Re: [shr-u] Executing commands on USB insertion/removal?

2009-08-19 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Use /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml. You should be able to use usb insertion event as input device. Thank you, I'll look into it. But meantime I realized my script only needed to know whether the USB

Packaging of Python Programs (was Re: PISI 0.4 released)

2009-08-19 Thread Michael Pilgermann
Hi all, since I am getting a bit confused about this topic, I thought I start a small discussion on it. Background was our sync app PISI (written in Python), which we now tried to include in distributions (here SHR) using BB files. Martin was kind enough to prepare a first draft of the bb

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-19 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] DAEMON_OPTS=-S localhost:gpsd -P $PIDFILE r...@om-gta02 ~ $ fso-gpsd -? [...] -S integer (default 2947) Set port for daemon [...] so you could provide just -S gpsd so daemon listen an all IPs... -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538

Re: [debian] navit: how good is the debian package?

2009-08-19 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] Since than i always compile navit myself from source directly on my freerunner (thanks to all the gcc tools in debian for freerunner). It compiles about half an hour but i can use every compile switch i like and it always runs quite fast. At the moment i think this is the best way for a

Re: [debian] navit: how good is the debian package?

2009-08-19 Thread arne anka
I install navit as package from this feed: as stated in the subject, i use debian, no feeds or ipk. http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/ Maybe you could improve ipks compiled on this server, by telling them which switches makes it faster on FR? i think, i posted them a

Paroli : migrating SIM contacts

2009-08-19 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Hi folks, I use Om2009/fso/paroli as my daily phone, and today I need to migrate from my old SIM card to a new one. And of course I want to keep my contacts. What I have : - old SIM card with contacts (currently in my FR), but some are shorten (like a too long filename in MsDOS) probably

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Tilman Baumann
Gerald A wrote: Hi, Looking at my Neo this morning, I noticed that it looked like the case wasn't put back on straight. My GTA01 Battery was always a bit bulgy from the beginning. If you feel it has become worse quickly, be afraid. :) -- MFG Tilman Baumann

Re: Paroli : migrating SIM contacts

2009-08-19 Thread Michael Pilgermann
Hi Xavier, generally speaking, you could use PISI (http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html) for this problem. Although, we developed and tested PISI on SHR. So, I do not know, whether it is running on Om 2009 as well? (Any experiences from anybody??) If it is running: You could take a copy of

Re: Paroli : migrating SIM contacts

2009-08-19 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Michael Pilgermannkichka...@gmx.de wrote: The Paroli numbers are not yet visible to PISI; unless Paroli makes use of OPIMD??? But that would be new to me ... Paroli uses cPickle python fileformat mainly for *performance reason*, to start faster. You can find

Re: Packaging of Python Programs (was Re: PISI 0.4 released)

2009-08-19 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
*** Should we really install a Python application as a site-package?? *** Setuptools (and whatever similar stuff is out there for Python packaging) is a very good tool to assemble and distribute Python site-packages (so to say Python libraries) - stuff, that extends Python by some additional

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-19 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:17:49AM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: morning all. i was just sitting here on my debian laptop, poking around with tango gps. now my laptop does not have any sort of gps so i get the no gps found deal at the bottom. that got me thinking, has anyone setup there

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-19 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:52:41PM +0200, arne anka wrote: a quick glance over /etc/init.dfso-gpsd did not reveal an easy way to change that. a glance a tad slower shows the line DAEMON_OPTS=-S localhost:gpsd -P $PIDFILE change localhost to 192.168.0.202 and the gpsd is available from

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-19 Thread arne anka
And not from e.g. a local TangoGPS. that wasn't the question. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-19 Thread Werner Almesberger
Dan Staley wrote: The glamo.useful? If this work continues...perhaps a rethink of gta02-core is in order?! Hmm, I doubt it :) Use one bitmap that's not cached in Glamo memory and you're back to watching the same old paint dry again. So I still think gta02-core will run circles around

Re: Elementary documentation

2009-08-19 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: Can you show me a complete mini-example, please? I have a bit of trouble myself how evas, edje, elementary are related to each other. In paroli every root window is a elementary.Window, and we attache to this window

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-19 Thread Thomas White
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:38:12 +1000 Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: I haven't seen anyone else post about this yet, but this looks really neat! (Found via Planet Ubuntu) http://losca.blogspot.com/2009/08/kernel-mode-setting-kms-on-neo.html Thanks to everyone for the encouragement!

