Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
Hi! I would like to find an off-the-shelf solution of MintyBoost: http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/ What I want is a nice plastic box, ie proper product not a home-made device. So Im looking for more professional look, Im totally fine with the electrical content, the circuit seems really nice. (many commercial alternatives requires 4(!) batteries to operate, and I highly suspect that it has no special circuitry). So Im looking to something more professional look, I want to buy between 10 and 30 pieces. So the home-made version is a no-go (no matter how nice electrical-wise). Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
I would like to find an off-the-shelf solution of MintyBoost: http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/ What I want is a nice plastic box, ie proper product not a home-made device. So Im looking for more professional look, Im totally fine with the electrical content, the circuit seems really nice. (many commercial alternatives requires 4(!) batteries to operate, and I highly suspect that it has no special circuitry). So Im looking to something more professional look, I want to buy between 10 and 30 pieces. So the home-made version is a no-go (no matter how nice electrical-wise). perhaps someone can suggest a website (which i don't know about) but visiting any nearest airport would usually give you the opportunity to touch and feel the products they have. i have seen about dozen of different ones... not sure about your country of residence... Hungary, guessing from your name, but IIRC Budapest airport didn't have much though :( Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
could you please prefix you mails' subjects with [android]? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reading binary messages
Hello list. Has anyone succeeded / starting working on reading binary sms? I have some of them sitting in my inbox, under SHR it's only displayed as This is a binary message Thanks in advance! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Reading-binary-messages-tp3383279p3383279.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
KaZeR schrieb: Hello list. Has anyone succeeded / starting working on reading binary sms? I have some of them sitting in my inbox, under SHR it's only displayed as This is a binary message Thanks in advance! isnt this text also displayed when getting an mms? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Bernd Prünsterbernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: KaZeR schrieb: Hello list. Has anyone succeeded / starting working on reading binary sms? I have some of them sitting in my inbox, under SHR it's only displayed as This is a binary message Thanks in advance! isnt this text also displayed when getting an mms? Yes I'm pretty sure this is the case. I got one receiving an mms. But maybe Kazer wanted to ask if there is work to display mms... (which are binary sms...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB ste...@le-roux.info 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V5
Glen Ogilvie wrote: Anywhere you'd like me to report bugs? The mailing list is OK for me. I tried this tonight, and discovered that importing my address book failed, with error that the contacts table was missing. I think that whatever builds: /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite is missing the contact table. I replaced it with my backup, and then the address book had my contacts after that. I will try to reproduce and fix it. Btw how did you import address book? Via bluetooth and VCF file or any other way? Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] Not recieving all sms
Chris Samuel wrote: I just sent myself a test SMS and had to reboot to be able to receive it. I have enabled AT command logging and I see this in the logs: Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : t : AT+CPBS=EN Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : EXT: I Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : ERROR Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : T : AT+CIND=? Aug 3 21:44:58 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : +CIND: (signal, (0-5)), (smsfull, (0-1)) Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : f : AT+CPBS=EN Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : f : OK Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : t : AT+CPBR=1,2 Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : OK Aug 3 21:45:00 neo Qtopia: Unable to complete service: NewSmsArrival - timeout Any use ? we will see :) Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
Steven Le Roux wrote: Yes I'm pretty sure this is the case. I got one receiving an mms. But maybe Kazer wanted to ask if there is work to display mms... (which are binary sms...) Indeed, thoses are probably mms notifications, but i can't be sure. When receiving this kind of notifications, the FR should at least decline the reception or notify the service provider that it's unable to read this kind of messages. That way, at least with my operator, you would get a regular clear text sms with an url and password to read the message from a web browser. Can we reject these binary messages? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Reading-binary-messages-tp3383279p3383453.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Petr Vanekvan...