Re: List of bluetooth headsets

2009-08-02 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 01 August 2009, fredrik normann wrote: Does headset with jackout exist as well, would be cool to have a jack out on the headset for connecting to a HiFi Stereo... :) Jabra BT3030, and at least one Motorola model. Both are small units with built in mic and 3.5mm headphone socket,

Re: [fso] rules for bluetooth headset: BTHeadsetIsConnected() is always true

2009-08-02 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 01 August 2009, arne anka wrote: the rules listed for bt headsets http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Once_Again.2C_Blue tooth_Headset_on_Freerunner use a filter BTHeadsetIsConnected() which seems to me quite unreliable. where does fso get its ideas from

some troubles with DIY buzz fix.

2009-08-02 Thread Gennady Kupava
Hello, list. My heart is always strongly hurt that I realise that person at other side of the line hear that buzz, Germany is far from Saint-Petersburg, so I were brave enought to try doing buzz-fix with my own hands. Should notice that I never did soldering of small parts. Measure that

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread abatrour
I tried your suggestion but that got me nowhere fast lol. Maybe I'm just not smart enough to get it working through commands. Are there any distro's that already have some apps to do that for me? Unfortunately, bluetooth calling support is preset but woefully inadequate. SHR will use it, but

Re: some troubles with DIY buzz fix.

2009-08-02 Thread Rafael Campos
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com wrote: Hello, list. My heart is always strongly hurt that I realise that person at other side of the line hear that buzz, Germany is far from Saint-Petersburg, so I were brave enought to try doing buzz-fix with my own hands.

Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi, This is a text version of the wikipage [1], feel free to ask new questions there on the talk page. Discussion on this ML is also appreciated (and in fact i'm more comfortable with ML than the wiki). Openmoko devices Battery questions and answers NB: Some of the described behaviour depends

Re: [qtmoko] Not recieving all sms

2009-08-02 Thread Radek Polak
Alexander Syring wrote: I have a problem with x5 friends of mine send me a sms and the status report came for they that the sms was recieved but my phone won't show the sms, In the logs I read I have 10 sms on my card but they won't be load off. How could I read the sms? Hi Alexander,

Re: [fso] rules for bluetooth headset: BTHeadsetIsConnected() is always true

2009-08-02 Thread arne anka
At present the headset connection seems to be read from the config file at daemon startup, and doesn't seem changeable without editing the config file and restarting the daemons. I can only assume the plan is to make these changes in response to bluez signals, but that it hasn't been

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Paul Joerg, this is an excellent document, obviously I cannot spot anything wrong! I didn't know that some external chargers would not charge gta01 or gta02 batteries because of the thermistor check you are writing about. All the cheap external chargers we bought in Taiwan or China for testing

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com writes: this is an excellent document, obviously I cannot spot anything wrong! Thanks for you kind words. :) I didn't know that some external chargers would not charge gta01 or gta02 batteries because of the thermistor check you are writing about.

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Nope. Bluetooth is quite experimental at this stage. Apparently, the devs didn't realize people wanted BT support, so they never finished it. I've been rallying the ranks trying to make it quite clear that we do, indeed, want good bluetooth support. In the mean time, it's functional, but not

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread abatrour
Nope. Bluetooth is quite experimental at this stage. Apparently, the devs didn't realize people wanted BT support, so they never finished it. I've been rallying the ranks trying to make it quite clear that we do, indeed, want good bluetooth support. In the mean time, it's functional, but not

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
abatrour abatr...@gmail.com writes: My phone is useless right now and I'm starting to get the feeling that I wasted my $400 on a phone which was supposed to work... Maybe my next phone will be.. an IPHONE Hahaha, how scary. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html)

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/2/09, abatrour abatr...@gmail.com wrote: My phone is useless right now and I'm starting to get the feeling that I wasted my $400 on a phone which was supposed to work... Maybe my next phone will be.. an IPHONE Then I think you did mistake. Freerunner is really not for you. And you should

