Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique
Yup Ditto, Just waiting for transparent qwo for OM2009... 2009/6/14 Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsenr...@sygehus.dk wrote: They call it qwo[1] and I think it rules. It takes many hours to get used to it, but I think it is definitely worth it. +1 After trying many keyboards, qwo rocks. I am yet to try dasher but I'm pretty sure that the minimal screen real estate that qwo requires will win out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com writes: 2009/6/14 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com writes: I do not advise you to fix the Freerunner yourself. Just purchase a buzz-fixed version. so it is possible to braze components by hand yes ? Would you say what components exactly are needed in C work ? If you can solder 0402, yes. For details see [1]. If you do not yet have GNU/Linux on your desktop computer, I recommend that you start now. Just buy it, don't have too high expectations on stability, and learn to love it. It is long time just debian based have been used on pc ,there is not problems and knowing linuxs . but important question , does FR catch owner time each day for any reason ?e.g for almost all activity with FR should users spend time each day ? No, if you don't upgrade software it stays the same and most users are able to find something that works stable enough. Do you mean om softwares ? I mean software you use on the phone. I wouldn't have paid extra for the pouch, but my Freerunner came with one and I use it. I keep it in my pocket, clipped to a belt loop. The pouch protects the screen from getting scratched up with the other So why dont you use invisible shield ?just trousers has packets ,How much are lenght and width sizes of FR ? Do you advice using invisble shield ,wont invisble shield make screen sensitivity to be decreased ? I use screen protection from day 1. It's a regular PDA screen protector, bought in a nearby cellphone shop. I don't think it decreases TS precision. With invisible-shield would FR place in trousers packets easily ? would you link that pda screen protector ?any picture ? I can't see how invisible-shield can affect placing device in pockets. To get a general idea of what is that, see [2]. Or go to the nearby cell phone shop, i hope they have some. 1. Buzz 2. #1024 recamping (there's software workaround) 3. Complete lack of bass with any wired headphones would you explain more about #1024 recamping problme ? [3] [1] http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf [2] http://www.zagg.com/company/application_instructions.php [3] https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024 -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:10 PM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: How much is Fr SAR ? In another thread on this list somebody mentioned that the specific absorption rate for the Freerunner is average, not significantly higher or lower than any other cell phone. Specifically, the Neo FreeRunner SAR tests at 1.07 W/kg GSM and 1.17 W/kg DCS. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td833107 I do not advise you to fix the Freerunner yourself. Just purchase a buzz-fixed version. Would you explain more ?why ? I did not know that the buzz-fixed version is more expensive. Still, I *strongly* suggest that you not attempt to solder the Freerunner yourself. The circuit is very small and you need special tools. An ordinary hand soldering iron will not work. Have you soldered cell-phones before? If not, I recommend not treating your Freerunner as a learning experience. Remember the old adage, experience is proportional to the amount of equipment destroyed. If you still want to do the buzz fix yourself, I think Paul's suggestion was excellent, try soldering an SMD (Surface Mount Device) onto an old video card first. It is long time just debian based have been used on pc ,there is not problems and knowing linuxs . Wonderful! You will feel at home on your Freerunner. but important question , does FR catch owner time each day for any reason ?e.g for almost all activity with FR should users spend time each day ? I am sorry. I don't understand your question. Are you asking if the Freerunner requires daily maintenance? If so, the answer is no. You can simply use the Freerunner as a phone, if you wish. The pouch protects the screen from getting scratched up So why dont you use invisible shield ? I did not have an InvisibleShield before. I have ordered one now and I may stop using the pouch. On the other hand, the InvisibleShield looks to be a sticker and it might peel off in my pocket. just trousers has packets ,How much are lenght and width sizes of FR ? The Freerunner is a bit thicker than the latest cellphones, but comfortably fits in my blue jeans (denim trousers) front pocket, even with the pouch. I've also carried the Freerunner easily in the breast pockets of my shirt and coat. Do you advice using invisble shield ,wont invisble shield make screen sensitivity to be decreased ? I've read, and believe, that sensitivity will be the same. The InvisibleShield is extremely thin (0.2mm). The Freerunner I purchased came with a clear plastic sheet covering the screen that was thicker than an InvisibleShield. The stylus worked fine through that sheet with no apparent loss of sensitivity. --Ben P.S. In America we are wishing you, and all Iranians, a happy outcome to your country's recent troubles. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net writes: The circuit is very small and you need special tools. An ordinary hand soldering iron will not work. Do I really have to try that to prove it's wrong? I think that after properly shaping the tip (as a flat screwdriver) 0402 can be easily desoldered (given that ordinary hand soldering iron is not too big). I have pics where i desoldered and soldered back the wire between capacitors with a ridiculously big old soldering iron. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images
