Re: [Community Updates] 2009-11-25 released

2009-11-29 Thread Tony Berth
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.plwrote:

 Hello everybody, better late then never ;).
 Recent Community Update is out.
 Take a look at:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-11-25

 and contribute to the new draft at:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-12-09

 Thanks to all contributors:
 Heinervdm
 Rhk


what is the current staus of SHR-U? Can be used as daily distro? Are the
problems fixed by now? I still have the version from September which rather
works and try to avoid potential problems.

Thanks

Tony
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the Distributor List

2009-11-29 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Hi Community

We're working to make this page:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors

The official list of distributors of the FreeRunner. It's obviously very
important for all of our customers to clearly understand who is selling what
and at what price. I would like to ask for a volunteer to help support this
page and let me personally know if anything needs changing or clarifying.
Any takers?

I would really appreciate the help!

 -Sean
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shr-u status (was Re: [Community Updates] 2009-11-25 released)

2009-11-29 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 29 November 2009, Tony Berth wrote:
 what is the current staus of SHR-U? Can be used as daily distro? Are the
 problems fixed by now? I still have the version from September which rather
 works and try to avoid potential problems.

From what I've seen on the list most of the original bugs have now been fixed, 
and it should now be usable as a phone. I've not actually tried it yet though 
- a job for later today.

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Re: shr-u status (was Re: [Community Updates] 2009-11-25 released)

2009-11-29 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Am Sonntag 29 November 2009 10:46:38 schrieb Al Johnson:
 On Sunday 29 November 2009, Tony Berth wrote:
  what is the current staus of SHR-U? Can be used as daily distro? Are the
  problems fixed by now? I still have the version from September which
  rather works and try to avoid potential problems.
 
 From what I've seen on the list most of the original bugs have now been
  fixed, and it should now be usable as a phone. I've not actually tried it
  yet though - a job for later today.
 
There was a similar request on shr-users Mailinglist, so i forward the answer 
spaetz has given there:

--  Weitergeleitete Nachricht  --

Betreff: Re: [Shr-User] update request
Datum: Sonntag 29 November 2009
Von: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de
An: 

sam tygier wrote:
 I wonder if we could have a new update on the progress on the new SHR 
releases.

This is a tricky request, as there are so many things going on in
parallel, that just keeping trac of regressions/fixes/improvements is a
hard task.

Additionally, the core devs are not constantly reflashing a new image on
their devices and some of the regressions are only being noticed by
installing a fresh image.

But let me try to summarize:

- Incoming calls when suspended don't work. (one ringtone and then it
aborts). This has been fixed.

- Ringtone continues ringing even when user aborts call. This has been
fixed, but I think it's not in the latest image/feed yet. We are
currently rebuilding from scratch so that might still take a few hours
to hit the feed. Also this caused some audio stuttering during the first
seconds of a call, I think.

- Phone suspends when booted with USB plugged in. You have to work
around by unplugging/replugging

- ogsmd has been improved to start up 9 seconds quicker than before,
(don't know if the new revision is already being used, but it should go
in soon).

- One thing that is still left: It appears that e-wm-illume-config-shr
is not in the images by default (although it should be). Thus, you can
select Illume but not Illume SHR in the initial wizard. If this is
the case you have to manually install e-wm-illume-config-shr and delete
/home/root/.e to get back to the initial qizard thingie.

- Much more has happened on the audio tweaking side, eg. the Mute and
speaker buttons in the active call dialog should be functional now.

-Currently there is ongoing work to integrate shr-today into the phone
apps (it's a standalone-python app now), and to integrate some quick
settings app that is reachable from the phone apps. Also the 1st time
shr-wizard is being worked on.

-mokonnect was updated and allows me to connect to WLAN again and seems
to be able to power on the WLAN now (except when you used shr-settings
to turn OFF WiFi, as that set the WiFi Policy to disabled)

- MOre apps are added to the feed, eg babiloo, a dictionary, working
through the package request list. And existing apps that fail to compile
are being looked at to make them compile.

Sure, I forgot lots of things, but this is what I know


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Re: Navit - unusable?

