Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread c_c

Hi,

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 keep it lite
 
  OK.

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 toggle fullscreen
 
  Is it needed? I'm using the screen except for the illume slipshelf on top
- and even that shows the page title.
  If I did do so (the page title tells you what you're browsing and is
redundant in that sense) - how would I manage to do it in elementary.

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 rotate the screen (not X), hopefully performance will stay
 
  :) How do I do that in elementary?

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 possibility to stop loading
 
  Will add that under the menu.

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 toggle loading-displaying images 
 
  Any ideas how webkit does that?

Thanks.
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Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread lars poulsen
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,
  Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser.

 Features

 * finger scrolling
 * double-click to zoom in
 * triple click to zoom out (not working as of now - help needed)
 * layout optimised for max viewing space

  The code is available at elm-browser.googlecode.com

  The ipk for shr-u is available at
 http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk

  Feedback / feature requests are welcome.
  I don't know much about webkit/edje and hence need help with the following
 :-

  * Is there a bookmarking api in webkit ?
  * How do I make a webview transparent in webkit-efl ?
  * Evas triple click doesn't work. Any Ideas ?
  * Can and edje file alse provide signal callbacks if I use it through
 elementary layout ?

 Thanks and enjoy!
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This is great.
Please keep it light.
We have been missing a decent browser for so long. Dillo is great but
does not show all pages with success.

Bookmarks would be great.

regards,

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Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Am Donnerstag 14 Januar 2010 09:00:27 schrieb c_c:
 Petr Vanek wrote:
  toggle loading-displaying images
 
   Any ideas how webkit does that?

Don't know about ewebkit, but with webkit-gtk it's just setting 

settings = webkit_web_view_get_settings(WEBKIT_WEB_VIEW(web_view));
g_object_set (  settings, auto-load-images, active, NULL);
webkit_web_view_set_settings (WEBKIT_WEB_VIEW(web_view),   
  WEBKIT_WEB_SETTINGS (settings));

 Thanks.
 

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RE: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread Niels Heyvaert


 Feedback / feature requests are welcome.

First of all: good stuff! Keep it up.

If it's not already the case, it would be interesting to be able to modify the 
useragent identifying the browser engine and version. Probably from a config 
file. This helps a lot if you want to browse websites which are optimised for 
certain browsers on mobile devices.

And as a general suggestion: keep it as simple and lightweight as possible.


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Re: RPN Calculator application available

2010-01-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
 Blog post (with links): http://glitch.tl/mkrpn.html
Hi Michael,
on your blog, there is a link to 0.3 version. I suppose this is testing?

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Re: RPN Calculator application available

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Smith
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:39:49 +0100
Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:

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  Blog post (with links): http://glitch.tl/mkrpn.html
 Hi Michael,
 on your blog, there is a link to 0.3 version. I suppose this is testing?

0.3 is the latest and the best. I kept working on it after I posted to the 
list. Please tell me how you go with it.

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Re: RPN Calculator application available

2010-01-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
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 0.3 is the latest and the best. I kept working on it after I posted to
 the list. Please tell me how you go with it.
No go at all. I am not testing it, just putting an entry in Community
Updates to let people who do not read ML, know about your app. If you
say 0.3 is better, than I'll put it to CU.

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Re: RPN Calculator application available

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Smith
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:16:54 +0100
Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:

 [cut]
  0.3 is the latest and the best. I kept working on it after I posted to
  the list. Please tell me how you go with it.
 No go at all. I am not testing it, just putting an entry in Community
 Updates to let people who do not read ML, know about your app. If you
 say 0.3 is better, than I'll put it to CU.

Are you the contact for community updates? I plan to release new versions of 
this application and to develop others. I can point you to an RSS feed where I 
will post changes if that is a good way to work.
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Re: RPN Calculator application available

2010-01-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
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 Are you the contact for community updates?
partially yes, but I am not the only one. CU as it's name says are
written by many contributors (take a look on CU edit history if you want
details).
  I plan to release new versions of this application and to develop
 others. I can point you to an RSS feed where I will post changes if
 that is a good way to work.
IMHO the best way would be to post RSS feed on this ML, so other CU
contributors could take advantage of it also.

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Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread Vadim, Efimov
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:24:23 +0300, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Michael Smith-5 wrote:

 If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of
 links.

   I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient.