@penguin.cz wrote: perhaps someone can suggest a website (which i don't know about) I was in plenty shop here. Like in big electronic market, and specialized gsm phone accessories shops. So about twenty shops in total, but nowhere heard about a tool which can charge the phone from 2 AA batteries. So would be some help to search for specific model. Ordering from EU is not a problem either. I have found on amazon a Lenmar PowerPort Mini model: http://tinyurl.com/nxry2o Which can charge the phone (have an usb socket), but it has a *builtin* li-ion battery. So I need to recharge that battery too. It has its own charger. Im looking what MintyBoost is capable of. Charge the phone from *any* AA battery. no matter if its a rechargable battery, or a simple duracell battery. Would be a plus if it could charge the AA battery, if I plug it in a computer or on a wall-charger. (so no need to carry an additional AA battery charger). The workflow would be something like this: I carry with me 10 AA batteries, and use as many of it as necessary. Would be nice to recharge them only once a week. I would like to use freerunner without charging possibility for 10-14 hours continously. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
2009/8/4 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com I would like to use freerunner without charging possibility for 10-14 hours continously. For my 8 day bike trip I took 2 spare Nokia batteries. The whole set of batteries lasted ~ 5 days of occasional GPS and GSM usage. If it's ok for you to swap batteries once in a while, it might be a better choice. That said, I'm also looking for a device like MintyBoost. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready
On 8/4/09, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: Could the capacity measurement get confused during long storage? Answering to myself here: When I charged the battery capacity increased steadily but when it reached 67% it suddenly jumped to 100% in one minute. I think this concludes that the capacity reported by Linux is not always correct. Where exactly is this figure from? Are you looking at the battery monitor sysfs entry, or something that gets the incorrect figure from hal? I think he's talking about E battery metter, which proves that he's wrong ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
On 8/4/09, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: 1. After I have made a phone call (incoming or outgoing) I need to look into if I believe the phone is still working. Ie. can I receive another call. I don't know exactly what happens, but quite often the phone is broken. Typical symptoms that something is wrong is that the phone will not auto suspend. Settings / Power / Auto suspend will not slide to On. When the phone enters this state it cannot receive any more phone calls / SMS. The solution to this is typically a power off/on. In this state it also does not do a proper logout / shutdown. But pressing the power button for some 8-10 seconds will shutdown. There is newer version of ophonekitd which fixed most of phone functionality crashes. is it available somewhere? last commit to ophonekitd was two months ago... cheers Petr http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr.git;a=commit;h=9667b5bce4175008def57434a6a68bae894de0f5 That's last commit and it isn't two mounths ago :P It should be available in repo, but I think it isn't in latest good working image, so you have to upgrade opkg, fix eventuall issues and then upgrade ophonekitd. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
http://www.outletpc.com/c6862.html http://www.boxwave.com/products/batteryadapter/ http://www.semsons.com/unbaexwiusbp.html rather not AA: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/iDowell/CHARGER/ -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: could you please prefix you mails' subjects with [android]? to me the subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
Am Dienstag, 4. August 2009 14:39:39 schrieb Yorick Moko: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: could you please prefix you mails' subjects with [android]? to me the subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card Which client do you use? I don't see any prefix, too... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
There is newer version of ophonekitd which fixed most of phone functionality crashes. is it available somewhere? last commit to ophonekitd was two months ago... cheers Petr http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr.git;a=commit;h=9667b5bce4175008def57434a6a68bae894de0f5 That's last commit and it isn't two mounths ago :P It should be available in repo, but I think it isn't in latest good working image, so you have to upgrade opkg, fix eventuall issues and then upgrade ophonekitd. thank you, i do run that version then. what about the ophonekitd project in shr git, is it not used anymore? http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=ophonekitd.git;a=commit;h=ee7c18d5f2d78d577605084023da8bc7489db554 Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android-freerunner] Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
client: gta02 os; koolu android 1.5 alpha On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Dienstag, 4. August 2009 14:39:39 schrieb Yorick Moko: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: could you please prefix you mails' subjects with [android]? to me the subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card Which client do you use? I don't see any prefix, too... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Almost there....
