how to connect a sensor to my openmoko

2009-04-20 Thread Anas Alzouhbi
Hello!
I like to connect a sensor (like gyroscope) to my smarthphone, how can
I do this, or any one could give me a helpful document in this domain
thank you

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Re: test QtEI

2009-04-20 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Yes it does, I tried eg. the code for call divert status and it works just
fine.
All the ones mentioned at
http://www.geckobeach.com/cellular/secrets/gsmcodes.php should work just
fine (well, maybe not all functionality is implemented, but it should work).
Maybe try the 2.6.28 version I provide (it is of course based upon code from
Karadog).

Franky

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Tuan TRINH openmoko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,As far as I know, qt-extended currently does not support  * ,  # 
 chars in dial string.


 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm using:
 Qt-Extended: 4.4.3 build by liho...@dashi-x02 on Apr 3 2009
 Kernel: 2.6.24 compiled by bu...@barbie

 Thankyou for your fast answer :)

 On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  What OS are you using? These codes work fine for me (OM2009  Vodafone
 UK SIM).
 
  Cheers, Joseph
 
 
 
  2009/4/18 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com:
  My Phone operator (Wind Italy) have some numbers (ie: *123#,*123*3#)
  to check various things (credit, sms left and so on).
  After you make a call, should appear a sort of advice with the data
  you requested. This advice appears afetr I make a call (in this case,
  Wind update me about my credit), but does not appear if I call the
  specific numbers.
  How can I debug it to make a better report?
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Re: [QtExtended] made it better !

2009-04-20 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Sound Freedom
sound.of.free...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 I'm thinking about how to contribute for this project.
 Some stuff which interesting me are a theming project (changing some or all
 aspects of QTEi) and Internationalization (for French). I'm just reading the
 documentation of QtExtended for the moment. But i need some answers.

 - Must have I to build QTEi every time I want to test anything or there is
 an emulation platform ?
 - How be staying with your latest changes without loosing mine ?
 - How can I send to you my work ?

 I don't know how works git and I don't want to do some bullshits.

 thanks


Hi,

normally the git from Karadog or Radek  are the places to submit your
code/patches.
Mainly http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved is used (although lots
of fixes have been made to make it work for 2.6.28 kernels and other
bugfixes ...)
I'll try to get Radek to make me a split for his 2.6.28 based version on
github, and then I'll put all the code online.

Franky
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Re: how to connect a sensor to my openmoko

2009-04-20 Thread Helge Hafting
Anas Alzouhbi wrote:
 Hello!
 I like to connect a sensor (like gyroscope) to my smarthphone, how can
 I do this, or any one could give me a helpful document in this domain
 thank you

The USB port on the freerunner can be used to connect usb devices. (See 
the wiki for how this is done.)

So, if you can get a device with a USB interface, then it is easy.
If you can't get that, get a device with a serial interface, and get a 
serial-to-usb converter.

And of course connecting via bluetooth or wifi is easy enough, but I 
have not heard of any gyroscopes connectiong via such interfaces. :-/

Helge Hafting

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Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting

2009-04-20 Thread Bram Mertens
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
r...@sygehus.dk wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:07:55AM +0200, Bram Mertens wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm about ready to flash a new distro onto the FreRuuner main memory
 but since it'll be the first time I wanted to try backing up the
 existing distro first.  So I followed the steps on
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup .

   Which version of U-Boot are you using? DFU Upload was broken at least
 until 2008-10-17.

 2008-10-07      Harald Welte    u-boot: Fix DFU upload in u-boot
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=u-boot.git;a=commitdiff;h=414367bf5b65942947dd5d569c27d2a8e8e5e562

I wrote it down because I intended to include it...

I'll check when I get back home but this date looks familiar.

As for reducing the backup: I'm trying to create a backup of the
initial image that came with the device so I'd like to avoid throwing
stuff away.

So the recommendation would be to update the U-Boot with:
1) backup exsitng U-Boot (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup):
Boot NOR boto menu
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -U good-u-boot.bin
sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U good-u-boot_env.bin

2) flash U-Boot
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Flashing_the_boot_loader_to_the_NAND):
dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D uboot.bin

Reboot the device to use the new U-Boot but the following reminder is
not very clear to me:
Reminder: You should have boot from NOR first, in order to flash the
boot-loader in NAND. After flashing succesfully, make sure you reboot
from NAND's newly flashed boot loader, to benefit from the updates. 

Does this mean I simply have to reboot the FreeRunner to the NOR boot
menu again, or do I have to boot to the NAND boot menu as
well/instead?

And from which boot menu should I continue backing up the device?
From the NOR menu?

Which u-boot.bin should I use?  And where should I get it?

Thanks in advance.

Bram

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Re: how to connect a sensor to my openmoko

2009-04-20 Thread Kiam Peng Wee
Hi, you can pull out the SPI/UART/I2C signals from the debug board if
your sensor IC is SPI or UART or I2C interface.

another alternative is to find the testpoints according to this pic
and solder out the connections from the test points to your IC.
the test points are labeled accordingly and they surround the FPC connector.
https://wiki.openmoko.org/images/a/a4/Gta02a5_pcba_ps.JPG

KP

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
 Anas Alzouhbi wrote:
 Hello!
 I like to connect a sensor (like gyroscope) to my smarthphone, how can
 I do this, or any one could give me a helpful document in this domain
 thank you

 The USB port on the freerunner can be used to connect usb devices. (See
 the wiki for how this is done.)

 So, if you can get a device with a USB interface, then it is easy.
 If you can't get that, get a device with a serial interface, and get a
 serial-to-usb converter.

