Re: Anyone know a store that sells FreeRunner accs in the US
If somebody wants to start a Wiki page and vote on accessories that you all want to buy, I was always wondering, why openmoko dont ship an adapter like this[1], instead of the big (hard to carry) cable. I would like to see an adapter a bit longer, and have a flexible part in it, like 1 cm long. That way it wouldnt stress the freerunner connection inside of Freerunner. What I would really *love* to have is an adapter, with two output, one for the charging, and one for plugging usb device in it (3g dongle, pendrive, printer, etc, etc)[2]. The wiki page it lists as Y-cable[3]. But in a size, that I could carry it in my coin purse. [1]: http://www.molnarfoto.hu/images/resize_23570.jpg [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Male_and_Female_USB_Connectors.jpg [3]: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables#How_to_make_a_USB_cable_for_powering_attached_USB_devices_and_charging_the_Neo_while_in_host_mode_.28aka_Y-Cable.29 Best regards, Laszlo ps: I would also like to hear any news about your new company Sean. Just how things are going, are stumped somewhere, etc, etc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
Mostly yes - uglyness in x11-16 is introduced by disabled smooth-scalling. My themes are available in SHR repo - elementary-theme-sixteen and e-wm-theme-illume-sixteen :) I've just installed them, but illume segfaults when I try to select themes Latest SHR unstable same here Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
$ opkg upgrade * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for frameworkd-config-shr-dev: * frameworkd-config-shr (= 0.8.5.1+gitr1473+130fb4c50f81b803d42b32c69f20e0713930f741-82+060495f1ddcf6db79c1cd9d12e51b47adac8e2ed-r6) * there's no frameworkd-config-shr package of any revision in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ - is this a mistake in the dependencies, or a missing package? i ran into the same thing... does your phone work? I get No service... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
just ignore it, force it, or play hop skotch. i ignored this for about a month before forcing it. Petr Vanek wrote: $ opkg upgrade * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for frameworkd-config-shr-dev: * frameworkd-config-shr (= 0.8.5.1+gitr1473+130fb4c50f81b803d42b32c69f20e0713930f741-82+060495f1ddcf6db79c1cd9d12e51b47adac8e2ed-r6) * there's no frameworkd-config-shr package of any revision in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ - is this a mistake in the dependencies, or a missing package? i ran into the same thing... does your phone work? I get No service... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
2009/7/5 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz: there's no frameworkd-config-shr package of any revision in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ - is this a mistake in the dependencies, or a missing package? i ran into the same thing... does your phone work? I get No service... yep. so far all is good ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wpa-exiting with code 1 ???
ok... at the end i started shr in verbose mode, and i get /etc/udhcpd.conf missing, and i guess this is a problem... can some of you post his config file? thanks d On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote: On Thursday 25 June 2009, Fox Mulder wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 25 June 2009, Fox Mulder wrote: One big problem with wlan still exists. When i ping my server the time fluctuates from ~15ms to ~4000ms and i got additional packet loss. I can see this effect for example when i ssh into my freerunner or download anything from it. So something still must be wrong but i don't know what. My Wlan AP is working right which i verified with a second pc connected through wlan. Anybody else experience such odd wlan behaviour? There were reports that some APs don't play nicely with the power saving enabled on the wifi chip. You could see if it's any more reliable with: iwconfig eth0 power off or wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf Wow you were right with the first guess. After i did wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf my average Ping goes from 583.394ms with packet loss to 13.462ms with no packet loss. :) Now i just have to find the right location where i could execute the command. Do i have to execute it every time i enable wlan or just once after booting? Probably every time since the recent kernel seems to shut the chip down on ifdown (more or less) and reinitialise on ifup. Unless I've completely misunderstood the bug report for wifi only working once... As to where to do it, it probably depends on how you manage your network connections. The traditional debian way is to specify it as a post-up command in /etc/network/interfaces. WiCD, NetworkManager, connman or whatever will presumably have their own equivalent. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko]QtWebKit
Hello, The webbrowser in the distro is very slow, and crashes after viewing 1 page. I wonder if it is the QtWebKit from http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/QtWebKit If not, did anybody try that on openmoko? regards mobiphil -- being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gui alternative