May be Eet enough ? Sqlite — +1 to deps, eet already in EFL.
http://watchwolf.fr/blog/index.php?post/2009/09/27/Sqlite-versus-Eet

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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Сбт, 26/12/2009 в 08:44 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:

 
 I'm stupid, of course you can use 2 layouts. Just use a function key,
 like fn to switch between them.
 
 Example:
 
 (russian letter)
 key a b c d
 russian sth sth 
 
 
 (english letter)
 key v w x y
 normal sth sth
 
 (switch)
 key j k l m
 normal sth $is_russian
 russian sth $is_russian

The problem is a bit bigger. I've tried to adopt layout conf to use
russian letters, but got stuck. There are lower case and upper case
letters. In english - everything is easy: normal and shift, but this
scheme prohibits of entering anything else then this. Seems that it
needs not such an easy method, but more complicated with switchable
layouts, not just Fn key.

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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/1/14 Vladimir Berezenko qmas...@rambler.ru

 В Сбт, 26/12/2009 в 08:44 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:

 
  I'm stupid, of course you can use 2 layouts. Just use a function key,
  like fn to switch between them.
 
  Example:
 
  (russian letter)
  key a b c d
  russian sth sth
 
 
  (english letter)
  key v w x y
  normal sth sth
 
  (switch)
  key j k l m
  normal sth $is_russian
  russian sth $is_russian

 The problem is a bit bigger. I've tried to adopt layout conf to use
 russian letters, but got stuck. There are lower case and upper case
 letters. In english - everything is easy: normal and shift, but this
 scheme prohibits of entering anything else then this. Seems that it
 needs not such an easy method, but more complicated with switchable
 layouts, not just Fn key.



You can have as many layouts as you want. Right now there are 4 - normal,
shift, capslock, fn. So just add 2 more, like russian, russian_shift or
something.
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Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
 Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations,
 and
HI Mickey,
I was looking at 
 (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso
but wasn't able to find PayPal account for FSO. Can you provide this
data? But don't get too excited, currently I need this for CU.
BTW, are you really only one person developing/rewriting FSO to Vala?

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pisi depenencies

2010-01-14 Thread Vinzenz Hersche
hello all,

i just want to know if there's a package for python/syncml on desktop-pc's.. 
it's because of pisi:
skams...@skamster:~$ pisigui 
Xlib:  extension RANDR missing on display :0.0.
Configuring
Starting synchronization   
My configuration is:   
Mode is 0 - calendar   
In case of conflicts I use the following strategy: Skip
Reading configfile: /home/skamster/.pisi/conf  
ics-module using file /home/skamster/cal.ics   
Traceback (most recent call last): 
  File /usr/bin/pisigui, line 296, in startSync  
source = pisi.importModules(configfolder,  config,  modulesToLoad,  
modulesNamesCombined, False)
  File /opt/pisi/pisi.py, line 81, in importModules   

exec from modules import  + modulename +  as module+i.__str__() 

  File string, line 1, in module  

  File /opt/pisi/modules/calendar_syncml.py, line 34, in module 

import thirdparty.conduit.SyncmlModule as SyncmlModule   

i found nowhere something about this importet module. but if my idea is right 
(that sync on qtmoko works with syncml) it would be great, because then it's 
possible to sync all calendar- and contact-data betwen pc, web and moko.. :)

and i use sidux, but it's most time similiar to ubuntu (if someone know's 
where the right package is.. )

greets

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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 16:49 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: 
 You can have as many layouts as you want. Right now there are 4 -
 normal, shift, capslock, fn. So just add 2 more, like russian,
 russian_shift or something.

Ok. Might they be added in config or they also should be added in code?
I've seen that you're checking those shift thingies in code and add
them to capslock. Is there any need to add also alt and altshift
there?



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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/1/14 Vladimir Berezenko qmas...@rambler.ru

 В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 16:49 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:
  You can have as many layouts as you want. Right now there are 4 -
  normal, shift, capslock, fn. So just add 2 more, like russian,
  russian_shift or something.

 Ok. Might they be added in config or they also should be added in code?
 I've seen that you're checking those shift thingies in code and add
 them to capslock. Is there any need to add also alt and altshift
 there?