 And of course connecting via bluetooth or wifi is easy enough, but I
 have not heard of any gyroscopes connectiong via such interfaces. :-/

 Helge Hafting

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Re: how to connect a sensor to my openmoko

2009-04-20 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 20 April 2009, Anas Alzouhbi wrote:
 Hello!
 I like to connect a sensor (like gyroscope) to my smarthphone, how can
 I do this, or any one could give me a helpful document in this domain
 thank you

USB is probably easiest both electrically and for interface code. SPI and i2c 
are available on test points near the debug connector. Finally there may be 
some unused GPIO pins accessible which someone has been looking into for a 
possibel camera interface recently.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware#Debug_Board
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/I2C

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Re: [QtExtended] made it better !

2009-04-20 Thread Radek Polak
Franky Van Liedekerke napsal(a):

 Hi,
 
 I'll try to get Radek to make me a split for his 2.6.28 based version on 
 github, and then I'll put all the code online.
 
 Franky

Hi Franky and others,
just create account on github and send me mail with your username.
I will be more than happy to create a branch for you.

Radek


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Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread ivvmm
Al Johnson wrote:
 These are great news. But it is very sorry that now no one claimed that
 this functionality will be provided. To speak more frankly many people
 would be glad to hear from the developer of TangoGPS, Marcus Bauer, that
 he is going to implement this feature.
 
 Why should the apps have to support it? The location service need only supply 
 data according to the gypsy protocol to have most existing apps 'just work.' 
 Apps using gpsd will be taken care of by fso-gpsd. It really shouldn't matter 
 to the apps that the data came from something other than a gps unit, be it 
 cell tower, wifi, bluetooth or the magic location pixie. 
 

That's even better than I thought. So we should expect activity from the
FSO team. Were there any steps towards this(or will be there any in the
nearest future)?

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Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread Stefan Schmidt
[Resend as the ml seems not to like my other email address, but do not inform me
about this either...]

Hello.

On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 15:58, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
 
 So here is the call to all the developers around to create a location
 service based on the opencellid data. for me that database should be the
 main db and everyone can provide his data to this db.

As long as I don't get an answer from Thomas about his willingness to add
informations about cell quality and other data then cell IDs, like wifi APs,
into the opencellid db FSO will not go into the opencellid direction at all.

Telling people all the time that it is the biggest db and don't answer requests
about quality and other data buys you nothing guys.

We will think more about this until and at FSOSHRUDCON, but we will not go with
opencellid just because they have the most data yet.

regards
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Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian

2009-04-20 Thread Esben Stien
Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com writes:

 But we may superseed on this actually until having a well working
 asterisk on freerunner

Rather definitely use freeswitch;). 

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Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-20 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:21:39 +0400 Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org
said:

  i considered it but as i couldnt do finger scrolling (middle of the
  window - swipe to scroll) i chose not to try and push the work back onto
  the app to adapt to a limited window side.
 
 Theoretically it should be possible to implement finger scrolling from the 
 middle of the window starting with some recognizable gesture.
 
 Althouht don't know how this could be done at technical level.

the problem is... it can't be done... unless:

1. you poll often (there goes battery life as you'll need to poll 10+ times a
second). you need to poll and query the mouse position/state. this is not an
acceptable solution for an embedded device if you care about battery life.
2. xevie - this is an event redirector extension. ALL mouse events can be put
through it. this will add an extra 2 context switches for an vent to get to the
app and go through such a redirector (eg the wm). xevie also gets little love
from the x developers.

other than this, it's not possible as ONLY the client that owns the window
a listens for events can get events on it. they are only reported to this
client (thanks to button grabs being implicit it). also you would need to
walk the entire window tree down from the client window AND monitor all changes
AND select for mouse events for all these windows AND still not get hem when you
press the screen as mouse vents will be reported to the grabbing owner - ie the
one that asked for mouse press and release events. so basically even afetr al
the pain of doing things you shouldnt (playing wit the internal window tree of
an app's window) it still wont work... so .. back to the above 2 methods - both
of which really are sub-optimal

  in reality - apps should probably handle this themselves. i know e's
  config dialogs mostly dont fit - but that is a todo item
 
 There is also everything else. Lots of X apps are not designed for small 
 screen, and fixing all those looks like much more work than making it 
 possible to access larger-than-screen windows. Btw, these two ways don't 
 exclude each other :)

no they dont, but see above. its simply not sane to do it. i havent even
covered the conflicts of internal scrollbars, sliders etc. inside the apps -
now u cant drag those anymore if the window is too bit as it will scroll the
window, not move the scrollbar inside the window or the slider.

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Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-20 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
 the problem is... it can't be done... unless:

 skip

Hmm...

I've heared about more or less generic gestures implementations. A quick 
google search gives this: 
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gestikk-mouse-gesture-recognition-in-ubuntu.html

How do they do it?

Nikita

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Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread vale

why do we need so many databases doing the same?

cellhunter has far more cells than openbmap, so why not just bundle the
effort and only have one database for getting cells with openmoko?

greetings

vale

i think cellhunter has far more

Stefan Schmidt wrote:
 
 [Resend as the ml seems not to like my other email address, but do not
 inform me
 about this either...]
 
 Hello.
 
 On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 15:58, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
 
 So here is the call to all the developers around to create a location
 service based on the opencellid data. for me that database should be the
 main db and everyone can provide his data to this db.
 
 As long as I don't get an answer from Thomas about his willingness to add
 informations about cell quality and other data then cell IDs, like wifi
 APs,
 into the opencellid db FSO will not go into the opencellid direction at
 all.
 
