Re: It Ain't funny [Was: Ain't it funny..]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: Generally when I hear the word nazi used, it means totalitarian, not monster or mass murderer - think of the soup nazi in Seinfeld. That's what I meant. Not the other. *At All*. Sorry. That just goes to show the meaning has gotten diluted from overuse, doesn't it. Absolutely, to the point that I wasn't even aware that there were other meanings you could read into it, and that's why I felt like such a dick once I had this pointed out to me. Like I said, I learned something, and as a consequence I'll need to find myself a new metaphor for totalitarian... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKBRyUFbVnQRV3OEYRAqlIAKCCPMZT4yqyPLA4nRz5lp+BJ+smtACdE/dy DgRCwUfSfUNgqz5EFt9o1mk= =eS2W -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Am 08.05.2009 um 21:46 schrieb Jon Levell: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: expenses. The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and the time you don't have the Freerunner to use. I've tried to order this but when I try and pay via a credit card, I get a blank screen. I see that it warns about pop-up blockers on the page but I've even tried using IE6 (under Wine) and I still get the blank screen. Is the payment processing broken at the moment? Not generally. Several people have reported a blank screen that is only shown on the first attempt. But we can't debug that easily, because it appears only for real payments and not in debug mode. According to the logic it *should* be a https protected page from either ipayment.de or your bank. If someone can find out the URL of the blank page that would really help us. Thanks, Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-testing] crap crap crap
can someone please attach their /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc please. it should be only a few lines... i accidentally overwrote mine i seem to have destroyed my moko ui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] crap crap crap
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cat /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
gtk-font-name = Sans 5
gtk-theme-name = openmoko-standard-2
gtk-icon-theme-name = openmoko-standard
style treeview
{
GtkTreeView::expander-size = 40
}
widget_class *TreeView* style treeview
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 23:25 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:
can someone please attach their /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc please.
it should be only a few lines... i accidentally overwrote mine
i seem to have destroyed my moko ui
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Re: Version 0.4 of MokoGeocaching released
Well done. But the link seems broken, can anyone help to update the link? $ opkg install https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/82 0/mokogeocaching_0.4_all.ipk opkg: https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/820/mokogeocaching_0.4_all.ipk: No such file or directory Collected errors: * Cannot find package https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/820/mokogeocaching_0.4_all.ipk. On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 23:15 +0200, Jesper Vestergaard wrote: This is a litle gtk python script that searches the geocaching.com site for caches near your current position or a user specified lattitude and longitude and add the cache as a poi in tangogps. This is version 0.4 and the code is still not pretty but quite usable. The package can be found here http://www.opkg.org/package_141.html Warning: I have only tested it on shr unstable The script can now: - get gps location from phone - user can manually set location - user can specify range - script can download matching geocaches and add as poi - read geocaching.com username and password from configuration file - threaded gtk and downloading - but unfortunately not searching - unicode support - gui input for username and password - user can specify whether he wants to download already found caches or skip them and whether he wants to download just caches of a specific type - hints are downloaded and user can specify if hints will be displayed encoded or decoded - coordversion is added. It's a tool to convert coordinates in their different presentations (see below) Future plans: code commenting and sanitizing threaded search Coordversion: You can convert coordinates from one presentation into the two others by entering the given coordinates into the matching row and press the at the end of the line. The other fields will be updated or the status field will display an error. The three presentations are: row - presentation - example - first row - decimal degree - 52.12346 013.98765 second row - degree, decimal minutes - 52 7.4076 13 59.259 third row - degree, minutes, decimal seconds - 52 7 24 11 179 15 You can add the coordinate you just converted as poi into tangogps. Therefore you can specify a name (which will be the title of the poi) and click on add as poi. ATTENTION: It will always be added the point which is currently in the FIRST ROW (decimal degree field). In the two fields below you can enter bearing values in degree and kilometers. By clicking the button in the same row the program will calculate the new coordinates to the given coordinates (again taken from the first row) the angle and the distance and display them in the fields below. From there you can move the new coordinates up again by clicking ^ to keep converting them into other presentations or add them as a poi. Example: You are on a geocaching Trip and on one stage you get the coordinates 52 30.87294, 013 21.003738 and are told to go 150 meters in 45°. You would enter the coordinates into the second row and press the button next to it to get the decimal degree presentation into the first row (52.514549, 13.3500623). Then you would enter 45 and 0.15 in the bearing fields and hit . The new coordinates are displayed below. By pressing ^ you bring the new coordinates up again. Now you can, for example, add a nice name like Stage 2 on my multi and press add as poi. The new poi should now be visible in tangogps. Installation: install python-sqlite3 python-pygtk python-pygtk python-netclient python-mime run mokogeocaching.py or use the mokogeocaching icon located in the launcher. Mokogeocaching works best with tangogps 0.9.6 because of a bug in 0.9.5 where tangogps crashes if a poi i larger than 1500 charaters. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] crap crap crap
fixed!
thank you so very very much for the speedy responce daniel, you have
saved me from a re-flash!
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote:
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cat /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
gtk-font-name = Sans 5
gtk-theme-name = openmoko-standard-2
gtk-icon-theme-name = openmoko-standard
style treeview
{
GtkTreeView::expander-size = 40
}
widget_class *TreeView* style treeview
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 23:25 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:
can someone please attach their /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc please.
