yes the framework has some important change... Michele Renda said some time
ago he would have released some updated version, but right now no news :-(
sephora is very useful, i really hope for an update from michele ;-)
d
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 3:01 PM, vale wrote:
>
> Hi i am using Debian and
SHR use plain gtk+, not gtk+-fastscaling, just use --force-depends in the opkg
2009/1/26 Alex Tsui :
> Hello,
>
> from SHR I tried installing the vala-terminal from opkg but I get an
> error from a missing dependency:
>
> r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install
> http://www.opkg.org/packages/vala-terminal_
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Come on, this thing is slow! Scrolling has a 2 sec latency! Totally unusable
> for me.
This is a bug with recent e17 and andy-tracking we noticed last week.
We can't upgrade e17 right now because there is a slight change on
elementary w
Hello,
from SHR I tried installing the vala-terminal from opkg but I get an
error from a missing dependency:
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install
http://www.opkg.org/packages/vala-terminal_1.1.1-r0.1_armv4t.opk
Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/vala-terminal_1.1.1-r0.1_armv4t.opk
Multiple packag
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:10:54 -0600, The Digital Pioneer
wrote:
> Indeed, GPS fixes are tough to get, but they can be done. Just out of
> curiosity, can the telco really do all that passive triangulation (or
more
> importantly, can I) they talk about in the movies? :P
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> The Dig
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:47:05 +0800, HouYu Li wrote:
> Hurray! the latest SHR unstable version is great!
> Some minor problems:
>
> Contacts and Messages not working when there is no SIM card.
> The "Suspend" button not work.
The current Contacts and Messages both depend on the SIM - it holds the
The Digital Pioneer пишет:
> This is an excellent idea. I've been wondering about this. If I had
> GPRS, I would SSH in (possible? Getting the IP would be tricky) and pull
> GPS coordinates. But I don't have GPRS. I think it would be good to
> implement some kind of SIM-based security, along wit
Hi all,
Does anyone know if there's any updates for Qt Extended in the pipeline ?
Lorn wrote back in early December that he was hoping to get a snapshot release
out by the 21st December, but there's been nothing since.. :-(
I know that Nokia decided to GPL Qt so I wonder if that has delayed thi
Apparently yes: here in Oz you can go to your telco and get the phone
disabled if its been stolen - (tahts the phone itself, not the SIM is
prevented from connecting - via IMIE I think). The cops can get
location info, thoughs it is apparently more like "somewhere about
there" in accuracy.
Thats
Indeed, GPS fixes are tough to get, but they can be done. Just out of
curiosity, can the telco really do all that passive triangulation (or more
importantly, can I) they talk about in the movies? :P
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Problem with gps is that its slow to get a fix, sometimes very slow, and
the phone may (probably?) be indoors or a car much of the time - so
waiting for a fix is going to be a problem.
Trigger with an "unknown" SIM card. Send a first "panic, I've been
stolen!" sms message with as much detail as
Does Illume recognize it? Judging by the way to start it, I would guess
not... :\
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This is an excellent idea. I've been wondering about this. If I had GPRS, I
would SSH in (possible? Getting the IP would be tricky) and pull GPS
coordinates. But I don't have GPRS. I think it would be good to implement
some kind of SIM-based security, along with a way to send some kind of panic
SMS
Hurray! the latest SHR unstable version is great!
Some minor problems:
Contacts and Messages not working when there is no SIM card.
The "Suspend" button not work.
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:43 AM, William Kenworthy wrote:
> Tomas, can you look at bug #2215 and see if you have the same problem I
>
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Neil Jerram wrote:
> 2009/1/25 Paul Fertser :
> > Neil Jerram writes:
> >>
> >> The right client could handle that for you; as Google Mail (for example)
> does.
> >
> > Are you serious? Quotes are needed to remember context but you suggest
> > to quote the whole
Hello,
Am Sonntag, 25. Januar 2009 schrieb Fernando Martins:
> I got a new SD card. Which file system is the best?
>
> In general, vfat or ext2 are the most recommended.
>
> Vfat might already be the fs in your card when you got a new one. It has
> the advantage of being recognised in many othe
2009/1/26 fredrik normann :
> I'm a bit sad today, yesterday someone stole my phone. I helped a guy in the
> street calling his girlfriend, (or that what he said) and when I got
> distracted by a friend of him that asked for a cigarette he just ran
> away I can only blame my self for being stup
Hi,
I use the http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/
and so recently python got upgraded from 2.5 to 2.6.