 Telling people all the time that it is the biggest db and don't answer
 requests
 about quality and other data buys you nothing guys.
 
 We will think more about this until and at FSOSHRUDCON, but we will not go
 with
 opencellid just because they have the most data yet.
 
 regards
 Stefan Schmidt
 
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Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian

2009-04-20 Thread Nicola Mfb
2009/4/20 Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name:
 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com writes:

 But we may superseed on this actually until having a well working
 asterisk on freerunner

 Rather definitely use freeswitch;).

Hi Esben,
Actually only a patch for asterisk let me use the voip line provided
by my adsl carrier (Alice/Telecom Italia) as it uses a modified sip
protocol. For that reason I did not take a look at freeswitch. However
I'm curious to know if someone used freeswitch on freerunner, is there
some OE recipe to build it?

Nicola

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Re: test QtEI

2009-04-20 Thread Fabio Locati
@Franky: the numbers that Wind give me are not in the page you
linked... Is this meaning that is normal that they do not work?

btw: these calls are normal calls or are data calls or something else?

Thank you for your time and your attention :)

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke
liede...@telenet.be wrote:
 Yes it does, I tried eg. the code for call divert status and it works just
 fine.
 All the ones mentioned at
 http://www.geckobeach.com/cellular/secrets/gsmcodes.php should work just
 fine (well, maybe not all functionality is implemented, but it should work).
 Maybe try the 2.6.28 version I provide (it is of course based upon code from
 Karadog).

 Franky

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Tuan TRINH openmoko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 As far as I know, qt-extended currently does not support  * ,  # 
 chars in dial string.


 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm using:
 Qt-Extended: 4.4.3 build by liho...@dashi-x02 on Apr 3 2009
 Kernel: 2.6.24 compiled by bu...@barbie

 Thankyou for your fast answer :)

 On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  What OS are you using? These codes work fine for me (OM2009  Vodafone
  UK SIM).
 
  Cheers, Joseph
 
 
 
  2009/4/18 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com:
  My Phone operator (Wind Italy) have some numbers (ie: *123#,*123*3#)
  to check various things (credit, sms left and so on).
  After you make a call, should appear a sort of advice with the data
  you requested. This advice appears afetr I make a call (in this case,
  Wind update me about my credit), but does not appear if I call the
  specific numbers.
  How can I debug it to make a better report?
  --
  Fabio A Locati
 
  Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1)
  Phone: +39-328-3799681
  MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com
 
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Re: test QtEI

2009-04-20 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
I don't know, I don't have a SIM card with which to check the status (I have
a subscription, not a credit-based card).
But it was to show that the dialer does support the * and # characters.
And I believe these are normal calls, they just get interpreted by the phone
company that then returns a special crafted message with the requested info.

Franky

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Franky: the numbers that Wind give me are not in the page you
 linked... Is this meaning that is normal that they do not work?

 btw: these calls are normal calls or are data calls or something else?

 Thank you for your time and your attention :)

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke
 liede...@telenet.be wrote:
  Yes it does, I tried eg. the code for call divert status and it works
 just
  fine.
  All the ones mentioned at
  http://www.geckobeach.com/cellular/secrets/gsmcodes.php should work just
  fine (well, maybe not all functionality is implemented, but it should
 work).
  Maybe try the 2.6.28 version I provide (it is of course based upon code
 from
  Karadog).
 
  Franky
 
  On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Tuan TRINH openmoko...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
  As far as I know, qt-extended currently does not support  * ,  # 
  chars in dial string.
 
 
  On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I'm using:
  Qt-Extended: 4.4.3 build by liho...@dashi-x02 on Apr 3 2009
  Kernel: 2.6.24 compiled by bu...@barbie
 
  Thankyou for your fast answer :)
 
  On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   What OS are you using? These codes work fine for me (OM2009 
 Vodafone
   UK SIM).
  
   Cheers, Joseph
  
  
  
   2009/4/18 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com:
   My Phone operator (Wind Italy) have some numbers (ie: *123#,*123*3#)
   to check various things (credit, sms left and so on).
   After you make a call, should appear a sort of advice with the data
   you requested. This advice appears afetr I make a call (in this
 case,
   Wind update me about my credit), but does not appear if I call the
   specific numbers.
   How can I debug it to make a better report?
   --
   Fabio A Locati
  
   Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1)
   Phone: +39-328-3799681
   MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com
  
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PyFlash 0.4 is out

2009-04-20 Thread Pander
Hi all,

PyFlash 0.4 is out, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pyflash

Major change is that it has a default flashcard set with over 6000 kanji.

Be carefull with rotating, this is still experimental and uses xrandr
with the subsequent disadvantages of the current implementation (high
pitch sound from screen and possible lock of the window manager).

The code is hosted at sourceforge in case you would like to contribute
to this application.

Regards,

Pander

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Re: [android] koolu beta 6?

2009-04-20 Thread Alok G. Singh
Pieter Colpaert wrote:

 Is there somewhere a working/not working list available?

There is a somewhat old list at
http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/test-plans-and-results

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[SHR] keeping quality high

2009-04-20 Thread Pander
Hi all,

Like Android's:
  http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/test-plans-and-results
would it be usefull that SHR transforms this:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stable_Hybrid_Release#Feature_overview
into an online service with its own mechanism to guarantee quality

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tangoGPS icon on illume desktop missing

2009-04-20 Thread Daniel.Li
Dear List,

I have just installed
openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090417-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
and found tangoGPS icon missing. 