it should be only a few lines... i accidentally overwrote mine
i seem to have destroyed my moko ui
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Re: Ain't it funny..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For the Conspiracy Theorists out there: Steve and I are discussing this off-list. For everybody else: This list will now be free of my vitriol while Steve and I talk. Enjoy. Steve Mosher wrote: Dale Maggee wrote: Hi Steve, I appreciate your replying to this thread. I would however point out that I believe that you should have already been aware of this issue before I raised it in this public mailing list: I sent three emails to Openmoko asking about getting a refund, and received no reply to any of them. I've pasted these emails below, after the ---BEGIN EMAIL THREAD--- Line. You were cc'd in two of these emails (the ones saying I've had no reply). I eventually got a response from Tony Tu on the trac ticket, at which point I stopped sending emails to you. Dale, as you can well imagine since I receive mail every single time a FR is ordered, since I receive mail every time we get a request for a return, since I receive mail from the community list and the developer list and since I received mail from cont...@openmoko univers...@openmoko.. oh heck every public mail we have plus I have my email on every press release, you can well imagine that I might have forgotten your name. But I didn't. Two people handled the RMAs on product purchased from OM store. And with Tony on the job I just assumed it would handled. I've been informed that we dont have a record a record of you purchasing the phone from us. That probably explains why Tony could not process the return. As I've indicated, I've already gone through the process of requesting a refund for the device, and this was declined. I think you should be able to find all the info you need at https://support.openmoko.com/trac/ticket/36 Yes. As I stated above we have no record of you purchaing the phone at our store: openmoko.com If you purchased it elsewhere please let me know. All of the guys here who have dealt with me will tell you that I'm a fair and reasonable person. I think that if you want to discuss the refund issue with me, it may be more appropriate to do so off-list, but I realise that I may have created a public image issue for you here (given my usage of the words thieves and defrauded), and that you may therefore want to keep this public. If you're willing to work with me to resolve my grievances and prove my assertions incorrect, then I'd be more than happy to come back here and retract my previous statements once it's resolved :). That might be more appropriate, rather than flooding the mailing list with what will effectively be back-and-forth personal conversations between you and me. but if you want to discuss it in this public place I have no problem with that either - up to you. Makes no difference to me. If I handled this privately I'm sure some lunatic down the road who slam me for taking it private and launch into yact, yet another conspiracy theory. You put your return request into the RMA process for the Openmoko store. For that process to work we have to be able to find you in the database. So, if you could verify that you did in fact purchase the phone from that store ( the sn and imei would help) Then I can do two things: 1. Figure out how the heck the system didnt capture your information 2. Process your return. WRT your language. If I took offense, then I'd be a thief. ( that's a joke.. took a fence) Seriously, I'm no person to lecture people about having a colorful way of expressing anger. I'll just say that some weapons have more collateral damage then others. And sometimes you can frag yourself, intentionally or otherwise, if you don't get clear of the blast zone. Since having my application for a refund declined, I had come to kind of accept that I had been screwed, and I have since bought another phone. Since I did that, I've (in my less angry moments) come to see the FR as a kind-of-cool little open-source device, as long as you don't want to use it as a phone. I haven't really done anything much with it, because so far I've been too angry to really even look at it, but I will admit that it does have potential for something, even if it's not as a reliable phone. I'll check from my side but did they give you a reason for being declined. (That's my whole point, by the way: That it's not a usable phone, even after a year of waiting, and I bought it because I wanted a working open source phone, and I was told that the FR would meet that requirement). I would therefore perhaps be open to accepting a partial refund and keeping the device as a PDA-sized linux device (The AU Laws allow for that), even if I never use it. But I think that if this were to happen I would maybe not feel cheated anymore and could possibly once again enjoy participating constructively in the community. Let's see what turns up when I get the ID numbers I requested.
Re: [SHR] I18N
Well, I don't know German language. But maybe you should install fonts for german. On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 09:28 +0200, hers...@puzzle.ch wrote: hello all, i just want to make my shr-installation german.. i installed diffrent packages to make that: tangogps-locale-de locale-base-de-ch claws-mail-locale-de gpe-calendar-locale-de glibc-binary-localedata-de-ch shr-settings-locale-de libframeworkd-phonegui-efl2-locale-de libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-locale-de but there isn't anything german. so, is anywhere a config-file with which make's possible to change? i also search the enlightement-de-package.. in one installation, it was possible to select german as language, which package should be used for this? hope for help :) greets -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 13:25 -0500, Steven ** wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:13 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Steven ** montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com , that allows you to send an receive files (I believe this is OBEX), etc. This is the feature I am currently missing most. -Steven Does copyu work for you to send files? Rakshat I don't know what that is. But I know it's not installed on my Neo. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Coypu -Steven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
It would be really cool if there was a way to remove files from "downloads" as I already listened to them and there are 37 episodes in it now, slowing things down a bit. Also the whole program locks up while connecting to the internet. It continues to run after it's done. A little threading would improve user experience, I guess!Otherwise: Really nice Program! *Thumbs up*On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 23:46, Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com wrote:Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Valery Febvre wrote: Podboy is a podcast aggregator/player written in Python/Elementary. Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly. I've just seen the screenshots but the interface is very cool. Compliments ;) Thx It uses Feedparser Python module for download/parsing of podcast feeds, I've not tried it, so I'm only figuring this, but not to block the interface you could use the ecore_con (ecore_file_download) functions to retrieve the data. Are you sure that ecore_file has a Python bindings available? Gstreamer for playing of episodes and SQLite for storing data. Is it gstreamer better than mplayer (from the performance point of view)? No. -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
On Fri, 8 May 2009 16:50:27 -0700 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com (JJ) wrote: is there anything you can do about the audio cutting in and out with opening applications or while the device is going into auto-dimming while playing? do you play your content from nand or from usd card? i have this issue too but only when playing from usd card. perhaps some kind of buffer would help seems like mplayer does have such an option, has anyone tried this? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen yeah! i like it. too bad, i seldom reboot -- is there a way to make it appear when resuming? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
2009/4/26 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com: ah, shame - i'm on shr-testing and i can't see it in shr-settings here. Maybe you are using old frameworkd, which doesn't support new kernel. It's fixed for a while. i'm using the most recent shr-settings, with all updates applied. kernel is 2.6.29-rc3 framweworkd is 0.8.5.1+gitr1277+542c7e13e021b609ec0aa1c20615d940adfcf403-r0, which opkg insists is the newest version is there something else i'm missing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly keyboards
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net wrote: Hi, So far on my FR, I've mostly been typing non-dictionary words so the predictive keyboard has been getting in my way. I knew a few people had created finger friendly keyboards so I had a bit of a play. Have you tried Qwo ? http://www.opkg.org/package_84.html for me despite it's unconventional approach and learning curve, this is now my favourite keyboard for sms. I'm using it successfully on shr-testing. YMMV cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 0.4 of MokoGeocaching released