I don't think you need to change the code, at least it was designed so that
you don't have to. Where am I checking shift and capslock in the code?
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Re: QCurrency - simple currency calculator

2010-01-14 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I made a simple currency calculator as I could not find any.
 Feature:
  * can save excahnge rate :-)

looks good so far. i like the big buttons, nice for punching numbers
when walking.
only one thing that is pointing its self out. now that i can save the
rate i wish i could save multiple rates. 2-4 maybe...  perhaps
accessible through one button that you hit multiple times to cycle
through the saved rates.

really nice application though. this will be used!

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[QtMoko] Request for developers

2010-01-14 Thread giacomo `giotti` mariani
Hello guys,
I know you are working for free and, indeed, very well

My problem is that I can't use any VoIP with QtMoko and this is drawing
me crazy.
This is the reason I suggest you to consider http://www.qutecom.org/ for
the inclusion in the distribution.
Reading the document page I see that it uses Qt4 library with Cmake that
is a super QMake http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qmake-manual.html and,
looking at http://trac.qutecom.org/wiki/OWBuildIntro, the porting looks
possible for you, but not for me.

Anyway, thank you very much

PS qspectemu is awesome!

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Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 09:00, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Petr Vanek wrote:

 keep it lite

  OK.

 Petr Vanek wrote:

 toggle fullscreen

  Is it needed? I'm using the screen except for the illume slipshelf on top
 - and even that shows the page title.
  If I did do so (the page title tells you what you're browsing and is
 redundant in that sense) - how would I manage to do it in elementary.

 Petr Vanek wrote:

 rotate the screen (not X), hopefully performance will stay

  :) How do I do that in elementary?

 Petr Vanek wrote:

 possibility to stop loading

  Will add that under the menu.

 Petr Vanek wrote:

 toggle loading-displaying images

  Any ideas how webkit does that?

 Thanks.

About how do i do that in elementary: elm_win_fullscreen_set IIRC.
And for rotating: look at elementary_tests, it's there ;)

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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 17:28 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: 

 I don't think you need to change the code, at least it was designed so
 that you don't have to. Where am I checking shift and capslock in the
 code? 

keymap.cpp:80

if (first == shift  action!=capslock)
keys[GetFunId(capslock)].push_back(k); 

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Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 17:05 +0100 schrieb Patryk Benderz:
 [cut]
  Let me also remind you that we have a PayPal account for donations,
  and
 HI Mickey,
 I was looking at 
  (1) http://www.ohloh.net/p/fso
 but wasn't able to find PayPal account for FSO.

Our paypal address is coret...@freesmartphone.org -- this goes to the
whole FSO core team.

 BTW, are you really only one person developing/rewriting FSO to Vala?

Unfortunately yes, after Openmoko stopped funding us, my colleagues
started diving into their studies to finish those (which is a good
thing) -- so for the 6 months, I have been Mr. Lone Rider ... and due to
Vala's immaturity it has been a wild ride :)

In the last 6 months, I worked roughly 60 hours per week on FSO2. Thanks
to my wife having a full-time-job, I could do this without causing any
financial trouble. 

I really believe in the APIs and the architecture we have with FSO1, so
I just had to work so much to get the critical mass done, in order to
get more people on board then.

This year will be different, as I have some other contracts to work on
non-FOSS. We're still trying to gather any FSO-based jobs, but with us
lacking a showcase on (non-Openmoko) hardware, it's very tough.

Don't get me wrong, I love the FreeRunner as it got the whole movement
going, but if FSO wants to have a chance to survive, it's vital to
finding newer platforms.

Cheers,

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Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-14 Thread rakshat hooja

 Don't get me wrong, I love the FreeRunner as it got the whole movement
 going, but if FSO wants to have a chance to survive, it's vital to
 finding newer platforms.

 Cheers,

 --
 :M:


Not really new hardware but have you seen Rafeal's attempt to get FSO
working on the hardware that compulab exeda is based on. He should still
have the compulab developer kit we gave him around. He is planning to shift
to Brazil so in case you want the kit I will check with him if he can ship
it to you

http://openblog.methril.net/2008/09/first-openmoko-image.html

http://www.compulab.co.il/exeda/html/exeda-datasheet.htm

Rakshat
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Re: literki update

2010-01-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/1/14 Vladimir Berezenko qmas...@rambler.ru

 В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 17:28 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет:

  I don't think you need to change the code, at least it was designed so
  that you don't have to. Where am I checking shift and capslock in the
  code?

 keymap.cpp:80

 if (first == shift  action!=capslock)
keys[GetFunId(capslock)].push_back(k);


 Ok, sorry, I forgot about it (it's been a while since I've written that
part).