How can I fix the problem? Thanks.
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Re: test QtEI

2009-04-20 Thread Radek Polak
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 I don't know, I don't have a SIM card with which to check the status (I 
 have a subscription, not a credit-based card).
 But it was to show that the dialer does support the * and # characters.
 And I believe these are normal calls, they just get interpreted by the 
 phone company that then returns a special crafted message with the 
 requested info.

Hi,
i am able to show my credit by calling *22#

My image is this one [1], but i dont think that the image is different
from any other images. It's probably operator specific or some other
factor is involved. It is possible to enable modem commands logging and
this could be used to debug the problem.

Radek

[1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qtmoko/

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Re: test QtEI

2009-04-20 Thread Fabio Locati
@Franky: is there a way to see what phone is doing? if yes, I can do
it and send here the results... who does this sounds?

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 I don't know, I don't have a SIM card with which to check the status (I
 have a subscription, not a credit-based card).
 But it was to show that the dialer does support the * and # characters.
 And I believe these are normal calls, they just get interpreted by the
 phone company that then returns a special crafted message with the
 requested info.

 Hi,
 i am able to show my credit by calling *22#

 My image is this one [1], but i dont think that the image is different
 from any other images. It's probably operator specific or some other
 factor is involved. It is possible to enable modem commands logging and
 this could be used to debug the problem.

 Radek

 [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qtmoko/

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Re: tangoGPS icon on illume desktop missing

2009-04-20 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Montag 20 April 2009 16:57:57 schrieb Daniel.Li:
 Dear List,

 I have just installed
 openmoko-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090417-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
 and found tangoGPS icon missing.

 How can I fix the problem? Thanks.
edit /usr/share/applications/tangogps.desktop and change the category 
Application to Applications.

Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann


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Re: SHR Testing upgrade question

2009-04-20 Thread David Ford
the upgrade changed eth0 from wireless to wired.  just go edit your
/etc/network/interfaces, delete the extraneous things like wlan0 if
you're not using it, and make eth0 your wireless again.  being that the
wifi mgt tools don't work for me, all my network config is managed via
this file.

-d

Robin Paulson wrote:
 2009/4/20 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com:
   
 In SHR Testing is it wise to do a opkg upgrade command, would it be
 any different than what comes in the image that gets flashed on the
 phone, basically if I were to flash a older release of SHR testing
 onto my phone would opkg update  opkg upgrade take me up to the
 version that was released on April 16th or would it break my phone?
 

 until my networking got fubar'd on the last upgrade, on friday, opkg
 upgrade was working fine for me. i'm not sure whether the problem is
 something i did, or a problem with shr
   
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Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting

2009-04-20 Thread Bram Mertens
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
 r...@sygehus.dk wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:07:55AM +0200, Bram Mertens wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm about ready to flash a new distro onto the FreRuuner main memory
 but since it'll be the first time I wanted to try backing up the
 existing distro first.  So I followed the steps on
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup .

   Which version of U-Boot are you using? DFU Upload was broken at least
 until 2008-10-17.

 2008-10-07      Harald Welte    u-boot: Fix DFU upload in u-boot
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=u-boot.git;a=commitdiff;h=414367bf5b65942947dd5d569c27d2a8e8e5e562

 I wrote it down because I intended to include it...

 I'll check when I get back home but this date looks familiar.

 As for reducing the backup: I'm trying to create a backup of the
 initial image that came with the device so I'd like to avoid throwing
 stuff away.

 So the recommendation would be to update the U-Boot with:
 1) backup exsitng U-Boot (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup):
 Boot NOR boto menu
 sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -U good-u-boot.bin
 sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U good-u-boot_env.bin

 2) flash U-Boot
 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Flashing_the_boot_loader_to_the_NAND):
 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D uboot.bin

 Reboot the device to use the new U-Boot but the following reminder is
 not very clear to me:
 Reminder: You should have boot from NOR first, in order to flash the
 boot-loader in NAND. After flashing succesfully, make sure you reboot
 from NAND's newly flashed boot loader, to benefit from the updates. 

 Does this mean I simply have to reboot the FreeRunner to the NOR boot
 menu again, or do I have to boot to the NAND boot menu as
 well/instead?

 And from which boot menu should I continue backing up the device?
 From the NOR menu?

 Which u-boot.bin should I use?  And where should I get it?

 Thanks in advance.

 Bram


NOR boot menu shows: U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (May  9 2008 - 10:28:48)
NAND boot menu shows: U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (Oct  7 2008 - 21:03:06)

so I guess I need to update

According to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot the latest
bootloader binary builds can be found under
http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/ .  Are these
considered stable despite being in the unstable branch?

Which version is recommended at this stage?  The latest daily build
(http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090420/)
does not contain a uboot image.  The one from 20090419 does.

Regards

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Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting

2009-04-20 Thread Bram Mertens
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
 r...@sygehus.dk wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:07:55AM +0200, Bram Mertens wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm about ready to flash a new distro onto the FreRuuner main memory
 but since it'll be the first time I wanted to try backing up the
 existing distro first.  So I followed the steps on
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup .

   Which version of U-Boot are you using? DFU Upload was broken at least
 until 2008-10-17.

 2008-10-07      Harald Welte    u-boot: Fix DFU upload in u-boot
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=u-boot.git;a=commitdiff;h=414367bf5b65942947dd5d569c27d2a8e8e5e562

 I wrote it down because I intended to include it...

 I'll check when I get back home but this date looks familiar.

 As for reducing the backup: I'm trying to create a backup of the
 initial image that came with the device so I'd like to avoid throwing
 stuff away.