Daniel.Li wrote: Well done. But the link seems broken, can anyone help to update the link? $ opkg install https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/82 0/mokogeocaching_0.4_all.ipk opkg: https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/820/mokogeocaching_0.4_all.ipk: No such file or directory Collected errors: * Cannot find package https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/820/mokogeocaching_0.4_all.ipk. The link on the opkg.org website has been updated and should work now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Tom Yates wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: This is fixed with the current unstable but some new issues have shown up. If you would like to test the fixes change the repo from testing to unstable. For now don't upgrade framework just opkg install paroli. Once the issues with the framework are sorted there will be a new image. ok, thanks for that. i'll try to upgrade before logging any call-related bugs. i got the latest directly from the unstable URL (http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/) and installed it with opkg. for reference, it was paroli_0.2.1+gitr23+*.ipk , and since installing it i've had no more call handling issues. that said, i've only made and received about six calls, but that's definitely more stable than before (which needed a reboot after every other call, tops). now i can get calls more reliably, it's time to rip that vile ringtone out grin! if anyone's curious, i'm starting to jot down notes about what i'm doing to my 2009, they're at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-4.html . they're not pretty, yet, though. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
+1 for BT GUI for A2DP (lol wtf for bbq) On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: +1000 for having gui for easily pair to a Bt headset AND route the sound. This app is really missing, as a BT headset is the only way to avoid the anoying Buz without make surgery on my freerunner Pleaaasse ! :D 2009/5/8 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com copyu failed for me on shr-testing 20090422. bluetooth was enabled but ive just found that you need to manually start the bluetooth through the terminal on other distributions. im going to try later this week again On Fri, May 8, 2009a at 11:13 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Steven ** montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com , that allows you to send an receive files (I believe this is OBEX), etc. This is the feature I am currently missing most. -Steven Does copyu work for you to send files? Rakshat On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:23 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: My idea is to have a large nummber of stable and interesting apps avaialble when stable telephony arrives on the FR. So I am looking at smaller projects - those that can be done in a month by one person. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
good one Doc, too bad I'm using qi now On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 9:38 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen yeah! i like it. too bad, i seldom reboot -- is there a way to make it appear when resuming? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 0.4 of MokoGeocaching released
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 10:35 +0200, Jesper Vestergaard wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: Well done. But the link seems broken, can anyone help to update the link? $ opkg install https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/82 0/mokogeocaching_0.4_all.ipk opkg: https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/820/mokogeocaching_0.4_all.ipk: No such file or directory Collected errors: * Cannot find package https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/820/mokogeocaching_0.4_all.ipk. The link on the opkg.org website has been updated and should work now. Thanks. It works :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
Am Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 09:38:01 schrieb arne anka: DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen yeah! i like it. too bad, i seldom reboot -- is there a way to make it appear when resuming? That'd be cool. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen yeah! i like it. too bad, i seldom reboot -- is there a way to make it appear when resuming? That'd be cool. :) Uhm... wouldn't that be slowing down the resume? (Sorry if I burst bubbles here...) Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
Am Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 12:23:47 schrieb Paul: DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen yeah! i like it. too bad, i seldom reboot -- is there a way to make it appear when resuming? That'd be cool. :) Uhm... wouldn't that be slowing down the resume? (Sorry if I burst bubbles here...) Paul I guess it would do so. Depends how much it does... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
Mokomaze *may* be included in SHR Full Image if community decides so. If you use SHR and played Mokomaze please leave your comment _on_SHR_blog_ [1]. [1] http://blog.shr-project.org/2009/05/mokomaze.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze-0.5.0--is-released-tp2754592p2849629.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Mokomaze] Online level editor
Hi, I've released an Online Level Editor for Mokomaze [1] which is available directly from the project's homepage [2]. It is simple but powerful enough to make accurate levels. Editor is written in JavaScript. Your browser must support canvas tag, so no IE. Tested on Firefox, Opera, Chrome. There is a feature to save your level on the server by just one click - please use it. Nice contributed levels will be included in the Extended levelpack. [1] http://mokomaze.projects.openmoko.org/editor/ [2] http://mokomaze.projects.openmoko.org/ Regards, Anton -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze--Online-level-editor-tp2849635p2849635.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
nice! On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:45 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've released an Online Level Editor for Mokomaze [1] which is available directly from the project's homepage [2]. It is simple but powerful enough to make accurate levels. Editor is written in JavaScript. Your browser must support canvas tag, so no IE. Tested on Firefox, Opera, Chrome. There is a feature to save your level on the server by just one click - please use it. Nice contributed levels will be included in the Extended levelpack. [1] http://mokomaze.projects.openmoko.org/editor/ [2] http://mokomaze.projects.openmoko.org/ Regards, Anton -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze--Online-level-editor-tp2849635p2849635.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner as a wireless streamplayer?
2009/4/19 MartinG grons...@gmail.com My Freerunner has just been collecting dust for the last few months, and after reading a bit regarding the buzz/echo hardware/software problems, I sort of gave up the device. BUT, there has been enough complaining and moaning already, so I thought I'd try to find out what use I can make of the device *today*. In my house I've got a server that holds all my music (mainly ogg, and some mp3), I've got a MythTV backend (providing an upnp service believe), I've got a wireless network (WPA2), and some radios/stereo players in various rooms. Technically, the Freerunner is capable of connecting to an upnp server of the wlan, right? And to decode ogg, and send (stereo) output throught the jack, right? (if not ogg, I guess I could do on-the-fly recoding of ogg on the server) Maybe a MythTV Frontend for freerunner will be a good idea. Is this exist from Tr3vin0 ? I've briefly search the list and the wiki and found this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications but I didn't find out if such an app really exists. Thing is, I have not yet managed to get a system up an running and connected to my wifi (I did have an early version of Qt sporadically connected, but got too frustrated by the interface). To be honest, I'm a bit lost regarding what distros currently exist and what distros are working. I tried the QT Extended Improved, but I guess I failed at following the somewhat long list of manual tweaking, so my FR doesn't currently boot (don't get me wrong, I highly appreciate the work done by the QtEI team). So what I ask is: Is it possible to download an image, simply reflash the phone, connect to my wlan, and opkg/ipkg install a player that is able play streams from my local server? (Is it possible to do *now*, or do I have to wait for teamA to finish featureX and make them talk to teamB, etc. Please be honest, I've been too optimistic for too long, and simply would like to know what are the possibilities as of today) best regards, MartinG -- When you change the subject, also change the subject line, okay? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: nandwrite problem in writing uboot env (/dev/mtd2)
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 02:48:33AM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes: You're not using uboot-envedit from the fso-utils package. uboot-envedit is horribly slow. fw_setenv is in debian main and works faster. But fw_setenv doesn't do what he wants it to, does it? With uboot-envedit you can get your current environment into a plain text file where you can edit it with your text editor of choice. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Replace battery in suspend
Hi, is it possible to do the following: * power off GSM * suspend * plug external USB power supply (can do 100,500 and 1000mA) * open device and exchange battery * resume again * power on GSM * (optional) unplug USB power supply I do not have a second battery (yet) but this scenario might occur while GPS tracking and not having the possibility to charge. I already have this external USB battery but it will not be enough to cover all the time I need my Frerunner running. I read somewhere that the GSM alway gets its power directly from the battery, thus my interest in turning it off before suspending. Can this work or might this even break anything? Thanks for your help. Cheers, Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