On 8/4/09, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: There is newer version of ophonekitd which fixed most of phone functionality crashes. is it available somewhere? last commit to ophonekitd was two months ago... cheers Petr http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr.git;a=commit;h=9667b5bce4175008def57434a6a68bae894de0f5 That's last commit and it isn't two mounths ago :P It should be available in repo, but I think it isn't in latest good working image, so you have to upgrade opkg, fix eventuall issues and then upgrade ophonekitd. thank you, i do run that version then. what about the ophonekitd project in shr git, is it not used anymore? http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=ophonekitd.git;a=commit;h=ee7c18d5f2d78d577605084023da8bc7489db554 Petr It wasn't used at all yet ;) (that's ophonekitd-vala) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all?] menu's with xmessage
Hi All, A while ago i made some scripts to use menu's on the freerunnner. I would like to share it, perhaps it will help someone to enjoy his freerunner more. I made a little demo video on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ondozQyzRdk And put some info and a link to the scripts on: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Kapiteined Have fun with it and use whatever you like about it. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
[cut] to me the subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card I use Evolution 2.26.1 and do not see this prefix... bug in Evo? -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
On August 4, 2009 12:35:12 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! So Im looking to something more professional look, I want to buy between 10 and 30 pieces. So the home-made version is a no-go (no matter how nice electrical-wise). Hey Laszlo, Energizer has the Energi to go series of products. http://www.energizer.com/products/energi-to-go/cell-phone-charger/Pages/cell- battery-charger.aspx Its basically the 2 AA battery power pack with and adapter for many different cell phone versions ( I'm sure I've seen one with a mini USB ). They sell for around $20 here. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [CU] voting required
Second week of voting is passing by. Looks like nobody else will vote, thus i propose to end voting on 2009-08-06, together with CU release [just in case someone will release new distro ;) ]. -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)
Hi, Hi I finally bought a G1, Well! Me too. As you know we first tried to remove(/free) the non-free android part related to the drivers for the G1,but you came and you made shown how to run the distro of your choice on the G1... I did the first step an I've forked the android kernel to remove android components. http://gitorious.org/openmoko-msm-2-6-29 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream We are now more organized and we have a name(replicant),and an IRC channel ( #replicant on freenode),but we are waiting for the rest of the infrastructure Our goal is to free the G1,that is to say port GNU/Linux(with FSO) on it but also replace some android components with free ones so far: *you've got the wifi and the screen working Screen works. I've got Enlightment running right now. Touchscreen and mouse work perfect too. *someone tested that program: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/misc/playwav2.c with all the proprietary things removed and it worked Very good! so we should be able to have sound too but we need something that translate the dspish thing to an alsa thing in order to get out of the box support for all applications else we could port each library or application to the dsp-ish thing(such as mplayer,vlc,pulseaudio,libxine etc...) Denis I would prefer to have a simple /dev/dsp on the kernel greatings leviathan -- David Lanzendörfer OpenSourceSupport GmbH Junior system engineer and supporter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: On August 4, 2009 12:35:12 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! So Im looking to something more professional look, I want to buy between 10 and 30 pieces. So the home-made version is a no-go (no matter how nice electrical-wise). Here is one, that I CAN NOT recommend: http://www.powerguy.de/produkte/1/7/powerguy-m-100/ It has a very lousy USB plug which finally broke the USB connector in my Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Blutsauger#Other_not_recommendable_charging_options Also the output current is very poor. They claim to deliver 240mA, but my feeling was rather 100mA. Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
So Im looking to something more professional look, I want to buy between 10 and 30 pieces. So the home-made version is a no-go (no matter how nice electrical-wise). Here is one, that I CAN NOT recommend: http://www.powerguy.de/produkte/1/7/powerguy-m-100/ It has a very lousy USB plug which finally broke the USB connector in my Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Blutsauger#Other_not_recommendable_charging_options Also the output current is very poor. They claim to deliver 240mA, but my feeling was rather 100mA. thank you for the info, i was considering right this one! petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 06:23:09PM +0100, Tim Abell wrote: I also found I needed to disable the demo set. Tim Abell pike wrote: I dont know if it helps you, but I had the same until I *disabled* the demo mapset. It seems only one mapset is allowed (perhaps, or perhaps its something else - it doesnt mention this in the wiki so i always assume i'm crazy - if this helps we should update the om wiki page to mention this, ehr, feature) you *can* put multiple maps in one mapset, though. good luck! *-pike I'm still having problems with this. When I first encountered the problem it was with the version of Navit provided by the SHR unstable repository, and it was fixed when I downloaded and opkg installed one of the nightly builds from the Navit site. I have no idea why that worked, but it did. Since then I have re-flashed my Freerunner and I can't see to get Navit to display the maps. Navit starts up with no problem and I can see that it has a fix, but the screen is just yellow -- no maps is displayed. No errors, but no map. I would say it was a problem with the map binfile, but it had randomly started working the other day when I installed a nightly build. Anyone have any ideas what the problem might be? Thanks, Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all] gui development for several platforms