 So the recommendation would be to update the U-Boot with:
 1) backup exsitng U-Boot (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup):
 Boot NOR boto menu
 sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -U good-u-boot.bin
 sudo ./dfu-util -a u-boot_env -R -U good-u-boot_env.bin

 2) flash U-Boot
 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Flashing_the_boot_loader_to_the_NAND):
 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D uboot.bin

 Reboot the device to use the new U-Boot but the following reminder is
 not very clear to me:
 Reminder: You should have boot from NOR first, in order to flash the
 boot-loader in NAND. After flashing succesfully, make sure you reboot
 from NAND's newly flashed boot loader, to benefit from the updates. 

 Does this mean I simply have to reboot the FreeRunner to the NOR boot
 menu again, or do I have to boot to the NAND boot menu as
 well/instead?

 And from which boot menu should I continue backing up the device?
 From the NOR menu?

 Which u-boot.bin should I use?  And where should I get it?

 Thanks in advance.

 Bram


 NOR boot menu shows: U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (May  9 2008 - 10:28:48)
 NAND boot menu shows: U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (Oct  7 2008 - 21:03:06)

 so I guess I need to update

 According to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot the latest
 bootloader binary builds can be found under
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/ .  Are these
 considered stable despite being in the unstable branch?

 Which version is recommended at this stage?  The latest daily build
 (http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090420/)
 does not contain a uboot image.  The one from 20090419 does.

 Regards

 Bram Mertens


I tried using the
u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitrb20cc520a22715fe7ff069b36b7dfdbb925a8e5a-r1.bin
from http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/daily/om-gta02/20090419/:

$ sudo dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D uboot.bin
dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x:0x...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=14, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=1, name=u-boot
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14
dfuERROR, clearing status
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
bytes_per_hash=4338
Starting download:
[##] finished!
state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present
Done!
Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode

While device was connected, I selected reboot option from the U-Boot menu.

Device powers down briefly, then displays the openmoko logo.  It sat
there doing nothing for a while so I unplugged the device. However the
openmoko logo remains on screen...

Is it supposed to take several minutes, it's been more than 15minutes already...

Should I reset the device?  Boot immediately to the NOR or NAND menu?

Thanks in advance.

Bram

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Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting

2009-04-20 Thread Cameron Frazier
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
snip

Have you tried using NeoTool [1]?  It's always worked quite well for
me, and the backing up process avoids dfu-util.

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool

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Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting

2009-04-20 Thread Bram Mertens
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Cameron Frazier
frazier.came...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 snip

 Have you tried using NeoTool [1]?  It's always worked quite well for
 me, and the backing up process avoids dfu-util.

 [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool

I have tried to use it before when I initially went to pick up the
device but never succeeded, probably because we were using the wrong
files.

And the instructions seemed clear enough to use the command line utility.

The current problems/questions would have arisen with NeoTool anyway,
looks like I made a mistake when rebooting the device.

So when you have flashed the U-Boot with NeoTool, how do you proceed?
Unplug it first, power down, then boot again or use the boot menu to
reboot?  And did you boot the device normally or immediately into NOR
or NAND?

The display still shows the openmoko logo, guess I'll have to hard
reset it though I hope that won't break anything...

Regards

Bram

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Re: tangoGPS icon on illume desktop missing

2009-04-20 Thread Hermann Lacheiner
Hi!

2009/4/20 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de:
 edit /usr/share/applications/tangogps.desktop and change the category
 Application to Applications.

Thanks for the information. I have just filed a bug
http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/407, so it will be fixed
permanently hopefully ;)

Cheers, Hermann

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[SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!

2009-04-20 Thread bburdette
I don't usually see an announcement on the community list when a new 
SHR-testing is available, so here's my own.  The SHR team deserves some 
kudos for a great job.

Just reflashed my OM with the new shr-testing (4-16 version)

1 - GUI is much more responsive!
2 - Settings are restructured, better I think. See #1.  A lot of work
has gone into the settings changes it seems.  I like the profile editor.
3 - new battery power indicator is cool.
4 - wifi works again for me with mofi (at home, with WPA).

Its a worthy upgrade.  SHR-testing is very usable now, just a few things
would really push it over the edge for me:

- mofi can't connect me to any open wifi networks.
- no volume control for earpiece volume.
- no datetime for SMS messages.

 From what I understand echo cancellation is in this version of SHR, so
increasing earpiece volume should be echo free (using config files), I
haven't tried that yet though.

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Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello.

On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 05:05, vale wrote:
 
 why do we need so many databases doing the same?
 
 cellhunter has far more cells than openbmap, so why not just bundle the
 effort and only have one database for getting cells with openmoko?

Seems you did not read my mail. To get the background you should also have a
look at the archive to find the previous desicussions about this.

I ask for quality and willingness to expand the server side for better results.

regards
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Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting

2009-04-20 Thread Cameron Frazier
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Cameron Frazier
 frazier.came...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 snip

 Have you tried using NeoTool [1]?  It's always worked quite well for
 me, and the backing up process avoids dfu-util.

 [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool

 I have tried to use it before when I initially went to pick up the
 device but never succeeded, probably because we were using the wrong
 files.

 And the instructions seemed clear enough to use the command line utility.

 The current problems/questions would have arisen with NeoTool anyway,
 looks like I made a mistake when rebooting the device.

 So when you have flashed the U-Boot with NeoTool, how do you proceed?
 Unplug it first, power down, then boot again or use the boot menu to
 reboot?  And did you boot the device normally or immediately into NOR
 or NAND?

