Re: [Fun] Have you ever wondered of the GPS chip accuracy?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Leonti Bielskiprishe...@gmail.com wrote: I think the chip accuracy has ntothing to do with it. As I can see from the picture, right now you just have reported speed at time points connected with straight lines. If you compare the green line with the hairy black one, you can see, that the green is around where the black one has a *minimum*. And the width of the hair is pretty much the inaccuracy. If I were calculate an average speed it would be about 5km/h more than the reported speed (green). And btw, simple averaging affects the dynamic of the curve. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtmoko] Developping Compiling
Sound Freedom wrote: Is there a simple way to develop compile for it ? Yes, check page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qt_Extended_Improved Must I have all the sources of Qt-extended 4.5.2 ?? No, use source code in my git: http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/tree/master/ Is there a simple way without that I must compile all of it ? Example, only with the toolchains sdk ? Probably yes, if someone builds and uploads the SDK somehwere. Hope it helps Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Hi, jeremy jozwik wrote: when i import the songs on intone all the songs are named the same thing. Yup - that was a bug. Please re-download the ipk from the first mail in this topic and re-install intone. Re-scan and all will be fine. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.62-release-tp3376283p3389768.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
Freesmartphone.org is going out of the distro business. We will focus on the framework itself and will rely on SHR for building a real distro and GUI around it. I got the above comment on a bug report I just filed and while I've heard it mentioned, I don't understand the ramifications. 1. How will FSO -test- their stuff during development prior to a distro picking up the release? Don't they need a vanilla distro for their own testing purposes? 2. If not FSO, where can I get a vanilla distro that -excludes- most of the GUI apps and let's me install just that which I want to use? I've been using the FSO distro because it lets me start with a solid kernel + basic services and build up an environment just the way I want. The other distros I've looked at bundle too much and make assumptions about the phone UI and PIM data storage that get in the way of operation. Really just the kernel, an sshd, FSO services, busybox, elementary, X11, Python and an opkg command pointing to a current set of .ipk files would be fine. Am I out of luck and things are going the way of bulky complex distros on Neo as well? -Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
On 8/5/09, Jeff Rush j...@taupro.com wrote: 1. How will FSO -test- their stuff during development prior to a distro picking up the release? Don't they need a vanilla distro for their own testing purposes? Well, SHR is plain FSO + UI apps. You need some UI to test framework, don't you? :P I've been using the FSO distro because it lets me start with a solid kernel + basic services and build up an environment just the way I want. The other distros I've looked at bundle too much and make assumptions about the phone UI and PIM data storage that get in the way of operation. framework already make assumption about PIM data storage - opimd :P Really just the kernel, an sshd, FSO services, busybox, elementary, X11, Python and an opkg command pointing to a current set of .ipk files would be fine. Am I out of luck and things are going the way of bulky complex distros on Neo as well? It should be very easy to build on top on SHR. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:02:45 am Patryk Benderz wrote: I use Evolution 2.26.1 and do not see this prefix... bug in Evo? Nope, I don't see it in KMail and it's not in the raw message. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] new images v6
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:54:31 am Radek Polak wrote: i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images. Awesome! Is it possible to dist-upgrade to this new version ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
Really just the kernel, an sshd, FSO services, busybox, elementary, X11, Python and an opkg command pointing to a current set of .ipk files would be fine. Am I out of luck and things are going the way of bulky complex distros on Neo as well? It should be very easy to build on top on SHR. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos You can try SHR Lite. I am also assuming that FSO new company will continue to release milestone releases to demo FSO, but not support it like a full distro; but I may be wrong here. Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
Hi ! I agree with Sebastian ... I'm building the Qalee distribution on top of shr ... Well, SHR is plain FSO + UI apps. You need some UI to test framework, don't you? :P (...) It should be very easy to build on top on SHR. That's a pain to build a new distro on top of shr, I've spent a lot of time in removing un-needed thinks. It would have been easier if I had a basic image with only the minimum ... It's a reason I've used debian in a first step ( not the only one ) but community requested a version based on shr/fso ... I had to brack lot of think to get a minimal image ( and I'm not sure it doesn't contain uneeded thinks ) ... -- __ http://think-free.homelinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
2009/8/5 Christophe M meumeu1...@gmail.com Hi ! I agree with Sebastian ... I'm building the Qalee distribution on top of shr ... Well, SHR is plain FSO + UI apps. You need some UI to test framework, don't you? :P (...) It should be very easy to build on top on SHR. That's a pain to build a new distro on top of shr, I've spent a lot of time in removing un-needed thinks. It would have been easier if I had a basic image with only the minimum ... It's a reason I've used debian in a first step ( not the only one ) but community requested a version based on shr/fso ... I had to brack lot of think to get a minimal image ( and I'm not sure it doesn't contain uneeded thinks ) ... Can't you build a minimal image with OE, and install FSO on it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?
