Re: [om2009] - opkg update && opkg upgrade fork failed

2009-04-16 Thread blokkie
Greetings earthlings Some errors I collected from upgrading the om2009 testing image , maybe it's usefull for later images ? Error : Upgrading paroli on root from 0.2.1+gitr91+ba44a8738f444f6ca3ff42a4173d9178e4202b04-r9 to 0.2.1+gitr94+8800d8d645b21499259e6a2d0fb4a45562a8f9bd-r11... Down

eBay SIM card -> More than one phone number?

2009-04-16 Thread Pablo Miño
Dear friends, I saw in eBay a 6-in-1 SIM card, they say that it can store up to 6 SIM in the chip. Is it possible to have 6 active phone numbers in one device using this card? Some how you should transfer each SIM information to this special card. Is it possible to copy one SIM into another? Tha

Re: how do i turn the phone off?

2009-04-16 Thread clare johnstone
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:44 AM, wrote: > clare johnstone wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:34 AM, wrote: >>> clare johnstone wrote: >> ... I do however, especially with the GTA01, always remove the battery at this stage, and only replace it when I want to restart. >>> Just hold

Re: Problems building fso-paroli

2009-04-16 Thread Stephen LePage
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Angus Ainslie wrote: > On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 21:40 -0400, Stephen LePage wrote: > > > > > >Branch: org.openembedded.dev > >Machine: om-gta02 > >Distro:openmoko > > > > > > >branch needs to be fso/milestone5 or fso/milestone5.5 > > > > >Angus > > T

Re: [shr-unstable] connman as central connection manager?

2009-04-16 Thread Hermann Lacheiner
2009/4/16 Johny Tenfinger : > I want to implement WiFi manager in SHR Settings using connman. Stay tuned ;) Nice! I am looking forward ;) Maybe we can join forces to implement a wifi manager? Or do you have already a code to test? ___ Openmoko communit

Re: Om2009 testing images

2009-04-16 Thread Erik Geiger
Hi, really nice. It works really stable here. But what I can't understand is, why paroli. What about zhone? What I mean, what is the advantage of paroli? It's not the look ;-) In zhone it's more intuitive to switch profiles, you have a lock and it also works without fullscreen. In paroli the d

Re: shr - messages + wsod

2009-04-16 Thread Vinzenz Hersche
hey nelson, yes, i'm shure.. it's not a lot, but sometimes it appears.. :/ there was also a mail in the mailing list, called "wsod is back" with the same expiriences.. think, it was before 2 weeks.. hope, in the stable release, wsod is dead forever :) greets On Donnerstag 16 April 2009 17:58:4

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-16 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:45:39 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > (install instructions and script updated on 2090416: see below) > > Install instructions: > = > download the script > http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/openmoko_install.sh , read the > comments at the top and

R: Re: [QtExtended] how to import contacts

2009-04-16 Thread nar...@iol.it
Thanks Franky! I used the first method and it works fine. Great work michele >Messaggio originale >Da: liede...@telenet.be >Data: 16/04/2009 18.06 >A: >Cc: "nar...@iol.it", "List for Openmoko community discussion" >Ogg: Re: [QtExtended] how to import contacts > >On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 1

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Now testing is equal unstable ;) And before that unstable was more stable than testing :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [QT Moko] MP3 support

2009-04-16 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
you forget to add some strong words at the end of the sentence :P I have eared them in your mind from here :) 2009/4/16 Christoph Pulster : >> It would be interesting to know exactly what the mp3 patents cover. > > You can ask www.sisvel.it about it, holder of the patents. > > Christoph > > _

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Konstantin
Johny Tenfinger schrieb: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 16:47, Bram Neijt wrote: >> As for SHR you mention, I didn't want to try SHR because the wiki[1] >> states: >> "GSM network is lost after one day of uptime: restart your FR once a >> day!" >> in the list of known issues. But maybe I should give it

Re: [OM2009] Using fso-image instead of fso-paroli

2009-04-16 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 18:35 +0200, François TOURDE wrote: > Hi, > > First, about future distrib: Whaouh! What a great job Nice work ! > Thanks, I'll tell Mirko, Mickey and Nelson too > And now, a few questions: > > 1) I use fso-image instead of fso-paroli, because I'll be able to launch