Hello, Did anybody try http://home.comcast.net/~fbui/ or http://www.directfb.org/ on openmoko? what about integrating the mplayer hack (2d acceleration) into directfb rgrds mobi phil -- being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-unstable]
Am Sonntag 05 Juli 2009 00:39:27 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/7/5 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de: Running $ find /usr -name libelementary.so* gives nothing. it'll be there, but called something else. the shr team change the name every so often, by adding a string of letters to the name of all the e libraries. it's probably something like: no, NOT so. It is NOT the SHR team and you know that. It is enlightenment upstream that changes libnames with every freeze they do right now. That will change when they release something stable. And yes, we could work around that. Though we do not have the proper manpower to do that :( well, that's only half the story, isn't it? shr team chooses which packages to include, so yes they are responsible for what they produce. yep, we're responsible for deciding to bump the revision of E we use. as raster's pointed out, these releases aren't for public consumption but for testing only. you could very easily stick to the blessed releases, and not break every shr install out there on every update. quoting raster: Eina, Evas, Ecore, Embryo, Edje, E_Dbus, Efreet and Enlightenment have had a snapshot release (snapshot 061), Elementary 0.5.0, and can be downloaded from http://download.enlightenment.org/snapshots/2009-06-14 . If you are taking source from SVN - http://svn.enlightenment.org, then use SVN revision 41040. We're taking E source from SVN - so we did what he recommended and upgraded E to 41040. or, if you need help doing something, and don't have the manpower - ask. i'm sure there are many willing volunteers who would work on fixing this. it's really frigging annoying. believe me - it frigging annoys me too. Just the way you phrased your mail it sounded like it is SHR deliberately deciding to rename libraries. Which is not true. The real problem might just be that SHR has no stable release yet. Because in the end we're talking about SHR *unstable*. And we have to bump the enlightenment version we use from time to time to get fixes and enhancments, don't you agree? So, this time we took care to rebuild all packages that needed rebuilding. This fixes the packages which are in our feed only though. Problems come from packages you install from other sources. What could we do about that? Yes, we could add some compatability lib package that adds symlinks from for example libevas-ver-svn-02.so.0 to libevas.so.0. Raster would hate us for that btw. because this could theoretically lead to bogus bugreports from programs linked against an older lib but running with the newer one. The ABI in enlightenment world is *not stable* yet. Don't know how probable that would be though... I would propose two things: a) bug us to get all those packages you want into the SHR feed. This gives us the possibility to cleanly rebuild them whenever needed (and spank us if we fail to do so :) b) find a volunteer to do a script adding those links or even a package. We certainly could ping that volunteer *before* doing such an upgrade - to give him/her time to do that script What do you think? -- Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
I get no service neither. ... Should I install something ? 2009/7/5 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com 2009/7/5 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz: there's no frameworkd-config-shr package of any revision in http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ - is this a mistake in the dependencies, or a missing package? i ran into the same thing... does your phone work? I get No service... yep. so far all is good ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [omgps] collect feature requests
Let me explain my build environment. HOST env: debian chroot on top of ubuntu 1. build with openmoko unstable toolchian (from openmoko download site) om-conf omgps make clean make om-make-ipkg omgps With this approach, take care to run om-conf again once Makefile.am is modified. 2. build with bitbake (SHR), see omgps_svn.bb about comment #1: I have no idea how to test Python version installed in tool chain, so have to hard code the version as 2.6. What about try 2.4 or something else? about comment #2: which description? would you please clarify? 2009/7/5 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen (via Nabble) ml-user+167888-1251911...@n2.nabble.com: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 05:29:22PM -0700, mqy wrote: Please feel free to comment or add new feature requests here. Two comments on the package control file: 1) The dependency on python2.6 is missing. 2) The description is still the default one. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list commun...@... http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community View message @ http://n2.nabble.com/-omgps--collect-feature-requests-tp3178254p3207160.html To unsubscribe from [omgps] collect feature requests, click here. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-omgps--collect-feature-requests-tp3178254p3208174.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [omgps] collect feature requests