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Nah, get a G2 or something. iPhone is a rip-off. And if I were you, I'd just get a buzzfix. I'm sure someone on this list will be able to do it for you, if you pay shipping. Unfortunately, using bluetooth will not fix the GSM buzz (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I'm just lucky enough that I

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Paul, We will ship our first NanoNote with a BL-4C compatible battery, without Coulomb counter (middle pin unused) [1]. Hm, can BL-5C fit there? Because it'd be much nicer as modern 5Cs have quite some capacity. It fits, but it's a bit too thick so it's hard to close the battery cover with

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com writes: We will ship our first NanoNote with a BL-4C compatible battery, without Coulomb counter (middle pin unused) [1]. Hm, can BL-5C fit there? Because it'd be much nicer as modern 5Cs have quite some capacity. It fits, but it's a bit too thick

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/2 Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com Hmm, that's a pretty strong statement. At Openmoko we spent _a lot_ of money combined to get this CC thing to work. The theory was that you have it in most notebook batteries so it's 'a good thing to have'. But if it's not actually used,

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V5

2009-08-02 Thread Tschaka
Radek Polak wrote: Hi, new version of QtMoko debian images is uploading now. It will be possible to download them soon (like in 2 hours) from: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/ MD5 checksums: 6c259005e72c5c163bee85bdd92d290f qtmoko-debian-v5.jffs2

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm writes: 2009/8/2 Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com Hmm, that's a pretty strong statement. At Openmoko we spent _a lot_ of money combined to get this CC thing to work. The theory was that you have it in most notebook batteries so it's 'a

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread abatrour
I'm going by what the wiki says where a bluetooth headset should bypass the issue. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_Fix I'm hoping that since the buzz is caused by interference from the gsm chip, using a digital recording device should resolve the issue. I was even contemplating modding my

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread arne anka
Hm, there's probably something very wrong with your config, no? what config? With GSM on in suspend it should last for 140 hrs only when deep sleep is usable. the only time i ever heard of 140h suspend were the mail from daniel willmann after he applied a hw fix to #1024. my fr suffers from

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Paul, one more thing... To me it seems that CC readings are almost unused except for presenting the user with a bit more accurate capacity data. And when someone is developing something lowlevel he could as well connect and external ampmeter, much more reliable and flexible approach. This is

Evopedia version 0.2 prerelease

2009-08-02 Thread Christian Reitwießner
Hi! After some serious changes in the dump format that will hopefully speed up the title search (aside from cleaning the dump a bit) and other changes in the software, evopedia version 0.2 is ready for testing. Evopedia is a Wikipedia reader for offline use. Features include: - live title

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes: Hm, there's probably something very wrong with your config, no? what config? Probably deep sleep disabled :) With GSM on in suspend it should last for 140 hrs only when deep sleep is usable. Sure. And with deep sleep disabled it should still be

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Paul, Wolfgang, please consider making current measurement in suspend easy. :) Yeah - I thought that's what we were talking about :-) I'm not sure about your TP/DMM/EE advice. Isn't the Coulomb counter the perfect way to make precise data available to everybody? That was the point I was

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/2 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm writes: 2009/8/2 Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com Hmm, that's a pretty strong statement. At Openmoko we spent _a lot_ of money combined to get this CC thing to work. The theory was that

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread arne anka
Yes, exactly. But fixing is fairly trivial, the soldering part is in fact easier than the buzz fix. well, i sincerely hop, someone steps up and offers that kind of fix. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com writes: To me it seems that CC readings are almost unused except for presenting the user with a bit more accurate capacity data. And when someone is developing something lowlevel he could as well connect and external ampmeter, much more reliable and

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm writes: With GSM on in suspend it should last for 140 hrs and with off it should be even more. Really? Isn't that with deep sleep on? Sure. Paul, of all those acronyms I only understand AA batteries. I said I'm a normal user :-) ROTFL -- Be