Hi folks, Does anyone know if the Android images at: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/ does suspend/resume at all ? I last tried the Koolu ones a few months back and I don't believe they could suspend/resume at all.. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
Hello. On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 05:17, Jeff Rush wrote: Freesmartphone.org is going out of the distro business. We will focus on the framework itself and will rely on SHR for building a real distro and GUI around it. That was me. So let's explain it a bit more. I got the above comment on a bug report I just filed and while I've heard it mentioned, I don't understand the ramifications. 1. How will FSO -test- their stuff during development prior to a distro picking up the release? Don't they need a vanilla distro for their own testing purposes? Why would we need that? At the moment Daniel and me are using SHR unstable as daily phone. That gives the framework a lot testing. We are also testing newer versions of the framework or the new fso-abyss muxer within SHR on these phones. So far this is working very well and we are happy that we can join forces with the SHR guys on this topic. Way to much time and energy was spent on creating images, feeds and other distro things while we could have spent this on the framework itself. 2. If not FSO, where can I get a vanilla distro that -excludes- most of the GUI apps and let's me install just that which I want to use? I've been using the FSO distro because it lets me start with a solid kernel + basic services and build up an environment just the way I want. The other distros I've looked at bundle too much and make assumptions about the phone UI and PIM data storage that get in the way of operation. That is a valid point. We targetted this one with our console and illume images in the fso builds. As these both images are only a subset of the the bigger shr images they should be easy to provide. I will talk to the SHR guys if it would be possible to build these when they are building the others. That way you could take a smaller image with the stuff you like and put on top what you want. How does that sound to you? regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
Hello. On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 16:40, rakshat hooja wrote: Really just the kernel, an sshd, FSO services, busybox, elementary, X11, Python and an opkg command pointing to a current set of .ipk files would be fine. Am I out of luck and things are going the way of bulky complex distros on Neo as well? It should be very easy to build on top on SHR. You can try SHR Lite. I am also assuming that FSO new company will continue to release milestone releases to demo FSO, but not support it like a full distro; but I may be wrong here. We have no plans for that. Focusing on the framework itself is what we are trying to do. On the other hand the point for s smaller image is valid and we need to address it. I hope we can do this within SHR. That way you would not have the UI and some tweaks, can use the feed and build your stuff on top. regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
Hello. On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 13:21, Michal Brzozowski wrote: Can't you build a minimal image with OE, and install FSO on it? I think Jeff likes to avoid building his own images, feeds, etc. He likes to have an image he can flash, install packages and build his solution on top of fso. regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Stefan Schmidtste...@openmoko.org wrote: Why would we need that? At the moment Daniel and me are using SHR unstable as daily phone. That gives the framework a lot testing. We are also testing newer versions of the framework or the new fso-abyss muxer within SHR on these phones. So far this is working very well and we are happy that we can join forces with the SHR guys on this topic. Way to much time and energy was spent on creating images, feeds and other distro things while we could have spent this on the framework itself. Does that also need, that SHR tries to migrate to 2.6.30 kernel? Currently they are on 2.6.28. Im asking because 2.6.30 kernel should contain many improvements (dumb battery driver, glamo work, wifi improvement, gprs improvement, etc, etc), so it would make sense (to me at least) that FSO wants to test their framework against 2.6.30 kernel too. What is the plan? Because if fso is bundled to shr, that obviously means migrating to 2.6.30 depends upon shr decision. Or who should do that job (ie. migration)? Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Christophe Mmeumeu1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi ! I agree with Sebastian ... I'm building the Qalee distribution on top of shr [...] It should be very easy to build on top on SHR. That's a pain to build a new distro on top of shr, I've spent a lot of time in removing un-needed thinks. It would have been easier if I had a basic image with only the minimum ... It's a reason I've used debian in a first step ( not the only one ) but community requested a version based on shr/fso ... I had to brack lot of think to get a minimal image ( and I'm not sure it doesn't contain uneeded thinks ) ... Hi Christophe, you just anticipate me a bit, I'm just doing the same of you branching shr-import, and trying to have qt4.5.2, kernel 2.6.30.1, qalee, litephone and my apps on it. I agree, shr-import is not suited for branching new distributions dues of it's bleeding edge nature, highly E customization/dependencies and no effort on some alternative toolkits. I'm waiting for further news about a common smartphone branch as of Mickey's announce. In the mean time, an shr-console-image.bb or shr-console-x11-image (without illume, e* etc) may be very appreciated. Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Does that also need, that SHR tries to migrate to 2.6.30 kernel? Currently they are on 2.6.28. Im asking because 2.6.30 kernel should contain many improvements (dumb battery driver, glamo work, wifi improvement, gprs improvement, etc, etc), so it would make sense (to me at least) that FSO wants to test their framework against 2.6.30 kernel too. What is the plan? Because if fso is bundled to shr, that obviously means migrating to 2.6.30 depends upon shr decision. Or who should do that job (ie. migration)? I'd like to know about xglamo too, AFAIK it's depcrecated. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?