 The display still shows the openmoko logo, guess I'll have to hard
 reset it though I hope that won't break anything...


I've always just:

- flashed
- powered down, which the FR seems to do on it's own once u-boot times out
- unplug the usb, as I've found that leaving it in will cause hangs
similar to what your seeing
  (oddly I don't have this issue with the AC adapter)
- turn on pre normal procedure (power button for 8-10 sec)

I use NeoTool most times since I like the backup method (having had
numerous problems with dfu-util backups) and it helps to ensure I'm
not throwing improper commands when I flash.  I have little faith in
the user on my end.

Hope that helps.

Cameron

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Re: [SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!

2009-04-20 Thread Vasco Nevoa
I second that emotion! :) It is by far the best distro ever tested on my 
Neo.
Not only that, but they also got rid of a few nasty bugs: the GPRS link 
(now included out-of-the-box) no longer stalls, the USB networking with 
Windows boxes is restored, and the messages and dialer apps no 
longer crash randomly. And Raster's keyboard finally works the way it 
should (fast and clean). Very nice indeed.
Kudos to everyone, not just the SHR team for a great integration effort, 
but also to the kernel and application teams.

bburde...@comcast.net escreveu:
 I don't usually see an announcement on the community list when a new 
 SHR-testing is available, so here's my own.  The SHR team deserves some 
 kudos for a great job.

 Just reflashed my OM with the new shr-testing (4-16 version)

 1 - GUI is much more responsive!
 2 - Settings are restructured, better I think. See #1.  A lot of work
 has gone into the settings changes it seems.  I like the profile editor.
 3 - new battery power indicator is cool.
 4 - wifi works again for me with mofi (at home, with WPA).

 Its a worthy upgrade.  SHR-testing is very usable now, just a few things
 would really push it over the edge for me:

 - mofi can't connect me to any open wifi networks.
 - no volume control for earpiece volume.
 - no datetime for SMS messages.

  From what I understand echo cancellation is in this version of SHR, so
 increasing earpiece volume should be echo free (using config files), I
 haven't tried that yet though.

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Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting

2009-04-20 Thread Bram Mertens
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Cameron Frazier
frazier.came...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Cameron Frazier
 frazier.came...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 snip

 Have you tried using NeoTool [1]?  It's always worked quite well for
 me, and the backing up process avoids dfu-util.

 [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool

 I have tried to use it before when I initially went to pick up the
 device but never succeeded, probably because we were using the wrong
 files.

 And the instructions seemed clear enough to use the command line utility.

 The current problems/questions would have arisen with NeoTool anyway,
 looks like I made a mistake when rebooting the device.

 So when you have flashed the U-Boot with NeoTool, how do you proceed?
 Unplug it first, power down, then boot again or use the boot menu to
 reboot?  And did you boot the device normally or immediately into NOR
 or NAND?

 The display still shows the openmoko logo, guess I'll have to hard
 reset it though I hope that won't break anything...


 I've always just:

 - flashed
 - powered down, which the FR seems to do on it's own once u-boot times out
 - unplug the usb, as I've found that leaving it in will cause hangs
 similar to what your seeing
  (oddly I don't have this issue with the AC adapter)
 - turn on pre normal procedure (power button for 8-10 sec)

 I use NeoTool most times since I like the backup method (having had
 numerous problems with dfu-util backups) and it helps to ensure I'm
 not throwing improper commands when I flash.  I have little faith in
 the user on my end.

Thanks,

I pulled the battery and booted into NOR, it still shows:
U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (May 09 2008 - 10:28:48)
select reboot from menu - FDOM boots.
Shut down device to NAND boot menu.
NAND boot menu shows: pr 19 2009 -
19:10:05)520a22715fe7ff069b36b7dfdbb925a8e5a (A

So it looks like NAND U-Boot was updated but NOR hasn't.  However
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup#Backing-up_flash_images
specifically states that you need to be in NOR U-Boot before
flashing/backing up.

After reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_NOR I get the
impression that flashing NOR is not really recommended compared to
flashing NAND.

I'll try with NeoTool since even with the new U-Boot a backup fails
after 38minutes (while booted to NAND).

Regards

Bram

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Re: [SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!

2009-04-20 Thread Adam Jimerson
I'll third that, love the new UI and the settings, the phone is extremely
responsive now that Enlightenment is not the resource hog it use to be.  The
biggest downside I have found is that no time and date in SMS, and the
accelerometer doesn't seem to work my test was with
http://www.opkg.org/package_35.html.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Vasco Nevoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt wrote:

 I second that emotion! :) It is by far the best distro ever tested on my
 Neo.
 Not only that, but they also got rid of a few nasty bugs: the GPRS link
 (now included out-of-the-box) no longer stalls, the USB networking with
 Windows boxes is restored, and the messages and dialer apps no
 longer crash randomly. And Raster's keyboard finally works the way it
 should (fast and clean). Very nice indeed.
 Kudos to everyone, not just the SHR team for a great integration effort,
 but also to the kernel and application teams.

 bburde...@comcast.net escreveu:
  I don't usually see an announcement on the community list when a new
  SHR-testing is available, so here's my own.  The SHR team deserves some
  kudos for a great job.
 
  Just reflashed my OM with the new shr-testing (4-16 version)
 
  1 - GUI is much more responsive!
  2 - Settings are restructured, better I think. See #1.  A lot of work
  has gone into the settings changes it seems.  I like the profile editor.
  3 - new battery power indicator is cool.
  4 - wifi works again for me with mofi (at home, with WPA).
 