hi, i am working on a real simple real time tracker program (mainly aprs) , in python. although primarily targeting freerunner, therefore will be using most probably Elementary, i have another friend running G1. could someone recommend GUI libs that would make this possible? GTK? or not possible at all? thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
Im looking what MintyBoost is capable of. Charge the phone from *any* AA battery. no matter if its a rechargable battery, or a simple duracell battery. I bought such charger in Czech eShop for ~ 7 euros: http://www.alza.cz/mobilni-nabijecka-gp-instantpower-d94738.htm Used it during my 5day on bike holidays. I had also cheap (~10 euro) solar charger, which i used to charge AA batteries during day. http://www.alza.cz/solarni-nabijecka-gp-solar-d94739.htm In the end i was quite happy with this solution, but it took me time to figure out a few things. First the problem with AA charger is that when you plug it in Neo it probably gives just 100mA current and the phone seems to be slowly discharging. So i tried set chg_curlim to 1000 and turn of display. According to negative value in current_now the phone was slowly charging, but still that was not to keep the phone charged. So i switched strategy and charged phone while it was turned off. This worked a bit better. I was able to use the phone twice a day to make calls and keep it charged with batteries from solar charger. You can see some pictures from the trip here: http://picasaweb.google.cz/psonek/20090802JesenikyNaKole Hope this helps Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] new images v6
Hi, i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images. You can download as usually from http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/ MD5 sums: 55cae339a3bbd714cc98f8d057b82014 qtmoko-debian-v6.jffs2 d49dcd64f34e0675874a4bd4f73af79c qtmoko-debian-v6.tar.gz f64f5ff2e7dad0202e7cb69d263d006d uImage-v6.bin Changes from previous version: * wifi should work * alarm should work (only first alarm after boot, second probably wont ring) * greatly improved boot speed (can be even more sped up if you replace bash with dash) * fixed blinking cursor after app in QX ended up * SSH and other services are starting after Qtopia is up (so you have to wait some time before you can ssh to neo) I hope that no regression crept in and i'd recommend this version. There are still problems with long SMS and contacts import. It will take some time because my holidays end up today and i will be probably busy for some time. Anyway, enjoy images Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM, arne ankaopenm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP i do it ;P power on connect adapter (it wcharges) power off you go to sleep tested it yesterday, rather by accident (fso5.5/debian). since i got autosuspend running, the fr uses to nod off even when on power and last night it was at about 85%, when nodding off -- remembering this thread and being curious, i let ist sleep for several minutes (almost 30, i guess) and after resuming the charging level was at 92%. i noticed too, that charging while in suspend mode is slow :( not really cheched why, though ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
elemtary-sms and related stuff
out there, does exist a distro using elementary-sms or elemetary-contacts as pim utilities ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
Im looking what MintyBoost is capable of. Charge the phone from *any* AA battery. no matter if its a rechargable battery, or a simple duracell battery. I bought such charger in Czech eShop for ~ 7 euros: http://www.alza.cz/mobilni-nabijecka-gp-instantpower-d94738.htm Used it during my 5day on bike holidays. I had also cheap (~10 euro) solar charger, which i used to charge AA batteries during day. http://www.alza.cz/solarni-nabijecka-gp-solar-d94739.htm In the end i was quite happy with this solution, but it took me time to figure out a few things. First the problem with AA charger is that when you plug it in Neo it probably gives just 100mA current and the phone seems to be slowly discharging. So i tried set chg_curlim to 1000 and turn of display. According to negative value in current_now the phone was slowly charging, but still that was not to keep the phone charged. So i switched strategy and charged phone while it was turned off. This worked a bit better. I was able to use the phone twice a day to make calls and keep it charged with batteries from solar charger. You can see some pictures from the trip here: http://picasaweb.google.cz/psonek/20090802JesenikyNaKole Hope this helps Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On 8/4/09, PaulTT pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM, arne ankaopenm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Except for charging while it is off, but that is a different story XP i do it ;P power on connect adapter (it wcharges) power off you go to sleep tested it yesterday, rather by accident (fso5.5/debian). since i got autosuspend running, the fr uses to nod off even when on power and last night it was at about 85%, when nodding off -- remembering this thread and being curious, i let ist sleep for several minutes (almost 30, i guess) and after resuming the charging level was at 92%. i noticed too, that charging while in suspend mode is slow :( not really cheched why, though For me suspending causes charging way faster... ;x -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] gui development for several platforms