Re: distance between the two accelermeters

2009-04-16 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 16. April 2009 schrieb Anas Alzouhbi: > Hi! > I'm trying to do an application that measure the angular velocity, > using the two accelerometers of openmoko > so anyone know what is the distance between the two accelerometers?? 88mm chip-center to center /j signature.asc Description: This

Re: [om2009] - send SMS GUI logic

2009-04-16 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 15. April 2009 schrieb Steve Mosher: > My samsung allows both methods. Same on Nokia /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.or

Re: Om2009 testing images

2009-04-16 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 19:26 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: >Are there any chances of building a more recent U-Boot? The one you are > shipping is 8 months old (2008-08-10). > Yes there are I'll make sure a more recent one is built. Good catch Angus ___

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-16 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:53:36 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > > Although I found something weird: incoming calls say this: > Name: unknown > Number: Contact-name/m > > But when I call that number from the incoming-call list, that of > course didn't work (it said: Dialing 'A', and that numbe

Re: Om2009 testing images

2009-04-16 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:34:51PM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: > As part of the Om2009 release plan testing images were going to start at > the beginning of April. For those brave souls that would like to help us > test Paroli, FSO milestone 5.5 and the Om2009.1 kernel there is a Om2009 > informati

[OM2009] Using fso-image instead of fso-paroli

2009-04-16 Thread François TOURDE
Hi, First, about future distrib: Whaouh! What a great job Nice work ! And now, a few questions: 1) I use fso-image instead of fso-paroli, because I'll be able to launch other apps. But I don't know how to auto-lauch Paroli. I've tried to do something like for zhone (i.e. a file in /etc/X11

Re: [QtExtended] how to import contacts

2009-04-16 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:38:25 +0200 (CEST) "nar...@iol.it" wrote: > Hi all, > I'm running qtextended improved as explained by Franky in the post > "[QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7"; I need to import > my contacts (from vcf formats) in order to use it as a daily phone > and to ma

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 16:47, Bram Neijt wrote: > As for SHR you mention, I didn't want to try SHR because the wiki[1] > states: > "GSM network is lost after one day of uptime: restart your FR once a > day!" > in the list of known issues. But maybe I should give it a try after all. I don't know

Re: shr - messages + wsod

2009-04-16 Thread Nelson Castillo
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Vinzenz Hersche wrote: > hello there, > i saw, the shr-team isn't work fast in the last weeks.. :s (most commits are 3 > weeks or older) > i'm now interested, when the first stable-version would be released. now, > there > is also the wsod back and the sms-applica

[QtExtended] how to import contacts

2009-04-16 Thread nar...@iol.it
Hi all, I'm running qtextended improved as explained by Franky in the post "[QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7"; I need to import my contacts (from vcf formats) in order to use it as a daily phone and to make some test. I'm trying to use the addressbook command as reported in the

Re: Watching videos on neo freerunner (openmoko 2008.12) mplayer-glamo

2009-04-16 Thread c_c
Hi, I've made a really basic mplayer gui and packaged the glamo patched version of mplayer and the config files. The ipk in available here . The software is alpha - so be warned! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Watching-videos-on-neo-freerunner-%28openmoko-2008.12%29-m

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
True, I expected to like the Freerunner as a phone and thought the whole freedom would just be an added bonus. If the phone isn't that good, I could always fix small bugs and help out. However, it turns out that I can't understand the direction the mainstream development is going, and with this sm

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
Saying it is designed for handheld devices still sound to me like focusing on reimplementing something specially for a kind/set of devices. Instead of the much more productive (IMHO) molding technology into a handheld. I still can't get around the feeling that using e is like re-inventing the whee

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 15 April 2009, Thomas Gstädtner wrote: > If you're looking for _the perfect_ LCD for this job, have a look on > the Boe Hydis HVT43WV1. > 4.3" WVGA with probably the best sunlight-readability you can get on a > colored screen. It looks good on paper, but IIRC the Glamo won't drive mor

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Radek Bartoň wrote: > Dne Thursday 16 April 2009 13:39:31 Tobias Diedrich napsal(a): > > I think any hub generator would do, you can get a 'tire frame' > > including hub generator for around 60EUR IIRC. > > Ah great. Thank you. I searched only term "hub dynamo" but "hub generator" > gives me more

Re: [shr-unstable] connman as central connection manager?