This broke pygtk as that is still expecting python-2.5 to be
present. but it isn't.
I "fixed" that with a few symlinks, but problems continued.
In particular, 'ssl.py' doesn
A while back I made a finger friendly keyboard for the Freerunner,
I tried to make it as finger friendly as possible and use as much screen
space for buttons.
but since I was using xte to send the keys to applications it didn't work
under the
Openmoko OS (I was using Debian and Hackable1)
But, I
This sounds like a modified version of sms-entry:
http://www.opkg.org/package_92.html
Sorry to here you've lost yours.
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, George Brooke
wrote:
> On Sunday 25 January 2009 23:47:07 fredrik normann wrote:
> > This episode made me think of having some kind of tracking program.
> Don't worry, just wait until he turns up here asking for help with the
> phone
> he just stole...
lol
The p
On Sunday 25 January 2009 23:47:07 fredrik normann wrote:
> This episode made me think of having some kind of tracking program.
Don't worry, just wait until he turns up here asking for help with the phone
he just stole...
solar.george
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I'm a bit sad today, yesterday someone stole my phone. I helped a guy in the
street calling his girlfriend, (or that what he said) and when I got
distracted by a friend of him that asked for a cigarette he just ran
away I can only blame my self for being stupid This happend in
Montevideo Ur
Tomas, can you look at bug #2215 and see if you have the same problem I
have - serial comms with the GSM chip?
BillK
On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 16:31 +, Michael Sheldon wrote:
> Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
> > so i had to remove the battery and start the phone
> > again. After that the dialer ap
On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 15:15 +0100, Fernando Martins wrote:
> Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:
> > William Kenworthy ha scritto:
> >
> >> I found vfat clearly better (less susceptible to corruption) than ext2,
> >> however ext3 is better than vfat, but will still play up at times.
> >> Using it f
2009/1/25 Timo Juhani Lindfors :
> Neil Jerram writes:
>> The right client could handle that for you; as Google Mail (for example)
>> does.
>
> But gmail is proprietary software so it doesn't count :-)
That is a good point, which I think I've been ignoring without even
realizing it, until now; t
Hello Kris,
Thanks a million!! What a laugh! I use it on OM2008.12. I'm starting it
up with a dirty little script to set
/sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold value to 5 during play, and
to then set it back to whatever the value was before. Thanks to matthias
for this tip.
--start---
#!/
Thanks, makes sense.
BillK
On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 14:30 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Sunday 25 January 2009 09:40:57 schrieb William Kenworthy:
> > Does anyone have an idea what the meaning of the last digit is?
> >
> > (watch screen wrap :)
> > Feb 1 09:11:42 om-gta02 user.notice ro
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 4:04:27 am Alexander Frøyseth wrote:
> I use QtE 4.4.2 and have no echo with this fix:
> http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-
on-openmoko-neo
Thanks for confirming it works for you too!
> No problem with the sound either (I use only this
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 3:56:26 am Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:
> My point is: journal could avoid errors and prevent some corruption, ok
> nothing to say about that.
Journals are really to allow the filesystem to present a consistent view after
a crash or failure and to try and avoid lengthy fs
Aapo Rantalainen writes:
> I think it is the best terminal in phone, but let me know if it miss
> something (at least join in discussion about color of background).
$ git clone http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=vala-terminal.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /home/lindi/tmp/?p=vala-terminal/
Jonathan Marsaud wrote:
> Why is it related to OpenMoko Community? *sigh*
>
i suspect its another spam, similar to the earlier one.
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arne anka wrote:
> if it is not yet in the wiki, somebody should probably gather the bits
> from the archives and put it there -- it seem to be a rather recurrent
> question.
>
>
I wrote the following text which I can put somewhere in the wiki. Since
I'm no authority on the matter, I would
Vala-terminal works (tested) with Om2008.12 and Debian.
http://www.opkg.org/package_112.html
I think it is the best terminal in phone, but let me know if it miss
something (at least join in discussion about color of background).
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Vala-terminal
-Aapo Rantalainen
I have always used the gps.py module that is included with linux on my
desktop distros (debian, ubuntu etc). It can usually be found here:
/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gps.py
I am dunning Debian on my Freerunner, I copied gps.py from my desktop to the
same location on the phone and it works
Maybe this could be helpfully.
If I launch ophonekitd from ssh, suspend it with ctrl+z, and then if i wait
some seconds and bring it to foreground the ophonekitd doesn't't crash.
This is what I have done.