The capslock mode is special in the sense that it copies all keys from the
shift mode. That's what these 2 lines do. It's so that you don't have to
define every single key in the capslock mode.

The thing that's special about the shift mode is that it returns to normal
mode after a key is pressed. It's impossible to define this purely in the
layout file atm. So your shift_russian mode wouldn't have that property.
This is implemented in the lines 106-108 and 134-137 in keymap.cpp.

So you can change line 107 to sth like if (f == shift || f ==
shift_russian) and it will work. Or just check if the prefix is shift.

Unfortunately I'm not able to fix this now in the general case (I'll be
travelling for the next few months). If you have an idea for a fix (so you
can define the keep_fun property in the layout file), feel free to release a
new version. I'll be available via email every once in a while if you have
questions, but I might not be reading this list.
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Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/1/14 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de

 In the last 6 months, I worked roughly 60 hours per week on FSO2. Thanks
 to my wife having a full-time-job, I could do this without causing any
 financial trouble.


Wow! You are amazing. Thanks for doing this, I'm sure it will pay off in the
future.
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Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-14 Thread omcomali . rhn
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:31:16 +0100
Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote:

 2010/1/14 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de
 
  In the last 6 months, I worked roughly 60 hours per week on FSO2. Thanks
  to my wife having a full-time-job, I could do this without causing any
  financial trouble.
 
 
 Wow! You are amazing. Thanks for doing this, I'm sure it will pay off in the
 future.
 

I agree with Michał - your commitment is amazing!

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Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread c_c

Hi,

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
 
 About how do i do that in elementary: elm_win_fullscreen_set IIRC.
 And for rotating: look at elementary_tests, it's there ;)
 
  Well, here's another release. Changes :-

 * zoom out added to menu
 * stop loading page added to menu
 * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now
 * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's weird
though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way
 * ability to change user agent added (but not tested)
 
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4394197/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk 
 
  As usual - feedback is welcome.

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Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?

2010-01-14 Thread Brolin Empey
Ben Cadieux wrote:
 Hi Brolin,

 Just a few things to remember:

 1. This list is public; these posts will remain available through
 search engines for quite some time.

Yes, I realise this.  I explicated this realisation in my original post:

“Can anyone relate to me?  What should I do?  I know I have volunteered 
a lot of personal information in this post, but much of it is already 
publicly accessible for those who know my real/legal name and know how 
to use tools such as Google Search.  I have been considering writing a 
post like this for months (maybe already 1 year), but I ended up 
stopping writing early because I felt uncomfortable about volunteering 
so much personal information.  What do I have to lose, though?  I need 
to stop being so self-conscious.”

  You have posted many details that
 may cause you trouble or embarrassment in the future.

Can you provide some specific examples, other than saying I want to fuck 
Tamara, which should not surprise her since she already knew that?  I 
know some people think I should not have mentioned her (full) name in 
such a context, but it is too late now.

I do not think I have posted anything (very) embarrassing.  I also do 
not think members of this list want to embarrass me.  Most of the 
members who have replied appear to want to help me, not embarrass me.  I 
guess you were probably referring to details which could cause 
embarrassment if read by someone who found them via a search engine. 
However, I am not concerned about embarrassment because I believe I have 
nothing to lose by volunteering the personal information in my previous 
posts.  For example, I would not have met Alishams if I never posted my 
original message in this thread.

 2. Think about what others need to know, or would like to know, before
 writing.  Brevity both in writing and speech is important.  You don't
 want to annoy or bore others with irrelevant information, nor seem
 boring by giving away all your thoughts.

Brolin’s verbose mode is always on! ;)

 All the best to you and your endeavours :)

 Best Regards,
 Ben Cadieux

I finally realised why your name seems familiar:  you are the author of 
WDe.  I e-mailed you about WDe in 2006. :)

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Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 22:52 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja:
 Not really new hardware but have you seen Rafeal's attempt to get FSO
 working on the hardware that compulab exeda is based on. He should
 still have the compulab developer kit we gave him around. He is
 planning to shift to Brazil so in case you want the kit I will check
 with him if he can ship it to you

Sure, if he no longer is using it, I'd like to have a look at it.