2009-11-29 Thread Marc Bantle
Hi Jens,

Jens Seidel schrieb:
 Hi,

 I always wondered how people use navit. I started it already a few times but
 find it (in contrast to tangogps) completely unusable.

 Once I start it I just get an empty background. Shouldn't it display a map?
 I read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Navit and tried the described Easy
 Way but do not find the dialog to download maps. I haven't tried the
 command line solution yet as I believe a graphical application should not
 depend on it.

 How to add a destination? I select as Country Germany, and my City followed
 by Street and Number. And now? Any click on Map, Bookmark and Destination
 does nothing. I assume I have to be online for this step, this is fulfilled.

 I use version 1:0.1.0+svnr2735-r0.4 from the default feed.
It took we quite some time to make navit work for me
as well. Meanwhile I use it as gps-aware map and for
bike navigation.

There's several aspects that need to be setup:

- Supplying the map data as already pointed out by others.
I use europe.navit.bin.
- Setup you locale as described in [1]
- Tweak the layouts, to show the details you like to see.
I had to enable living streets for cars and paths for
bike for navit to find the routes as expected.
- Onscreen Display (I still need to tweak that)
- Audio guidance (I haven't set that up so far)
- Valid network connection to your freerunner to
use it as gps device for your desktop, if desired.

It helped me a lot to split up configuration files
into one file per vehicleprofile and layout and include
those into the main navit.xml. That way you easily
compare different vehicleprofiles and layouts.

The binary data supplied by cloudmade contains most of the
OSM information, you just need to make navit display it in
a reasonable manner concerning design and cpu usage.
There are some problems with finding cities as Martin
pointed out. Most bigger places seem to work though.

You can have a look at my configuration at [2]. Note that
it's far from perfect but might help as a starting point.

Cheers,
Marc

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Navit#Preselect_Country_of_Destination
[2] http://www.gut-informierte-kreise.de/navit.xml.tar.gz




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Re: Navit - unusable?

2009-11-29 Thread Martin Jansa
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 02:14:35PM +0100, Marc Bantle wrote:
 Hi Jens,
 
 Jens Seidel schrieb:
  Hi,
 
  I always wondered how people use navit. I started it already a few times but
  find it (in contrast to tangogps) completely unusable.
 
  Once I start it I just get an empty background. Shouldn't it display a map?
  I read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Navit and tried the described Easy
  Way but do not find the dialog to download maps. I haven't tried the
  command line solution yet as I believe a graphical application should not
  depend on it.
 
  How to add a destination? I select as Country Germany, and my City followed
  by Street and Number. And now? Any click on Map, Bookmark and Destination
  does nothing. I assume I have to be online for this step, this is fulfilled.
 
  I use version 1:0.1.0+svnr2735-r0.4 from the default feed.
 It took we quite some time to make navit work for me
 as well. Meanwhile I use it as gps-aware map and for
 bike navigation.
 
 There's several aspects that need to be setup:
 
 - Supplying the map data as already pointed out by others.
 I use europe.navit.bin.
 - Setup you locale as described in [1]
 - Tweak the layouts, to show the details you like to see.
 I had to enable living streets for cars and paths for
 bike for navit to find the routes as expected.
 - Onscreen Display (I still need to tweak that)
 - Audio guidance (I haven't set that up so far)
 - Valid network connection to your freerunner to
 use it as gps device for your desktop, if desired.
 
 It helped me a lot to split up configuration files
 into one file per vehicleprofile and layout and include
 those into the main navit.xml. That way you easily
 compare different vehicleprofiles and layouts.
 
 The binary data supplied by cloudmade contains most of the
 OSM information, you just need to make navit display it in
 a reasonable manner concerning design and cpu usage.
 There are some problems with finding cities as Martin
 pointed out. Most bigger places seem to work though.
 
 You can have a look at my configuration at [2]. Note that
 it's far from perfect but might help as a starting point.
 
 Cheers,

I pushed some changes to SHR repo few hours ago.

We have better default config now and its splitted to 4 easier managable
config files in /usr/share/navit.

More tweaks will follow.

