Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
2009/11/18 ri...@happyleptic.org: If we are allowed to hack it as much as you are allowed to speack about it, well... steady on, i think both you and christoph are jumping to unfair conclusions there let's wait and see, before we lay into it or the programmers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
2009/11/18 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: Who it is - will wait for future announcements. What, when and where will also need to wait. How open it is, will also need to wait. But you can guess that if we are fiddling with it - it's already partly open. Sounds interesting! Please keep us informed! Cheers, Fabian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
I do understand the skepticism, but thinking about the apparent success a pseudo-open platform like Android is having near the manufacturers and users, I'd say there is a very good chance something groundbreaking (in terms of market attitude) may actually happen. Android is fierce competition, and others may take the plunge into openness just to fight it. It's a lesser evil choice for the manufacturers (or in this case, a lesser potential for losses in the near future). Carry on, people!! :) Just don't let them twist your values. ;) Fabian Schölzel wrote: 2009/11/18 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: Who it is - will wait for future announcements. What, when and where will also need to wait. How open it is, will also need to wait. But you can guess that if we are fiddling with it - it's already partly open. Sounds interesting! Please keep us informed! Cheers, Fabian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:07:09PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: Just an FYI here. I can officially leak this. We (over in Enlightenment land) are working with a major electronics manufacturer (one that happens to pump out 100's of millions of phones every year of pretty top-notch hardware quality - and who also happens to like making phones high-spec with nice screens, good SoC's and 3G. If what we do is a phone, or a TV, or a game system, or a DVD player... who knows!). What does this mean? Well - no guarantees, but they are now sponsoring us. That says something. If we are working on something you can guess the rest I'd say. Who it is - will wait for future announcements. What, when and where will also need to wait. How open it is, will also need to wait. But you can guess that if we are fiddling with it - it's already partly open. Hi, For those of you not reading phoronix, they identifed their new sponsor as Samsung. You can read the article here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NzcxNQ -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] For those of you not reading phoronix, they identifed their new sponsor as Samsung. You can read the article here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NzcxNQ Oh! now it's not anymore a secret :) Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
the cuestion will be, how open is bada? David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/11/18 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] For those of you not reading phoronix, they identifed their new sponsor as Samsung. You can read the article here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NzcxNQ Oh! now it's not anymore a secret :) Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
-[ Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:48:50AM +0100, David Reyes Samblas Martinez ] the cuestion will be, how open is bada? And how open the hardware itself. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
Am 18.11.2009 um 10:48 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez: the cuestion will be, how open is bada? I would expect it to be as open as Android, N900, iPhone. I.e. you can write emphasisapplication/emphasis software but have somewhat restricted control over networking and maybe GUI... David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/11/18 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] For those of you not reading phoronix, they identifed their new sponsor as Samsung. You can read the article here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NzcxNQ Oh! now it's not anymore a secret :) Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko application showroom status
Hi risto, not more advances in last weeks, I will try to retake this next week and try at least to have a demo on line, but no promises, there are a lot of stuff do for the Christmas season :) Regards. David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/11/18 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: Hi David, what's the status, are you still working on this? Thanks! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
2009/11/18 ri...@happyleptic.org: -[ Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:48:50AM +0100, David Reyes Samblas Martinez ] the cuestion will be, how open is bada? And how open the hardware itself. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I don't hold my breath for this, major hardware vendors are just understanding the benefits of FOSS software vs propietary but they are far away to aply this to his hardware they still very tight to the old ways of producing hardware and it involves a lot of secrets to avoid any one else stole their ideas and patents. David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
2009/11/18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: Am 18.11.2009 um 10:48 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez: the cuestion will be, how open is bada? I would expect it to be as open as Android, N900, iPhone. I.e. you can write emphasisapplication/emphasis software but have somewhat restricted control over networking and maybe GUI... Yes, this are my thoughts too. David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/11/18 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] For those of you not reading phoronix, they identifed their new sponsor as Samsung. You can read the article here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NzcxNQ Oh! now it's not anymore a secret :) Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
Am 18.11.2009 um 11:20 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez: 2009/11/18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: Am 18.11.2009 um 10:48 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez: the cuestion will be, how open is bada? I would expect it to be as open as Android, N900, iPhone. I.e. you can write emphasisapplication/emphasis software but have somewhat restricted control over networking and maybe GUI... Yes, this are my thoughts too. And I forgot: restrictions how you can publish and distribute your new applications. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko application showroom status
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:04 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Hi risto, not more advances in last weeks, I will try to retake this next week and try at least to have a demo on line, but no promises, there are a lot of stuff do for the Christmas season :) Regards. OK, great - please keep us updated on what happens so people who are interested can participate :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