Re: Elementary documentation

2009-08-19 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: (there are some problems with images, but they aren't as important as code and description :P) How could we recover the images? Did somebody saved the page? The images was very helpful on that page. Laszlo

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-19 Thread Martin Jansa
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:01:53PM +0100, Thomas White wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:38:12 +1000 Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: I haven't seen anyone else post about this yet, but this looks really neat! (Found via Planet Ubuntu)

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Daniel.Li
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 00:14 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Gerald A geraldabli...@gmail.com writes: Looking at my Neo this morning, I noticed that it looked like the case wasn't put back on straight. I removed the back to find the battery is slightly bulging. I'm assuming this isn't a good

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
Which IRC? do u have any address for IRC channel? freenode, #openmoko, #openmoko-cdevel -- Adolph J. Vogel BEng(Hons) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Elementary documentation

2009-08-19 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:58:01PM +0200, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hope it helps something. Would be nice, to have some clean example how to mix elementary, edje and evas canvas Even though I don't have good python basics, I think it may help me make one C test program from root. I guess I'll

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
BL-5C can't be charged with GTA02. I presume you mean GTA01, right? My GTA02 has no trouble charging my BL-5C. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: buzzfix in Switzerland?

2009-08-19 Thread steve
Le 17-08-2009, à 11:38:06 +0200, Patryk Benderz (patryk.bend...@esp.pl) a écrit : Any pointers would be great. http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework Thanks. But it seems that they don't do it for Swiss and Norwegian people... Other pointers? thanks in advance, steve

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Daniel.Li
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 09:50 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: BL-5C can't be charged with GTA02. I presume you mean GTA01, right? My GTA02 has no trouble charging my BL-5C. Really? I bought BL-5C compatible battery month ago, and it can't be charged with GTA02. I also remove BL-5C from Nokia

RE: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-19 Thread Niels Heyvaert
Hi Rask, Perhaps you can also point Jeremy to this easy, one-click search of all months archives for the Openmoko lists... Where would one find that? Niels. -- Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house. Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 16:14:18 Daniel.Li wrote: I bought BL-5C compatible battery month ago, and it can't be charged with GTA02. I also remove BL-5C from Nokia phone, and GTA02 still can't charge this battery. And previous discussion tells that GTA02 can just charge battery with

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Paul Fertser
Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com writes: On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 00:14 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Gerald A geraldabli...@gmail.com writes: Looking at my Neo this morning, I noticed that it looked like the case wasn't put back on straight. I removed the back to find the battery is slightly

Re: Enhancing launcher - feedback

2009-08-19 Thread Steven **
The notifications stuff makes sense, as it is definitely needed(although preferably integrated with Illume instead of standalone). But what is the motivation for writing another set of phone apps? And why as part of launcher (and not standalone apps)? -Steven On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25 PM,

Re: [Shr-User] Several (probably basic) wifi questions from an OM noob

2009-08-19 Thread Dan Staley
From the bottom of: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources Example command (works for open, WEP and WPA/WPA2 networks, automatically determining the network it can connect to, just add all the networks you use to the config): fsoraw -r WiFi -- wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -Dwext

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
BL-5C can't be charged with GTA02. I presume you mean GTA01, right? My GTA02 has no trouble charging my BL-5C. Really? Yes. I bought BL-5C compatible battery month ago, and it can't be charged with GTA02. I also remove BL-5C from Nokia phone, and GTA02 still can't charge this battery.

Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?

2009-08-19 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Niels Heyvaertnielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote: Perhaps you can also point Jeremy to this easy, one-click search of all months archives for the Openmoko lists... your such a sweet heart. dont open it or respond to it if it causes you such a headache. sorry,

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/19/09, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 09:50 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: BL-5C can't be charged with GTA02. I presume you mean GTA01, right? My GTA02 has no trouble charging my BL-5C. Really? I bought BL-5C compatible battery month ago, and it can't be

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-19 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/19/09, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:01:53PM +0100, Thomas White wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:38:12 +1000 Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: I haven't seen anyone else post about this yet, but this looks really neat! (Found via Planet

[SHR-U] GSM and GPRS Problems

2009-08-19 Thread Michele Brocco
Since the latest troubles with fsousaged in FSO I am having problems with gsm and gprs. When I reboot I can enter my pin and everything works fine. After it, I start gprs through the shr-settings gui, and in contrast to what was happening before the last updates, the gui does not show if the gprs

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Gerald A
Hi, On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:31 PM, RANJAN infi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if there are any approved replacement batteries, or if Openmoko sells the originals. BL-C5A (name might be jumbled up but a Nokia battery did work for me.) I'm guessing then that the resellers don't

Re: [SHR-U] GSM and GPRS Problems

2009-08-19 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/19/09, Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com wrote: Since the latest troubles with fsousaged in FSO I am having problems with gsm and gprs. When I reboot I can enter my pin and everything works fine. After it, I start gprs through the shr-settings gui, and in contrast to what was happening

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/19 Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com: I'm using this driver for some time and it behaves realy good. I didn't even noticed any garbled text or artifacts, which is great for this state of development :). You are probably talking about the non-KMS, normal xf86-video-glamo? It's been

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-19 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/19 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk Anyone brave enough to test it is more than welcome. Sure, I'd like to test it. Any instructions on how to install it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-19 Thread Martin Jansa
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:27:30PM +0300, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2009/8/19 Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com: I'm using this driver for some time and it behaves realy good. I didn't even noticed any garbled text or artifacts, which is great for this state of development :). You are

