Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Michal Brzozowski > wrote: > > I found two problems so far. > > > > 1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is garbage > on > > the screen and it's unusable. > > Can you take a photo to show it? Sure, http://pv

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-16 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
I like a lot your idea of conversational sms, I found it very usefull when I was using a Blackberry, but I might suggest to reduce identation a half or more from your proposal to gains more text space and allow two or tree identations levels. 2009/6/17 Warren Baird : > Hey all, > > I've finally sp

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
oh, forgot, please add your mockup here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-themes -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailm

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Warren Baird wrote: > there seems to be a minimalist trend in the current Paroli design.    But > frankly, I didn't buy a device with a nice 640x480 display to have a > monochrome UI!!  ;-) I can feel your pain! http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/paroli-background-images

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Warren Baird wrote: > but I'm not sure if that's related to the problem I'm seeing.   Paroli > itself seems pretty good.  However, when I enable the paroli-illume theme, > illume doesn't start up.   So for the moment I can't get at any of the other > apps on the pho

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
> Hi all , > > Just flash to help testing :) > > I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :) Awesome! > I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to > scroll without clicking. Could you specify on what views (or all?) is this? > BTW, with testing release

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Warren Baird wrote: > Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now.  I look > forward to the improvements a lot. Nice, nice! Did you remember to remove ~/.e -directory? > One question - is the 'bind-home' approach documented somewhere?   Both > go

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:04:22PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > > 2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski > > > I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but > it's > > > working well for me so I'm announcing it. > > > > > I uploaded it on opkg.

Re: Avoid duplicates on ML

2009-06-16 Thread roguemoko
On 17/06/2009 3:49 PM, Evgeniy Karyakin wrote: >> To avoid getting duplicates (when a person sends a mail To or Cc you >> and the list at the same time) one just needs to set his personal >> preferences (and for most ML it's default to avoid duplicates), for >> mailman it's described in [1]. >> >>

Re: Avoid duplicates on ML (was: Re: Fundamental Qi question)

2009-06-16 Thread Evgeniy Karyakin
> To avoid getting duplicates (when a person sends a mail To or Cc you > and the list at the same time) one just needs to set his personal > preferences (and for most ML it's default to avoid duplicates), for > mailman it's described in [1]. > > [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-membe

Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-16 Thread Warren Baird
Hey all, I've finally spent some time (when I should have been sleeping) and put together a rather rough mockup showing a bit of how I'd like to see the Paroli UI looking. I'm not sure how great a reception this'll get, since I there seems to be a minimalist trend in the current Paroli design.

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-16 Thread Eldon Koyle
On Jun 11 20:20-0300, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Even in the hardware area, there's more than just low-risk > implementation projects. E.g., there should also be activities that > take on the risky bits and bring them under control. Such "pioneer" > efforts can then be integrated into the next "

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread jeremy jozwik
works nice michal, just installed it. i did not know it just runs as an application. i really like the vibration confirmation of a keypress. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:04:22PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > > 2009/6/16 Michal Br

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Warren Baird
Hmm.Well, my opkg update ; opkg upgrade was partially successful. It ended with this message: Configuring hal Cannot create link over existing -/var/log-. Cannot create link over existing -/etc/resolv.conf-. Reloading system message bus config: Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_

Re: [shr-unstable] packages for canola media player

2009-06-16 Thread undrwater
I still can't run from my device: canola Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/canola", line 293, in mc = MainController(ee, os.path.realpath(options.theme)) File "/usr/share/canola/plugins/canola-core.zip/canola-core/main/controller.py", line 263, in __init__ File "/usr/sh

yaouh and the osm NoName layer

2009-06-16 Thread Robin Paulson
hi, i've been using yaouh for getting updated tiles from osm for several months now; great little tool. there is an osm tile layer called 'NoName', which highlights streets and other items that have been drawn in but not named - very useful for tidying up the last bits of an area. the problem is,

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Michal Brzozowski > wrote: > > > > I found two problems so far. > > > > 1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is garbage > on > > the screen and it's unusable. > > Can you take a

Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.22

2009-06-16 Thread Warren Baird
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:12 AM, c_c wrote: > > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > > Also, you don't seem to save the directory that the user browses to when > > picking wallpapers... > > > Thats true. Do I still need to do that if I set the default to > /usr/share/wallpapers? > Maybe you could copy

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Warren Baird
Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now. I look forward to the improvements a lot. One question - is the 'bind-home' approach documented somewhere? Both google and searching on the wiki haven't helped me find info on how to set this up. I've actually got om2009 on my sd-

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:04:22PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > 2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski > > I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's > > working well for me so I'm announcing it. > > > I uploaded it on opkg.org. I fixed the layout a bit, and added support f

Re: Problem with package built with my OE environment

2009-06-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:27:22PM +0200, GNUtoo wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 08:19 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:19:07AM +0200, GNUtoo wrote: > > > > Then I decided to try fso-testing (argh, another two days compiling), > > > > and I > > > > was unpleasean

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > I found two problems so far. > > 1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is garbage on > the screen and it's unusable. Can you take a photo to show it? > 2. It's impossible to scroll in paroli, it's too sensitiv

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
It's a button that lets you show and hide the keyboard. 2009/6/16 jeremy jozwik > on opkg the package screen shots say "literki" on the top right. is that > just a watermark or part of the keyboard overlay? > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > >> What do you mean? >>

Re: FreeRunner A6 Sale

2009-06-16 Thread Steve Mosher
The deal for 10 FR makes this even more attractive Jason Self wrote: > I've been holding off on buying a FreeRunner until until it seemed > sufficiently problem-free to me. > > $250 is a very appealing price. I just wanted to confirm my > understanding that the only difference between A6 and A7

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread jeremy jozwik
on opkg the package screen shots say "literki" on the top right. is that just a watermark or part of the keyboard overlay? On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > What do you mean? > > 2009/6/16 jeremy jozwik > > nice, gona have to give this one a try. any way to get rid of t

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
What do you mean? 2009/6/16 jeremy jozwik > nice, gona have to give this one a try. any way to get rid of the name > overlay? > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > >> >> >> 2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's on

Re: Problem with package built with my OE environment

2009-06-16 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 08:19 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:19:07AM +0200, GNUtoo wrote: > > > Then I decided to try fso-testing (argh, another two days compiling), and > > > I > > > was unpleaseantly surprised to see the same error. > > > > > > What could I be

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/16 Angus Ainslie > Hi All, > > There have been some major show stoppers fixed in the last week. As > usual there are additional instructions here. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 > > I found two problems so far. 1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is ga

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread jeremy jozwik
nice, gona have to give this one a try. any way to get rid of the name overlay? On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > > > 2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski > >> Hi, >> >> I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's >> working well for me so I'm announ

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski > Hi, > > I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's > working well for me so I'm announcing it. > > I uploaded it on opkg.org. I fixed the layout a bit, and added support for xrandr (so it now rotates nicely and has a different layout for

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-16 Thread jeremy jozwik
flush screen would be a winner for me On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Steve Mosher wrote: > Tully have some very good ideas on how to change the 02 case and get rid > of some annoyances-- > bring the screen flush with the surface, reduce the parts count. And I > had a camera solution that > loo

FreeRunner A6 Sale

2009-06-16 Thread Jason Self
I've been holding off on buying a FreeRunner until until it seemed sufficiently problem-free to me. $250 is a very appealing price. I just wanted to confirm my understanding that the only difference between A6 and A7 is that a) the buzz fix is applied and b) it has a newer GSM firmware (which I ca

Re: BlackBerry to Openmoko

2009-06-16 Thread jeremy jozwik
i still carry mine in my backpack uncharged and without a sim card just in case my moko takes an epic poop. glad to say i have only had to power it up once in my 5 months of freerunnerness. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Tony Berth wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, wrote: > >> Hi all

Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi All, There have been some major show stoppers fixed in the last week. As usual there are additional instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement them. If you are interested

[qtmoko] I've saw the changelog about duplicate sms

2009-06-16 Thread Alexander Syring
Hi I want to use qtmoko but I saw that the massages are removed from the sim. But I want, that the messages stay on sim card. How do I do that? Best Regards Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.o

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-16 Thread Steve Mosher
Tully have some very good ideas on how to change the 02 case and get rid of some annoyances-- bring the screen flush with the surface, reduce the parts count. And I had a camera solution that looked promising. Write me if you decide to go down this path and I'll explain our ideas Fabian Schölze

Re: [QtEI]Moving from Qt Extended Improved to QtMoko

2009-06-16 Thread HouYu Li
hi, all. latest qtmoko snapbuild based on FSO for Freerunner: http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtmoko/snapbuild/20090615/ Information: http://trac.karadog.net/qtmoko/wiki/SnapBuilds On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Chris Samuel wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:04:51 pm HouYu Li wrote: > > >

Re: BlackBerry to Openmoko

2009-06-16 Thread Tony Berth
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, wrote: > Hi all... Have some questions... I've been following Openmoko for a > while now, Since the 1973 product... I heard Sean speak at the > OpenExpo and have a few ?'s. > > 1. Sean stated at the expo that he still carries a BlackBerry, and > that by June he

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread DJDAS
Al Johnson ha scritto: > On Tuesday 16 June 2009, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > >> >> True.. new ideas needed.. >> > > Block icon in one colour with a thin border in another colour. > > Capturing background color and filling the button with the inverse one? Bye! _

Re: BlackBerry to Openmoko

2009-06-16 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 14:06, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > 2009/6/16 Robin Paulson >> >> 2009/6/16 arne anka : >> >> (c) eMail - I have at least 2 accts pushed to my Blackberry >> > >> > don't know the current state, there are clients available, but inhowfar >> > the are really usable with the fr (

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:14, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > Hi, > > I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's > working well for me so I'm announcing it. > > http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk > > Assumptions: > - Ignore window managers and always stay on to

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 16 June 2009, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > >> - running on terminal it's dangerous to change the color of the keyb > >> to black.. Would it be possible to have the colour change icon in > >> another color than the rest or something

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/16 Risto H. Kurppa > - What's the square button in bottom left? > - what' the + bottom left? > ctrl and alt respectively :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: >> - running on terminal it's dangerous to change the color of the keyb >> to black.. Would it be possible to have the colour change icon in >> another color than the rest or something to ease this.. > > But then if the color change icon tur

Re: BlackBerry to Openmoko

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/16 Robin Paulson > 2009/6/16 arne anka : > >> (c) eMail - I have at least 2 accts pushed to my Blackberry > > > > don't know the current state, there are clients available, but inhowfar > > the are really usable with the fr (screen estate, navigation), i don't > > know. > > i use claws, un

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Christophe Badoit
Michal Brzozowski a écrit : > Hi, > > I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's > working well for me so I'm announcing it. *great* *work" ! I love it. Good job. Thanks. -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mai

Re: BlackBerry to Openmoko

2009-06-16 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/16 arne anka : >> (c) eMail - I have at least 2 accts pushed to my Blackberry > > don't know the current state, there are clients available, but inhowfar > the are really usable with the fr (screen estate, navigation), i don't > know. i use claws, under shr-unstable. it's also in om2009. it

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/16 Risto H. Kurppa > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Michal Brzozowski > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's > > working well for me so I'm announcing it. > > > > http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk > Oh, by the way,

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/16 Risto H. Kurppa > Some comments: > - Could you change the font of the letters, not it's serif, I'd maybe > prefer sans-serif (easier to read on screen) Currently I'm using a compiled in bitmap with all the letters on it (just ASCII + special keys). So first I'd need to implement norma

Re: BlackBerry to Openmoko

2009-06-16 Thread arne anka
> (a) Address Book (Not sure if I can convert to .cvs, but will try this > week) afaik, contacts management is not integrated. though, work is going on in fso to do so. there are some contacts/task/calendar suites available, osmo for instance. > (b) eBible program (Genesis to Revelation... KJ