Chris Samuel wrote: I last tried the Koolu ones a few months back and I don't believe they could suspend/resume at all.. Hi Chris, I don't know about the panicking image, but the koolu cupcake alpha 1 image suspends fine for me: http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:36:58 pm Nicola Mfb wrote: Hi Christophe, you just anticipate me a bit, I'm just doing the same of you branching shr-import, and trying to have qt4.5.2, kernel 2.6.30.1, qalee, litephone and my apps on it. Sounds interesting! I haven't been keeping up with this side of things, is it possible yet to import a vcard address book into it yet ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
On 8/5/09, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Does that also need, that SHR tries to migrate to 2.6.30 kernel? Currently they are on 2.6.28. No, SHR is currently on 2.6.29 - it uses newest andy-tracking, so dumb battery drivers and few other things are already in SHR. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Dienstag, 4. August 2009 14:39:39 schrieb Yorick Moko: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: could you please prefix you mails' subjects with [android]? to me the subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card Which client do you use? I don't see any prefix, too... I use gmail and the original subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card while every response (even mine!) appears as Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card strange ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
Yorick Moko wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Dienstag, 4. August 2009 14:39:39 schrieb Yorick Moko: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: could you please prefix you mails' subjects with [android]? to me the subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card Which client do you use? I don't see any prefix, too... I use gmail and the original subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card while every response (even mine!) appears as Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card strange I suspect you're also subscribed to the android-freerunner mailinglist at koolu (which does prepend [android-freerunner]) where this was also posted and that gmail automagically detected that they were duplicates and merged the two threads. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fun] Have you ever wondered of the GPS chip accuracy?
On Tuesday 04 August 2009, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I got two questions regarding the gps chip, maybe someone can answer me: - is there some settings, where I can fine-tune the gps chip? (I think what is the method to calculate the average speed? Is it adjustable?) If you talk to the GPS directly using the UBX format you can change the mode to match your vehicle/usage type. This changes some of the assumptions it makes in location estimation. This isn't available through the FSO interface, but at least ome app (omgps?) is using it. Links to the UBX docs were in the wiki last time I looked. Remember you will have to disable ogpsd before you use it this way. - Is there a way to ask for gps coordinates faster then one second? (for running 0.1 sec would be awesome). And why the time is only reported in sec unit? (not fraction of the second) 1249424982.764385 vs. 1249424982 Is it a limitation of the gps chip? This came up on the list before. IIRC you can ask the GPS for more or less frequent reports, and the integer seconds are due to the FSO implementation rather than the GPS. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:54:13 pm Michael Sheldon wrote: I don't know about the panicking image, but the koolu cupcake alpha 1 image suspends fine for me: http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ Sadly it appears that this image still has the issues of not registering correctly with Vodafone in Australia (reported to Koolu 30th May), resulting in all calls being permanently diverted to voicemail. :-( cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evopedia version 0.2 prerelease
Yorick Moko schrieb: Great! I really like this project. I'm interested in a Dutch version. And I'm sure everyone is interested in an English version. Which squashfs version do you guys use atm? Thank you, I'm just compiling the Dutch version. Unfortunately, the dump process takes very long. I'm using a modified (simplified) version of the normal DumpHTML Mediawiki extension. Any suggestions for faster Mediawiki to HTML converters are welcome. Because of that I have not yet dared to dump the English version. The German version already takes almost a week to dump... Kind regards, Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fun] Have you ever wondered of the GPS chip accuracy?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: I got two questions regarding the gps chip, maybe someone can answer me: - is there some settings, where I can fine-tune the gps chip? (I think what is the method to calculate the average speed? Is it adjustable?) I could be mistaken, but I think there are different modes for the GPS chip; one of them being automobile - Is there a way to ask for gps coordinates faster then one second? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Configuration_for_a_higher_sampling_rate max is 4/sec ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
Does that also need, that SHR tries to migrate to 2.6.30 kernel? Currently they are on 2.6.28. Im asking because 2.6.30 kernel should contain many improvements (dumb does debian provide 2.6.30? i can only see 2.6.29... cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?
Fix for incoming call to voicemail bug: http://www.mail-archive.com/android-freerun...@android.koolu.org/msg01047.html On Aug 5, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Chris Samuel wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:54:13 pm Michael Sheldon wrote: I don't know about the panicking image, but the koolu cupcake alpha 1 image suspends fine for me: http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ Sadly it appears that this image still has the issues of not registering correctly with Vodafone in Australia (reported to Koolu 30th May), resulting in all calls being permanently diverted to voicemail. :-( cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] new images v6
Chris Samuel wrote: Awesome! Is it possible to dist-upgrade to this new version ? I guess no. You could replace /opt with never version but i also moved startup to runlevel 2 so you would need to remove it from rc.local and move it to init.d If i ever get to it, i'll pack qtopia as debian package and then upgrades will work. But now i do it all manually [1] Regards Radek [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/debian_rootfs_howto.txt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/4/09, Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote: this actually difficult or is it a matter of nobody having the time / care to do it? I think noone cares. I don't need MMS at all, Yes, we care. I don't send MMS myself, but others send me pictures occationally - it'd sure be nice to see them on the excellent display... Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fun] Have you ever wondered of the GPS chip accuracy?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Yorick Mokoyorickm...@gmail.com wrote: I could be mistaken, but I think there are different modes for the GPS chip; one of them being automobile There is, but I never managed to send the good UBX commands into the chip. Anyway the feature is clearly mentionned on the ublox doc. -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing Litephone, new phone interface
Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/8/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no mailto:helge.haft...@hist.no Michal Brzozowski wrote: Litephone beta1 is available here: http://pvtrace.com/litephone/litephone_0.0.1-r2_armv4t.ipk Beta impressions: * When the phone rings, please have litephone jump to the foreground. Currently, I have to wade through several other running apps in order to pick up the phone. I was wondering when someone brings this up :-). Actually I don't like the idea of poping up the phone window when the user is doing something. Normally, I am very much against popups, because they interrupt other work. A ringing phone is different. It is already an interruption, and one that has to be handled in real-time too. If I don't want to answer, I still want to reject the call. So I need some sort of UI when it rings, and it had better not be cumbersome just because some other app was on top. Of course, a popup is not the only way. I have been thinking that since this is a _phone_, then perhaps the AUX button should pick up the phone whenever it rings, and hang up whenever there is a call in progress. That would get rid of many problems. In particular, one doesn't even have to look at the screen at all. Other popular uses for AUX could still work - when there isn't a call in progress. It is not as if I tend to lock the screen while talking... I have a plan to show a little xshape gadget on the bottom of the screen on incoming call or sms. On call it would probably show accept/reject/mute buttons, the first one additonally bringing up the phone window on click. On sms it would display the content in a one line pager style, and have show/hide message buttons. I wonder what you think about this idea :-) That seems ok too. * Deleting a message (up-to-date SHR unstable) gives a screenful of error messages. But the message was deleted. Yes, although I think deleting did work for a while. Here's the error (for Sebastian :-)): http://pvtrace.com/litephone/delete_errors.txt The message was probably not deleted, you will notice on restarting litephone (it just deleted it from cache) I noticed it showed up in shr messages. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
+1 2009/8/5 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/4/09, Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote: this actually difficult or is it a matter of nobody having the time / care to do it? I think noone cares. I don't need MMS at all, Yes, we care. I don't send MMS myself, but others send me pictures occationally - it'd sure be nice to see them on the excellent display... Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:56 AM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Yup - that was a bug. Please re-download the ipk from the first mail in this topic and re-install intone. Re-scan and all will be fine. still no dice. r...@om-gta02 ~/.intone $ opkg install http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3376283/intone_0.62_arm.ipk Downloading http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3376283/intone_0.62_arm.ipk Multiple packages (intone and intone) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Installing intone (0.62) to root... Configuring intone that was the link in the first post ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reading binary messages
Am Mittwoch 05 August 2009 15:46:12 schrieb Helge Hafting: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/4/09, Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org wrote: this actually difficult or is it a matter of nobody having the time / care to do it? I think noone cares. I don't need MMS at all, Yes, we care. I don't send MMS myself, but others send me pictures occationally - it'd sure be nice to see them on the excellent display... Helge Hafting I got an MMS last week and looked around if i can find some dokumentation for MMS. I found this page [1] with the spezification. But i didn't feeled like looking at it. It's a bit too much. Perhaps someone can summerize the data format. After that implementing is a lot easier, i think. Thomas [1] http://www.openmobilealliance.org/Technical/release_program/mms_v1_3.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:25 AM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: still no dice. r...@om-gta02 ~/.intone $ opkg install http://intone.googlecode.com/files/intone_0.62_arm.ipk Downloading http://intone.googlecode.com/files/intone_0.62_arm.ipk Multiple packages (intone and intone) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Installing intone (0.62) to root... Configuring intone worked! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions
On 2009.08.05.13.32, Stefan Schmidt wrote: | 1. How will FSO -test- their stuff during development prior to a | distro picking up the release? Don't they need a vanilla | distro for their own testing purposes? | | Why would we need that? At the moment Daniel and me are using SHR unstable as | daily phone. That gives the framework a lot testing. We are also testing newer | versions of the framework or the new fso-abyss muxer within SHR on these phones. Are there any tricks to using a git-bleeding copy (built directly from git, no packaging or anything) of FSO on a random distro? I intend to try that on Debian soon and thought I'd ask so I can anticipate issues. Being able to do that would make testing / developing easier, and I'm guessing that it is what you already do. Thanks, --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner with buzz-fix for sale
Alas the dream didn't come true for me. I need a phone with a reliable calendar/alarm system, and I don't see any of the Openmoko distros delivering that any time soon. I'm going to pick up a Palm Pre, since that at least has a real Linux under the hood. My Neo is thus for sale. GTA02 S/N 8A8604276 charger + foreign adapters two batteries headphones pouch original box (with a big mailing label on it) screen protector buzz fix applied by SDG Systems boots fine $200 I'm in Silicon Valley, and will mail it anywhere in the US for free. -- Dirk Bergstrom openm...@otisbean.com http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] Not recieving all sms
sorry, but how to enabled This kind of logging ? 2009/8/4 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz Chris Samuel wrote: I just sent myself a test SMS and had to reboot to be able to receive it. I have enabled AT command logging and I see this in the logs: Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : t : AT+CPBS=EN Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : EXT: I Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : ERROR Aug 3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat : T : AT+CIND=? Aug 3 21:44:58 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : +CIND: (signal, (0-5)), (smsfull, (0-1)) Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : f : AT+CPBS=EN Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : f : OK Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : t : AT+CPBR=1,2 Aug 3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat : F : OK Aug 3 21:45:00 neo Qtopia: Unable to complete service: NewSmsArrival - timeout Any use ? we will see :) Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: Where exactly is this figure from? Are you looking at the battery monitor sysfs entry, or something that gets the incorrect figure from hal? current_now file from sysfs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com writes: I think he's talking about E battery metter, which proves that he's wrong ;) Sorry for the late reply, but no, I don't run any E stuff :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OPIMD: List of available attributes documented?
