Re: [all] ffalarms led color

2009-07-25 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:26 PM, William Kenworthybi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I installed, then edited the theme (edj file) for it to change colour and disable that braindead puzzle. BillK Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Intone binary (to test bluetooth headset issues)

2009-07-25 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I hate for you to waste precious GUI space on a problem that only one person seems to have. If I were you, I would make it a conffile option or something unobtrusive... I'm pretty certain it's a Bluez bug. It happens on my laptop too. I should probably submit a bug report... :P

Re: [all] opkg killed by navit install

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/25 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: i've been trying to install the latest navit (2398) from the navit repository, and am having the usual problems with opkg not being able to handle it. i've created a 128mb swap file, and turned off the x server, but no dice. never mind, opkg

Re: [all] opkg killed by navit install

2009-07-25 Thread David Ford
known issue with opkg. add more swap memory and file handles. Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/7/25 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: i've been trying to install the latest navit (2398) from the navit repository, and am having the usual problems with opkg not being able to handle it. i've

Re: [all] ffalarms led color

2009-07-25 Thread William Kenworthy
'opkg files ffalarms' will list everything BillK On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 23:13 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:26 PM, William Kenworthybi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I installed, then edited the theme (edj file) for it to change colour and disable that braindead puzzle.

Developing wxWidgets applications?

2009-07-25 Thread Lothar Behrens
Hi, a long time ago I was happy seeing the wxWidgets library on my neo. Now I have setup a development host for cross compiling my application that needs that library. Some of my important base libraries were built but I am missing wx-config to correctly build the wxWidgets based stuff.

Dfu-util

2009-07-25 Thread jumper dev
hi, I have a strange problem using the dfu-util.. when I use dfu-util - l and OM is NOT connected I get : Found Runtime: [0x413c:0x8126] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=3, alt=0, name=UNDEFINED how can it find a device connected when I have none? thanks. ___

Re: [fso] no bluetooth

2009-07-25 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.ListResources /org/freesmartphone/Usage: ListResources - dbus.Array([dbus.String(u'CPU'), dbus.String(u'TEST'), dbus.String(u'Display'), dbus.String(u'GSM'), dbus.String(u'GPS')],

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 24 July 2009 23:40:14 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I actually tried Zhone the other day (when Paroli or FSO failed to delete SMS's from the SIM) and was very pleased with it - I'd really like to see it developed further! I heard that multiple times now, I think the UI really has something

Re: This stupid phone is unbelievable COOL!!!! 8)

2009-07-25 Thread Marcel
Am Samstag, 25. Juli 2009 02:33:18 schrieb Brolin Empey: 2009/7/22 li...@kitepilot.com So I do: kitepi...@beechjet:~$ ssh -fCX r...@192.168.0.202 /usr/bin/midori And I have the browser running in my desktop monitor. Only *TRUE* geeks can appreciate that! ;-) That reminds me of

[Openwrt] how to ssh OM?

2009-07-25 Thread jumper dev
hi, how do I ssh OM using openwrt? when I used om08 I used this script for ssh and internet access but it doesnt work with openwrt.. #!/bin/sh sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 sudo /sbin/route add -host 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0 sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s

Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-25 Thread Gilles Casse
john wrote: [snip] ...look at new areas such as hackable wearable computing. Thus I am interested in seeing things get smaller and cheaper and more hackable and not getting more shiny! +1 Gilles ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:11, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote: [...] r - someone unhappy feeling that no-one is working on Paroli or bugfixing it.. I actually tried Zhone the other day (when Paroli or FSO failed to

Re: [Openwrt] how to ssh OM?

2009-07-25 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Saturday 25 July 2009 12:35:19 jumper dev wrote: hi, how do I ssh OM using openwrt? when I used om08 I used this script for ssh and internet access but it doesnt work with openwrt.. #!/bin/sh sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 sudo /sbin/route add -host 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi, this has been discussed a couple of times on this mailing list already. You will find the details in the archive here [1]. But to sum it up: We are focusing on quality of data, and not only quantity, because we believe otherwise we will have a big database of useless data. We are

[openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi everyone, Nick did a very nice work about the visualisation interface of the cells on the website [1]. You can now browse and zoom to an area, and see (depending on the level of zoom), LACs and cells. When you select one item, you can click on it to see the coverage of the item. This is

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: You can now browse and zoom to an area, and see (depending on the level of zoom), LACs and cells. When you select one item, you can click on it to see the coverage of the item. Wow! This is very useful for planning cell id

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/25 Onen onen...@free.fr: Nick did a very nice work about the visualisation interface of the cells on the website [1]. You can now browse and zoom to an area, and see (depending on the level of zoom), LACs and cells. When you select one item, you can click on it to see the coverage of

Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?