Hi Laszlo, Thanks for all the hard work you've been putting in. I have two questions: 1) If the filesystem is crashing, doesn't it seem like we should fix the filesystem instead of making a new file format? 2) You mentioned that fsck takes an hour for you. I'm having trouble reproducing that. It always takes less than a minute for me. Here is what I'm doing, let me know if I'm testing it incorrectly: a) tangogps find /media/mmcblk0p5/Maps | wc -l b) Download maps (+4 levels) in tangogps (just to further stress it) c) While that is running, I remove all power sources, causing a crash d) At reboot, the filesystem is automatically recovered (I'm using ext3 journaling) e) I force a fsck and check how long it takes, like so: umount /media/mmcblk0p5 time e2fsck -f /dev/mmcblk0p5 For me, it's always 42 seconds. --Ben P.S. Did you try that clock speed suggestion from BillK? On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Noone experienced whole filesystem crash because of *that* many open file descriptors? It would be really strange. ITs really simple to test it: While using tangogps/omgps remove the battery. Almost 90% percent and the whole filesystem crashes (the tiles are no more availables) You can test it, with: find /home/root/Maps -name *.png |wc -l I bet it will hang. So I request the following feature: Instead of having 75000 file for 118MB, compress the tiles into reasonable 1MB files. So 118 files in total in place of 75000 files. Anyone agree? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External GPS antenna question
and if you are carrying the FR in a pocket, yes it gets a lock most of the time, but the track wobbles all over the place - up to a hundred meters. And if driving through an urban canyon, similar track errors can occur. Ive wanted a small external powered antenna for some time to improve this. I've noticed the same wobbles, but only when I'm not moving very quickly. Does anybody know if setting the GPS to Pedestrian instead of Car mode helps? Or is an antenna the only solution? --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone know a store that sells FreeRunner accs in the US
I have redone it several times, but no luck. I also hoped, that it will disappear, after couple of day. But didnt happened either. I also used up all the spray (all the 20ml spray;-) To have a clue how it looks like, here is a picture: http://khiraly.googlepages.com/IMG_3882.JPG Yikes! Is that lint stuck under the shield? --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 09:24, Petr Vanekvan...@penguin.cz wrote: Mostly yes - uglyness in x11-16 is introduced by disabled smooth-scalling. My themes are available in SHR repo - elementary-theme-sixteen and e-wm-theme-illume-sixteen :) I've just installed them, but illume segfaults when I try to select themes Latest SHR unstable same here Petr Well, that's not problem with my theme :P But to change theme AFAIR you have to change engine to x11. Change engine, change theme and change engine back to x11-16. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why is it so slow ?
O Domingo, 5 de Xullo de 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak escribiu: Well, that's not problem with my theme :P But to change theme AFAIR you have to change engine to x11. Change engine, change theme and change engine back to x11-16. Great! It looks nice, and it scrolls nice +1 for default inclusion in SHR :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Rustling noise on phonecalls
Hi everyone, Lately my Buzz-fixed Freerunner began to make a rustling noise during phonecalls. I cannot hear it on my side but I constantly get complains from the persons on the other end. Some test calls here confirmed that the noise is really here and its really loud too. It is not the well known buzz. It sounds more like if a small animal were sitting in the mic and moving around during the phonecalls. Or if I would constantly rustle with a peace of paper against the mic. I have already opened it and checked if the buzz fix is there how it should be but everything seems to be ok. I've also cleaned out the dust from the mic hole but the rustling is still here... Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. It could also be that the GSM firmware upgrade to moko-11 somehow triggered this behaviour as I've upgraded it about 2 weeks before the complains started. This happens now with SHR as well as with om2009-testing5. I am using the gsmhandset.state file suggested by Jörg. Anyone has an idea what could be the cause of this. In this current state my freerunner is absolutely useless as a phone. Thank you all, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