Richy wrote: It would be really cool if there was a way to remove files from downloads as I already listened to them and there are 37 episodes in it now, slowing things down a bit. Yes, good idea Also the whole program locks up while connecting to the internet. It continues to run after it's done. A little threading would improve user experience, I guess! Unfortunately no. Every download is already run in a wget sub-process. Gui is not freezed during downloads, it's just very slow. You can experienced big slowness during downloads if: 1. you use Download all button 2. your podcasts are stored in the SD glamo's bus is too small to handle in the same time IO for SD and graphics :-( Otherwise: Really nice Program! *Thumbs up* Thx -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
2009/5/10 Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com: Unfortunately no. Every download is already run in a wget sub-process. Gui is not freezed during downloads, it's just very slow. You can experienced big slowness during downloads if: 1. you use Download all button 2. your podcasts are stored in the SD glamo's bus is too small to handle in the same time IO for SD and graphics :-( if this is the case, can you give an option to throttle download speed, to leave enough bandwidth over glamo bus to let graphics work nicely? i think --limit-rate=RATE as a wget option, will do that ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-testing] yaouh breaking tangogps
last night i installed yaouh to update my tangogps files. it ran once but i had to stop it along the way due to other issues ran it again latter. opened up tangogps and i can see no map at all. switching repos does not display any map. opkg remove did not work either, seems tangogps remembers itself and will not do a clean remove. so now i have a tangogps with a map repository that on its own shows the maps. just not within tangogps itself. help ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replace battery in suspend
Am Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 14:20:08 schrieb Christian Rüb: Hi, is it possible to do the following: * power off GSM * suspend * plug external USB power supply (can do 100,500 and 1000mA) * open device and exchange battery * resume again * power on GSM * (optional) unplug USB power supply I do not have a second battery (yet) but this scenario might occur while GPS tracking and not having the possibility to charge. I already have this external USB battery but it will not be enough to cover all the time I need my Frerunner running. I read somewhere that the GSM alway gets its power directly from the battery, thus my interest in turning it off before suspending. Can this work or might this even break anything? Thanks for your help. At least on Debian the system resumes once you plug in the external power so you would have to do that before suspending. I already took the battery out while the Neo was on usb power and it still ran - but I didn't re- insert it then (because I was intending a hard reboot ;) ) so I don't know if that could damage anything. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] yaouh breaking tangogps
2009/5/10 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com: last night i installed yaouh to update my tangogps files. it ran once but i had to stop it along the way due to other issues ran it again latter. opened up tangogps and i can see no map at all. switching repos does not display any map. opkg remove did not work either, seems tangogps remembers itself and will not do a clean remove. as far as i know, the only file tangogps creates that makes any reference to the repository, is ~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml try renaming/deleting that, and then reinstall tangogps. as to why yaouh screwed things up; i've never seen that, and dozens of times i've stopped it/had it drop out part-way through, and i've never had a problem - it seems very robust so now i have a tangogps with a map repository that on its own shows the maps. just not within tangogps itself. are there any tiles in your maps directory? can you get new tiles, by dragging the map to an area you haven't been before? or, you could try the 'download maps' option in tango, to force downloading of an area ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] I18N
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 02:43:00AM +0400, ivvmm wrote: Like in every normal GNU/Linux distribution create an executable sh script in /etc/profile.d/ (better to name it lang.sh) where put lines #!/bin/sh No: $ head -n 3 /etc/profile.d/lang.sh # /etc/profile.d/lang.sh - set i18n stuff sourced=0 export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 do not forget to make it executable. No: $ ls -l /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2693 11 nov 17:59 /etc/profile.d/lang.sh /etc/profile is responsible for launching that script. No, it includes the script. Otherwise, something like lang.sh wouldn't work. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze 0.5.0] is released
2009/5/9 ANT ant0...@gmail.com: Mokomaze *may* be included in SHR Full Image if community decides so. If you use SHR and played Mokomaze please leave your comment _on_SHR_blog_ hmm. i talked to multiple people on the shr project last week, about fixing certain broken things (see multiple discussions here and on shr-user list about broken e dependencies). the response i got was along the lines of 'it was a good decision to release it in a broken state, we're not fixing it'. i realise you're under no compulsion to do what anyone asks, despite asking for opinions above, but i would suggest fixing a fairly critical bug such as that be ahead of getting mokomaze working out of the box. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: nandwrite problem in writing uboot env (/dev/mtd2)
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 05:34:59PM +0200, giacomo giotti mariani wrote:
Hello list,
some day ago I decided to change some uboot environment variable (ext2
fs in ext3 fs) from my OM2008.12 booted from the uSD.
Sorry, I didn't see this at first. Why not just fix the U-Boot
environment? The U-Boot environtment shipped by OM is a mess. Instead of
bootcmd=setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} ...
menu_1=...: setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=...
bootargs_base=rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 console=...
change it to some thing like this:
bootcmd=setenv bootargs rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 ${bootargs_base}
${mtdparts} ...
menu_1=...: setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} root=...
bootargs_base=console=...
Then you can use ext2/3/4, reiserfs or whatever else your kernel supports
on your SD card without changing the U-Boot environment.
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Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
Very nice! Am Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 12:45:04 schrieb ANT: Hi, I've released an Online Level Editor for Mokomaze [1] which is available directly from the project's homepage [2]. It is simple but powerful enough to make accurate levels. Editor is written in JavaScript. Your browser must support canvas tag, so no IE. Tested on Firefox, Opera, Chrome. There is a feature to save your level on the server by just one click - please use it. Nice contributed levels will be included in the Extended levelpack. [1] http://mokomaze.projects.openmoko.org/editor/ [2] http://mokomaze.projects.openmoko.org/ Regards, Anton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
On Saturday 09 May 2009 12:45:04 ANT wrote: Tested on Firefox, Opera, Chrome. Works also with Konqueror! Very nice! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2009] testing Release 3
Hi, Another week of hard work brings a new testing image, lets hear it for the kernel, paroli and freesmartphone.org teams. As always it still has some issues ( that we are still working on ) The gta01 image boots but calling it working is a bit of a stretch. - Call volume is so low as to be nearly non-existent - usb networking is broken ( probably a modules issue ) - paroli tries to initialize the wifi on gta01 - some menus missing from settings ( illume profile switch for one ) Images and kernels can be found here http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/ Details for flashing, bug reporting and debug logging can be found here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 Features ( this includes some from last week ) Paroli settings screen - settings enabled by default ( Hold AUX for a few seconds ) - SIM settings PIN - Network settings ( these are carrier dependant ) Network selection and roaming status Call forwarding Messages - Wifi settings ( custom /etc/network/interfaces files will confuse connman ) - change illume profile ( paroli fulsscreen or illume ) - GPRS settings APN settings enable or disable GPRS - phone profile settings menu ringtone volume vibration on incoming call message volume vibration on incoming message New feature's in the FSO framework - Configurable ntp server - Automatic time setting ( requires GPS or network connection ) - Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries Bugs fixed - Power button does not shutdown device - otimed sets timezone incorrectly in large countries FSO 389 - Power status events ignored FSO 381 - feeds are incorrectly set to unstable Angus PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg upgrade it won't work. At the very minimum you will need to opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli and then reinstall them ( and no -force-reinstall won't be enough ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen If you are using SHR from microSD an Qi, you can use that bootsplash when whole system is booting just in just 2 steps: Execute: opkg install shr-splash-theme-dontpanic Open /boot/append-GTA02 file and add splash to the end of line. Reboot and you will see boot and shutdown splash screen, which doesn't slow down anything :) You can also use another theme: opkg install shr-splash-theme-simple But remember - to use one theme, you have to uninstall second theme before installing new one. BTW. Just for my huge ego: -simple and -dontpanic splashes (and whole shr-splash idea) are done by me ;) Regards, dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 09:55, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: framweworkd is 0.8.5.1+gitr1277+542c7e13e021b609ec0aa1c20615d940adfcf403-r0, frameworkd - 0.8.5.1+gitr1364+3ca073dcfbfd4d948bca398e878fb893229a3218-r3 - I think that's the answer ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Hi, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: [blank screen when ordering a debuzzing] Not generally. Several people have reported a blank screen that is only shown on the first attempt. But we can't debug that easily, because it appears only for real payments and not in debug mode. I'll e-mail you off-list. Jon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replace battery in suspend
On Sat, 9 May 2009 14:49:59 +0200 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com (M) wrote: Am Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 14:20:08 schrieb Christian Rüb: Hi, is it possible to do the following: * power off GSM * suspend * plug external USB power supply (can do 100,500 and 1000mA) * open device and exchange battery * resume again * power on GSM * (optional) unplug USB power supply I do not have a second battery (yet) but this scenario might occur while GPS tracking and not having the possibility to charge. I already have this external USB battery but it will not be enough to cover all the time I need my Frerunner running. I read somewhere that the GSM alway gets its power directly from the battery, thus my interest in turning it off before suspending. Can this work or might this even break anything? Thanks for your help. At least on Debian the system resumes once you plug in the external power so you would have to do that before suspending. I already took the battery out while the Neo was on usb power and it still ran - but I didn't re- insert it then (because I was intending a hard reboot ;) ) so I don't know if that could damage anything. -- Marcel you don't need to suspend - just plug usb in and replace battery. iirc this should do no harm to neo... i do this all the time. i am even thinking of a tiny small usb battery (20sec of runtime is sufficient) for quick battery replacement... of course, gsm is powered directly so it will loose power... for the time of replacement -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replace battery in suspend
hi 2009/5/9, Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net: Hi, is it possible to do the following: * power off GSM * suspend * plug external USB power supply (can do 100,500 and 1000mA) * open device and exchange battery * resume again * power on GSM * (optional) unplug USB power supply Just exchange the battery when on usb power (500mA is enough). No need to suspend or even disable gsm/gps/screen ... hendrik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
Does non latin symbols in SMS and other apps displays correctly with this release? On Суббота 09 мая 2009 17:36:55 Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi, Another week of hard work brings a new testing image, lets hear it for the kernel, paroli and freesmartphone.org teams. As always it still has some issues ( that we are still working on ) The gta01 image boots but calling it working is a bit of a stretch. - Call volume is so low as to be nearly non-existent - usb networking is broken ( probably a modules issue ) - paroli tries to initialize the wifi on gta01 - some menus missing from settings ( illume profile switch for one ) Images and kernels can be found here http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/ Details for flashing, bug reporting and debug logging can be found here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 Features ( this includes some from last week ) Paroli settings screen - settings enabled by default ( Hold AUX for a few seconds ) - SIM settings PIN - Network settings ( these are carrier dependant ) Network selection and roaming status Call forwarding Messages - Wifi settings ( custom /etc/network/interfaces files will confuse connman ) - change illume profile ( paroli fulsscreen or illume ) - GPRS settings APN settings enable or disable GPRS - phone profile settings menu ringtone volume vibration on incoming call message volume vibration on incoming message New feature's in the FSO framework - Configurable ntp server - Automatic time setting ( requires GPS or network connection ) - Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries Bugs fixed - Power button does not shutdown device - otimed sets timezone incorrectly in large countries FSO 389 - Power status events ignored FSO 381 - feeds are incorrectly set to unstable Angus PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg upgrade it won't work. At the very minimum you will need to opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli and then reinstall them ( and no -force-reinstall won't be enough ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov Gentoo Team Ru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replace battery in suspend
Am Sa 9. Mai 2009 schrieb Christian Rüb: Hi, is it possible to do the following: * power off GSM * suspend * plug external USB power supply (can do 100,500 and 1000mA) * open device and exchange battery * resume again * power on GSM * (optional) unplug USB power supply I do not have a second battery (yet) but this scenario might occur while GPS tracking and not having the possibility to charge. I already have this external USB battery but it will not be enough to cover all the time I need my Frerunner running. I read somewhere that the GSM alway gets its power directly from the battery, thus my interest in turning it off before suspending. Can this work or might this even break anything? It's perfectly safe to swap battery while hooked to = 500mA USB-power (GTA02 only! Never do this on GTA01 unless you know exactly what you're doing). Your considerations regarding GSM are correct, it needs a re-init after new bat inserted. Alas this seems to be a broken function in SHR atm. cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
On Sat, 9 May 2009 12:10:06 +0200 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 09:38:01 schrieb arne anka: DON'T PANIC uBoot splashscreen yeah! i like it. too bad, i seldom reboot -- is there a way to make it appear when resuming? That'd be cool. :) For what it's worth, the console banner is visible during suspend and resume transitions. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger friendly keyboards
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 06:59:30PM +1000, Denis Johnson wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net wrote: So far on my FR, I've mostly been typing non-dictionary words so the predictive keyboard has been getting in my way. I knew a few people had created finger friendly keyboards so I had a bit of a play. Have you tried Qwo ? http://www.opkg.org/package_84.html for me despite it's unconventional approach and learning curve, this is now my favourite keyboard for sms. I'm using it on Debian, including for terminal use. The only features I miss are - autorepeat. - a smaller version for stylus use so you have more of the screen available. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: On Saturday 09 May 2009 12:45:04 ANT wrote: Tested on Firefox, Opera, Chrome. Works also with Konqueror! Firefox3.0.10/Linux - buggy but works. -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] Re: OpenMoko and LCD TV
On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Stefan Monnier wrote: They run Linux on TVs now?? What kind of processing is a TV doing that needs an OS overseeing it? I think it started with MHEG engines for DVB, and EPG. Next they started adding things like SD and USB with media viewers. This one's got an ethernet port that's currently unused, but some use them for streaming media playback. The problem is the usual one - things that don't quite behave as you want them to, or functions the hardware's capable of but they haven't implemented. Is the firmware's source available somewhere? http://www.am-linux.jp/dl/EUIDTV6 This has source tarballs for a few packages. I've not found the firmware itself available for download. The URL is given along with the text of the GPL and LGPL v2 under the Software Licence menu. It notes that some of the software is GPL, some LGPL and some software developed by third parties and available under certain terms and conditions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi, [...] PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg upgrade it won't work. At the very minimum you will need to opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli and then reinstall them ( and no -force-reinstall won't be enough ) Why do you say At the very minimum, what else is required/recommended? I would like to upgrade from testing 2 to testing 3, can you confirm that the following will work? opkg update opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli opkg install frameworkd paroli opkg upgrade As well do i need to update the kernel and/or Qi? Regards, Chris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Invitation: First Openmoko Workshop in Munich