  Its a worthy upgrade.  SHR-testing is very usable now, just a few things
  would really push it over the edge for me:
 
  - mofi can't connect me to any open wifi networks.
  - no volume control for earpiece volume.
  - no datetime for SMS messages.
 
   From what I understand echo cancellation is in this version of SHR, so
  increasing earpiece volume should be echo free (using config files), I
  haven't tried that yet though.
 
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Koolu announces Beta 6 of Android on the Freerunner...

2009-04-20 Thread Brian Code

Greetings everyone!

Koolu is proud to announce Koolu-1.0 Beta 6 for the Android on  
Freerunner project. Release files, installation notes, and a change  
log can be found at: http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files .


In addition, one can check out the exact code used for Beta 6 to build  
their own tree, or to provide patches and fixes.


repo init -u git://git.koolu.org/freerunner/platform/manifest.git -b  
koolu-beta-6

repo sync

Please see http://git.koolu.org/ for more details.

We have also created a suite of tools to make it easier to collect and  
submit patches to Koolu. You can view the git project at: http://git.koolu.org/?p=tools/koolu.git;a=summary


Those who are interested in asking live questions, we can be found on  
#freerunner-android on irc.freenode.net.


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Re: backing up rootfs fails - after 40m FreeRunner continues booting

2009-04-20 Thread Cameron Frazier
 I pulled the battery and booted into NOR, it still shows:
 U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (May 09 2008 - 10:28:48)
 select reboot from menu - FDOM boots.
 Shut down device to NAND boot menu.
 NAND boot menu shows: pr 19 2009 -
 19:10:05)520a22715fe7ff069b36b7dfdbb925a8e5a (A

 So it looks like NAND U-Boot was updated but NOR hasn't.  However
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Backup#Backing-up_flash_images
 specifically states that you need to be in NOR U-Boot before
 flashing/backing up.

 After reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_NOR I get the
 impression that flashing NOR is not really recommended compared to
 flashing NAND.

The NOR is not flashable on the Freerunner (sans debug board, or
special versions).  It's your failsafe should you break your NAND
bootloader in some spectacular fashion.

This is why you go into NOR for flashing, since it is invariable over
all the changes you can do to the system.

I still recommend using NeoTool for at least backing up, as it uses an
ssh connection and mkfs-jffs2 to create an image of the rootfs, rather
then fiddling with dfu-util.

Hope that helps in some fashion.

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Re: [SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!

2009-04-20 Thread Richy
Also there seems to be improved battery life!
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Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread vale

yes i read your email,

but i think size matters ;) i prefer to get a less acurate position but 
get a position to beeing somewhere where we have no cells at all.

if we have a big database its not that difficult to implement a position 
query by cell ...

with cellhunter i think we have the main roads and cities covered in 
germany :)

best regards

vale

Stefan Schmidt (via Nabble) schrieb:
 Hello.
 
 On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 05:05, vale wrote:
  
   why do we need so many databases doing the same?
  
   cellhunter has far more cells than openbmap, so why not just bundle the
   effort and only have one database for getting cells with openmoko?
 
 Seems you did not read my mail. To get the background you should also 
 have a
 look at the archive to find the previous desicussions about this.
 
 I ask for quality and willingness to expand the server side for better 
 results.
 
 regards
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[QtExtended] call for help

2009-04-20 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Ok, it seems my knowledge of qtextended has reached its limits. I'm
giving up on trying to fix issues that are definitely qtopia-core 
related. So, if anybody has the skills to help fix issue
http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/26 feel free to
jump in. I've spend too much time on these kind of things and since
even Trolltech didn't bother fixing it, why should I? I'm just one guy
that happened to put some stuff together, not a company with a bunch of
developers behind it.
The same goes for bluetooth.
So: every qtopia/qt/qtextended developer in this list, please jump in.
If no response is received, I might as well consider that
qtextended-on-freerunner is not wanted/needed anymore ... 

Franky

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Re: [QtExtended] call for help

2009-04-20 Thread Glen Ogilvie

Hi Franky,

Qtextended-on-freerunner is about the only OS that I have found that works
well as a phone, so would love to see more people helping.

I would like to help with coding, but am in the same boat as you with not
understanding qt extended enough to fix bugs.
I can offer help with a public git/svn server if the is not already one,
and am willing to help with giving people accounts for commits.

Regards
Glen Ogilvie

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:25:26 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke
liede...@telenet.be wrote:
 Ok, it seems my knowledge of qtextended has reached its limits. I'm
 giving up on trying to fix issues that are definitely qtopia-core 
 related. So, if anybody has the skills to help fix issue
 http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/26 feel free to
 jump in. I've spend too much time on these kind of things and since
 even Trolltech didn't bother fixing it, why should I? I'm just one guy
 that happened to put some stuff together, not a company with a bunch of
 developers behind it.
 The same goes for bluetooth.
 So: every qtopia/qt/qtextended developer in this list, please jump in.
 If no response is received, I might as well consider that
 qtextended-on-freerunner is not wanted/needed anymore ... 
 
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Re: [QtExtended] call for help

2009-04-20 Thread Lorn Potter
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 Ok, it seems my knowledge of qtextended has reached its limits. I'm
 giving up on trying to fix issues that are definitely qtopia-core 
 related. So, if anybody has the skills to help fix issue
 http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/26 feel free to
 jump in. I've spend too much time on these kind of things and since
 even Trolltech didn't bother fixing it, why should I? I'm just one guy
 that happened to put some stuff together, not a company with a bunch of
 developers behind it.
 The same goes for bluetooth.
 So: every qtopia/qt/qtextended developer in this list, please jump in.
 If no response is received, I might as well consider that
 qtextended-on-freerunner is not wanted/needed anymore ... 
 
