[SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are available 
from this repository:

http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip

The layouts each have keys as large as I can make them. I found the existing 
layouts to be of little use without a stylus.

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Re: Performance of the accelerometer on FR

2009-10-10 Thread Aditya Gandhi
Thanks ... will check it out for sure

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM, RANJAN infi...@gmail.com wrote:




 Hi ranjan, I would like to have a look at your source code and try to
 figure out what needs to be done to Increase the performance. Can you tell
 me where can I look for the code, or can you mail me the code.
 What software have you used on the PC to make a graph??

 Use OpenGl with some commands to read the serial port data. (see MSDN
 documentation if on windows).See wiki for accelerometer code.




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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/10/10 Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au:
 I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are 
 available from this repository:

 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip

 The layouts each have keys as large as I can make them. I found the existing 
 layouts to be of little use without a stylus.


could you post some screenshots?

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:22:31 +1300
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/10/10 Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au:
  I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are 
  available from this repository:
 
  http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip
 
  The layouts each have keys as large as I can make them. I found the 
  existing layouts to be of little use without a stylus.
 
 
 could you post some screenshots?

Yes.
http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/alpha.png

http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/numeric.png

(memo to self. After exporting display to moko to run xwd don't just start gimp 
from the same terminal without resetting display).
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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Aditya Gandhi
I loved it

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au
 wrote:

 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:22:31 +1300
 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

  2009/10/10 Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au:
   I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are
 available from this repository:
  
  
 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip
  
   The layouts each have keys as large as I can make them. I found the
 existing layouts to be of little use without a stylus.
  
 
  could you post some screenshots?

 Yes.

 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/alpha.png


 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/numeric.png

 (memo to self. After exporting display to moko to run xwd don't just start
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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Adolph J. Vogel

  could you post some screenshots?

 Yes.
 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-ke
yboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/alpha.png

 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-ke
yboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/numeric.png


Nooo!, where is the qwerty? :D

on a more serious note, the qwerty layout is sufficiently imprinted in my 
mussle memory that any other layout is a deal breaker. (The same goes for 
navit)

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Aditya Gandhi
Can we edit it to make it qwerty??
Wouldn't that difficult!!

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote:


   could you post some screenshots?
 
  Yes.
 
 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-ke
 yboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/alpha.png
 
 
 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-ke
 yboards/raw-file/b9c36e67f27f/numeric.png
 

 Nooo!, where is the qwerty? :D

 on a more serious note, the qwerty layout is sufficiently imprinted in my
 mussle memory that any other layout is a deal breaker. (The same goes for
 navit)

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:20:00 +0530
Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote:

 I loved it

Thanks for your comments. Two more screenshots showing the shifted state:

http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/tip/alpha_shifted.png

http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/tip/numeric_shifted.png

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:57:07 +0200
Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote:

 Nooo!, where is the qwerty? :D
 
 on a more serious note, the qwerty layout is sufficiently imprinted in my 
 mussle memory that any other layout is a deal breaker. (The same goes for 
 navit)

Be thankful I didn't go for AZERTY ;)

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Pieter Colpaert
openmoko-life seems so much easier with a guitarplayer's thumbnail ^^

On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 17:24 +1100, Michael Smith wrote:
 I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are 
 available from this repository:
 
 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip
 
 The layouts each have keys as large as I can make them. I found the existing 
 layouts to be of little use without a stylus.
 
 Regards,


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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread pike
Hi

 I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They
 are  available from this repository:

http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip

The picture is a 1000 words.
http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/8ae977b23a1c/alpha.png

Very nice. I want it. I guess I'll try
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume_keyboard#How_to_install_a_new_layout

thanks!
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[SHR-U latest] Sketch Book missing images

2009-10-10 Thread Tony Berth
when trying to start Sketch Book in the latest SHR I get some errors due to
missing images/icons in png format! Is any place I could download these
files?

Thanks

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
I dont know much about the illume keyboard, but do the keys have to be square?


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Re: [SHR-U latest] Sketch Book missing images

2009-10-10 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 10/10/09, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote:
 when trying to start Sketch Book in the latest SHR I get some errors due to
 missing images/icons in png format! Is any place I could download these
 files?

 Thanks

 Tony


opkg install gpe-icons.

Or upgrade. It should be already fixed.