On Tuesday 04 August 2009, Petr Vanek wrote: hi, i am working on a real simple real time tracker program (mainly aprs) , in python. although primarily targeting freerunner, therefore will be using most probably Elementary, i have another friend running G1. could someone recommend GUI libs that would make this possible? GTK? or not possible at all? AFAIK you can't use any other gui libs with android. I think the best you can hope for is a common backend with separate gui code for android and non- android. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elemtary-sms and related stuff
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:19:17 +0200 PaulTT pau...@gmail.com (P) wrote: out there, does exist a distro using elementary-sms or elemetary-contacts as pim utilities experimentally, on shr you can install opimd-utils and/or get some other scripts from opimd git of shr-project.org Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elemtary-sms and related stuff
On 8/4/09, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:19:17 +0200 PaulTT pau...@gmail.com (P) wrote: out there, does exist a distro using elementary-sms or elemetary-contacts as pim utilities experimentally, on shr you can install opimd-utils and/or get some other scripts from opimd git of shr-project.org Petr elementary-sms and elementary-contacts != opimd-messages and opimd-contacts. The first are from raster, second are from me ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elemtary-sms and related stuff
out there, does exist a distro using elementary-sms or elemetary-contacts as pim utilities experimentally, on shr you can install opimd-utils and/or get some other scripts from opimd git of shr-project.org Petr elementary-sms and elementary-contacts != opimd-messages and opimd-contacts. The first are from raster, second are from me ;) huh, i thought elementary based :) Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready
Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: Could the capacity measurement get confused during long storage? Answering to myself here: When I charged the battery capacity increased steadily but when it reached 67% it suddenly jumped to 100% in one minute. I think this concludes that the capacity reported by Linux is not always correct. Yes, that's the info from bq27000 that you see. I'll soon expose the flag that tells if bq27000 is certain in its values or not. So yes, i recommend to charge the battery before storage a bit (~50% is ok), and to be sure of capacity to do a calibration cycle (which i'll describe later). -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
Since then I have re-flashed my Freerunner and I can't see to get Navit to display the maps. Navit starts up with no problem and I can see that it has a fix, but the screen is just yellow -- no maps is displayed. No errors, but no map. One way to test the binfile is to start searching for cities / streets in the area of the binfile. If navit recognizes it, you should see the names autocompleting As for the yellow screen, have you gotten a fix since using the latest navit? That should help. Otherwise, there is a center= line in the navit.xml file that I think is supposed to be a start point or something. Good luck! Thanks, Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.34/2268 - Release Date: 07/28/09 06:00:00 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qtmoko] Developping Compiling
Is there a simple way to develop compile for it ? Must I have all the sources of Qt-extended 4.5.2 ?? Is there a simple way without that I must compile all of it ? Example, only with the toolchains sdk ? The page from wiki is not so clear for me ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
On 2009.08.04.02.31, KaZeR wrote: | | | | Steven Le Roux wrote: | | Yes I'm pretty sure this is the case. I got one receiving an mms. | | But maybe Kazer wanted to ask if there is work to display mms... | (which are binary sms...) | | | | Indeed, thoses are probably mms notifications, but i can't be sure. | When receiving this kind of notifications, the FR should at least decline | the reception or notify the service provider that it's unable to read this | kind of messages. That way, at least with my operator, you would get a | regular clear text sms with an url and password to read the message from a | web browser. | | Can we reject these binary messages? I got a crazy idea... why don't we actually _display_ mms messages? Is this actually difficult or is it a matter of nobody having the time / care to do it? ... research ... OK, my new rough guess is that the issue is that MMS has some carrier-specific configs? The wiki discuss page mentions mmslib, which is actually a PHP library that claims to decode MMS messages. Anyone play with that? --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
I get the same when some one with a Nokia or Ericsson phone sends me a phone-number-fancy-sms. -f- On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote: On 2009.08.04.02.31, KaZeR wrote: | | | | Steven Le Roux wrote: | | Yes I'm pretty sure this is the case. I got one receiving an mms. | | But maybe Kazer wanted to ask if there is work to display mms... | (which are binary sms...) | | | | Indeed, thoses are probably mms notifications, but i can't be sure. | When receiving this kind of notifications, the FR should at least decline | the reception or notify the service provider that it's unable to read this | kind of messages. That way, at least with my operator, you would get a | regular clear text sms with an url and password to read the message from a | web browser. | | Can we reject these binary messages? I got a crazy idea... why don't we actually _display_ mms messages? Is this actually difficult or is it a matter of nobody having the time / care to do it? ... research ... OK, my new rough guess is that the issue is that MMS has some carrier-specific configs? The wiki discuss page mentions mmslib, which is actually a PHP library that claims to decode MMS messages. Anyone play with that? --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Charging in suspend (was: Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?)