the very same behaviour, i was thinking about writing a mail... i cannot use fr as a phone mainly because of this. d On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.netwrote: Hi everyone, Lately my Buzz-fixed Freerunner began to make a rustling noise during phonecalls. I cannot hear it on my side but I constantly get complains from the persons on the other end. Some test calls here confirmed that the noise is really here and its really loud too. It is not the well known buzz. It sounds more like if a small animal were sitting in the mic and moving around during the phonecalls. Or if I would constantly rustle with a peace of paper against the mic. I have already opened it and checked if the buzz fix is there how it should be but everything seems to be ok. I've also cleaned out the dust from the mic hole but the rustling is still here... Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. It could also be that the GSM firmware upgrade to moko-11 somehow triggered this behaviour as I've upgraded it about 2 weeks before the complains started. This happens now with SHR as well as with om2009-testing5. I am using the gsmhandset.state file suggested by Jörg. Anyone has an idea what could be the cause of this. In this current state my freerunner is absolutely useless as a phone. Thank you all, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 12:05 +0200, kimaidou wrote: I get no service neither. ... Should I install something ? I ran a `opkg upgrade -force-depends` and everything seems to be working ok on my end. Toaster signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2009 t5] Some issues ideas
Hi, I've just upgraded my recently buzz-fixed Freerunner from Om2008 to testing release 5 and so far, things look quite good. There's a couple of minor issues I'm currently experiencing, though: * I can log into home WLAN through Paroli's Wifi GUI and also ping my router, but I can't reach any IP address on the internet. * After an opkg upgrade (I think), paroli displays loading forever, and then complains about a GSM timeout (and subsequently fails to load a couple of other modules). This is currently my most critical problem as it keeps me from using the FR as a phone... (Was the upgrade a bad idea because it threw from testing to unstable?) * I can set the time through paroli, but not the date. * I'm not sure if it's just because I failed to install any extra modules, but at first boot, I was asked to select a language from an empty box. Are there any German l10n files/keyboard layouts, preferrably opkg'ed? * Docs: I've noticed the some docs on the wiki are rather outdated or at least a bit confusing -- sometimes I just miss an explicit note saying to what distro instructions apply. The same holds for some of the software: although there are those tested on templates, they are sometimes just blank. For example, I installed PISI for importing my evolution contacts via a vcf file into paroli, only to find out that PISI doesn't support paroli's contacts file format. Maybe this is because opkg.org is being taking over the role of providing (up-to-date) package descriptions? If so, I'd recommend moving any valid information from wiki.openmoko.org over to opkg. Also, the USB networking page should rather start with the easy part (OS or Distro Specific Automatic Configuration) and list the more manual configuration only later on. If there aren't any objections, I might try to work on that. * I think proper syncing is badly needed. I'm not sure if there are any standards for this, but ideally, when connecting the FR to my Ubuntu system (via USB, Bluetooth or whatever), I'd like to be asked if I want to sync my FR contacts and/or calendar entries with Evolution. (If there are any standards, it would be cool if the same approach would cause the same for Windows or MacOS.) Also, providing GPS/GPRS/Wifi/... functionality to the host system would be great. * navit: It's good that it starts libgps automatically (as opposed to older OM200x), but I find the libgps16/17 issue unacceptable. And http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/343 is just not satisfying. As for me, I'm the casual Joe Hacker guy with some C++ experience, so if there are any easy fixes (eg for the set date thing mentioned above) and some guidance, I can try to help out a bit; same for translating. Bernhard Reiter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
my wife complains i sound like crap on the line. everything sounds fine from my freerunner On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Davide Scainidsca...@gmail.com wrote: the very same behaviour, i was thinking about writing a mail... i cannot use fr as a phone mainly because of this. d On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: Hi everyone, Lately my Buzz-fixed Freerunner began to make a rustling noise during phonecalls. I cannot hear it on my side but I constantly get complains from the persons on the other end. Some test calls here confirmed that the noise is really here and its really loud too. It is not the well known buzz. It sounds more like if a small animal were sitting in the mic and moving around during the phonecalls. Or if I would constantly rustle with a peace of paper against the mic. I have already opened it and checked if the buzz fix is there how it should be but everything seems to be ok. I've also cleaned out the dust from the mic hole but the rustling is still here... Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. It could also be that the GSM firmware upgrade to moko-11 somehow triggered this behaviour as I've upgraded it about 2 weeks before the complains started. This happens now with SHR as well as with om2009-testing5. I am using the gsmhandset.state file suggested by Jörg. Anyone has an idea what could be the cause of this. In this current state my freerunner is absolutely useless as a phone. Thank you all, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External GPS antenna question