houyu, if you merge from me, everything compiles correctly :) On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:08 PM, HouYu Likara...@gmail.com wrote: In addition. When I am doing compile, I got error complaining about missing src/3rdparty/gami/qnetwalk/pics/qnetwalk.png. I saw commit from Fale that delete the png file. There should be somewhere still containing qnetwalk.png. Trying fix it... On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:04 PM, HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am able to run qtmoko built from Franky's git repo on latest openmoko-fso-nox image and the uImage 2.6.28 r2 stable kernel. I will try Radek's new QT4.5.1 master tree later. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca wrote: On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 09:57 +0200, Radek Polak wrote: Just one question is open for me. I see that libmad is now build by default, but i am not sure if it is ok to distribute such images because of patent issues. That's why also why i distribute qmplayer without mplayer binary. So i can either remove libmad before i make new release (no problem for me) - or is there any better way how to handle this patent crap stuff? I say build it in (I don't think we can do mp3 ringtones easily without it... or does qmplayer take care of that too)? Worse case scenario Thompson or whichever jerk owns the patent sends a takedown notice and you go back to leaving it out. If you insist everything is 100% legal, http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ may be able to help us out. It may even count as legit legal advice. If you don't feel like talking to them, I can do it on your/qt* behalf. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] packages for canola media player
It looks really nice it does take a while (understatement) to load it isn't optimised for normal screen orientation, but it works and landscape is quite nice overall: I like it :) y On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:31 AM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: You can tell canola where to look for music, when you click on the lower right corner (settings) - media library - media folders - audio folders - select the folder which holds your music Yeah, that's the first place I looked. :P It just has Media Clips which I can check or uncheck. Nothing else I can do. Yeah, I just re-updated/upgraded and it found a new liblightmediascanner. :) Thanks, it works now! -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Perma-block a Number
Hey, I'm on SHR-Unstable and every now and then I get a call from 8664693328 and it's always a call bugging me about either my car warranty expiring or getting cheap health insurance. Now, I just bet there's a way to edit a YAML file or something to automatically block calls from that number before the phone starts ringing. Can anyone suggest a way? I don't mind dirty hacks, so long as it works. I'm tired of accidentally picking up these calls and getting charged for it. -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Perma-block a Number
On Sunday 14 June 2009 20:32:10 The Digital Pioneer wrote: Hey, I'm on SHR-Unstable and every now and then I get a call from 8664693328 and it's always a call bugging me about either my car warranty expiring or getting cheap health insurance. Now, I just bet there's a way to edit a YAML file or something to automatically block calls from that number before the phone starts ringing. Can anyone suggest a way? I don't mind dirty hacks, so long as it works. I'm tired of accidentally picking up these calls and getting charged for it. I could do it in ogsmd, but I right now I still believe blacklisting should rather be implemented in the dialer application. As a quickhack for your problem, you could do something like: --- a/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/calling.py +++ b/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/calling.py @@ -88,6 +88,8 @@ class CallHandler( object ): def ring( self ): for callId, info in self._calls.items(): +if info.get( peer, ).endswith( 8664693328 ): +continue ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Perma-block a Number
OK, is there any way to fake an incoming call to test this? :P I assume I patch the file and that's all, right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