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com writes: i noticed too, that charging while in suspend mode is slow :( not really cheched why, though For me suspending causes charging way faster... ;x That looks to be correct, as almost all 500mA from USB will go to charge battery. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
MMS notification is sent as a URL via SMS. bluesms.py has initial support for MMS however my phone has been out for buzzfix for a while. with a growing number of phones and carriers, you're only allowed to fetch that URL from the phone number it's designated for. further, it's normal to require you to fetch via your APN proxy. do note that the PDU decoding for these binary messages is broken in FSO and needs to be fixed. i'll work on that when i get my phone back next week. that means that the URL sent to you could have junk prefixed to the URL, or the front of the URL could be chopped off. step 1: MMSC sends you an SMS with a URL step 2: your phone should bring up GPRS if not already up step 3: your phone should fetch the MMS by way of your APN proxy using the given URL. step 4: decode the MMS as applicable step 5: save the content you decoded and notify the message reader program that it's ready for rendering step 6: shut down GPRS if necessary -david ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
On 8/4/09, Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote: this actually difficult or is it a matter of nobody having the time / care to do it? I think noone cares. I don't need MMS at all, and I have many others more important issues to fix/implement, and I think most of developers think the same. But if you want to implement MMS, then go ahead! Discuss with FSO guys where and how it should be implemented, and then work with SHR devs to support it in GUI. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:24:00PM -0700, Russell Dwiggins wrote: Since then I have re-flashed my Freerunner and I can't see to get Navit to display the maps. Navit starts up with no problem and I can see that it has a fix, but the screen is just yellow -- no maps is displayed. No errors, but no map. One way to test the binfile is to start searching for cities / streets in the area of the binfile. If navit recognizes it, you should see the names autocompleting As for the yellow screen, have you gotten a fix since using the latest navit? That should help. Otherwise, there is a center= line in the navit.xml file that I think is supposed to be a start point or something. Good luck! Thanks, Russell. Yes, I'm sure the device has a fix, as TangoGPS indicates so and so does Navit in the status bar at the bottom. And your suggestion to try looking for a city was a good one. It turns out the search is working, and I was able to find cities when looking for a destination. So I guess this means that the map is getting loaded, but the graphical part of it is not displaying for some reason. I'm not really sure where to go from here, especially since Navit isn't producing any errors. I've been looking through the output of an strace on Navit, but nothing has jumped out at me yet. Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Fun] Have you ever wondered of the GPS chip accuracy?