On Saturday 04 July 2009, Paul Fertser wrote: Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: On Saturday 04 July 2009, Paul Fertser wrote: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com writes: On 7/4/09, Hammer Armin aham...@datazug.ch wrote: With the internal gps antenna, the first fix last quite long - with the external - within 5min to 10min I get a fix. WTF? I'm getting fix easly with *internal* GPS antenna in 30 seconds - 2 minutes... Because you already have almanac (and sometimes ephemeris) data. With a good sky view and suitable constellation TTFF from cold is ~40s with the internal antenna, rootfs on SD and an early A05 without the capacitor on SD. For it to take 2min I need heavy urban canyoning, being indoors or in a vehicle, or an unusually poor constellation. Let me cite the site that looks to be authoritive enough [1]: [snip quote from link] 25 * 0.5 min = 12.5 min . I assume this gives a good estimate of TTFF If you already have almanac (which is the usual case as almanac is usually valid for months), you'll get a fix in a little more than 30 seconds (time required to receive ephemeris from visible sattelite). [1] http://gpsinformation.net/gpssignal.htm ~40s was a consistent lower limit from cold start TTFF tests made to test the kernel SD drive strength and idle clock. IIRC this closely matches the cold start TTFF specified for the Antaris 4. Consensus at the time was that the GPS was powered down for long enough between tests that there would be a true cold start since the version we use has no nonvolatile storage for almanac and ephemeris. Assistance (ie providing almanac and ephemeris) is supposed to reduce TTFF to 10-20s, still significantly longer then a warm start. If you want to repeat the tests yourself the script and method are in the archives. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
2009/7/5 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net: I am using the gsmhandset.state file suggested by Jörg. Anyone has an idea what could be the cause of this. In this current state my freerunner is absolutely useless as a phone. I believe the gsmhandset.state.new (the one) file is not good enough, even though it was toutet as such. The speaker and mic levels are too high, and apparently it may cause too high amplification of mic (ie. when mic2 is 3, mono sidetone is 7 and mono playback is 127 - all maxed out). I've lowered speaker volume to 115 and mono playback volume to 100, otherwise keeping everything intact. Try those. Using Debian. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
ok, it worked ! thanks 2009/7/5 Cameron Frazier frazier.came...@gmail.com On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 12:05 +0200, kimaidou wrote: I get no service neither. ... Should I install something ? I ran a `opkg upgrade -force-depends` and everything seems to be working ok on my end. Toaster ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
last question: is there a noise reduction already implemented on fr? (...there are several ways of doing that... combining two mics is the easiest...) d On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/5 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net: I am using the gsmhandset.state file suggested by Jörg. Anyone has an idea what could be the cause of this. In this current state my freerunner is absolutely useless as a phone. I believe the gsmhandset.state.new (the one) file is not good enough, even though it was toutet as such. The speaker and mic levels are too high, and apparently it may cause too high amplification of mic (ie. when mic2 is 3, mono sidetone is 7 and mono playback is 127 - all maxed out). I've lowered speaker volume to 115 and mono playback volume to 100, otherwise keeping everything intact. Try those. Using Debian. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
last question: is there a noise reduction already implemented on fr? there's an at command to do that, iirc the bug report the gsmhandset.state file is attached to does mention it. if i am wrong, search the archives for noise reduction, there has been a number of mentions. whether your distribution uses that, i can't say. fso had a stanza somewhere with the different combinations, but i never really understood, what's the difference between them. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone know a store that sells FreeRunner accs in the US
I second that leather case, it looks wonderful! On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.netwrote: I have redone it several times, but no luck. I also hoped, that it will disappear, after couple of day. But didnt happened either. I also used up all the spray (all the 20ml spray;-) To have a clue how it looks like, here is a picture: http://khiraly.googlepages.com/IMG_3882.JPG Yikes! Is that lint stuck under the shield? --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Michael Zanettimichael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. Yes, SHR-unstable is the culprit. I'm currently dual booting SHR-testing and SHR-unstable, and SHR-unstable is utterly unusable because people can't understand me. (Which I'm not complaining about, by the way. It is called unstable for a reason.) I'd bet that if you revert to SHR-testing, everything will be hunky-dory again. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
