gora Mohanty
Hi,
  Below is a copy of the message sent to local LUG lists
in Delhi, India. We are having a meeting of people
interested in the OpenMoko, and in other hardware, as per
the details below. All are welcome to participate.

Regards,
Gora

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:58:02 +0530
From: Gora Mohanty g...@sarai.net
To: ILUGD main list il...@lists.linux-delhi.org
Cc: General Freed list fr...@lists.linux-delhi.org, Free/Libre and Open 
Source Software Project List p...@sarai.net
Subject: Meetup of people interested in the OpenMoko, and other open hardware


Hi,
  Some people interested in the OpenMoko are planning to
meet up at the new micro-brewery in Gurgaon on the 31st
of Jan., the Sat. after the coming one. Everyone is
welcome to attend, especially people interested in other
open-source hardware, or others looking to get involved.
Please see details below:

   Event:OpenMoko enthusiasts meeting
   Date: Sat., Jan 31st
   Time: 6.30pm onwards
   Agenda:   Get-together of people interested in the
 OpenMoko, and other open-source hardware
   Participants: All on this list
   Venue:Howzzat: The micro-brewry pub in Gurgaon.
 Galaxy Mall, behind the 32nd Milestone place.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.4629lon=77.0489zoom=16layers=B000FTF
   Contact:  Me (9868527992)

Regards,
Gora

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[debian]

2009-01-21 Thread Harry L. Lee
has anyone here actually compiled debian on the freerunner?
details?

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http://jonesnose.com
mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com
207-384-8030 (email preferred)
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Re: [debian]

2009-01-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com writes:
 has anyone here actually compiled debian on the freerunner?
 details?

Compiled debian? The whole archive or specific package?


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Re: [debian] install.sh questions

2009-01-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes:
 i thought bash, hence the .sh extension

It's /bin/sh, not bash specific actually.


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Re: [debian]

2009-01-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
[ replying on-list ]

Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com writes:
 eithyer, preferably the whole thing

You probably want to _install_ debian, not _compile_ it. And you can't
every single package, that would be much more than the largest SD card
can handle.

Anyways, what options did you give to install.sh? ./install.sh all?


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