Hi! When I was on holiday, I ended up to write a gps app, and I wondered how to measure speed exactly. My first attempt was, that I take the gps coordinates every second, and I calculate how many meters I walked/biked. Then I discovered, that fso reports speed too (although in knot units), after a bit of research, I multiplied the knots with 1.852 to finally have my speed in km/hour. Then I compared the two results, and it was interesting enough, that I thought would be fun to share with you too. Here is the generated svg data: http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/doh.svg On the horizontal axe you can see the time (in 10 sec unit, and every minutes and 10 minutes has a longer line). On the vertical axe there is the speed in km/h. There are some horizontal area, which indicates speed limits (I was biking): greenish: 0-5km/h yellowish: 5-10km/h red/lila: 10-15km/h blueish: 15-20km/h The black curve is the calculated speed based on the reported gps coordinates. The green curve is the speed what the gps chip recorded. The duration of the whole trip was 15 min, as you can read from the graphicon. I think the pictures talks for himself, but everybody can see, that the calculated speed is really hairy compared to the reported speed by the gps chip. If anybody interested, I can share the data (from where the graph was generated)... I got two questions regarding the gps chip, maybe someone can answer me: - is there some settings, where I can fine-tune the gps chip? (I think what is the method to calculate the average speed? Is it adjustable?) - Is there a way to ask for gps coordinates faster then one second? (for running 0.1 sec would be awesome). And why the time is only reported in sec unit? (not fraction of the second) 1249424982.764385 vs. 1249424982 Is it a limitation of the gps chip? Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Brockawwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote: [...] I got a crazy idea... why don't we actually _display_ mms messages? Is this actually difficult or is it a matter of nobody having the time / care to do it? Reading MMS should be quite easy technically. The effort is integrating it in FSO in an elegant and robust way to do some automagically retrieve, handling the case if a GRPS connection is already up with different apn, if you changed the sim and so on. For the GUI part it should be only a matter of showing pics/play streams etc. FSO founded a company providing professional support, so I just guess that if someone will fund them we may have MMS support quite quickly ;) Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fun] Have you ever wondered of the GPS chip accuracy?
I think the chip accuracy has nothing to do with it. As I can see from the picture, right now you just have reported speed at time points connected with straight lines. This is why it's so hairy - because it's a raw speed at 1 second rate. What you want to do is to use some kind of filter, for example moving average - it will make your data look like data from the chip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_average Leonti On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! When I was on holiday, I ended up to write a gps app, and I wondered how to measure speed exactly. My first attempt was, that I take the gps coordinates every second, and I calculate how many meters I walked/biked. Then I discovered, that fso reports speed too (although in knot units), after a bit of research, I multiplied the knots with 1.852 to finally have my speed in km/hour. Then I compared the two results, and it was interesting enough, that I thought would be fun to share with you too. Here is the generated svg data: http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/doh.svg On the horizontal axe you can see the time (in 10 sec unit, and every minutes and 10 minutes has a longer line). On the vertical axe there is the speed in km/h. There are some horizontal area, which indicates speed limits (I was biking): greenish: 0-5km/h yellowish: 5-10km/h red/lila: 10-15km/h blueish: 15-20km/h The black curve is the calculated speed based on the reported gps coordinates. The green curve is the speed what the gps chip recorded. The duration of the whole trip was 15 min, as you can read from the graphicon. I think the pictures talks for himself, but everybody can see, that the calculated speed is really hairy compared to the reported speed by the gps chip. If anybody interested, I can share the data (from where the graph was generated)... I got two questions regarding the gps chip, maybe someone can answer me: - is there some settings, where I can fine-tune the gps chip? (I think what is the method to calculate the average speed? Is it adjustable?) - Is there a way to ask for gps coordinates faster then one second? (for running 0.1 sec would be awesome). And why the time is only reported in sec unit? (not fraction of the second) 1249424982.764385 vs. 1249424982 Is it a limitation of the gps chip? Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
On 2009.08.04.17.15, David Ford wrote: | bluesms.py has initial support for MMS however my phone has been out for | .. bluesms.py is exactly what I was thinking of / looking for. I found your svn and see that it is a work-in-progress, but I'll give it a spin when I can anyway. Thanks! --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
good :) my work has been stunted for a few weeks while my phone is out but it's my pet project :) -david Brock wrote: On 2009.08.04.17.15, David Ford wrote: | bluesms.py has initial support for MMS however my phone has been out for | .. bluesms.py is exactly what I was thinking of / looking for. I found your svn and see that it is a work-in-progress, but I'll give it a spin when I can anyway. Thanks! --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:53 PM, David Lanzendörfer david.lanzendoer...@o2s.ch wrote: Screen works. I've got Enlightment running right now. Touchscreen and mouse work perfect too. Screenshot? Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:22 AM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Here's the latest Intone release. c_c, ive got 0.62 running on my neo. ive just ripped a cd as ogg files. tags exist in the files, checked with kid-3 and rhythmbox. but when i import the songs on intone all the songs are named the same thing. help! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