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Re: evopedia 0.2.3 release

2009-10-10 Thread Christian
Robin Paulson schrieb:
 2009/10/9 Christian christ...@exinto.de:
 The following dump languages are available at the moment:
 Dutch, French, German, Italian, Polish and Spanish.
 
 could you supply the code used to create the dumps? i realise your
 reticence to create the english dump (i assume size?) - i would be
 interested in creating my own though

I have put the source for the modified mediawiki and the dump scripts as
branches in http://github.com/crei/evopedia/. Please do not hesitate to
ask me if you do not get it runnung. I have not yet created an english
dump mainly because it would take so long, although I am sure that the
dump process can be improved.

Kind regards,
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[SHR-U latest] removing mplayer icon

2009-10-10 Thread Tony Berth
how is it possible to remove the mplayer icon from the desktop?

Thanks

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:58:22 +0200
Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote:

 I dont know much about the illume keyboard, but do the keys have to be square?
 
No. They just have to be rectangular. Each key has x,y,w,h specified in the kbd 
file. I had no trouble with these formats. The kbd files are easy to work with.
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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
On Saturday 10 October 2009 13:27:55 Michael Smith wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:58:22 +0200

 Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote:
  I dont know much about the illume keyboard, but do the keys have to be
  square?

 No. They just have to be rectangular. Each key has x,y,w,h specified in the
 kbd file. I had no trouble with these formats. The kbd files are easy to
 work with.

:( Rectangular, wont work for what I hand in mind.

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:37:53 +0200
Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote:

 On Saturday 10 October 2009 13:27:55 Michael Smith wrote:
  On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:58:22 +0200
 
  Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote:
   I dont know much about the illume keyboard, but do the keys have to be
   square?
 
  No. They just have to be rectangular. Each key has x,y,w,h specified in the
  kbd file. I had no trouble with these formats. The kbd files are easy to
  work with.
 
 :( Rectangular, wont work for what I hand in mind.

Were you thinking about meshed triangular keys? Maybe you should ask the 
Enlightenment people about that. I have just adapted the existing layouts using 
information on the wiki page. I am sure there are some tricks there which I 
don't know about.
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Waterproof bag

2009-10-10 Thread Christian Rüb
Hi,

has anyone tried one of the waterproof (5m) bags from Aquapac?
Is the mini [1] sufficient or is it too tight and it would be better to use 
medium [2]?

Thanks for your replies.

Cheers,
 Christian

[1] 
http://www.aquapac.net/ukstore/mini-waterproof-phone-case-br-code-104-1119-0.html
[2] 
http://www.aquapac.net/ukstore/medium-waterproof-phone-case-br-code-124-1120-0.html

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Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??

2009-10-10 Thread Aditya Gandhi
Ordered atmega128  at80usb32 samples from atmel for the usb joystick, and
the robot.
Have already planned to buy a webcam and make it work with linux and start
with basic image processing

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just one more Idea, wanna know if already implimented or has a better
 alternative, A full qwerty keyborad in landscape mode.

 Here we could use it for sms maybe, similar to fatfingershell, use its
 keyboard behind a normal sms screen in the background and type the msg with
 hands while loving to do so

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
On Saturday 10 October 2009 13:56:19 Michael Smith wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:37:53 +0200

 Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote:
  On Saturday 10 October 2009 13:27:55 Michael Smith wrote:
   On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:58:22 +0200
  
   Adolph J. Vogel ajvo...@tuks.co.za wrote:
I dont know much about the illume keyboard, but do the keys have to
be square?
  
   No. They just have to be rectangular. Each key has x,y,w,h specified in
   the kbd file. I had no trouble with these formats. The kbd files are
   easy to work with.
  
  :( Rectangular, wont work for what I hand in mind.

 Were you thinking about meshed triangular keys? Maybe you should ask the
 Enlightenment people about that. I have just adapted the existing layouts
 using information on the wiki page. I am sure there are some tricks there
 which I don't know about.

It doesn`t have to be triangular, but some shape that could be meshed would 
work. Circular probably best. But alas...

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Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?

2009-10-10 Thread Jakob
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Michael Smith
michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote:
 I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it 
 on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode.

 Any suggestions?

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You could use the screen rotating function under wrench -- screen --
screen resolution. It's not very comfortable to acess but it's already
built in.

Jake

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Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:10:05 +0200
Jakob jackram...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Michael Smith
 michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote:
  I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using it 
  on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode.
 
  Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks.
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 You could use the screen rotating function under wrench -- screen --
 screen resolution. It's not very comfortable to acess but it's already
 built in.