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com writes: Wolfgang, please consider making current measurement in suspend easy. :) Yeah - I thought that's what we were talking about :-) I'm not sure about your TP/DMM/EE advice. Hm, if the TPs are easily reachable i'd say that measuring voltage over

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Paul, Yes, i think that's the case. The only state where integrated power measurement readings are unavailable is suspend and that's quite low level already. You could measure the current when you wake up, couldn't you? bq27000 measures current accurately so it should be possible. I'm

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/2 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com Sure. And with deep sleep disabled it should still be ~70hrs, there're some logs from Mickey proving that. Oh, interesting. Maybe it was on a pure console image? I tested this some time ago and I think that running X + enlightenment used more power

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Paul, And for me personally battery accessibility (i can go to the nearest shop and buy a BL-6C in no time and for a fairly low price) is far more important than accurate readings. Oh sure, totally agree with you. The question for me is only whether the device should support the 3rd pin on

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com writes: Yes, i think that's the case. The only state where integrated power measurement readings are unavailable is suspend and that's quite low level already. You could measure the current when you wake up, couldn't you? It's possible with bq27k

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm writes: 2009/8/2 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com Sure. And with deep sleep disabled it should still be ~70hrs, there're some logs from Mickey proving that. Oh, interesting. Maybe it was on a pure console image? I tested this some time ago and I

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Well, I'm not certain, someone who knows better should comment. But I don't believe using BT fixes GSM buzz. I've been wrong before, though... :) Anyways, SHR-U should use your headset if anything will. The wiki page I linked is the one I used and several others have used successfully.

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Paul, It's possible with bq27k because it works autonomously. But if you do something similar to gta01 there's no way to measure current in suspend without an external equipment. Can't you measure current before and after suspend, and knowing how long you were in suspend calculate energy

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com writes: Well, I'm not certain, someone who knows better should comment. But I don't believe using BT fixes GSM buzz. You better do ;) Anyways, SHR-U should use your headset if anything will. The wiki page I linked is the one I used and several

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Fertser
Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@qi-hardware.com writes: It's possible with bq27k because it works autonomously. But if you do something similar to gta01 there's no way to measure current in suspend without an external equipment. Can't you measure current before and after suspend, and knowing how

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread abatrour
I just followed all the steps in that guide. I managed to scan for my headset, bind to it. but it still doesn't work. It's silent and now the only way I can hear anything is by putting it on speaker phone. When I try using it in qtopia I atleast hear something so I know it works, but what i hear

Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V5

2009-08-02 Thread Radek Polak
Tschaka wrote: however, there are a few glitches. * Alarm doesnt start, when the phone is suspended. it just starts a few seconds after manually resuming the phone. Hi, yes, this is another known issue (with quite high priority) on my list. FSO based images used ffalarms and atd for alarm. I

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
There's a line in a config file you need to uncomment. See the wiki page for details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread abatrour
I saw that, when I went to uncomment it, it was already uncommented The Digital Pioneer wrote: There's a line in a config file you need to uncomment. See the wiki page for details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-02 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote: (I understand that Laszlo didn't get the support needed but got some of his code rejected - lost interest.. ) I would like to add my 2 cents here;) I didnt stopped working on paroli at all, just my attention was distracted

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-02 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi! On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Angus Ainslienyt...@openmoko.org wrote: 3 issues that need solving SIM card full when it's not really full as the messages are stored in the rootfs. Need to look into how to fake incoming sms', because, I dont use sms at all. Contacts disappearing

Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset

2009-08-02 Thread The Digital Pioneer
And you've set the bt-headset-address and bt-headset-enabled variables, then rebooted the phone? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-02 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: There are many ongoing work, which needs to be integrated into paroli. There are two branches by Dietrich, namely tacheles and rebase. Where tacheles needs some very deep (tichy/paroli) knowledge, to be able to