Hi, I am currently on the way of implementing OPIMD Contacts Domain integration in our PIM synchronization tool PISI. After having all the connectivity bits and pieces in place, it would be helpful to have an ** up-to-date list of attributes / fields ** , which are supported in OPIMD (especially in SHR-Contacts). All I could find is this out-dated list: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob_plain;f=framework/subsystems/opimd/docs/contact_fields.txt;hb=master Any idea, where I can get more recent information from? thx in advance, Mike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all?] menu's with xmessage
Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org writes: A while ago i made some scripts to use menu's on the freerunnner. I would like to share it, perhaps it will help someone to enjoy his freerunner more. Cool, so I'm not the only one using xmessage for simple prototypes :-) I wrote a simple program (message-id 84eisefj5n@sauna.l.org) that shows my current location in UTM coordinate system and lets me refresh this position whenever I want. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
Nathan Kinkade n...@nkinka.de writes: I'm not really sure where to go from here, especially since Navit isn't producing any errors. I've been looking through the output of an strace on Navit, but nothing has jumped out at me yet. The problem is that the configuration file of navit pretty much describes what you have in the UI. And navit gets developed so fast that old configuration files can cease to work in upgrade. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all] call for support: edje guru needed
i am the author of the nEo theme. i would really appriciate if someone would jump in and support my effort to create a 1.0 version of the theme where NOTHING shines through for the default theme. so basiacally the enlightenment theme has to be completed. and the etk theme. well... we need an etk theme, since the only thing customized atm is teh etk tree and only partly. i can do it on my own, but help would be appriciated. critearia: * use as little pngs as possible (recycle where possible) - you dont have to draw you won pngs since everything you need is already there (except maybe for some small gui elements like found in right click menu etc). * use as lillte layers a possible, while still keeping a nice look * use some small animations where needed (not where they would be nice - of cource a fade in and fade out of a overlayed rect when pressing a button won't hurt anyone) * dont use colored pngs since the nEo theme only uses black white and green, so white pngs can be colored in the edje data collection * in case you have some elements with spacing inbetween and these elements are on top of a scollable area please place a solid recht underneath these elements to grant smooth scrolling * remove as many layers as possible from the default theme's elements since we dont need them (no dont replace them with translucent rect os sth like that, kick 'em out for good!) anyone out there who is interested (please i know most of what i did is quick and dirty, but a goal for now is creating a complete theme suite) and has the needed skills to do it? note: i am not using edje editor, im using a text editor to make the themes (because i dont trust wysiwyg editors) if there finally is a theme suite where no elements from the default theme shines through i'd like some real edje guru to overview it and tell me where the really ugly parts are. br ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] call for support: edje guru needed
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bernd Prünsterbernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: i am the author of the nEo theme. i would really appriciate if someone would jump in and support my effort to create a 1.0 version of the theme where NOTHING shines through for the default theme. i am really interested in helping create alternate themes for openmoko, only i have no knowledge of how to do so. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] call for support: edje guru needed
jeremy jozwik schrieb: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bernd Prünsterbernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: i am the author of the nEo theme. i would really appriciate if someone would jump in and support my effort to create a 1.0 version of the theme where NOTHING shines through for the default theme. i am really interested in helping create alternate themes for openmoko, only i have no knowledge of how to do so. luckily edje is that part of enlightenment that is well documented. just google it and you will find an api documentation. armed with that doc just take a look at your theme of choice. install the nEo themes and you will have everything you need to start playing around. install elementary tests the etk examples etc... so you can actually see which block in the edc does what. current state of the nEo themes: elementary: complete gtk+: complete icon theme: will never ever be complete since new apps get written/ported nearly everyday illume theme: alsmost there (just the sliders, some lables and list in 2 or three places, but the standard user will most likely never see it, because most of it is hidden somwehre deep down in the configs) libframeworkd-phonegui-efl: complete (do wen need a gree deletion icon or is the dfault one fine for the dialer?) etk theme: only the etk tree is done so far gpe-icontheme: half way there gtk-icon theme: nearly complete, prettier icons will be supplied in teh near future long story short: the nEo theme is very fast, very geeky, and on first and second site already complete, but when yo take a close look you will see one or two rough edges (for example the scrollbar in contacts. i had it customized, but packaged the wrong version of the theme). getting to know how to work with edj probably takes 2 days, because it is very intuitive code and mostly you just need common sense. there are some tricky hings though (for example if gui elements are translucent where they need to be solig you will get garbage on teh screen (take a look at the keyboard design of the nEo theme) br ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
TangoGPS Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon
How is this error remedied: (gconftool-2:1820): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed. Error setting value: No D-BUS daemon running r...@om-gta02:~# Tried big gconftool-2 line: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TangoGPS#pre-load_for_offline_use /Glenn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of Sã o Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 05:28:01PM +0100, Álvaro Lopes wrote: Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: I certainly see the university as sponsors of the project, in the fact that it does cost money to run such an SMT line, to do some of the legal work, etc. I would like to find a way to help compensate them for this work, to make the project truly self-sustaining. Dr. Zuffo and I have discussed government grants and other funding ideas. Please see below. Government will also want some return. I don't see clearly (yet) how a project like ours can give them that (like OLPC and portuguese's Magalhães). A phone that's more difficult to sneak spyware into than a closed one such as an IPhone or Blackberry. How do you know it isn't secretly being wiretapped? How do you *know*? With open hardware, there are no secret power supplies or audio inputs to the GSM/UMTS chip. With open hardware, you also decide what software to run on it, such as to deselect back doors, or implement encrypted conversation over GSM data calls, which AFAIK isn't available in any of the closed phones. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps : updating ti...@home - tah.openstreetmap.org
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 02:59:23PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tile_usage_policy It uses the words draft policy and work-in-progress. With emphasis. tah.openstreetmap.org lets you download all you want, but it does not support md5sums so you cannot use yaouh. You say it as if those md5sums are a feature while in fact modification dates are just as easy to work with and much more widely supported. Fortunately, tah.openstreetmap.org supports If-Modified-Since: in requests and reports Last-Modified: in responses. Tiles from tah.openstreetmap.org can therefore be updated with your favourite HTTP mirroring tool. Example[1] using wget: $ cd /usr/local/share/maptiles/tah.openstreetmap.org $ find Tiles -type f | \ wget -i - -B http://tah.openstreetmap.org/ -x -nH -N -nv This is the directory structure under tah.openstreetmap.org: $ find Tiles -type f [...] Tiles/tile/9/273/160.png With tah.openstreetmap.org, you don't need yaouh! or similar tools. Plusses to the people behind tah.openstreetmap.org for having a clue. [1] I intended to simplify it to $ cd /usr/local/share/maptiles $ find tah.openstreetmap.org -type f | wget -i - -B http:// -x -N -nv but there's a silly little bug in wget when using -i and -B together: -: Invalid URL http:///tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile/9/273/160.png: Invalid host name -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPIMD: List of available attributes documented?
Also when adding phone number that's good to prefix it with 'tel:', and 'mail:' with e-mails. Could someone add what I wrote here to wiki somewhere? :) i added it into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opimd why would one want to prefix numbers and emails in fields and then parse it away again? besides that tel: means nothing in english really... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] Not recieving all sms
Am Samstag, 1. August 2009 00:15:00 schrieb Alexander Syring: Hi I have a problem with x5 friends of mine send me a sms and the status report came for they that the sms was recieved but my phone won't show the sms, In the logs I read I have 10 sms on my card but they won't be load off. How could I read the sms? Greetings Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community So sorry for my late answer I was in holiday so all the sms was recieved after changing to flight mode I don't know why and then I recieved all the second time I canged from flight-mode to normal mode. I think the problem is that the phone doesn't wake up on sms. If the phone is online I get all sms directly. But if the phone is in power safe the sms stay on sim and messages doesn't call them Geetings Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPIMD: List of available attributes documented?
On 8/5/09, Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
I am currently on the way of implementing OPIMD Contacts Domain
integration in our PIM synchronization tool PISI.
After having all the connectivity bits and pieces in place, it would be
helpful to have an
** up-to-date list of attributes / fields **
, which are supported in OPIMD (especially in SHR-Contacts). All I could
find is this out-dated list:
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob_plain;f=framework/subsystems/opimd/docs/contact_fields.txt;hb=master
Any idea, where I can get more recent information from?
thx in advance,
Mike
opimd supports every field - you can add to contact whatever you want.
SHR doesn't use opimd interface yet, but that's how I implemented some
standard fields in my opimd-contacts (and as i'm opimd developer, I
think it's safe to say they are prefered names for every opimd based
app):
Name, Surname, Phone, Whatever* phone, E-mail, Work e-mail, Home
e-mail, Whatever* e-mail
* - Replace whatever with phone/mail type (Work, Home etc.)
Every field can have multiple values, except Name field. If you want
to add two phones without type, just use array {'Name' : 'Someone',
'Phone' : ['tel:+4864324', 'tel:+3475345'], 'E-mail' : 'd...@shr.com'}
Also when adding phone number that's good to prefix it with 'tel:',
and 'mail:' with e-mails.
Could someone add what I wrote here to wiki somewhere? :)
--
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
dos
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Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development
Rask, Government will also want some return. I don't see clearly (yet) how a project like ours can give them that (like OLPC and portuguese's Magalhães). A phone that's more difficult to sneak spyware into than a closed one such as an IPhone or Blackberry. How do you know it isn't secretly being wiretapped? How do you *know*? With open hardware, there are no secret power supplies or audio inputs to the GSM/UMTS chip. With open hardware, you also decide what software to run on it, such as to deselect back doors, or implement encrypted conversation over GSM data calls, which AFAIK isn't available in any of the closed phones. All of what you said is true. On the other hand, perhaps the twelfth largest economy (and the sixth largest user of cell phones) http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0933605.html [Note that the European Union is counted as a country] would just like the chance to have its largest university (and their students) participate in designing an open phone that could be freely licensed and manufactured by any one of its high-tech companies. A basic phone design that could be changed to meet various needs in the country. Manufacturing jobs? Werner is in contact with the professor, working on the logistics of GTA02-core. I am working (in my copious spare time...yeah, right) on a plan for financing. We are moving forward. md ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPIMD: List of available attributes documented?