Regards,

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Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 14 January 2010, c_c wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
  About how do i do that in elementary: elm_win_fullscreen_set IIRC.
  And for rotating: look at elementary_tests, it's there ;)
 
   Well, here's another release. Changes :-
 
  * zoom out added to menu
  * stop loading page added to menu
  * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now
  * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's weird
 though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way
  * ability to change user agent added (but not tested)

Very nice :-) Works well with the squeezeserver nokia770 theme when rotated. 
Mythweb is a little odd, but I've not looked into why. Dropdown lists don't 
seem to work so I can't select the mobile zimbra interface, but other than 
that the default interface seems to work!

I see what you mean about the rotation being weird. It seems to need a restart 
after the orientation change before it occupies the correct area too. i could 
see the menu button after changing from portrait to landscape but it wouldn't 
function, and the render width didn't appear to have changed, leaving the old 
image of the buttons from the settings dialog on screen. Conversely when going 
from landscape to portrait the buttons were usable, but further from the 
bottom than expected, and the bottom portion of the screen wasn't being used.

The first time I added a bookmark it segfaulted, but the bookmark was present 
when I restarted the browser. I haven't been able to reproduce this though, 
and the second bookmark added without problems.

 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4394197/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
 browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk

I had to remove then reinstall before I got the new version. --force-reinstall 
left me with the old one. 

   As usual - feedback is welcome.
 
 Thanks.
 


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Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread Petr Vanek
 * zoom out added to menu
 * stop loading page added to menu
 * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now
 * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's
 weird
though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way
 * ability to change user agent added (but not tested)

working very well. i would almost tend to say no more features to keep
it fast

A few bugs: 
Rotation issue has already been reported.
The show images doesn't work seems to me. 
Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet.
Commandline url not accepted yet.

thank you
Petr


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Re: [QtMoko] Building QtMoko failed

2010-01-14 Thread Yann SLADEK
Hi Radek,

So the last commit seems to be the same but I also tried to use the last 
branch
Here are commands :

 m...@mavdesktop:~/OpenMoko/QTMoko-Build/qtmoko/qtopiacore$ rm -rf qt
 m...@mavdesktop:~/OpenMoko/QTMoko-Build/qtmoko/qtopiacore$ git clone 
git://github.com/radekp/qt.git

 m...@mavdesktop:~/OpenMoko/QTMoko-Build/build$ ../qtmoko/configure 
-device neo -D _FORTIFY_SOURCE=0 -confirm-license -add-language fr_FR
 m...@mavdesktop:~/OpenMoko/QTMoko-Build/build$ make

And then the same error..
Tell me if something was wrong

Thanks for your help

 Yann SLADEK wrote:


 Hi there,

 I wanted to start the french translation of QtMoko and wanted to build
 it, so I followed instructions here : http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Translations
 The configure step was fine but when I start make, I got the following

  *** Error

 I googled this but no clue
  
 Hi Yann,
 it can be problem that qt submodule is not in correct version. I had similar
 problem at work. You should check qt version if it matches the one in:

 http://github.com/radekp/qt/tree/qtmoko-v15

 You can do it by
 cd qtmoko/qtopiacore/qt
 git log

 the last commit should match the one on web
 (a2eb181371609220d111db555da07ab32627ffca). If not you should somehow make it
 match (e.g. clone above git, checkout qtmoko-v17 branch and replace
 qtopiacore/qt with it).

 Or if it still does not work please let me know.

 Regards

 Radek

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Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?

2010-01-14 Thread Brolin Empey
omcomali@porcupinefactory.org wrote:
 On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:00:19 +0100
 Fabian Schölzelfabian.schoel...@googlemail.com  wrote:

 ---snip---

 You also said, that he could run into trouble because of the things he writes
 here. Well, that may be. Myself i think, only people, that are not able to
 deal with that amount of info and openness, would generate trouble out of 
 this
 writings. I don't really see, where one can be too open and honest about
 himself. Is that really possible? We are all human beings, why would we want
 to hide parts of our existence? Why would we want to let taboos about what to
 say and what not to say stay? If someone don't want to read some specific
 stuff, then he should go on and do not read it. If someone (in 10 years for
 example) will make decisions or estimations on the basis of Brolins writings
 here and now - well, as i said, that may happen. Often people say imagine
 they google you and don't give you a job. I would say: Gladly, Brolin don't
 have to work and talk with people, who are just lost in the age of
 information.