Some seconds after the FR boots. I make a ssh conection and test if
ophonekitd is still runnin
>
> From: Sean McNeil
> Date: January 24, 2009 6:32:28 PM PST
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
>
> Subject: Re: which file system for sd card?
> Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion
>
>
>
> thewire wrote:
>> The Digital Pioneer пишет:
>>
>>> The only reason they come
>
> From: Neil Jerram
> Date: January 24, 2009 2:21:45 PM PST
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
>
> Subject: Re: Is there an echo-free distro?
> Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion
>
>
>
> 2009/1/23 ezuall :
>>
>> Thanks for that, I will give that new SHR distro a try
>
> From: thewire
> Date: January 24, 2009 3:32:54 PM PST
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
>
> Subject: Re: which file system for sd card?
> Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion
>
>
>
> The Digital Pioneer пишет:
>> The only reason they come with FAT is so windoze can
I really don't care what type of sun tanning lotion they are using.
But there's not much you can do about forged headers and open relays.
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On Jan 25, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
And perhaps for ope
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, arne anka wrote:
> the best course of action, is to delete an forget it, the subject is a
> pretty good hint ...
And perhaps for openmoko to start publishing SPF records
Paul
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On Sunday 25 January 2009 17:47:00 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Neil Jerram writes:
> > The right client could handle that for you; as Google Mail (for example)
> > does.
>
> But gmail is proprietary software so it doesn't count :-)
KMail
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Neil Jerram writes:
> The right client could handle that for you; as Google Mail (for example) does.
But gmail is proprietary software so it doesn't count :-)
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Michael Sheldon escribió:
> Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
>
>> so i had to remove the battery and start the phone
>> again. After that the dialer app has never worked (crashes all the
>> time), and neither does contacts or anything that accesses the SIM
>>
>
> Have you checked to make
Yogiz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently using a quite customized but up to date version of
> Om2008.9 testing (equal to Om2008.12?). It otherwise wonderful but I
> still can't use the Freerunner as a normal cellphone with it yet as I
> still get echo on the other side both for calls coming in and for
Am Sunday 25 January 2009 17:46:47 schrieb George Brooke:
> On Sunday 25 January 2009 16:29:26 Jonathan Marsaud wrote:
> > Why is it related to OpenMoko Community? *sigh*
>
> Its another one with faked headers (it also appeared on announce), don't
> see what they hope to achieve by targeting OM tho
Fernando Martins ha scritto:
> Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:
>> William Kenworthy ha scritto:
>>
>>> I found vfat clearly better (less susceptible to corruption) than ext2,
>>> however ext3 is better than vfat, but will still play up at times.
>>> Using it for OSM maps
>>>
>>> BillK
>>>
On Sunday 25 January 2009 16:29:26 Jonathan Marsaud wrote:
> Why is it related to OpenMoko Community? *sigh*
Its another one with faked headers (it also appeared on announce), don't see
what they hope to achieve by targeting OM though.
solar.george
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2009/1/25 Paul Fertser :
> Neil Jerram writes:
>>
>> The right client could handle that for you; as Google Mail (for example)
>> does.
>
> Are you serious? Quotes are needed to remember context but you suggest
> to quote the whole mail with no apparent reason and to hide them
> later? WTF?
I thi
> Why is it related to OpenMoko Community? *sigh*
please! think twice be adding to that spam! it's simply forged -- and
since the archives are avaliable a bot easily compiles a list of both
lists and addresses to send spam elsewhere.
the best course of action, is to delete an forget it, the su
2009/1/25 Michael Sheldon
> Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
> > so i had to remove the battery and start the phone
> > again. After that the dialer app has never worked (crashes all the
> > time), and neither does contacts or anything that accesses the SIM
>
> Have you checked to make sure that yo
2009/1/25 Tomas Riveros Schober :
> until I tried to start
> numptyphysics (meaning I could send and receive calls without any
> issues, and they were echo-free). After starting numpty, the neo crashed
> badly i.e. screen not responding and filled with different colors
> vertical lines, so i had t
I can confirm crashes. And I think it's a problem with ophonekitd:
When It just turns on if I search for the process ophonekitd I get:
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ ps aux |grep ophone
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2009/1/25 wp :
> Well, it's as I said: gsm is not working for me and these programs
> still crash. Maybe it's because of my provider, dunno.