2009/8/5 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com opimd supports every field - you can add to contact whatever you want. Isn't the data supposed to be shared across different clients? If yes, then this should be part of the standard. Of course if I want to add dog-name and cat-name then why not, but fields like Phone, Name, Sender, etc. should be specified at docs.freesmartphone.org. And the 'Phone' : 'tel: +xxx' thing doesn't make sense, I understand it's a temporary situation. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [all] call for support: edje guru needed
if there finally is a theme suite where no elements from the default theme shines through i'd like some real edje guru to overview it and tell me where the really ugly parts are. I'm interested in looking into this (and will), but I needed to say: I was wary of the nEo theme at first; I didn't like how it looked on the browser, but when I installed it I loved how it looked and felt. Even my non-geek friends were pretty impressed. I noticed a problem with colors though, but I'm not yet sure which element of the theme created it. Basically, some applications (such as neote and SHR's new wifi thingy) text fields become white on white which makes the text unreadable. If I have time in the next few days, I'll look into this. Thanks! Russell Dwiggins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPIMD: List of available attributes documented?
On 8/5/09, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2009/8/5 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com opimd supports every field - you can add to contact whatever you want. Isn't the data supposed to be shared across different clients? If yes, then this should be part of the standard. Of course if I want to add dog-name and cat-name then why not, but fields like Phone, Name, Sender, etc. should be specified at docs.freesmartphone.org. I agree. So someone should do it :P And the 'Phone' : 'tel: +xxx' thing doesn't make sense, I understand it's a temporary situation. tel: was before I started to work on opimd, i think it's good idea (but maybe it shouldn't be tel:, but something else). This way you could have for instance voip:d...@shr.com, skype:dos or something else. But of course it would be nice to discuss it with FSO guys. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] call for support: edje guru needed
Russell Dwiggins schrieb: if there finally is a theme suite where no elements from the default theme shines through i'd like some real edje guru to overview it and tell me where the really ugly parts are. I'm interested in looking into this (and will), but I needed to say: I was wary of the nEo theme at first; I didn't like how it looked on the browser, but when I installed it I loved how it looked and felt. Even my non-geek friends were pretty impressed. I noticed a problem with colors though, but I'm not yet sure which element of the theme created it. Basically, some applications (such as neote and SHR's new wifi thingy) text fields become white on white which makes the text unreadable. this is fixed in teh new version which is available on opkg.org (where you can now additionally find gtk theme gpe icontheme gtk icontheme(included in icontheme)) If I have time in the next few days, I'll look into this. Thanks! Russell Dwiggins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development
2009/8/5 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org: Rask, Government will also want some return. I don't see clearly (yet) how a project like ours can give them that (like OLPC and portuguese's Magalhães). A phone that's more difficult to sneak spyware into than a closed one such as an IPhone or Blackberry. How do you know it isn't secretly being wiretapped? How do you *know*? With open hardware, there are no secret power supplies or audio inputs to the GSM/UMTS chip. With open hardware, you also decide what software to run on it, such as to deselect back doors, or implement encrypted conversation over GSM data calls, which AFAIK isn't available in any of the closed phones. All of what you said is true. On the other hand, perhaps the twelfth largest economy (and the sixth largest user of cell phones) http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0933605.html [Note that the European Union is counted as a country] would just like the chance to have its largest university (and their students) participate in designing an open phone that could be freely licensed and manufactured by any one of its high-tech companies. A basic phone design that could be changed to meet various needs in the country. Manufacturing jobs? Werner is in contact with the professor, working on the logistics of GTA02-core. I am working (in my copious spare time...yeah, right) on a plan for financing. We are moving forward. md ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Good to know :) -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] call for support: edje guru needed
sorry for follow up. this gui element was called pager. and yes it sucked bigtime in the previous version of the theme. it is fixed now Russell Dwiggins schrieb: if there finally is a theme suite where no elements from the default theme shines through i'd like some real edje guru to overview it and tell me where the really ugly parts are. I'm interested in looking into this (and will), but I needed to say: I was wary of the nEo theme at first; I didn't like how it looked on the browser, but when I installed it I loved how it looked and felt. Even my non-geek friends were pretty impressed. I noticed a problem with colors though, but I'm not yet sure which element of the theme created it. Basically, some applications (such as neote and SHR's new wifi thingy) text fields become white on white which makes the text unreadable. If I have time in the next few days, I'll look into this. Thanks! Russell Dwiggins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] new images v6 - problems over problems.