 I approach this in a slightly differrent manner.
 I believe that one should not be completely open to strangers and should 
 leave some knowledge about him/her only to people he/she cares about. Being 
 able to know someone more than others do is a gift you could give your 
 colleagues (they know more then a stranger), your friends (you know some of 
 your thoughts), your relatives (they know your daily life) and so on. I 
 personally find it nice if someone shows that I'm important to her/him by 
 sharing more of that knowledge with me.

 That are also a few other reasons to not talk about oneself that I won't 
 share with Google's caches as Google is not someone I know ;)

I do not think your approach makes sense because even my closest friends 
were once strangers.  If I had never talked to Andrew Williamson in 
elementary school in 1995, we would probably not have become friends. 
One of us must have initially approached the other for the first time, 
though, and we are still closest friends 15 years later because one of 
us decided to approach someone who was a stranger at the time.  Granted, 
we were 8 at the time:  I guess children are less afraid of their peers 
than adults are afraid of their peers.  I am now almost 23, but I am 
still too afraid and/or shy to talk to many strangers because I know 
nothing about them.  I think online/virtual communities are a good way 
to learn about people before meeting them in person.  This is how I met 
Alishams:  if he had not written his long reply to my original message 
in this thread, I probably would have been less comfortable if I met him 
in person because I would not have known anything about him other than 
his sex, estimated age, and physical appearance.

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Re: pisi depenencies

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Pilgermann
Hi Vinzenz,

in fact, Syncml support is fully implemented in PISI already; however, I
haven't yet managed to get all the required libs into PISI - that's why
it's not yet in the release (and commented in the config file).

The file you are asking for is in the repos
(http://github.com/kichkasch/pisi/blob/master/thirdparty/conduit/SyncmlModule.py)
already; however, this again will depend on 'pysyncml', which in turn
depends on syncmllib ...

On my desktop I have successfully used the module already ... hope, I
(or somebody) can create and apply a recipe for SHR from libsyncml
(https://libsyncml.opensync.org/) soon ... off we would go then ...

As temporary solution for your desktop:
1) Install libsyncml (download sources from link given above) with
required deps (something with xml and another one)
2) Extract the attached archive to '/opt/pisi/thirdparty'


3) give me feedback ;) ... good luck!

Michael


On 01/14/2010 05:10 PM, Vinzenz Hersche wrote:
 hello all,
 
 i just want to know if there's a package for python/syncml on desktop-pc's.. 
 it's because of pisi:
 skams...@skamster:~$ pisigui 
 Xlib:  extension RANDR missing on display :0.0.
 Configuring
 Starting synchronization   
 My configuration is:   
 Mode is 0 - calendar   
 In case of conflicts I use the following strategy: Skip
 Reading configfile: /home/skamster/.pisi/conf  
 ics-module using file /home/skamster/cal.ics   
 Traceback (most recent call last): 
   File /usr/bin/pisigui, line 296, in startSync  
 source = pisi.importModules(configfolder,  config,  modulesToLoad,  
 modulesNamesCombined, False)
   File /opt/pisi/pisi.py, line 81, in importModules 
   
 exec from modules import  + modulename +  as module+i.__str__()   
   
   File string, line 1, in module
   
   File /opt/pisi/modules/calendar_syncml.py, line 34, in module   
   
 import thirdparty.conduit.SyncmlModule as SyncmlModule   
 
 i found nowhere something about this importet module. but if my idea is right 
 (that sync on qtmoko works with syncml) it would be great, because then it's 
 possible to sync all calendar- and contact-data betwen pc, web and moko.. :)
 
 and i use sidux, but it's most time similiar to ubuntu (if someone know's 
 where the right package is.. )
 
 greets
 
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Re: QCurrency - simple currency calculator

2010-01-14 Thread Christian Rüb
Am Donnerstag, 14. Januar 2010 schrieb jeremy jozwik:
 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I made a simple currency calculator as I could not find any.
  Feature:
   * can save excahnge rate :-)
 
 looks good so far. i like the big buttons, nice for punching numbers
 when walking.
 only one thing that is pointing its self out. now that i can save the
 rate i wish i could save multiple rates. 2-4 maybe...  perhaps
 accessible through one button that you hit multiple times to cycle
 through the saved rates.
 
 really nice application though. this will be used!