2009-04-16 Thread Johny Tenfinger
I want to implement WiFi manager in SHR Settings using connman. Stay tuned ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: distance between the two accelermeters

2009-04-16 Thread François TOURDE
Le 14350ième jour après Epoch, Anas Alzouhbi écrivait: > Hi! > I'm trying to do an application that measure the angular velocity, > using the two accelerometers of openmoko > so anyone know what is the distance between the two accelerometers?? You can check this: http://downloads.openmoko.org/de

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread arne anka
> So what if the company decided to use that money for something you do > not want to be part of, or you think they are throwing away your money > doing stupid things. Well, I think at that moment you should pawn the > product, not endorse it (maybe even publicly denounce it) and then find > anothe

distance between the two accelermeters

2009-04-16 Thread Anas Alzouhbi
Hi! I'm trying to do an application that measure the angular velocity, using the two accelerometers of openmoko so anyone know what is the distance between the two accelerometers?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://l

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread Radek Polak
Radek Bartoň wrote: > BTW: I'm considering to buy and use with Neo Freerunner such [1] hub dynamo > but 165€ seem too much for me. Do you know about similar device but somehow > cheaper? I have bought similar dynamo hub (i think Shimano) in regular cycle shop. It was about 40€ but you can buy

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread Radek Bartoň
Dne Thursday 16 April 2009 13:39:31 Tobias Diedrich napsal(a): > I think any hub generator would do, you can get a 'tire frame' > including hub generator for around 60EUR IIRC. Ah great. Thank you. I searched only term "hub dynamo" but "hub generator" gives me more results. 100€ for dynamo and co

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
I've used debian and it worked, although screen locking was not implemented yet and most of the functionality is placed in an applet which is not at all finger friendly, but ok. I did an update (apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade) and that destroyed my xsession configuration and left me with onl

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
In theory this sounds like a good idea, but I think in practice the scrollbars would have to be accessible in the middle of the screen. Because the OpenMoko screen has an edge around it[1], using the edges of the screen means pushing your finger inside a 90* corner and sliding it. Not something I

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-16 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Sound Freedom wrote: > 2) I did a test. : > I called me with a number which is in my SIM, I saw : "Contact-Sim"/hp > I called me with a number which is in the Tel memory, I saw : > "Contact-Tel"/m > I called me with a number which is not registered & send his numb

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
Dear Martin, I understand that having a choice is a great freedom, but there is another aspect lurking around the corner here: If you buy a product from a company, part of the money you pay is used to further the development of that company. You not only support it at that moment, you support the

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Radek Bartoň wrote: > BTW: I'm considering to buy and use with Neo Freerunner such [1] hub dynamo > but 165€ seem too much for me. Do you know about similar device but somehow > cheaper? Another problem is that I'm not able to develop converter from 6V/3W > to USB. Is there any skilled electroen

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Bram Neijt wrote: > I know this question must have come up once before, but I couldn't find > any real answer online, so I'm posting it here. Why enlightenment? > > I haven't seen enlightenment being used for over 4 years, huum ? I use it daily on desktop/laptop

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread Radek Bartoň
Hello everyone. > 1) How many of you would be interested in the following hardware > mods: > * sunlight readable LCD > * bigger LCD 3,5"+ > * new ruggedized case or rubber shell (including a mean to nicely fix > in on a bike?) > * waterproof (substaintially more costs) I would like to have th

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:59 AM, carmen <_...@whats-your.name> wrote: >> Some ThinkPad X200 Tablets have similar AFFS+ screens of the same >> manufacturer if you want to see it in action. > > my X200 Tablet is unviewable in sun. standard CFFL backlight. i guess the LED > is stronger? > > > i use

[shr-unstable] connman as central connection manager?