Thats what I was looking for. I just didn't expect to find it under 
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Re: Waterproof bag

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Sheldon
Hi Christian,

Christian Rüb wrote:
 has anyone tried one of the waterproof (5m) bags from Aquapac?
 Is the mini [1] sufficient or is it too tight and it would be better to use 
 medium [2]?

 Yes, I have one, the mini is too small (it almost fits, but not quite),
 luckily Aquapac let me exchange it for a medium which fits without any
problems (although there's a fair amount of excess space).

Cheers,
 Mike.

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Re: [SHR-U] How do you rotate the screen in SHR?

2009-10-10 Thread Jakob
On 10/10/09, Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:10:05 +0200
 Jakob jackram...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Michael Smith
 michael.sm...@netapps.com.au wrote:
  I want to use SHR in landscape mode. Several people have discussed using
  it on the list but it is not clear to me how enter landscape mode.
 
  Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks.
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 You could use the screen rotating function under wrench -- screen --
 screen resolution. It's not very comfortable to acess but it's already
 built in.

 Thats what I was looking for. I just didn't expect to find it under
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Yeah it's kinda hidden in the menu woods :D
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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread pike
Hi

 I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They
 are  available from this repository:

 Very nice. I want it. I guess I'll try
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume_keyboard#How_to_install_a_new_layout

That didn't work all that nice :-( Tried to
install them next to raster's keyboards, but
they appeared all empty. Then I replaced
rasters keyboard with these, but Enlightenment
segfaulted, had to restart, lost my ssh into
the brick and Enlightment wouldnt get back up
.. ouch .. anyway

The trick is, the files shouldnt
start with comments. I removed the first
4 lines (so it starts with ##KBDCONF-1.0)
and they work like a charm.

Can't really run them side by side with
Raster's, because the keyboard's canvas
sizes are different; apparently, enlightenment
chooses the canvas size of the first keyboard
it finds and sticks to that. I have them
all working now, but raster's keyboards
are swimming in a pool of empty greyness.

Great though - I'll stick to those.

thanks!
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RE: community Digest, Vol 152, Issue 14

2009-10-10 Thread flecktor


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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:52:48 +0200
Subject: Re: no wifi

* flecktor nahu...@cs.bgu.ac.il [07.10.2009 11:51]:
hi everyone,
 
about a year ago , someone wrote in that he had found a way to same more
energy from the battry by disabling the wifi, and added 2-3 commands that
do that.
 
i executed those commands, and now i want to re-enable the wifi again.
anyone could know what settings i changed?(silly me live in a mess and
don't remember).
 
thanks.
flecktor
 
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Frederik
hi frederik,
im sorry for not having the commands, i dont recall them at all. this is where 
the problem is at.
i know the defenitions are not in kernel nor jiffs image since i flashed the 
device since then and used other sd os.

anyone has an idea?
  
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RE: community Digest, Vol 152, Issue 30

2009-10-10 Thread flecktor

i think this is it:

http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1484094


In reply to this post
by Matthias Apitz



Hi,


I was able to disable/re-enable wifi with
following lines, I did however not have the time to check the impact on
battery life


# using Atheros wmiconfig command to disable wlan 

./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan disable



# To re-enable wlan:

./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan enable

# set re-association mode 0 :  do send disassoc when reassociation

./wmiconfig -i eth0 --setreassocmode 0

# now try to reconnect wlan using gui

iwlist eth0 scan 



Cheers,


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ill test it 

  
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Re: QtMoko v14

2009-10-10 Thread Vincent Meurisse
On Thursday 08 October 2009 16:44:12 Radek Polak wrote:
 In fact i dont know how much
 bandwidth is allowed on my (activationrecord.net) server so every mirror
 is welcome.
 
I set up a new mirror on my server : http://qtmoko.meurisse.org/dl/. Feel free 
to advertise it (I already updated the download page on the wiki)

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Re: [SHR-U latest] removing mplayer icon

2009-10-10 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote:
 how is it possible to remove the mplayer icon from the desktop?

 Thanks

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delete the desktop link? /usr/share/applications/***.desktop

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Re: [SHR-U latest] removing mplayer icon

2009-10-10 Thread Tony Berth
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:41 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  how is it possible to remove the mplayer icon from the desktop?
 
  Thanks
 
  Tony
 
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 delete the desktop link? /usr/share/applications/***.desktop


that's exactly the problem! There is no mplayer.desktop in that dir!