Dear all, we (Rene *relei* and some other Free Runners in Munich area) are planning the first Openmoko Users Workshop in Munich. It will start on some Friday evening and go until Saturday night. Most likely we will get a room at the Munich University of Applied Sciences. The exact weekend is not yet determined so you are invited to vote: http://doodle.com/d5wzgyd68sid66zp For the agenda, Dr. Mickey will talk about programming with FSO. We also want to invite you to give presentations where you can demonstrate or show us what you have done. Either about software, hardware documentation, programming languages etc. is very welcome. Any level (from beginner to very experienced) is welcome. German or English is both ok (but you should understand German if you are coming as a visitor to get most out of the meeting). Detailed discussions around the workshop (in German) can be found here: http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=20t=1112start=30#p12443 Please spread this invitation to whoever you think is interested in such a workshop. Nikolaus PS: there will be no agenda topic Buzz-Fix-Party because that would require a much different technical setup. Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replace battery in suspend
Am Samstag, 9. Mai 2009 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am Sa 9. Mai 2009 schrieb Christian Rüb: Hi, is it possible to do the following: * power off GSM * suspend * plug external USB power supply (can do 100,500 and 1000mA) * open device and exchange battery * resume again * power on GSM * (optional) unplug USB power supply I do not have a second battery (yet) but this scenario might occur while GPS tracking and not having the possibility to charge. I already have this external USB battery but it will not be enough to cover all the time I need my Frerunner running. I read somewhere that the GSM alway gets its power directly from the battery, thus my interest in turning it off before suspending. Can this work or might this even break anything? It's perfectly safe to swap battery while hooked to = 500mA USB-power (GTA02 only! Never do this on GTA01 unless you know exactly what you're doing). Your considerations regarding GSM are correct, it needs a re-init after new bat inserted. Alas this seems to be a broken function in SHR atm. cheers jOERG Thank you all for your replies. So is GSM power down and up equal to a reset and would do the thing? Related question - does anyone know an external charger for the 2nd Freerunner battery? Is it a good idea to use one of this cheap 5€ Nokia chargers, that are capable of charging a mobile and battery at the same time? Cheers, Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QTEi] battery duration
Hi all, Is it my impression or QTEi from Franky tree has a much shorter lifetime then QTE? with standard QTE I could recharge once every 2/3 days, now it doesn't really get to the end of day. Franky, do you have any clue from where to start watching? ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
Sweet. Is there a way to browse levels people have created without having you bundle them into a levelpack? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
The Digital Pioneer Sweet. Is there a way to browse levels people have created without having you bundle them into a levelpack? Of course. Browse the list of saved levels - view -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Mokomaze--Online-level-editor-tp2849635p2850748.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTEi] battery duration
Franky's QtEI last, on my phone, for 2/3 days... maybe your battery is going do die? On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:24 PM, leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote: Hi all, Is it my impression or QTEi from Franky tree has a much shorter lifetime then QTE? with standard QTE I could recharge once every 2/3 days, now it doesn't really get to the end of day. Franky, do you have any clue from where to start watching? ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTEi] battery duration
I had the same issue. Is this a fresh install or an update of Francky's QTEi ? 2009/5/9 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com Franky's QtEI last, on my phone, for 2/3 days... maybe your battery is going do die? On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:24 PM, leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote: Hi all, Is it my impression or QTEi from Franky tree has a much shorter lifetime then QTE? with standard QTE I could recharge once every 2/3 days, now it doesn't really get to the end of day. Franky, do you have any clue from where to start watching? ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
Ahh, yes, I missed that... :] Cool. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 16:42 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi, [...] PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg upgrade it won't work. At the very minimum you will need to opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli and then reinstall them ( and no -force-reinstall won't be enough ) Why do you say At the very minimum, what else is required/recommended? I would like to upgrade from testing 2 to testing 3, can you confirm that the following will work? opkg update opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli opkg install frameworkd paroli opkg upgrade No I can't confirm that it will work. That may be sufficient but there might be other dependencies I have missed, some will be upgrade automatically but there is a small class ( those packages pegged from git and svn repos ) that won't upgrade automatically. The only thing I can confirm is that I have used this technique on one of the testing phones and the phone seemed to work correctly. The only way to guarantee that all of the dependencies are properly upgraded is to flash the image. As well do i need to update the kernel and/or Qi? If qi was working with release 2 it doesn't need to be changed and the kernel is the same as release 2. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Messages Contact Lookup
I really want to use SHR as my daily phone, but the main problem I have is that the messages application does not do a lookup into the contacts list when a message is received, so the number is always shown, even if the contact is known. Does anyone have a patch written or quick fix for this? Everything else seems to work great. Great job to the SHR team! -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor
On Sat, 9 May 2009 12:14:46 -0500 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com (TDP) wrote: Ahh, yes, I missed that... :] Cool. :) no, it wasn't there before :)) in one afternoon we have 9 new levels :) great, thanks for the idea and for coding! -- Petr Vanek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Messages Contact Lookup
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 19:48, Dan Staley dlst...@uky.edu wrote: I really want to use SHR as my daily phone, but the main problem I have is that the messages application does not do a lookup into the contacts list when a message is received, so the number is always shown, even if the contact is known. Does anyone have a patch written or quick fix for this? Everything else seems to work great. Great job to the SHR team! It's there for a while in shr-unstable... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sat, 09 May 2009 07:36:55 -0600 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org (AA) wrote: Another week of hard work brings a new testing image, lets hear it for the kernel, paroli and freesmartphone.org teams. As always it still has some issues ( that we are still working on ) wow! i haven't tested stability, but the settings app is full of great features some of them missing in other distros i.e. message delivery notification and call forwarding. and i big plus - the responses are really fast. thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
2009/5/9 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com: If you are using SHR from microSD an Qi, you can use that bootsplash when whole system is booting just in just 2 steps: Execute: opkg install shr-splash-theme-dontpanic Open /boot/append-GTA02 file and add splash to the end of line. On SHR-testing, I am getting: $ opkg install shr-splash-theme-dontpanic Collected errors: * Cannot find package shr-splash-theme-dontpanic. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: wow! i haven't tested stability, but the settings app is full of great features some of them missing in other distros i.e. message delivery notification and call forwarding. and i big plus - the responses are really fast. Glad you like it :) Can you let me know if the Call forwarding works? I haven't found a SIM to test it with yet :) /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: DON'T PANIC
tried the shr-unstable feeD? On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/9 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com: If you are using SHR from microSD an Qi, you can use that bootsplash when whole system is booting just in just 2 steps: Execute: opkg install shr-splash-theme-dontpanic Open /boot/append-GTA02 file and add splash to the end of line. On SHR-testing, I am getting: $ opkg install shr-splash-theme-dontpanic Collected errors: * Cannot find package shr-splash-theme-dontpanic. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