Paul -- I use screen protection from day 1. It's a regular PDA screen protector, bought in a nearby cellphone shop. I don't think it decreases TS precision. Does a particular model of invisibleSHIELD fit FR or you had to cut an oversized one to shape? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 While it took a bit longer than I had originally expected, I'm now proud owner of a buzz-free Freerunner :D Congrats to Dr. Schaller for making this happen - and congrats for OM for supporting this. Let's all not forget that other phones have problems too. It is the open nature of this project that allows us to actually fix the shortcomings other people would have to live with. Regards, Andreas Fischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAko1W9kACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwF5uQCfQ1vkpBky6xOqGanKy9W2dB4T pLQAn3nFpZuBZ0bNO9nqImbQoqZRHXvR =6nIc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
Mikhail Umorin mike...@gmail.com writes: I use screen protection from day 1. It's a regular PDA screen protector, bought in a nearby cellphone shop. I don't think it decreases TS precision. Does a particular model of invisibleSHIELD fit FR or you had to cut an oversized one to shape? I think Zag has a special model that fits, but. I just bought a screen protector, cut it in two pieces (you may say i got 2 protectors for the price of one), then i disassembled my FR, cut the piece to cover the whole LCD (no real precision needed, as you can go with large + tolerance), assembled it again. Easy. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit internal GUI
I have used navit for a while now and today I have updated to svn-2314. It gets better and better, but I still have my problems with some parts of the internal GUI. When adding more bookmarks than the screen can display I have no option to scroll in the bookmark list. So more than a hand full of bookmarks are unusable. (If I am not missing any way to lookup the bookmarks) When displaying the route description a next and prev button is shown and this could be used for all list data. Thinking about bookmarks, why not adding a feature to the address book to start navit with the contact as destination? (Or correlate the data anyhow) Good point, if PIM could hold a value for coordinates it should not be too hard to implement this in any address book app. It's 2 dbus calls to get the navit instance and another to set destination [1] I did this with dbus-send after activating dbus interface of navit in navit.xml (centering works the same way as setting destination...): dbus-send --print-reply --session --dest=org.navit_project.navit /org/navit_project/navit org.navit_project.navit.iter dbus-send --print-reply --session --dest=org.navit_project.navit /org/navit_project/navit org.navit_project.navit.get_navit objpath:/org/navit_project/navit/main_iter/0 dbus-send --print-reply --session --dest=org.navit_project.navit /org/navit_project/navit/navit/0 org.navit_project.navit.navit.set_center string:geo:13.35 52.5 http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Dbus Cheers, Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Microphone busted after buzz-fix
Hello List, I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot). Any suggestions on how to diagnose it correctly? I already loaded the A7 state file (which works wonders on the other neo), tried different distros. Is there any kind of warranty (i know there's not an official one) from openmoko in case i need to ship it back to taiwan or something? Since I'm in Chile and no local distributor is available, I had to perform the fix unoficially. Thanks for the time Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
I would like to thank all the people involved in buzz fixing too! You made a very good point a lot of people are forgetting about that other phones are not without the problems. We just don't know about most of them because there is no strong community around them. With the openmoko community it was possible to found the problem and to fix it. I was proud to buy this phone when it was released and I'm still proud to have it! Leonti On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Andreas Cyberfrag Fischercyberf...@gmx.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 While it took a bit longer than I had originally expected, I'm now proud owner of a buzz-free Freerunner :D Congrats to Dr. Schaller for making this happen - and congrats for OM for supporting this. Let's all not forget that other phones have problems too. It is the open nature of this project that allows us to actually fix the shortcomings other people would have to live with. Regards, Andreas Fischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAko1W9kACgkQ5Fl7TYZQYwF5uQCfQ1vkpBky6xOqGanKy9W2dB4T pLQAn3nFpZuBZ0bNO9nqImbQoqZRHXvR =6nIc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Checking out OM kernel
Dear list, I am interested in preferably kernel version 2.6.30 or 2.6.26-rc8 for OpenMoko. Please help me with the steps to check it out because I not well versed with git. I tried with git checkout v2.6.26-rc8 but it does not have a defconfig for gta02. -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix
Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl writes: I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot). Give your friend schematics and the non-working phone and ask him to check circuits carefully. Most probably he left a short there that he will simply remove after finding it. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