Thanks

Tony
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Re: [SHR-U latest] removing mplayer icon

2009-10-10 Thread Lars Hennig
Am Samstag 10 Oktober 2009 schrieb Tony Berth:
 that's exactly the problem! There is no mplayer.desktop in that dir!

At first boot you can add applications to quicklauncher (?). If I remember 
correctly Mplayer was set there as default. 

I am not sure if that is the correct name. I don't know exactly how you can 
remove the applications from there. 


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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread A.A.
Hi,

how can I download the keyboard layout?

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Re: community Digest, Vol 152, Issue 30

2009-10-10 Thread Paul Fertser
flecktor nahu...@cs.bgu.ac.il writes:
 In reply to this post by Matthias Apitz 
 I was able to disable/re-enable wifi with following lines, I did
 however not have the time to check the impact on battery life

 # using Atheros wmiconfig command to disable wlan
 ./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan disable

 # To re-enable wlan:
 ./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan enable
 # set re-association mode 0 :  do send disassoc when reassociation
 ./wmiconfig -i eth0 --setreassocmode 0
 # now try to reconnect wlan using gui
 iwlist eth0 scan

These commands are not what a sane user wants to disable and enable
wifi and save power. For FSO-based distros, read FSO_Resources
wikipage, for all others i advice to learn binding/unbinding trick or
just module load/unload.

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Re: 1024#

2009-10-10 Thread Joan . doe
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:27:44 -0500
Mikhail Umorin mike...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Friday 09 October 2009 06:42:11 joan@gmx.net wrote:
  On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:31:43 +0100
 
  Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
   On 8 Oct 2009, at 22:15, Mikhail Umorin wrote:
On Thursday 08 October 2009 11:57:38 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
either you are in a zone with weak signal from 4508 and 2DF1 (so you
jump frequently from one to the other) or yes, you probably are
suffering
from #1024 :(
   
What's the best way to differentiate? Stand by a cell tower and wait
for a
couple of hours?
  
   It has already been posted here:
  
   Under normal circumstances you would only see these messages with a
   change of cell, so cid would be different. The only time I know of
   that you might legitimately see repeated reconnection to the same
   cell
   is if you've got very low signal and it's the only cell visible.
  
   I am really unclear why you feel the need to ask - yet again - if
   you're affected by #1024, when all the symptoms so clearly seem to
   point to it.
  
   Your Freerunner is of one of the batches affected, yes?
  
   Your Freerunner is reregistering. Obviously.
  
   Do you really have reason to believe you're in an area which receives
   poor coverage from these two towers? What signal strength do mobile
   phones generally show in your house? Or are you just grasping at
   straws, hoping your Freerunner is unaffected?
  
   Stroller.
  
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  Am i the only one who sees 3 towers?
 
 
 
 if you are referring to my log, there are actually 8 towers: 2DF1, 2CED, 
 4508, 
 4506, 4507, 2B20, 2B21, and 2B04
 
 What's up with that?
 

Sorry pedantic post, like to withdraw the previous post.

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Re: [SHR-U latest] removing mplayer icon

2009-10-10 Thread Michele Brocco
On 10/10/09, Lars Hennig n...@el-hennig.de wrote:
 Am Samstag 10 Oktober 2009 schrieb Tony Berth:
 that's exactly the problem! There is no mplayer.desktop in that dir!

 At first boot you can add applications to quicklauncher (?). If I remember
 correctly Mplayer was set there as default.

 I am not sure if that is the correct name. I don't know exactly how you can
 remove the applications from there.


I had the same problem. There are some more .desktop files under your
home directory in some hidden subfolder (if I remember it was
~/.local/share/applications/). just look for them with find -name
*.desktop from your home folder and u will find also the
mplayer.desktop file.

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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:58:15 +0200
pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote:

 Hi
 
  I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They
  are  available from this repository:
 
  Very nice. I want it. I guess I'll try
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume_keyboard#How_to_install_a_new_layout
 
 That didn't work all that nice :-( Tried to
 install them next to raster's keyboards, but
 they appeared all empty. Then I replaced
 rasters keyboard with these, but Enlightenment
 segfaulted, had to restart, lost my ssh into
 the brick and Enlightment wouldnt get back up
 .. ouch .. anyway
 
 The trick is, the files shouldnt
 start with comments. I removed the first
 4 lines (so it starts with ##KBDCONF-1.0)
 and they work like a charm.
 
 Can't really run them side by side with
 Raster's, because the keyboard's canvas
 sizes are different; apparently, enlightenment
 chooses the canvas size of the first keyboard
 it finds and sticks to that. I have them
 all working now, but raster's keyboards
 are swimming in a pool of empty greyness.
 