Thanks. I knew this question would come up ;-)

I have different ideas (store and select different exchange rates, get rates 
over internet, ...).

The reason I wrote it - I am travelling in Febuary. So new features will not 
come until March...

Cheers,
 Christian

PS: does anyone know a good API for C++ to get exchange rates?

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Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?

2010-01-14 Thread Brolin Empey
Fabian Schölzel wrote:
 Hi rhn,

 i understand your point of view. Everybody should do as he wish. But i
 think if somebody wants to give that gift to everybody, he should be
 allowed to do so, while others are free to say no thanks, i don't
 want to know. For my self, i think it is some kind of different to
 your way, but in the end, it comes out the same. The people that know
 me most, are the people i like most. That is so, because i spend more
 time with people i like, therefore i talk more with them than others.
 That is why they know more (or/and deeper). I would tell others the
 same stories and infos about me, in the same deepness - if they are
 interested. The topic and the deepness will change with the people and
 they're interests, of course.

 But then again, teh interwebs is different. One can be as verbose as
 he likes, and others can read what they like.

I agree with you, Fabian.  However, I think you should use “he or she” 
instead of using masculine pronouns as if they were sex/gender-neutral. 
  This subject is covered in Ellen Spertus’s 1991 paper titled “Why are 
There so Few Female Computer Scientists?”:

http://people.mills.edu/spertus/Gender/pap/pap.html

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incorrect message dates (was Re: New project openmokontrol)

2010-01-14 Thread Brolin Empey
Gennady,

Your clock is set to 2010-10 instead of 2010-01.  Please correct your clock.

Thanks,
Brolin

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Re: QCurrency - simple currency calculator

2010-01-14 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net wrote:
 Thanks. I knew this question would come up ;-)

 I have different ideas (store and select different exchange rates, get rates 
 over internet, ...).

 The reason I wrote it - I am travelling in Febuary. So new features will not 
 come until March...

february you say...  hope your not taking cathay pacific! [traveling
then too, hence my sudden extreme interest in this application]

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Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?

2010-01-14 Thread Fabian Schölzel
On Thursday 14. January 2010 22:15:16, Brolin Empey Empey wrote:
 I agree with you, Fabian.  However, I think you should use “he or she”
 instead of using masculine pronouns as if they were sex/gender-neutral.

I had a bad feeling when writing this. :) My mother tongue is german, so i 
think this is translated badly. In Germany, we have a phrase Jeder wie er 
mag., wich would be Everybody how he likes. in word-for-word translation. 
Would One should do as one likes. be better?

Guten Abend und schöne Grüße! ;)
Fabian

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Re: QCurrency - simple currency calculator

2010-01-14 Thread Christian Rüb
  The reason I wrote it - I am travelling in Febuary. So new features will 
  not come until March...
 
 february you say...  hope your not taking cathay pacific! [traveling
 then too, hence my sudden extreme interest in this application]

No, different airline ;-)

If you need to change the rate, you can edit .config/QCurrency/QCurrency.conf, 
or write a simple script (sed...) to set your value there...
You could even use coordinates to set proper rate for the country you are in ;-)

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Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-01-14 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/8 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com:

 If you want to have a quick grab of the new kernel for Debian (or any
 distro that loads uImage from a file), I put my compilation of kernel
 and modules to 
 http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/kernel_20100108_nodebug_nopreempt/

I've just installed Timo's kernel from
http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/kernel_20100108_nodebug_nopreempt/uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_oma-andy-2a04ce8203d7d0f1.bin,
and indeed it does feel a lot snappier.  Even more so when I remember
to switch frameworkd logging back from DEBUG to WARNING :-).

But I noticed two apparent changes/regressions.

1. The openmoko-panel-plugin battery icon doesn't notice changes to
the battery charging state.  I can force it to notice by clicking on
the icon, but it doesn't notice itself.  I guess that means that the
dbus signals for charging status are not working.

2. My habitual finger presses on the screen don't always register.  Is
it possible that this new kernel has a less sensitive touchscreen
configuration than my previous kernel?

My previous kernel was the Debian 2.6.28 one:
uImage.bin-2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26.

Any comments?