2009-07-25 Thread arne anka
iirc there's a tool called ffalarm to handle exact that case. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.comwrote: is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing in tangogps and see

Re: [fso] no bluetooth

2009-07-25 Thread arne anka
nodes, which kernel version are you using? the default debian kernel (ie nothing home brewed), # uname -a Linux debian-gta02 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 #1 PREEMPT Tue Mar 3 20:22:28 UTC 2009 armv4tl GNU/Linux Can you check whether you see any bluetooth nodes in /sys/bus/platform/devices?

Re: Dfu-util

2009-07-25 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi, what is the problem? Then you have a device where uses this USB-technic as well in your computer. USB DFU means = Universal Serial Bus Device Firmware Upgrade. In Openmoko we use dfu-util to implant the server side on your host and the u-bootloader implants the device side - so we can flash

Re: Dfu-util

2009-07-25 Thread Nicolas Cavallari
jumper dev a écrit : hi, I have a strange problem using the dfu-util.. when I use dfu-util - l and OM is NOT connected I get : Found Runtime: [0x413c:0x8126] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=3, alt=0, name=UNDEFINED how can it find a device connected when I have none? thanks. the DFU

Re: Dfu-util

2009-07-25 Thread jumper dev
thanks.. I thought the dfu-util is used for openmoko only On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Nicolas Cavallari batch...@free.fr wrote: jumper dev a écrit : hi, I have a strange problem using the dfu-util.. when I use dfu-util - l and OM is NOT connected I get : Found Runtime:

Re: [Openwrt] how to ssh OM?

2009-07-25 Thread jumper dev
the problem is my router uses that address (192.168.1.1) .. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.netwrote: On Saturday 25 July 2009 12:35:19 jumper dev wrote: hi, how do I ssh OM using openwrt? when I used om08 I used this script for ssh and internet

Re: [CU] voting required

2009-07-25 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
V1 with table underneath left-hand picture md ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Openwrt] how to ssh OM?

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/26 jumper dev dev.jum...@gmail.com: the problem is my router uses that address (192.168.1.1) .. iirc there's info on the usb networking page of the wiki about changing the address of either your router or freerunner. both are fairly trivial

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Yorick Moko
nice work onen/nick! y On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.comwrote: is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the license is compatible? it would be great

[Openwrt] how do I update it ?

2009-07-25 Thread lists
Hello out there... Finally Openwrt seems to be doing the job a need, a working phone, a working messaging system and a working Xterm. I need to get the headset and the bluetooth working, which leads me to the question: How do I update Openwrt ? Is there a dpkg (or opkg) What's the normal

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/26 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells rendered on an alternative

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: [...] We just don't want to release crap as stable. There were problems with either FSO, SHR, build system etc. We wanted to start releasing testing images regular every week... week ago. But there is opkg

Re: [CU] voting required

2009-07-25 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Hello list, As i have finished layout for DistributionBox templates, please take a look at [1] to see how DistributionBox would look like, which you like most and post your votes here or on wiki discussion page.

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 17:21, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: [...] We just don't want to release crap as stable. There were problems with either FSO, SHR, build system etc. We wanted to start releasing

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: is there any work to get this data into the osm database? No. i assume the license is compatible? Yes. it would be great to get existing cells rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing in tangogps and see where the blank spots are, to know

Tangogps (gtk+-fastscaling ghost)

2009-07-25 Thread Glenn Moeller-Holst
Is gtk+-fastscaling actually necessary?: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install tangogps Installing tangogps (0.9.6-r2) to root... Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/0_tangogps_0.9.6-r2_armv4t.ipk Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangogps: *

Re: Tangogps (gtk+-fastscaling ghost)