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Paul Fertser
Gerald A geraldabli...@gmail.com writes: Would a battery from a Freerunner/GTA02 work in my neo? Only with software tweaks i'm yet to try to provide a good method to perform. The same story as with BL-5C. And you won't gain much, BL-6C is 1150 and GTA02 battery is 1200, imho not worth it. --

Re: [Shr-User] Several (probably basic) wifi questions from an OM noob

2009-08-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.com writes: To keep wifi useable, due to bug still present currently (2009-08-18) you need to also do: rmmod ar6000 modprobe ar6000 Which bug is this exactly? #2277 Wireless does not work with the 2.6.29 kernel http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2277 ?

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-19 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Maybe this might be possible in some future of Openmoko Linux? Yes and no. Of course and not. :-) Depends on what your definition of cold boot is. There are trade-offs here, as always. As I understand it, the read-only text of the kernel was in ROM (could have been Flash), so did not have to

Re: One (or ten) second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-19 Thread Glenn
At 16:01 -0400 19/08/09, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: Maybe this might be possible in some future of Openmoko Linux? Yes and no. Of course and not. :-) Depends on what your definition of cold boot is. ... Warmest regards, md Hi Jon 10 seconds would do ;-) Might be done by booting from a

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-19 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 04:01:29PM -0400, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: make the battery last longer in normal running mode, suspend and deep suspend, rather than shortening the (hopefully) once per year boot cycle. Once per year? :) Up until recently was once per day (minimum), but since 8-8's

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-19 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Once per year? :) Up until recently was once per day (minimum), but since 8-8's SHR-U I haven't returned to that sad average! /* gentle rant on Which is *exactly* my point. I have a friend of mine who's multi-user Linux system was recently up for thirty days before a power failure caused it to

Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect

2009-08-19 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Sonntag, den 16.08.2009, 21:00 +0200 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen: What little I've seen of that code does not look promising. The author didn't understand the netif_stop_queue()/netif_wake_queue() calls, so who knows what else might have gone wrong? Someone needs to sit down with the

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Daniel.Li
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 18:38 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com writes: On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 00:14 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Gerald A geraldabli...@gmail.com writes: Looking at my Neo this morning, I noticed that it looked like the case wasn't put back on straight.

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Daniel.Li
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 18:38 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: I'll try to come up with a patch to make it work. Good. I'm trying to fix it, but I don't have much experience. Is there any references available for me to study? To fix what? Do you have gta01? Sorry, I don't have gta01, I

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-19 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/8/20 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org: I have a friend of mine who's multi-user Linux system was recently up for thirty days before a power failure caused it to go down. I had a Digital Unix system on my desk up for an entire year without rebooting. We had cases of VAX/Ultrix systems up

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread Paul Fertser
Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com writes: BL-5C can't be charged with GTA02. That's just plain wrong! GTA02 has _zero_ problems charging BL-4/5/6C. Please read the battery QA [1]. We have a discussion month ago, and found that FR (GTA02) can't charge BL-5C, see below link.

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-19 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
i've never understood the fascination of linux users with keeping systems up for days and months on end. sure, it's great for a server hosting web sites, or in a corporate environment, but for a home system? it comes across as nothing more than who's the most '1337', which is really lame. add to

Re: Replacement battery for GTA01/Neo

2009-08-19 Thread William Kenworthy
err, which version? - I did a make update, built and upgraded yesterday (shr-u) and its not there (though the new pin dialog is - Yeah!) or is it only visible on a non-gta02 battery? BillK On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 17:32 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/19/09, Daniel.Li

Re: Enhancing launcher - feedback

2009-08-19 Thread c_c
Hi, Steven ** wrote: But what is the motivation for writing another set of phone apps? And why as part of launcher (and not standalone apps)? Well, Illume is perhaps the best way of going about for the notifications and categories, which makes Launcher just an interim solution till that

Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-19 Thread c_c
Hi, I would look for a decent middle path. A reasonable boot time, perhaps 30 secs to fully usable, and charging required in say 3 days of some measure of activity assumed to be normal (we could define something as a benchmark). And for a hell of a lot more smarts from a 'smart'phone. How

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/19, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com: I'm using this driver for some time and it behaves realy good. I didn't even noticed any garbled text or artifacts, which is great for this state of development :). You are probably talking about the non-KMS, normal xf86-video-glamo? No

Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/20, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: As for those asking for instructions: I built the kernel branch [1] with the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain instructions. Forgot to note: config is arch/arm/configs/gta02_drm_defconfig. -Timo

Re: Re: One second Openmoko boot?

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Mogensen
Robin Paulson wrote: i've never understood the fascination of linux users with keeping systems up for days and months on end. sure, it's great for a server hosting web sites, or in a corporate environment, but for a home system? it comes across as nothing more than who's the most '1337',