2009-04-16 Thread Hermann Lacheiner
Hi all! first, congratulations to the shr team! I think it is in a really useful state. My question is now, I am not that satisfied with the Mofi application to connect to wifi networks. I found that there is connman [1] available in the package repository. Is it planned in the future to use conn

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-16 Thread Sound Freedom
2) I did a test. : I called me with a number which is in my SIM, I saw : "Contact-Sim"/hp I called me with a number which is in the Tel memory, I saw : "Contact-Tel"/m I called me with a number which is not registered & send his number , I saw : "Unknow caller" "/hp" seems to be a contact registere

shr - messages + wsod

2009-04-16 Thread Vinzenz Hersche
hello there, i saw, the shr-team isn't work fast in the last weeks.. :s (most commits are 3 weeks or older) i'm now interested, when the first stable-version would be released. now, there is also the wsod back and the sms-application crashes when it should loading the sms (works in testing but n

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-16 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Roland wrote: > Hi Franky, > > yesterday I installed a completely new system according to your > instructions. Because I didn't get any USB connection (seems to be a > windows > problem) I tried different rootfs images. Currently I'm running MS5.1. > > I have fou

Re: [om2009] - Power Button

2009-04-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, blokkie wrote: > Hi , > > When pressing the power button for 1 sec it powers off very fast . . > This is _nice_ . I like it a lot. But there is no way to lock it or put > it in sleep via this button > What happens is indeed suspend, not a shut-down. > In SHR there is a exelent way to

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread carmen
> Some ThinkPad X200 Tablets have similar AFFS+ screens of the same > manufacturer if you want to see it in action. my X200 Tablet is unviewable in sun. standard CFFL backlight. i guess the LED is stronger? i use my Astak / Jinke / Hanlin ebook reader in the same sunlight, but refresh is prett

RE: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-16 Thread Roland
Hi Franky, yesterday I installed a completely new system according to your instructions. Because I didn't get any USB connection (seems to be a windows problem) I tried different rootfs images. Currently I'm running MS5.1. I have found two problems so far: 1. The date can not be set through the

Re: [SHR-unstable] call weighting breaks current call

2009-04-16 Thread Russell Hay
Apologies for the poor spelling in the fist post. I suspect the issue is identical to the one already raised in Trac; http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/339 Russ 2009/4/16 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > On Thursday 16 April 2009 01:04:43 Russell Hay wrote: > > I've been using SHR-unstable quite happ

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread Miguel Ángel Calderón
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM, vale wrote: > > perhaps it can be a case where the neo fits in, and lcd is connected via > usb. also we can put in a better gps antenna connected to the external > gps-antenna-connector. > > This solution seem easy to implement, without having to do hardware hacki

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-16 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
You have to reboot twice to get ssh to work: once after the install, that will configure all modules and stuff, the second boot the system will be able to find the usb0 device and launch ssh on it. Franky On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Sound Freedom wrote: > I'm using the rootfs : 2009-02-23

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

2009-04-16 Thread Sound Freedom
I'm using the rootfs : 2009-02-23 fso-console-image-om-gta02.jffs2 And the associated kernel : 2009-02-23 uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin Maybe it's that. But I tried official April 4th image & kernel from your site with no success ( no ssh ). I'll

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/4/16 vale : > perhaps it can be a case where the neo fits in, and lcd is connected via usb. > also we can put in a better gps antenna connected to the external > gps-antenna-connector. > the usb is v 1.1, which iirc will only manage 12Mbit/s, so either we need to downgrade to a hopelessly l

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread kimaidou
Hi list And what about just sort of a black ribbon put around the freerunner, like a hat or a crown 2 or 3 centimeters high ? We leave the bottom of the freerunner (the ring part) free, so that the hand can easily access the touchscreen. As on said, your head provide shade (protect from the glade

Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread vale
i would be interested too. an outdoor case and lcd for the neo would be great. perhaps it can be a case where the neo fits in, and lcd is connected via usb. also we can put in a better gps antenna connected to the external gps-antenna-connector. we can use it as navigation system not only on