And I forgot: restrictions how you can publish and distribute your new applications. My personal hope is, that they unexpectetly change to OpenMoko, and just are inspiring the Enlightenment people to optimize theire desktop better for mobile devices. But such hopes are totaly unrealistic... I know. There was only one FIC, and it didn't work very well. :-( leviathan -- David Lanzendörfer OpenSourceSupport GmbH Junior system engineer and supporter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko-Logo in SVG
Hi Folks. Some guys from the SHR-developer team and me got some place in the chaos communication congress to represent our project there. Now I'd like to print some T-Shirts, which will make us recognicible as such developers. For the T-Shirts I'd like to use the good old, old school OpenMoko logo. http://blog.chip.de/chip-linux-blog/files/2007/07/openmoko_logo2.png Does someone have the SVG files for this logo lie around on his hd? Or does someone have a link to these files? Would be nice, if you could post/send me the link/file. regards leviathan -- David Lanzendörfer OpenSourceSupport GmbH Junior system engineer and supporter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko-Logo in SVG
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 08:53:20PM +0100, David Lanzendörfer wrote: Hi Folks. Some guys from the SHR-developer team and me got some place in the chaos communication congress to represent our project there. Now I'd like to print some T-Shirts, which will make us recognicible as such developers. For the T-Shirts I'd like to use the good old, old school OpenMoko logo. http://blog.chip.de/chip-linux-blog/files/2007/07/openmoko_logo2.png Does someone have the SVG files for this logo lie around on his hd? Or does someone have a link to these files? Would be nice, if you could post/send me the link/file. regards leviathan Hi, nice to know, that you will be there. I will visit your place for sure. For the logo - You just voted for an official SHR logo, so why don't use this one? -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ffalarms 0.3 -- recurring alarms
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 09:16:49PM +0100, Łukasz Pankowski wrote: Of course you can do it simpler using repeat instead of shell for loop, than this kill-hack is not needed: [alarm] repeat=10 player=sh -c 'mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/LED/neo1973_vibrator org.freesmartphone.Device.LED.BlinkSeconds 2 100 100; sleep 10' volume=-1 With this setup, I get an error message that file is not defined, and it reverts to defaults. If I define a dummy file, then this works. Thanks for your work! signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news._
On 18 Nov 2009 09:00:00 +0200 openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) said: a major electronics manufacturer are now sponsoring us. Sponsoring us = buying your souls ? openmoko bought yours? (well you have been pimping their products!) :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:48:50 +0100 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com said: who said bada was even relevant? :) the cuestion will be, how open is bada? David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/11/18 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] For those of you not reading phoronix, they identifed their new sponsor as Samsung. You can read the article here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NzcxNQ Oh! now it's not anymore a secret :) Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Unable to place a WikiReader review on Amazon
Hi Joshua On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com wrote: All reviewers must have a password-protected Amazon.com account used for at least one purchase from Amazon.com. Ah ok. So they're forcing you to buy something direct from their store after all. This is discouraging. Finally got a reply from them this morning: Thank you for writing back to us. We understand your concern in this regard, as please be informed that we have checked the details and we are aware of the details in this regard. The potential customer should have a buyer account and he should have at least one single item purchase on amazon for the last six months. Only these potential customers can have option to leave customer reviews. We appreciate your understanding and apology for any misunderstanding that we have may have contributed to you in this regard. So that does now confirm what you said. In parallel universe, I'm sure there's a system better than Amazon's. Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Unable to place a WikiReader review on Amazon
Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com writes: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com wrote: All reviewers must have a password-protected Amazon.com account used for at least one purchase from Amazon.com. Ah ok. So they're forcing you to buy something direct from their store after all. This is discouraging. Finally got a reply from them this morning: Thank you for writing back to us. We understand your concern in this regard, as please be informed that we have checked the details and we are aware of the details in this regard. The potential customer should have a buyer account and he should have at least one single item purchase on amazon for the last six months. Only these potential customers can have option to leave customer reviews. We appreciate your understanding and apology for any misunderstanding that we have may have contributed to you in this regard. So that does now confirm what you said. In parallel universe, I'm sure there's a system better than Amazon's. At least, as they would say..., a system better IN THIS REGARD. :) (I've never seen that phrase used quite that frequently before-- an average of ~once per sentence?) At least its showing up in the product listing again. :) -- Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
raster, I can officially leak this. We (over in Enlightenment land) are working with a major electronics manufacturer Fantastic news, congratulations for getting this off the ground and I wish you a lot of success with it! Keep in touch, Wolfgang On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:07:09PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: Just an FYI here. I can officially leak this. We (over in Enlightenment land) are working with a major electronics manufacturer (one that happens to pump out 100's of millions of phones every year of pretty top-notch hardware quality - and who also happens to like making phones high-spec with nice screens, good SoC's and 3G. If what we do is a phone, or a TV, or a game system, or a DVD player... who knows!). What does this mean? Well - no guarantees, but they are now sponsoring us. That says something. If we are working on something you can guess the rest I'd say. Who it is - will wait for future announcements. What, when and where will also need to wait. How open it is, will also need to wait. But you can guess that if we are fiddling with it - it's already partly open. So... just dropping a keep your eyes peeled. P.S. No glamos were hurt during this work. Actually they were not even involved. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mokopod podcast reader improved
hi all, just to let anyone interested know i've just done a load of work on improving mokopod ( http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokopod/ ). it can now show you the episode list, and download/play/delete individual episodes. i have it running on SHR code is here: http://github.com/timabell/mokopod enjoy! yours Tim Abell ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