ok, thanks for the explanations, i hope that the diff is known. d On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.netwrote: On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Michael Zanettimichael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. Yes, SHR-unstable is the culprit. I'm currently dual booting SHR-testing and SHR-unstable, and SHR-unstable is utterly unusable because people can't understand me. (Which I'm not complaining about, by the way. It is called unstable for a reason.) I'd bet that if you revert to SHR-testing, everything will be hunky-dory again. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
Am Sonntag 05 Juli 2009 19:07:16 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: Hi. This has been happening for a while now, but it is still with me in latest SHR-U and I say it's time to be done with it. Intone is completely dysfunctional. At first, it was just giving me trouble because it would play one song, but as soon as it started the GUI would lock up entirely. The audio kept playing through to the end of the song, but then I had to kill intone. I hoped it was just some corruption in the database, so I rm -rf'd ~/.intone and tried to rebuild the database, but Intone simply crashes whenever I try to add my Music folder. The only unusual terminal output is a series of warnings about deprecated DBUS functions or something to that effect. I've noticed other apps give these warnings as well, but they all seem to work through it, so I don't know if that is the cause or not. Please help, Intone is my most-used app (aside from dialer, contacts, etc). I would really like to get it back. :\ I tried intone with latest shr-unstable. Seems to work. I added some ogg files to the playlist, played them and skipped between them... What intone version do you have installed? opkg list_installed | grep intone ? -- Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: linphone 3.1.0
2009/7/2 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Thursday 02 July 2009, Denis Shulyaka wrote: Hi! I'm trying to use linphone on Om2009 and can't get sound working properly. Which asound.conf and voip.state file should I use? I tried opnes from koolu.org but all I got was ringing sound, no voice in any direction. The ringing sound was from speaker, not earpiece. I haven't tried it on Om2009 yet. On FSO-ms5 I used the voip-handset.state that was already in FSO, and http://www.koolu.org/asound.conf Did you remember to switch the mixer state? This needs to be done manually because linphone isn't FSO-aware yet. If the ring came from the speaker then either voip-handset.state wasn't the active state or it has changed. IIRC linphone has play and record options that should let you check its audio settings independent of any problems you may be having with SIP. I'm planning to give OM2009 a try soon, so I may have some more ideas soon. Hi! I've just tested it with SHR-testing and it is still ringing from the speaker, not earpiece. I'm sure I remembered to run alsactl restore -f voip-handset.state. The voip-handset.state seems good to me. So what's it? Alsa bug or I broke something in hardware while implementing buzz-fix? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian][qtmoko] /dev filesystem
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 09:39:49AM +0200, Radek Polak wrote: i guess this is feature of udev - it creates device nodes depending on available device drivers. I dont know how much could be done to speed it up. Maybe devtmpfs [1] could be interesting. However this is pure debian problem. [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/330985/ Ah, welcome back, devfs. Quoting from the patch submission: Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman gre...@suse.de He fought long and hard[1][2][3] against devfs and eventually succeeded in having it removed from the kernel. I don't think I want to know what they did to him to have him accept to put dev(tmp)fs back in. But it is good news. [1] http://his.luky.org/ML/linux-kernel.2005/msg45135.html [2] http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2005-11/0146.html [3] http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/6/18/185 -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External GPS antenna question
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 09:17:25PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote:
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com writes:
On 7/4/09, Hammer Armin aham...@datazug.ch wrote:
With the internal gps antenna, the first fix last quite long -
with the external - within 5min to 10min I get a fix.
WTF? I'm getting fix easly with *internal* GPS antenna in 30 seconds -
2 minutes...
Because you already have almanac (and sometimes ephemeris) data.
Where would I have it from (that Hammer Armin doesn't)?
I ran the GPS-TTFF script below standing on my balcony. Times with * are
with the --coldstart option.
45* 38 57 48 48 44 44* 45* 52* 44*
And that's on Debian, which doesn't have the latest-and-greatest FSO
where saving and restoring almanac and ephemeris works. Back when I briefly
used OM 2008.8, I also got a fix in around 45 s. I tried with the Freerunner
lying in the window frame, and then it took 11 minutes to get a fix. My
Freerunner is revision A6 with date code 20080722.