Radek Polak wrote: Hi, i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images. You can download as usually from http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/ MD5 sums: 55cae339a3bbd714cc98f8d057b82014 qtmoko-debian-v6.jffs2 d49dcd64f34e0675874a4bd4f73af79c qtmoko-debian-v6.tar.gz f64f5ff2e7dad0202e7cb69d263d006d uImage-v6.bin Changes from previous version: * wifi should work * alarm should work (only first alarm after boot, second probably wont ring) * greatly improved boot speed (can be even more sped up if you replace bash with dash) * fixed blinking cursor after app in QX ended up * SSH and other services are starting after Qtopia is up (so you have to wait some time before you can ssh to neo) I hope that no regression crept in and i'd recommend this version. There are still problems with long SMS and contacts import. It will take some time because my holidays end up today and i will be probably busy for some time. Anyway, enjoy images Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hello, QTMoko doesnt seem to make it for me. although it feels like a phone, it is totally unreliable. it's totally freezing occassionally, which led me twice to a broken file system, which the fsck at startup didnt fix (it wanted to reboot after fsck, but then i got a nice kernel panic). Luckily i'm still having SHR on my phone, to run a file system check over the partition of Qtmoko. This worked flawlessly once, once after i rebooted then, all my settings were gone. the messages application wouldnt startup anymore, the clock was shown all the time. i then accidently clicked on Games in the menu, which led the phone to lock up again. Once the file system was that much damaged, that qtmoko left me with a nice terminal login screen at init2. what to do if you got this in the middle of nowhere, only coz ur phone locked up?! this mainly happened, when i was setting up the email account via wifi. (actually that's been the only advanced task i did with qtmok yet, so this isn't essentially caused by the email programm. once this happened when i was doing something else with various programms) Once this happened, when the emails from imap were being received, and i thought, ok, cool, now lets try to click New to compose an e-mail. Phone crashed. Note, that i still could ping the phone. Once this happened after i eventually received all the imap emails, and scrolled on the top of the list. The screen started to flicker like hell (all i saw was a turquoise screen, flickering a bit. there was NOTHING visible from the menu i've been before). Only reboot through pressing the power button for 8 seconds worked. (missed to do a video of this, i'll do when it happens again.) Things like these happened earlier these days with qtmoko, when i even had to pull the battery to get the phone up running again. Note that i tried QTmoko first when v5 got released, which happened a few days ago. i never actually got beyond the configuration phase. the phone just crashed then. i first thought, that this may be caused by full ram (b/c this freeze up happened in SHR as well 1 or 2 times). today i bought this 2 gb SD card, made a swap partition 270 mb large and installed qtmoko v6 on the remaining 1,7 GB partition. So full diskspace/RAM/Swap is quite unlikely. Any hints on how to go on, or by what these problems my be caused? As much as i like qtmoko with its polished email, messages, phonebook and phonefeeling, that is just not acceptable for me. i'm happy that the FR isn't my primary phone yet, so i dont have to rely on it too much at the moment and can play around with such flaws. For now i am back to SHR though... Thanks for your help. i'm off to bed. Good night. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QtMoko--new-images-v6-tp3385796p3395174.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 22:28:20 Glenn Moeller-Holst wrote: How is this error remedied: (gconftool-2:1820): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed. Error setting value: No D-BUS daemon running r...@om-gta02:~# Encapsulate this in dbus-launch. We do not compile in X11 atom support for dbus session bus address. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Openmoko development
Great progress, thanks for the update. There's one thing I'm wondering about though... all of these activities seem to surround free hardware. While that's great, I wonder whether there are any plans to support the development of software as well? Cheers, :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:06:11PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Nathan Kinkade n...@nkinka.de writes: I'm not really sure where to go from here, especially since Navit isn't producing any errors. I've been looking through the output of an strace on Navit, but nothing has jumped out at me yet. The problem is that the configuration file of navit pretty much describes what you have in the UI. And navit gets developed so fast that old configuration files can cease to work in upgrade. Yesterday evenving I started wondering whether it all had something to do with the fact that the planet.bin file was located on microSD card. So I downloaded a tiny map of the area where I live and stick it in the flash memory and it worked. I then downloaded the latest planet.bin from the Navit project site and loaded that onto my microSD card and it worked. I was surprised. Maybe my old planet.bin files was corrupt? I was sure that it wasn't because a few days earlier it didn't work, and somehow installing a newer build of Navit from the Navit site make it start working. So the old file didn't work, then it worked, then suddenly it stopped working. Maybe it was just corrupt?? Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development
2009/8/6 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de: Great progress, thanks for the update. There's one thing I'm wondering about though... all of these activities seem to surround free hardware. While that's great, I wonder whether there are any plans to support the development of software as well? Cheers, :M: AFAIK, USP has offer at least insfrastutructure (list, servers...) for software projects ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development
2009/8/6 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com: 2009/8/6 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de: Great progress, thanks for the update. There's one thing I'm wondering about though... all of these activities seem to surround free hardware. While that's great, I wonder whether there are any plans to support the development of software as well? Cheers, :M: AFAIK, USP has offer at least insfrastutructure (list, servers...) for software projects ..hum.. so many tructucutu, the just offer infrastructure ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Hi, jeremy jozwik wrote: Downloading http://intone.googlecode.com/files/intone_0.62_arm.ipk worked! Well, the nabble list links are what I'd changed. They now point to ipks with OM and SHR suffixed to their names. Sorry for the mixup though. I'm planning on streamlining the releases/wiki/issues/wishlists by learning all that I can do on googlecode. As someone had pointed out - I do need all things in one place. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0.62-release-tp3376283p3396061.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] Not recieving all sms
Sound Freedom wrote: sorry, but how to enabled This kind of logging ? Go to Setting-Logging-Options-Categories and check Modem AT communication. The messages go to /var/log/messages IIRC. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