Angus Ainslie wrote: On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 16:42 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi, [...] PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg upgrade it won't work. At the very minimum you will need to opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli and then reinstall them ( and no -force-reinstall won't be enough ) Why do you say At the very minimum, what else is required/recommended? I would like to upgrade from testing 2 to testing 3, can you confirm that the following will work? opkg update opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli opkg install frameworkd paroli opkg upgrade No I can't confirm that it will work. That may be sufficient but there might be other dependencies I have missed, some will be upgrade automatically but there is a small class ( those packages pegged from git and svn repos ) that won't upgrade automatically. The only thing I can confirm is that I have used this technique on one of the testing phones and the phone seemed to work correctly. The only way to guarantee that all of the dependencies are properly upgraded is to flash the image. As well do i need to update the kernel and/or Qi? If qi was working with release 2 it doesn't need to be changed and the kernel is the same as release 2. My update sequence showed some errors. Actions executed: opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli opkg update opkg upgrade opkg install frameworkd paroli - paroli did not install because of conflict with the file /usr/share/elementary/themes/default.edj with elementary-themes opkg remove elementary-themes -recursive opkg install paroli opkg install paroli-autostart paroli-sounds - paroli did not want to start because of missing dependency opkg install python-elementary - paroli starts, waiting for someone to call me on saterday night :) Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 22:18, Hans Zimmerman h...@everlasting.be wrote: My update sequence showed some errors. Actions executed: opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli opkg update opkg upgrade opkg install frameworkd paroli - paroli did not install because of conflict with the file /usr/share/elementary/themes/default.edj with elementary-themes opkg remove elementary-themes -recursive opkg install paroli opkg install paroli-autostart paroli-sounds - paroli did not want to start because of missing dependency opkg install python-elementary - paroli starts, waiting for someone to call me on saterday night :) opkg remove elementary-themes -recursive was really wrong!!! You should use -force-depends... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Суббота 09 мая 2009 17:36:55 Angus Ainslie wrote: New feature's in the FSO framework - Configurable ntp server - Automatic time setting ( requires GPS or network connection ) - Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries This dont works =( At least for me -- Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov Gentoo Team Ru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] yaouh breaking tangogps
as far as i know, the only file tangogps creates that makes any reference to the repository, is ~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml good to know. but im going to do a re-flash anyway try renaming/deleting that, and then reinstall tangogps. as to why yaouh screwed things up; i've never seen that, and dozens of times i've stopped it/had it drop out part-way through, and i've never had a problem - it seems very robust i was having some issues with my gtkrc file last night, so i had some overly dramatic ui issues. i think that may have been the culprit then/ are there any tiles in your maps directory? can you get new tiles, by dragging the map to an area you haven't been before? or, you could try the 'download maps' option in tango, to force downloading of an area path in repository is correct. i switch to the default OSM which saves into home/root/OSM and tried to download maps. the little blue downloader was counting down then disappearing as if it had downloaded the area but nothing would display. also switched to topo and open cycle. do no result. thankfully gps tracking still worked. i was rushing this morning to get a functional gps for a big trip. now that is over im just going to do a nice clean re-flash to get everything back how it should be thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Messages Contact Lookup
On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 08:10:28PM +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 19:48, Dan Staley dlst...@uky.edu wrote: I really want to use SHR as my daily phone, but the main problem I have is that the messages application does not do a lookup into the contacts list when a message is received, so the number is always shown, even if the contact is known. Does anyone have a patch written or quick fix for this? Everything else seems to work great. Great job to the SHR team! It's there for a while in shr-unstable... Are there major differences from the testing to unstable on the contacts application? I was considering taking a peek into it for adding real contacts (and not those on the SIM card)... Rui -- You are what you see. Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 56th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTEi] battery duration
On Sat, 09 May 2009 18:24:17 +0200 leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote: Hi all, Is it my impression or QTEi from Franky tree has a much shorter lifetime then QTE? with standard QTE I could recharge once every 2/3 days, now it doesn't really get to the end of day. Franky, do you have any clue from where to start watching? ciao, leonardo. hmmm ... make sure bluetooth isn't on/activated. To be sure: remove even the start script for bluetooth. For the rest, it should be ok, but I never got 2+ days myself. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Messages Contact Lookup
I just flashed the latest SHR unstable (built today) and all sms messages still just get a number displayed instead of a name for me, even if the person is in my contacts list. The lookup seems to work fine on incoming calls though. Can anyone else confirm this behavior? Also, has anyone patched this problem in some way? I'll try to take a look at it tomorrow if no one has. -Dan Staley On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 14:10 -0400, Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 19:48, Dan Staley dlst...@uky.edu wrote: I really want to use SHR as my daily phone, but the main problem I have is that the messages application does not do a lookup into the contacts list when a message is received, so the number is always shown, even if the contact is known. Does anyone have a patch written or quick fix for this? Everything else seems to work great. Great job to the SHR team! It's there for a while in shr-unstable... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Messages Contact Lookup
On Sunday 10 May 2009 01:13:26 Dan Staley wrote: I just flashed the latest SHR unstable (built today) and all sms messages still just get a number displayed instead of a name for me, even if the person is in my contacts list. The lookup seems to work fine on incoming calls though. Can anyone else confirm this behavior? Same here... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
2009/5/10 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com: On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 09:55, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: framweworkd is 0.8.5.1+gitr1277+542c7e13e021b609ec0aa1c20615d940adfcf403-r0, frameworkd - 0.8.5.1+gitr1364+3ca073dcfbfd4d948bca398e878fb893229a3218-r3 - I think that's the answer ;) right. so, why doesn't opkg update and opkg upgrade get it? i tried opkg install frameworkd, and opkg tells me it's up to date already these are the only frameworkd packages in the shr-testing repo: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/frameworkd_0.8.5.1+gitr516f48762ab7afa4e4702a0ba01bc0a004ae4c60-r1_armv4t.ipk http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ipk//armv4t/frameworkd_0.8.5.1+gitr516f48762ab7afa4e4702a0ba01bc0a004ae4c60-r2_armv4t.ipk where are you finding the revision you quoted? r1364 is only in the shr-unstable repo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:21:59AM +0800, Qingyou Meng wrote: Because display and GPS chip may be powered on for a long while, I choose to test them here. [snip] Here is the results: 1. when GPS chip is powered off, test brightness vs. battery current: * brightness = 100%: battery current ~= 203 mA * brightness = 75%: battery current ~= 153 mA * brightness = 50%: battery current ~= 116 mA * brightness = 25%: battery current ~= 101 mA * brightness = 0%: battery current ~= 95 mA See also http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-October/005542.html I.e. you're not turning the display off by just setting the backlight brightness to 0. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Save 8 mA. Apmd considered harmful? (Was: test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode)
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:56:26AM +0100, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:
You must have done something wrong. I frequently test power comsumption
and I get 54 mA on a fully charged battery, dropping slowly as the battery
discharges[1] and nearly 20 hours battery life.
FWIW, I test with this command on a Debian installation:
sleep 120 cat
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/{status,current_now,voltage_now,capacity}
[1] It's supposed to be the other way around - current increasing as the
battery discharges - but there's a current leak somewhere. It was down to 46
mA not too long ago with a kernel from the andy-tracking branch.
This mysterious current leak seems to be fixed by not running apmd!
# /etc/init.d/apmd stop
# update-rc.d -f apmd remove
# update-rc.d apmd stop 20 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 .
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How to use FR as a mass storage device?