#!/bin/sh
# GPS-TTFF - Find GPS time to first fix using all the important buzz-words
# such as D-bus, Gypsy, freedesktop.org and freesmartphone.org.
# Destinations and paths are listed in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/*.
# Interfaces are documented at URL:http://docs.freesmartphone.org/.
DBUSCALL_='dbus-send --print-reply=undocumented --system --type=method_call
--dest='
if [ --coldstart = $1 ]; then
rm -f /var/lib/freesmartphone/ogpsd.pickle
fi
# Crude way of stripping white-space from $() output.
GPSPOLICY=$(echo $(${DBUSCALL_}org.freesmartphone.ousaged
/org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.GetResourcePolicy
string:GPS))
${DBUSCALL_}org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy string:GPS string:enabled
START=$(date +%s)
# Where is the first return value from GetPosition documented?
while ${DBUSCALL_}org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy
org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position.GetPosition \
| head -n 1 | grep -q -v -F -e 'int32 15' -e 'int32 7'; do
sleep 1
done
FINISH=$(date +%s)
echo Time to first fix: $((${FINISH} - ${START})) s
${DBUSCALL_}org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy
org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position.GetPosition
${DBUSCALL_}org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy string:GPS string:${GPSPOLICY}
--
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Re: Image modules?
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 08:45:12PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 17:52 +0200, Glenn Moeller-Holst wrote: This is what I am not able to read anywhere: *I actually do not know if I already having modules installed? How do I test it? Look in /lib/modules/kernel-version, or unpack the modules file and check. You'll find you already have it. [snip] *Why is there a separate file called modules? Why not include it in the image? It _is_ included in the root image, as it lives in the root filesystem in /lib/modules. The thing is: if you decide to use that kernel but _not_ use that root filesystem (because you'd like to build your own, for example, or you just want to upgrade your kernel and _not_ your filesystem) you'll have to untar the corresponding modules into your own filesystem. Once you've extraced the modules into /lib/modules/version, do remember to run (as root) depmod -a version because not all distribution do so during startup. Supposed the rootfs is on an external card reader mounted on /mnt/flash, the depmod command becomes depmod -a -b /mnt/flash version For someone working on the kernel, modules are very useful because you can test your changes simply with rmmod module; modprobe module instead of rebooting. Some distribution (e.g. Fedora) ship a kernel image with only a few drivers and generate a customized initial ram disk with modules during kernel installation. So the same kernel build works across the supported systems without being bloated by unused drivers. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2009] Repositories
Hello dear list, i tried an opkg update opkg upgrade but the files in the package-lists don't seem to match the ones in the repository. I get an 404 for every package to download: Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/paroli-sounds_0.2.1+gitr107+3af9f956337445dc3772038ba1eeeb8a4e33f406-r24_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download paroli-sounds. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr107+3af9f956337445dc3772038ba1eeeb8a4e33f406-r24_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download paroli. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? I can ping the server, so what's wrong? Is there something wrong with my opkg-lists? Matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
I get no service neither. ... Should I install something ? I ran a `opkg upgrade -force-depends` and everything seems to be working ok on my end. not really for me, i had to revert back to my backed up system before the update. i will try to update again tonight... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
I just discovered a thing : I think the no service is not related to the update of this frameworkd thing. When I launch Shr Setttings after a reboot, I get a message openkitd not running, would you like to start it or something like this. So I click on the button start, and then after a while, I get the gsm network back. Hope it helps 2009/7/5 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz I get no service neither. ... Should I install something ? I ran a `opkg upgrade -force-depends` and everything seems to be working ok on my end. not really for me, i had to revert back to my backed up system before the update. i will try to update again tonight... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki
How do I make the keyboard replace the Illume keyboard in Paroli? I want the Literki keyboard to autopopup when I type sms and add contacts++ and not the Illume keyboard? How's the work going with using dictionary? What do I need to add in the layout.conf to get Norwegian characters, like æøå? -fredrik- On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:00 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.comwrote: some kind of visual feedback for when ctrl or alt is active for doing a ctrl+x in nano and such On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fmwrote: 2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm Hi, I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's working well for me so I'm announcing it. http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk I made some improvements that you suggested and fixed a few small bugs. The layouts are improved. The landscape layout is now almost fullscreen and has numbers and all terminal-frequent