But check new configs with next navit update (not sure when buildhost
will build feed, because there is rebuild from scratch going..)

Cheers,

-- 
uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com
Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr 
JaMa 

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Re: Navit - unusable?

2009-11-29 Thread Marc Bantle
Hi Jens,

Jens Seidel schrieb:
 How to add a destination? I select as Country Germany, and my City followed
 by Street and Number. And now? Any click on Map, Bookmark and Destination
 does nothing. I assume I have to be online for this step, this is fulfilled.
   
With valid gps-signal that position is your current postion.

Without gps input you can set postions by clicking on
the map, which will open the home screen. There select
actions--globe symbol, which stands for the position
you clicked on, and then choose whether you want it as
current or destination position. Equally you can define
a bookmark.

Hope that helps,
Marc





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How to publish a piece of software in python?

2009-11-29 Thread Ivo van den Maagdenberg
I have a rather simple request: what is the procedure to publish a set
of python script files, into a distributable package for releasing it
to the opkg feeds?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain posed me some challanges. After reaching
How to create your own project from the sample project it seems this
whole method is for a c-programs... this turns me down, sorry.

So, where is the simple 5-10 step procedure for average joes like me?

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Re: How to publish a piece of software in python?

2009-11-29 Thread Joseph Reeves
An ipk file is just a load of files packaged together. These are
distributed as you see fit, then opkg installs your application by
extracting the relevant files to the places you want them. All very
easy (said, literally, as an average Joe) if you use the ipkg-build
script. More info:

http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto

Of course, a good way to learn is to grab any ipk file, extract it,
and see what it does.

Cheers, Joseph



2009/11/29 Ivo van den Maagdenberg ivo.vdmaagdenb...@gmail.com:
 I have a rather simple request: what is the procedure to publish a set
 of python script files, into a distributable package for releasing it
 to the opkg feeds?

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain posed me some challanges. After 
 reaching
 How to create your own project from the sample project it seems this
 whole method is for a c-programs... this turns me down, sorry.

 So, where is the simple 5-10 step procedure for average joes like me?

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Re: How to publish a piece of software in python?

2009-11-29 Thread Onen
Hi,

you should have a look at Python distutils.

Then contact the people from the distributions (SHR, Debian, etc...). 
They will create the ipk, deb, etc. based on the distutils file of your 
Python application.

Onen


Ivo van den Maagdenberg wrote:
 I have a rather simple request: what is the procedure to publish a set
 of python script files, into a distributable package for releasing it
 to the opkg feeds?
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain posed me some challanges. After 
 reaching
 How to create your own project from the sample project it seems this
 whole method is for a c-programs... this turns me down, sorry.
 
 So, where is the simple 5-10 step procedure for average joes like me?
 
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Re: How to publish a piece of software in python?

2009-11-29 Thread Ivo van den Maagdenberg
2009/11/29 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com:
 An ipk file is just a load of files packaged together. These are
 distributed as you see fit, then opkg installs your application by
 extracting the relevant files to the places you want them. All very
 easy (said, literally, as an average Joe) if you use the ipkg-build
 script. More info:

 http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=IPKG_Howto

That link truly helped. Currently I have deploy an ipkg package on my
moko, which lands things as intended in /usr/bin and
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/. Great! Another step further into
public availability of my tinkering :)

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Re: the Distributor List

2009-11-29 Thread David Lanzendörfer
Hi Sean
I would be very glad to help you looking, that everything goes right.
And would additionaly like to ask for some guidlines to start selling such 
devices as company (www.o2s.ch) too.
And by the way:
Good work, coming up with Freerunner, its the must powerfull tool I ever had. 
It even survived going swimming with me in Amazonia, last fall!
(Little boat accident)
I couldnt think of another device like this,
I'm loving it. Again: Good work!

Best regards
David [aka. leviathan]


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Re: [Community Updates] 2009-11-25 released

2009-11-29 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
 
 what is the current staus of SHR-U? Can be used as daily distro? Are
 the problems fixed by now? I still have the version from September
 which rather works and try to avoid potential problems.

Your questions has been mostly answered on shr-user mailing list:
http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-user/2009-November/002325.html


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