Dear List, Well, I found that copying files to FR is quite difficult with tftp/wget. Is there any way simple, like usb(mass storage device, just like a thumb drive) Or there might be something i missed, please redirect me to the correct page. Thanks. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Need battery help in DC area
My Freerunner battery is dead and I cannot boot it. Have tried the suggestions on the wiki, none of which work for me. So I need to find someone who can charge my battery, or someone whose battery I can borrow, or someone with a battery charger I can borrow or some such idea. Any help is greatly appreciated... Also, does anyone have instruction on how to fix my Freerunner so it can boot off USB or wall charger? Is it a hardware mod or firmwae upgrade or something? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need battery help in DC area
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 22:36 -0400, Paul Buede wrote: My Freerunner battery is dead and I cannot boot it. Have tried the suggestions on the wiki, none of which work for me. So I need to find someone who can charge my battery, or someone whose battery I can borrow, or someone with a battery charger I can borrow or some such idea. Any help is greatly appreciated... Also, does anyone have instruction on how to fix my Freerunner so it can boot off USB or wall charger? Is it a hardware mod or firmwae upgrade or something? How about buy a charger :) And FR can boot without battery with USB cable connected. Is it a gta01? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need battery help in DC area
Uhhh, since when? The FR can't even run off of pure USB power for more than a few seconds. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need battery help in DC area
2009/5/10 Paul Buede p...@buede.com: My Freerunner battery is dead and I cannot boot it. Have tried the suggestions on the wiki, none of which work for me. So I need to find someone who can charge my battery, or someone whose battery I can borrow, or someone with a battery charger I can borrow or some such idea. Any help is greatly appreciated... ever since i've had my fr, it's been able to boot with a dead battery, from a usb socket. it usually takes a couple or three goes over a few minutes, but it's never failed for me ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use FR as a mass storage device?
2009/5/10 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Well, I found that copying files to FR is quite difficult with tftp/wget. Is there any way simple, like usb(mass storage device, just like a thumb drive) Or there might be something i missed, please redirect me to the correct page. Thanks. there's a module in shr-settings which allows manual switching between usb mass-storage, usb host and usb device. there's some problems with my installation of -testing so i can't see it, but i believe it's there in shr-unstable ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use FR as a mass storage device?
On Sun, 10 May 2009 10:20:30 +0800 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com said: Dear List, Well, I found that copying files to FR is quite difficult with tftp/wget. Is there any way simple, like usb(mass storage device, just like a thumb drive) Or there might be something i missed, please redirect me to the correct page. Thanks. tried scp? :) nice and easy. sshfs is another option if u want it from a gui fm... -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need battery help in DC area
Same with mine, but it can't actually run on USB power. Too bad. Heheh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use FR as a mass storage device?
On Sun, 10 May 2009 10:20:30 +0800 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com said: Dear List, Well, I found that copying files to FR is quite difficult with tftp/wget. Is there any way simple, like usb(mass storage device, just like a thumb drive) Or there might be something i missed, please redirect me to the correct page. Thanks. also remember - usb storage is block-based. it could ONLY export the micro-sd card, and while exported it cannot be visible/mounted on the phone, so its a lot of caveats. use scp - simplest way, or better, nfs export from the phone (u'll need to add some packages). :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use FR as a mass storage device?
I always use scp. As to the SHR-settings option for setting it to USB-mass storage device, it used to be there, but it's not anymore in SHR-unstable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need battery help in DC area
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 21:53 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Uhhh, since when? The FR can't even run off of pure USB power for more than a few seconds. Oh, I re-checked. I can run with out battery (with usb cable connected :) ) only if it has booted. If just connect usb and try to boot FR. No it can't. Sorry for the trouble. :( -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need battery help in DC area
I'm guessing it will run for a while, but after 20 seconds or so it will die. That's what mine does. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use FR as a mass storage device?
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 13:17 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 10 May 2009 10:20:30 +0800 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com said: Dear List, Well, I found that copying files to FR is quite difficult with tftp/wget. Is there any way simple, like usb(mass storage device, just like a thumb drive) Or there might be something i missed, please redirect me to the correct page. Thanks. also remember - usb storage is block-based. it could ONLY export the micro-sd card, and while exported it cannot be visible/mounted on the phone, so its a lot of caveats. use scp - simplest way, or better, nfs export from the phone (u'll need to add some packages). :) Hum... nfs is a really good idea. a) I have got below items, which one should I install? b) Is it same as configuration on x86 paltform (/etc/exports)? kernel-module-nfs - 2.6.29-oe10+gitr119805 +f656a97d946a2529630c9770a72c10a24dc397f9-r3.4 - nfs kernel module kernel-module-nfs - 2.6.29-oe10+gitr119801 +b4136a36f31a65d0998a328465df9e8e2ba93166-r3.4 - kernel-module-nfs-acl - 2.6.29-oe10+gitr119805 +f656a97d946a2529630c9770a72c10a24dc397f9-r3.4 - nfs-acl kernel module kernel-module-nfs-acl - 2.6.29-oe10+gitr119801 +b4136a36f31a65d0998a328465df9e8e2ba93166-r3.4 - kernel-module-nfsd - 2.6.29-oe10+gitr119805 +f656a97d946a2529630c9770a72c10a24dc397f9-r3.4 - nfsd kernel module kernel-module-nfsd - 2.6.29-oe10+gitr119801 +b4136a36f31a65d0998a328465df9e8e2ba93166-r3.4 - task-base-nfs - 1.0-r80 - Merge machine and distro options to create a basic machine task/package task-base-nfs-dbg - 1.0-r80 - Merge machine and distro options to create a basic machine task/package task-base-nfs-dev - 1.0-r80 - Merge machine and distro options to create a basic machine task/package -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use FR as a mass storage device?
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear List, Well, I found that copying files to FR is quite difficult with tftp/wget. Is there any way simple, like usb(mass storage device, just like a thumb drive) Or there might be something i missed, please redirect me to the correct page. Thanks. I use sftp://r...@freerunnerip in the file manager location box of my ubuntu (gnome - should work on the KDE file browser also) after setting up usb networking very easy to copy files to and fro from the freerunner Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to use FR as a mass storage device?
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 09:26 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Dear List, Well, I found that copying files to FR is quite difficult with tftp/wget. Is there any way simple, like usb(mass storage device, just like a thumb drive) Or there might be something i missed, please redirect me to the correct page. Thanks. I use sftp://r...@freerunnerip in the file manager location box of my ubuntu (gnome - should work on the KDE file browser also) after setting up usb networking very easy to copy files to and fro from the freerunner Excellent! Saved my day :) 92KB/sec (USB mode) Rakshat -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 22:18 +0200, Hans Zimmerman wrote: My update sequence showed some errors. Actions executed: opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli opkg update opkg upgrade opkg install frameworkd paroli - paroli did not install because of conflict with the file /usr/share/elementary/themes/default.edj with elementary-themes opkg remove elementary-themes -recursive This was the wrong way to solve it. You should have done opkg install -force-overwrite paroli ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 00:49 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: On Суббота 09 мая 2009 17:36:55 Angus Ainslie wrote: New feature's in the FSO framework - Configurable ntp server - Automatic time setting ( requires GPS or network connection ) - Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries This dont works =( At least for me What didn't work ? Did you have a network connection ? Can you provide a log ? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009#Debugging_and_Bug_Reporting Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