 Great though - I'll stick to those.

Oops sorry about that. I added the comments at the after I tested the last 
version. Bad luck finding a bug like that.

I noticed that the keyboard window retains the geometry given to it by my 
larger keyboard layout. This was the reason why I started to update the numeric 
layout to the same size as the alphanumeric one.

I have updated my repository

http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/rev/1d5e2a734703

...and tested that actual version on my phone. Thanks for giving it a go. I 
occasionally need the terminal layout so I may attempt a new version of that 
one as well.
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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:45:45 +0200
A.A. a...@email.it wrote:

 how can I download the keyboard layout?

1. Download these two files:

http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/1d5e2a734703/Alpha.kbd

http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/raw-file/1d5e2a734703/Numbers.kbd

2. Use SSH networking to copy them to the phone

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

3. On the phone copy both files to 
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards

4. Restart Enlightenment

killall -HUP enlightenment

It should also be possible to download them directly on the phone, then use the 
terminal to move the files to the correct location.
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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread pike
Hi


 I occasionally need the terminal layout so I may attempt a new
  version of that one as well.

actually the 'type' of  Alpha.kbd
is set to 'TERMINAL' instead of  'ALPHA'.

I haven't noticed any difference though.
I think it's the quotes around the second
character that makes it use the dictionray
prediction.

One character I was instantly missing was
the :. I had to use the 'Terminal' layout
to type a smiley :-)



Thanks!
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Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers

2009-10-10 Thread Michael Smith
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:05:43 +0200
pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote:

 Hi
 
 
  I occasionally need the terminal layout so I may attempt a new
   version of that one as well.
 
 actually the 'type' of  Alpha.kbd
 is set to 'TERMINAL' instead of  'ALPHA'.
 
 I haven't noticed any difference though.
 I think it's the quotes around the second
 character that makes it use the dictionray
 prediction.
 
 One character I was instantly missing was
 the :. I had to use the 'Terminal' layout
 to type a smiley :-)

Yes I did that because I was trying to inhibit the predictive behaviour of the 
alphabetical keyboard to make it more like the terminal keyboard. I wrote these 
layouts for my wife so she could use the phone without a stylus. She has a 
strong dislike for predictive T9 style input methods. On her Motorola she 
prefers to press every key three times when typing an SMS.

She is traveling soon but decided not to take the openmoko because it doesn't 
have a UI to display sent SMS messages. Also it was a bit tricky to use.

I will set those layouts to the correct type and reissue them in the next 
couple of days. I will also see what I can do about the colon character.
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Re: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

2009-10-10 Thread Aditya Gandhi
That is so sad to hear google android without maps, gmail, etc... is there
anyway to get those binaries and have them run on freerunner??

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote:

 On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:14:32 am Warren Baird wrote:

  Is there a summary somewhere around what works and what doesn't, and how
  close it is to being usable as an 'every day' phone?

 I'm using Michael Panicking Trimarchi's v15 image as an everyday phone
 and
 it works nicely.

 I've got working GSM (no echo), SMS, Wifi  GPS and I can easily set Ogg
 files
 as my ringtone through the Android Music application (tested with Ziggy
 Stardust by Bauhaus :-) ).  Bluetooth can see other BT devices but I've
 never
 tried to use it.

 Be aware that some of the Android applications you might expect to find if
 you've seen a G1 (Android Market, Maps, Google Talk, Voice, GMail, etc)
 won't
 be there as they're not open source and you're not permitted to
 redistribute
 them (as the Cyanogenmod maintainer has just discovered the hard way when
 Google asked him to stop distributing his alternative firmware for the G1
 with
 those apps in).

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ElmDentica 0.7.0 is out!

2009-10-10 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi everyone! ElmDentica hasn’t had a new release for a while (*cough*cough*
proving it works so well *cough*cough*), so I though I should share with you
the new stuff in the development of this release.