Since writing what I wrote earlier, I've had one of those crashes too,
when writing a message. I think it was when I tried to switch
keyboards. So, sorry f
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
> so i had to remove the battery and start the phone
> again. After that the dialer app has never worked (crashes all the
> time), and neither does contacts or anything that accesses the SIM
Have you checked to make sure that your SIM is seated correctly? Try
remo
Why is it related to OpenMoko Community? *sigh*
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Obama The Judas Goat
1/25/2009
By David Duke
Judas Goat\ A goat that leads other goats or sheep to slaughter. Also, one who
entices into danger and betrays others. The name is an allusion to Judas
Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of slaughter. (From Merriam
Websters Dictionary)
Ba
wp escribió:
> I'm using shr-unstable aswell, but from 13th january. Newer versions
> have not working gsm, and have that very annoying issue "program
> crashed and left no error log" when accesing contacts or messages. I'm
> flashing every new images to see if it is solved, because this the
> be
Paul Fertser wrote:
> I'm so tired of all that over-quoting and top-posting! Can't you
> people have a little respect for others? Take a look at RFC1855, at
> least it has some sane reasoning.
>
>
Well, since it is weekend I went to check TFM for you :-).
I guess the relevant parts are:
- I
Thanks for pointing me at SHR unstable. I tried SHR in December, but this
time my first 2 calls have been echo free, so that is good. I will,
thankfully, be using my Freerunner as my daily phone this week.
Cheers
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I have the same problem, and I've tried several versions and it only
showed one image once, but then never again :)
When starting epsilon_thumbd manually nothing really special happens.
i.e. the messages about "connect(): no such file or directory is still
there"
Sometimes I also get:
"Invalid fi
> I'm so tired of all that over-quoting and top-posting! Can't you
> people have a little respect for others? Take a look at RFC1855, at
> least it has some sane reasoning.
Please allow me to quote RFC1855 at you;
- A good rule of thumb: Be conservative in what you send and
liberal in what
And yet another thing to note is that the Messages app doesn't refresh when
a new sms comes. Need to restart Messages.
2009/1/25 wp
> Ok, ophonekitd solved the problem.
>
> >
> > GSM is not controlable? I'm a developer of new shr-settings app, and
> > GSM works for me. What problems do you have?
Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:
> William Kenworthy ha scritto:
>
>> I found vfat clearly better (less susceptible to corruption) than ext2,
>> however ext3 is better than vfat, but will still play up at times.
>> Using it for OSM maps
>>
>> BillK
>>
>
> IMHO the best fs for sd is vfat if
Sean McNeil wrote:
> Neither of those filesystems are appropriate for sd cards. They have
> wear leveling logic that is not necessary or a good thing as it is
> already done in firmware for sd. An efficient journaled filesystem not
> designed for memory devices (like ext3) would be best.
>
>
Neil Jerram writes:
> 2009/1/25 arne anka :
ps: please cut the mail to the necessary minimum when replying.
>>> Sure, didn't realise it was an issue. Is it for bandwith/storage,
>>> readibility or something else?
>>
>> well, it is a tad annoying -- to have mail that stretches over sever
Am Sunday 25 January 2009 09:40:57 schrieb William Kenworthy:
> Does anyone have an idea what the meaning of the last digit is?
>
> (watch screen wrap :)
> Feb 1 09:11:42 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : N : "%CSQ: 99, 99,
> 0"
>
> The first 99 is signal strength (99=unknown), second is BER
>
Ok, ophonekitd solved the problem.
>
> GSM is not controlable? I'm a developer of new shr-settings app, and
> GSM works for me. What problems do you have?
> If after click on "GSM" button nothing is displayed, then GSM resource
> is disabled - you have to run ophonekitd from console. (i commited
>
> If someone interested, i have packaged e17 for debian, you can download
> it on www.mikecrash.com
Maybe you are interested in helping debian pkg-e team in making official
packages?
The issues are:
- large package base, and extremely low manpower in the team;
- constant API breakages in e lib
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
|> are you sure this isn't just the synchronization events?
|
| For me the problem looks like this.
|
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| 0006 -> Seperator time 1
| 0006 0002 00
> these issues with image form 13 january too, but I could turn on and
> off gsm in settings; newer images have other settings manager and gsm
> is not controlable through it yet.
GSM is not controlable? I'm a developer of new shr-settings app, and
GSM works for me. What problems do you have?
If a
> are you sure this isn't just the synchronization events?
For me the problem looks like this.
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0006 -> Seperator time 1
0006 0002 0048 -> Value X1
0006 0002 0001 0024 -> Value Y1
0006 0002 0002 0396 -
I tried wkalrm by Werner Almesberger and it works without problems. I
don't know where i found it so i attached it to this mail.