symbols on the front page. Typing in the terminal is now really easy and fast. Shift works per symbol now. Pressing shift twice turns on caps lock, so you can type more uppercase symbols. The next thing I plan to do (but not until 2 or 3 weeks from now) is to use normal fonts for display, so you can change the font and size to your liking and add national characters. Again, I'd like to hear more improvement ideas, as I'd like to make literki THE keyboard that everyone will use. If anyone is an expert on Xlib, I'd be grateful for any input on how to make it less sluggish when the transparency mask changes (shift, etc). And also from distribution maintainers on anything else I'd need to do to make it possible to integrate and add to the various distros. You can use the same url to download (same filename): http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.1-r0_armv4t.ipk Or download from opkg.org. Have fun! Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko]QtWebKit
it seems that Midori depends on gtk... the question was more for some qt based decoration :) On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 7:22 PM, xelapond xelap...@gmail.com wrote: Are you referring to Midori? On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 1:30 AM, mobi phil m...@mobiphil.com wrote: Hello, The webbrowser in the distro is very slow, and crashes after viewing 1 page. I wonder if it is the QtWebKit from http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/QtWebKit If not, did anybody try that on openmoko? regards mobiphil -- being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: your mail
Having already the tags marked [this tag] you can search for all the tagse, you can then order them, and easily search inside them, even if there are 2000, once you have identified the tag, you can search for topics linked with them... On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 22:45:54 schrieb mobi phil: A forum is probably better place than email lists if the email lists tend to cover huge amount of information. Having a forum, you can keep o bit more order in the knowledge base that is accumulating in the email list. Tags/labels would be probably even more powerful than the simple categories in a forum. They would make easier to search in the huge amount of discussions/shared information on the email list. By encouraging everybody to use in the Subject field, or inside the conversation tags/labels, it would be much easier to find information, even with search engines. I would suggest to extend the [topic] labels to sthg. like Subject: [kernel][usb][external gps] etc. or separated by , Subject [kernel, usb, external gps] For such, we would need a list of predefined tags. If everyone chooses his/her (do we actually have women [I know about Brenda :)] here?) own tags and occasionally has a typo in them, we will get perfect chaos. Now try to force people to look up a list of tags for possibly fitting ones. I think this whole tagging approach is nice from a technical/programmer's point of view, but as a user, I do not even want to think about having to tag each and every of my 2000 digital photos, not even talking about other files. [I'm sliding off topic, don't I? :)] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update
When I launch Shr Setttings after a reboot, I get a message openkitd not running, would you like to start it or something like this. So I click on the button start, and then after a while, I get the gsm network back. tried several times during the day... will see tomorrow... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
Am Sonntag 05 Juli 2009 20:47:03 schrieben Sie: Yeah, the one in the feed is ancient. (0.30) :( ok, current intone hit the shr-unstable feed. Please report if it does not work for you. @chandel: I have to apply the following patch to make it build in OE: diff -uri intone/src/db_sqlite.c intone.mok/src/db_sqlite.c --- intone/src/db_sqlite.c 2009-06-30 22:41:23.0 +0200 +++ intone.mok/src/db_sqlite.c 2009-07-05 23:10:01.0 +0200 @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ #include db_sqlite.h #include id3.h #include vorbis/codec.h -#include vorbisfile.h +#include vorbis/vorbisfile.h #include string.h int check_file_exists(char *path) diff -uri intone/src/Makefile.am intone.mok/src/Makefile.am --- intone/src/Makefile.am 2009-05-15 16:29:18.0 +0200 +++ intone.mok/src/Makefile.am 2009-07-05 23:54:20.0 +0200 @@ -31,6 +31,6 @@ intone_LDFLAGS = \ -Wl,--export-dynamic -intone_LDADD = $(INTONE_LIBS) +intone_LDADD = $(INTONE_LIBS) -lid3 EXTRA_DIST = $(glade_DATA) -- Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
I just realized all my replies are only going to Klaus, and not the list. If anyone is interested, this wasn't an intone problem after all. It appears the filesystem is corrupted on my card, and one of my music folders is a subdirectory of itself. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Repositories
On July 5, 2009 01:11:00 pm matthias wrote: Hello dear list, i tried an opkg update opkg upgrade but the files in the package-lists don't seem to match the ones in the repository. I get an 404 for every package to download: Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/paroli-sounds_0.2.1 +gitr107+3af9f956337445dc3772038ba1eeeb8a4e33f406-r24_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download paroli-sounds. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr10 7+3af9f956337445dc3772038ba1eeeb8a4e33f406-r24_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download paroli. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? I can ping the server, so what's wrong? Is there something wrong with my opkg-lists? Matthias There was an issue with the testing feeds for a short period of time. It should be fixed now. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