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try something like this:

diff --git a/src/server/pim/savetocontacts/savetocontacts.cpp
b/src/server/pim/savetocontacts/savetocontacts.cpp
index d89cbd2..8e7ecfb 100644
--- a/src/server/pim/savetocontacts/savetocontacts.cpp
+++ b/src/server/pim/savetocontacts/savetocontacts.cpp
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ void SavePhoneNumberDialog::savePhoneNumber(const QString 
number, QWidget *pare
 qt + qApp-translate(SavePhoneNumberDialog, Create a new 
contact?) + /qt,
 QAbstractMessageBox::Warning,
 QAbstractMessageBox::Yes, QAbstractMessageBox::No );
+box-setWindowModality(Qt::WindowModal);

 if (!box) {
 qLog(Component)  SavePhoneNumberDialog: No message box available;




There might be other popup dialogs that have the wrong modality. The fix is 
usually always making it
WindowModal.

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Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it

2009-04-20 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So  19. April 2009 schrieb Daniel Willmann:
 On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:09:15 -0300
 Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org wrote:
 
  Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
   There's a way to detect buzzfix by rapidly switching on and off
   MICBIAS and testing if you hear some buzz when recording from
   builtin mic. Werner has created a small program to do the switching
   job.
  
  I'm actually not sure if this approach works. You can hear the
  ~40-50 Hz buzz that program (*) generates well enough, but when
  I added a buzzfix capacitor, that artificial noise was still
  there.
  
  It could be that I did something wrong, though, including not
  actually applying the buzz fix.
 
 Maybe switching MICBIAS on and off creates an amplitude orders of
 magnitudes higher than than the one introduced with GSM.

yup, for sure
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Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge

2009-04-20 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So  19. April 2009 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen:
 On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 05:11:36PM -0700, Mike Montour wrote:
  
  chg_curlim controls the battery charger, while usb_curlim controls the 
  total current that can be drawn from the USB port (charging + the 
  current used by the Freerunner).
 
Note that whenever you set usb_curlim (directly or indirectly by
 plugging in power), chg_curlim is set to the new value of usb_curlim.

where do you find this info? I've checked shortly and e.g. 8.12.6.2 doesn't 
mention this relation. Maybe I didn't realize the important part?

 usb_curlim can be 0, 100, 500 or 1000 while chg_curlim is between 0
 and 996 (in steps of about 4).

checked 8.12.6.9, Tbl 95, Tbl94, and it's mentioning  : 255/255 × 
Ich(ref) for max current. Please explain to me. Probably I'm missing some 
details

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[SHR] and illume, wooow!

2009-04-20 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
give GPRS a try. works out of the box for me
(as do lots of other things, midori e.g. Me was googling with O2-loop and 
right APN within 3 min ;)
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Re: [SHR] and illume, wooow!

2009-04-20 Thread Konstantin
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
 give GPRS a try. works out of the box for me
 (as do lots of other things, midori e.g. Me was googling with O2-loop and 
 right APN within 3 min ;)
 /j

Speaking of O2, I was looking for the right settings for O2 (Germany) a while,
but was unable to find them. Could you post/pm them to me, or point me to a site
I can find them? Thanks :)

Regards,
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Re: [QtExtended] call for help

2009-04-20 Thread Fabio Locati
Hi Franky,
I think that Qt-Extended is an awesome OS for openmoko. Now I'm only
bug reporting, but I think that from this summer, I'll have enough
spare time to be able to study deeper Qt-Extended, and be able to help
with the code. I have a repositoryhoting account
(repositoryhosting.com) and, if you want, I can give you an SVN/GIT
with a trac. I know you already have one, but if this is a cost for
you, you might want to drop this cost. The account I have is not very
used (I'm using less than the 0.01%) and I pay the same if I use the
0.01% or the 100% ;).

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote:
 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 Ok, it seems my knowledge of qtextended has reached its limits. I'm
 giving up on trying to fix issues that are definitely qtopia-core
 related. So, if anybody has the skills to help fix issue
 http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/26 feel free to
 jump in. I've spend too much time on these kind of things and since
 even Trolltech didn't bother fixing it, why should I? I'm just one guy
 that happened to put some stuff together, not a company with a bunch of
 developers behind it.
 The same goes for bluetooth.
 So: every qtopia/qt/qtextended developer in this list, please jump in.
 If no response is received, I might as well consider that
 qtextended-on-freerunner is not wanted/needed anymore ...

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 try something like this:

 diff --git a/src/server/pim/savetocontacts/savetocontacts.cpp
 b/src/server/pim/savetocontacts/savetocontacts.cpp
 index d89cbd2..8e7ecfb 100644
 --- a/src/server/pim/savetocontacts/savetocontacts.cpp
 +++ b/src/server/pim/savetocontacts/savetocontacts.cpp
 @@ -23,6 +23,7 @@ void SavePhoneNumberDialog::savePhoneNumber(const QString 
 number, QWidget *pare
             qt + qApp-translate(SavePhoneNumberDialog, Create a new 
 contact?) + /qt,
             QAbstractMessageBox::Warning,
             QAbstractMessageBox::Yes, QAbstractMessageBox::No );
 +    box-setWindowModality(Qt::WindowModal);

     if (!box) {
         qLog(Component)  SavePhoneNumberDialog: No message box available;




 There might be other popup dialogs that have the wrong modality. The fix is 
 usually always making it
 WindowModal.

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