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-16 Thread Fabian Schölzel
Werner Almesberger wrote: > But I think a case-making project that follows the same approach as > gta02-core, namely reconstructing and prototyping the existing > design with Free tools (and making some small changes) could be > rather useful for establishing the know-how that can later be used > f

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > Hi, > > I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's > working well for me so I'm announcing it. > > http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk Wow, indeed it works well! Took a screenshot: http://scap.linu

BlackBerry to Openmoko

2009-06-16 Thread disciple
Hi all... Have some questions... I've been following Openmoko for a while now, Since the 1973 product... I heard Sean speak at the OpenExpo and have a few ?'s. 1. Sean stated at the expo that he still carries a BlackBerry, and that by June he expects that the OpenMoko will no longer lose in

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:14:08PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: > - Show/hide with AUX Not sure if it's good... too many applications are abusing the lack of buttons. > - Support screen rotating (involves making a separate layout for horizontal > screen) > - Support dictionary and prediction (

Re: How to get started with Openmoko phone?

2009-06-16 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Robin Paulson wrote: > you might have to push it to find the real truth - there may even be a > law requiring number portability, in which case they can't refuse In .eu, or at the least in .nl, the telco is obliged to give you the option to transfer your old numbe

new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Hi, I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's working well for me so I'm announcing it. http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk Assumptions: - Ignore window managers and always stay on top. - Turn on transparency if it's covering something you're typing. If

Re: Howto get a specific kernel from kernel repository?

2009-06-16 Thread Shaz
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote: > Shaz wrote: >> >> Dear lists, >> >> I want kernel 2.6.26-rc8 or 2.6.30 onwards for my development work on >> OpenMoko. If it cannot be checked out then is there some way that I >> can move around with patches to get there? >> >> Some help

Re: How to get started with Openmoko phone?

2009-06-16 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/16 Mikhail Umorin : >> > cheapest, with 3G card). Both worked fine. To keep an old cell number one >> > has to sign up for a contract. >> >> i'm fairly sure that is marketing BS.  afaik, there is nothing required >> to keep an old number. >> > > Well, when the salesperson tells you that they

Re: How to get started with Openmoko phone?

2009-06-16 Thread Ben Wong
> Well, when the salesperson tells you that they will not transfer the phone > number unless you sign up for a contract there's not much you can do... At > least, that's what I got. Which carrier told you that? I just transferred my number and didn't have to sign up for a contract with T-mobile.

Re: Howto get a specific kernel from kernel repository?

2009-06-16 Thread Shaz
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Paul Fertser wrote: > Belisko Marek writes: >>> I want kernel 2.6.26-rc8 or 2.6.30 onwards for my development work on >>> OpenMoko. If it cannot be checked out then is there some way that I >>> can move around with patches to get there? >> Just read : http://linux.

Re: Howto get a specific kernel from kernel repository?

2009-06-16 Thread Paul Fertser
Belisko Marek writes: >> I want kernel 2.6.26-rc8 or 2.6.30 onwards for my development work on >> OpenMoko. If it cannot be checked out then is there some way that I >> can move around with patches to get there? > Just read : http://linux.yyz.us/git-howto.html > for your purpose: git checkout -b t

Re: Problem with package built with my OE environment

2009-06-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:19:07AM +0200, GNUtoo wrote: > > Then I decided to try fso-testing (argh, another two days compiling), and I > > was unpleaseantly surprised to see the same error. > > > > What could I be doing wrong? Any suggestions? > > > > Rui > hi, > you seem wanting to install the

Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia

2009-06-16 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/16 NeilBrown : > > You can send it to sdgsystems.com. > You first purchase the "freerunner audio quality enhancement" on the > website.  This costs $0 plus postage. > Their postage price is around $AU100 sent by international > courier.  If you ask, they will sent it be USPS and credit you >