The news are:

* Replacement of the side buttons by hover’s fired up by pressing for
* about 1s over the bubble
* Usage of inwins for entering user and domain data in the settings
* window
* Usage of hoversel to gain a few more space on the toolbar, specially
* for future features

http://files.1407.org/openmoko/elmdentica/elmdentica-0.7.0-scap.png

http://files.1407.org/openmoko/elmdentica/elmdentica-0.7.0-scap-2.png

So that’s about it… you can get the package from the usual places, the
project’s web-site, by upgrading shr-unstable as it upgrades elmdentica on
next autobuild, building it yourself, etc…

* http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica-0.7.0.tar.gz
* http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica-0.7.0.tar.gz.asc
* http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica_0.7.0-r4_armv4t.ipk
* http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica_0.7.0-r4_armv4t.ipk.asc

Enjoy! :)

Rui

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Re: 1024#

2009-10-10 Thread Mikhail Umorin
On Saturday 10 October 2009 16:19:10 joan@gmx.net wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:27:44 -0500

 Mikhail Umorin mike...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Friday 09 October 2009 06:42:11 joan@gmx.net wrote:
   On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:31:43 +0100
  
   Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 8 Oct 2009, at 22:15, Mikhail Umorin wrote:
 On Thursday 08 October 2009 11:57:38 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 either you are in a zone with weak signal from 4508 and 2DF1 (so
 you jump frequently from one to the other) or yes, you probably
 are suffering
 from #1024 :(

 What's the best way to differentiate? Stand by a cell tower and
 wait for a
 couple of hours?
   
It has already been posted here:
   
Under normal circumstances you would only see these messages with
a change of cell, so cid would be different. The only time I know of
that you might legitimately see repeated reconnection to the same
cell
is if you've got very low signal and it's the only cell visible.
   
I am really unclear why you feel the need to ask - yet again - if
you're affected by #1024, when all the symptoms so clearly seem to
point to it.
   
Your Freerunner is of one of the batches affected, yes?
   
Your Freerunner is reregistering. Obviously.
   
Do you really have reason to believe you're in an area which receives
poor coverage from these two towers? What signal strength do mobile
phones generally show in your house? Or are you just grasping at
straws, hoping your Freerunner is unaffected?
   
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   Am i the only one who sees 3 towers?
 
  if you are referring to my log, there are actually 8 towers: 2DF1, 2CED,
  4508, 4506, 4507, 2B20, 2B21, and 2B04
 
  What's up with that?

 Sorry pedantic post, like to withdraw the previous post.


Oh, I did not even think of that. (It took me a perl script to count all the 
different ones). I am just really interested in why so many towers?  Here is a 
log with deep sleep disabled. It started around 2009-10-09 21:00

[2009-10-10 06:15:17.647316] Signal : cid=2DF1, lac=2775
[2009-10-10 06:15:51.057840] Signal : cid=4508, lac=2775
[2009-10-10 07:14:58.962122] Signal : cid=2DF1, lac=2775
[2009-10-10 07:15:31.443058] Signal : cid=4508, lac=2775
[2009-10-10 07:43:48.193318] Signal : cid=2DF1, lac=2775
[2009-10-10 07:44:22.093633] Signal : cid=4508, lac=2775
[2009-10-10 12:43:26.834672] Signal : cid=2DF1, lac=2775
[2009-10-10 12:43:50.832594] Signal : cid=4508, lac=2775


so, I guess, this is normal



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Re: 1024#

2009-10-10 Thread Stroller

On 11 Oct 2009, at 03:34, Mikhail Umorin wrote:
 ...
 I am just really interested in why so many towers?  Here is a
 log with deep sleep disabled. It started around 2009-10-09 21:00

 [2009-10-10 06:15:17.647316] Signal : cid=2DF1, lac=2775
 [2009-10-10 06:15:51.057840] Signal : cid=4508, lac=2775
 [2009-10-10 07:14:58.962122] Signal : cid=2DF1, lac=2775
 [2009-10-10 07:15:31.443058] Signal : cid=4508, lac=2775
 [2009-10-10 07:43:48.193318] Signal : cid=2DF1, lac=2775
 [2009-10-10 07:44:22.093633] Signal : cid=4508, lac=2775
 [2009-10-10 12:43:26.834672] Signal : cid=2DF1, lac=2775
 [2009-10-10 12:43:50.832594] Signal : cid=4508, lac=2775


 so, I guess, this is normal


I would imagine towers from different companies is part of it.

Also, there are going to be areas on the edge of coverage where your  
phone can detect the signal, but reception would be very poor  
(frequent drop outs c). So the distribution of cell towers will  
reflects that - enough so there's always one you get good coverage  
from, and incidentally there will always be some more distant ones  
your phone can recognise.

If I'm understanding this right, the phone may be registering with  
these more distant towers, which might beg the why question. But  
it's likely the cell companies have lots of towers with overlapping  
coverage, so it's surely not a problem.

Stroller.


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