Ciao,
Rainer
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> Hi
>
> I see, rtcwake does not work on freerunner:
>
> freerunner:~# rtcwake -s 30
> rtcwake: /dev/rtc0 not enabled f
"Nikita V. Youshchenko" writes:
> Is there any working methond to make freerunner suspend sleep and later
> wakeup not later than at a given moment?
Yes.
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Hi..
> I bought a 2GB sd card which came formatted with FAT. Is this a good
> option for the sd card or is it advisable to use another fs? I'm using
> it for osm maps.
My experience: I had trouble with FAT and OSM maps.. it became read-only
after a
Well, it's as I said: gsm is not working for me and these programs
still crash. Maybe it's because of my provider, dunno. I was having
these issues with image form 13 january too, but I could turn on and
off gsm in settings; newer images have other settings manager and gsm
is not controlable throug
Hi
I see, rtcwake does not work on freerunner:
freerunner:~# rtcwake -s 30
rtcwake: /dev/rtc0 not enabled for wakeup events
Is there any working methond to make freerunner suspend sleep and later
wakeup not later than at a given moment?
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Well, I'll give it a try once more and leave it for an hour to see if
it can register correctly. I can always flash it back ;)
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Neil Jerram wrote:
> 2009/1/25 wp :
>> I'm using shr-unstable aswell, but from 13th january. Newer versions
>> have not working gsm, and
> Not having the journal imlies a redouced number of write to sd and a
> reduced probability to get the data lost.
this discusion has in some extend token place a while ago (community or
support archives should have it ready, look for wear leveling) and it was
widely agreed upon, that with mod
2009/1/25 wp :
> I'm using shr-unstable aswell, but from 13th january. Newer versions
> have not working gsm, and have that very annoying issue "program
> crashed and left no error log" when accesing contacts or messages. I'm
> flashing every new images to see if it is solved, because this the
> be
I'm using shr-unstable aswell, but from 13th january. Newer versions
have not working gsm, and have that very annoying issue "program
crashed and left no error log" when accesing contacts or messages. I'm
flashing every new images to see if it is solved, because this the
best distribution I used so
> ImportError: libevas.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file
> or directory
>
>
> Some idea?
Your upgrade was incomplete. In particular, python-evas was not upgraded to
the version using newer evas library package.
Please run apt-get dist-upgrade, and if it won't help, post here the
Another issue I noticed is the illume keyboard is very slow. Sometimes it
freezes for 2 seconds, usually on the 2-3 letter. I don't remember having
this on Om2008.12
2009/1/24 Richy
> Same here!
>
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 23:08, Neil Jerram
> wrote:
> > 2009/1/24 Petr Vanek :
> You can
On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 12:20 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> William Kenworthy writes:
> > Does anyone have an idea what the meaning of the last digit is?
> >
> > (watch screen wrap :)
> > Feb 1 09:11:42 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : N : "%CSQ: 99, 99,
> > 0"
> >
> > The first 99 is s
William Kenworthy writes:
> Does anyone have an idea what the meaning of the last digit is?
>
> (watch screen wrap :)
> Feb 1 09:11:42 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : N : "%CSQ: 99, 99,
> 0"
>
> The first 99 is signal strength (99=unknown), second is BER
> (99=undetectable) but all the guid
2009/1/25 arne anka :
>>> ps: please cut the mail to the necessary minimum when replying.
>>>
>>>
>> Sure, didn't realise it was an issue. Is it for bandwith/storage,
>> readibility or something else?
>
> well, it is a tad annoying -- to have mail that stretches over several
> pages with basically
William Kenworthy ha scritto:
> I found vfat clearly better (less susceptible to corruption) than ext2,
> however ext3 is better than vfat, but will still play up at times.
> Using it for OSM maps
>
> BillK
IMHO the best fs for sd is vfat if you don't care about permission, so
if you have to put
Does anyone have an idea what the meaning of the last digit is?
(watch screen wrap :)
Feb 1 09:11:42 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : N : "%CSQ: 99, 99,
0"
The first 99 is signal strength (99=unknown), second is BER
(99=undetectable) but all the guides Ive looked at dont mention the
third -
Brock writes:
> I extracted it and dropped it into place to work in debian. I've been
> using it for several days and like this layout quite a bit... I threw in
> a fuzz factor of 60 for sloppy slapping the keyboard, works great.
>
Same here, on Debian. Haven't tried the fuzz factor yet but we'l
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