2009-07-25 Thread Glenn Moeller-Holst
At 17:31 +0200 25/07/09, Glenn Moeller-Holst wrote: ... It is obsolete - is it not?: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/obsolete-images/repository/Om2007.2/armv4t/gtk+-fastscaling_2.10.14-r2_armv4t.ipk regards, Glenn Result: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install

Re: Tangogps (gtk+-fastscaling ghost)

2009-07-25 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 17:31, Glenn Moeller-Holstglenn.mh...@gmail.com wrote: Is gtk+-fastscaling actually necessary?: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install tangogps Installing tangogps (0.9.6-r2) to root... Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/0_tangogps_0.9.6-r2_armv4t.ipk Collected errors:  

Re: Tangogps (gtk+-fastscaling ghost)

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/26 Glenn Moeller-Holst glenn.mh...@gmail.com: Is gtk+-fastscaling actually necessary?: no, very obsolete. it's part of gtk now. you can use -force-depends and ignore it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Tangogps (gtk+-fastscaling ghost)

2009-07-25 Thread Glenn Moeller-Holst
At 17:42 +0200 25/07/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: ... No, it isn't. And using opkg.org repo isn't good idea, unless you want to break your system. Use more civilized distro, in SHR and Om2009 TangoGPS is in repos. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells rendered on an alternative tile set,

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/7/26 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells

Re: Tangogps (gtk+-fastscaling ghost)

2009-07-25 Thread Glenn Moeller-Holst
At 17:58 +0200 25/07/09, Glenn Moeller-Holst wrote: At 17:42 +0200 25/07/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: ... No, it isn't. And using opkg.org repo isn't good idea, unless you want to break your system. Use more civilized distro, in SHR and Om2009 TangoGPS is in repos. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak

Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?

2009-07-25 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Saturday 25 July 2009 08:06:48 am arne anka wrote: iirc there's a tool called ffalarm to handle exact that case. Only downsides to using ffalram for this first no reoccurring alarm support yet and second there is no way to add a note or any kind of message reminding you why the alarm is

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, If we could get all the average points for a network/country/region as KML, it wouldn't be too hard to convert them into tangogps POIs (although then you'd have alot of POIs). What would be the purpose of displaying the

Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-25 Thread Werner Almesberger
steven mosher wrote: 2. Build a Copyleft version of the Iphone from scratch. pass me 400Million and I'll get right on it! But you can't just build the iPhone, you have to build what apple will ship 18 months from now to be competitive. Heh, I'd do it for 40 ;-) But I think

Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml

2009-07-25 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 09:00:52AM +0200, Davide Scaini wrote: on Fr now... so i'll be short. i installed navit-dev and now it runs! i can see my actual position but unfortunately no map under. [i have downloaded the entire Italy from planet osm. i get no errors but no maps ... step by step

Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml

2009-07-25 Thread pike
Hi I'm having this same issue. Navit starts just fine. I start if from a terminal and there are no errors, but neither are there maps. I have the following line in my ~/.navit/navit.xml (startup messages show me it's using this file): mapset enabled=yes map type=binfile enabled=yes

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread mqy
Onen, glad to see openBmap gets better and better, congratulation :) best regards, mqy Onen wrote: Hi everyone, Nick did a very nice work about the visualisation interface of the cells on the website [1]. You can now browse and zoom to an area, and see (depending on the level of

[debian] literki does not run with debian

2009-07-25 Thread arne anka
what exactly takes it, to run literki? i installed it to debian (--force-depends because of libfakekeys version and --force-archiecture because of armel vs armv4t), corrected the path to the font used and started up, but ... for a moment two pink rectangles appear, on the lower one a keyboard

Re: [debian] literki does not run with debian

2009-07-25 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Well I think it's running alright. You know you need to slide up from bottom right corner to pop it up? The logo from earlier version is gone. 2009/7/25 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de what exactly takes it, to run literki? i installed it to debian (--force-depends because of libfakekeys

Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))

2009-07-25 Thread George Brooke
On Thursday 09 July 2009 12:40:08 Robin Paulson wrote: i'll agree with everything you've said. however, given the reality of the situation, i.e. the popularity of opkg.org with devs and users, coupled with the lack of knowledge around bb, i think this is a very useful service. i have no idea

Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))

2009-07-25 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 21:17, George Brookesolar.geo...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 09 July 2009 12:40:08 Robin Paulson wrote: i'll agree with everything you've said. however, given the reality of the situation, i.e. the popularity of opkg.org with devs and users, coupled with the lack

Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))

2009-07-25 Thread Yorick Moko
I agree (I'm in favor of bb) but opkg.org is also very usefull, as a showroom for apps On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 21:17, George Brookesolar.geo...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 09 July 2009 12:40:08 Robin

Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-25 Thread pike
Hi With virtually every movie that depicts an even slightly futuristic world showing video telephony, it's no surprise that some people do start to believe that this will be part of the future ... With that in mind, we could ask ourselves what are the roads not taken in the guided

Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-25 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/25 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl Ofcourse, you cant expect people to jump into a conference call every moment. But if you could 'add' a person during a call, that would help. It would be possible if only one of the connected devices could do that. just dreaming.. Not really, with voip

Re: [fso] no bluetooth

2009-07-25 Thread arne anka
some recherche indicated, that in /etc/frameworkd.conf odeviced.powercontrol_* is related. after setting [odeviced.powercontrol_ibm] disable = 1 [odeviced.powercontrol_neo] disable = 0 bluetooth appears in ListResources. - why is bluetooth affected by this but not gsm or display? - why is the

applied sci-fi (was Re: New Open Hardware company)

2009-07-25 Thread Werner Almesberger
[ Changed the subject, for we've veered off-topic. ] pike wrote: So, what did science fiction *miss* ? Actually, very little :) One thing that could make voice telecommunication a lot more attractive would be an avatar who listens and understands. Voice mail makes many people uncomfortable

Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-25 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 03:13:20PM -0400, Warren Baird wrote: There seems to be a repeated theme of people posting how crappy the Freerunner is and how nothing works for them. Usually a number of people then jump on the thread and talk about how the FR works well for them. I like to try

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:40:14AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Mirko Lindnervegyra...@paroli-project.org wrote: Less man power is the right way of putting it. There still is development on both projects but less than before. Laszlo is doing a great job

Re: applied sci-fi (was Re: New Open Hardware company)

2009-07-25 Thread pike
Hi Okay, that's a far-out idea. Something closer to home: if you don't need video telephony, you don't need rapidly updating color images. So, put e-paper into those phones. Maybe even the well-established grayscale type. It probably still updates quickly enough that you could even doodle on

Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml

2009-07-25 Thread Davide Scaini
what the frak you were [you are] right! i just disabled this default mapset and now 'it works' ... just try to increase our statistics. !-- If you dont want to use the sample map, either set enabled=no in the next line or remove the xml file from the maps directory -- mapset

Re: applied sci-fi (was Re: New Open Hardware company)

2009-07-25 Thread Werner Almesberger
pike wrote: strange, i've never seen it in day-to-day usage. can't do it on my phone afaik ? It's certainly one of the more obscure features :) You should be able to use it by making the first call, then call the next party and join the calls, and so on. Not sure if any of the Openmoko distros

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/26 Onen onen...@free.fr: hmm, that sounds slow and clumsy imo; i'd far rather have the tiles. as the license is compatible, i might look at importing it myself. i think there's a tag in osm, but i can always create one if there isn't What do you mean by having the tiles? Instead of

Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/26 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: Only downsides to using ffalram for this first no reoccurring alarm support yet and second there is no way to add a note or any kind of message reminding you why the alarm is going off leaving the user having to remember why they set the alarm, don't

Re: [debian] literki does not run with debian

2009-07-25 Thread arne anka
Well I think it's running alright. You know you need to slide up from bottom right corner to pop it up? no, i didn't -- but, indeed, there it is :-) nice app! but that sliding heavily clashes with my way to use the fr -- is there a possibility to alternatively toggle it by some command?

Re: [Openwrt] how do I update it ?

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/26 li...@kitepilot.com: Finally Openwrt seems to be doing the job a need, a working phone, a working messaging system and a working Xterm. I need to get the headset and the bluetooth working, which leads me to the question: How do I update Openwrt ? Is there a dpkg (or opkg)