Thanks,
   Neil

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Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-14 Thread Rafael Campos
Hi, i'm the silent man here ;)

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
mic...@vanille-media.de wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 22:52 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja:
 Not really new hardware but have you seen Rafeal's attempt to get FSO
 working on the hardware that compulab exeda is based on. He should
 still have the compulab developer kit we gave him around. He is
 planning to shift to Brazil so in case you want the kit I will check
 with him if he can ship it to you

 Sure, if he no longer is using it, I'd like to have a look at it.

As i told to rakshat, i sent the board with other electronic devices
to Brazil, i hope to have it there in 60 days (aprox. as It's
traveling by ship).

Michael, it would be a pleasure to get more effort on it once i have
it in Brazil. If i receive in time to come back in April, i would sent
you if you are still interested and i didn't do any progress ;)

 Regards,

Regards,
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Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?

2010-01-14 Thread Ben Cadieux
Hi Brolin,

 Can you provide some specific examples, other than saying I want to fuck
 Tamara, which should not surprise her since she already knew that?  I
 know some people think I should not have mentioned her (full) name in
 such a context, but it is too late now.

I was referring to that comment more than most others.

 However, I am not concerned about embarrassment because I believe I have
 nothing to lose by volunteering the personal information in my previous
 posts.  For example, I would not have met Alishams if I never posted my
 original message in this thread.

I wasn't suggesting not posting at all, simply being more cautious :)

 I finally realised why your name seems familiar:  you are the author of
 WDe.  I e-mailed you about WDe in 2006. :)

Hah!  What a strange coincidence!  I live in the Lower Mainland too, by the way.

You mentioned difficulty talking to strangers.  You were able to
message me out of the blue about WDe - apply that example to your
personal life.  Find some common ground.  Someone else mentioned
volunteering to meet people.  If you volunteer doing something you
care about, you immediately have some common ground to start talking
with other volunteers - they are likely there because they care about
the same things.

Best Regards,
Ben Cadieux

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Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?

2010-01-14 Thread Brolin Empey
Fabian Schölzel wrote:
 On Thursday 14. January 2010 22:15:16, Brolin Empey Empey wrote:
 I agree with you, Fabian.  However, I think you should use “he or she”
 instead of using masculine pronouns as if they were sex/gender-neutral.

 I had a bad feeling when writing this. :) My mother tongue is german, so i
 think this is translated badly. In Germany, we have a phrase Jeder wie er
 mag., wich would be Everybody how he likes. in word-for-word translation.
 Would One should do as one likes. be better?

Yes, or “One should do as he or she likes.”.

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Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread c_c




  The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. 
http://in.yahoo.com/

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Re: elm_browser initial release

2010-01-14 Thread c_c

Hi,

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 working very well. i would almost tend to say no more features to keep
 it fast
 
  I would agree :)

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 Rotation issue has already been reported.
 
  It takes a little while and refreshing the window by going to another apps
window and bck seems to help. I'll have to experiment with it a bit - or set
it as a post-restart kind of a config.

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 The show images doesn't work seems to me. 
 
  It's a place holder for now. The webkit-efl port doesn't seem to expose
the settings part. I'll try it directly with the webkit API.

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet.
 
  A! I missed that.

Petr Vanek wrote:
 
 Commandline url not accepted yet.
 
  Haven't added it yet. Soon.

Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions.

  Need a name and icon too!

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Re: AW: New project openmokontrol

2010-01-14 Thread Denis Johnson
Any progress on NIDED being available ? I still can't find it.

cheers Denis

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:13 AM, David Wagner deubeul...@gmail.com wrote:
 hab keen oh ne a écrit :
 You could extrakt the ipkg file and move the binary to /usr/bin. Otherwise 
 you could install the debian package, which should soon be available in the 
 Hackable:1 feeds.


 It will be available tomorrow at
 http://build.hackable1.org/debian/dists/wip/main/binary-armel/ (and for
 some other archs too)

 I tested it, it's awesome :D

 David


 
 Von: Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com
 An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Gesendet: Dienstag, den 12. Januar 2010, 10:11:15 Uhr
 Betreff: Re: New project openmokontrol

 Any idea if it is possible or how I can install this on QTMoko V16 ?

 On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote:
 You may try
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED
 Regards
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Re: pisi depenencies

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Pilgermann
Good morning Vinzenz,

I think, I did not fully understand you question - I am noticing that now. It's 
not about PISI in particular, but more about how I integrated the syncml thing 
...??

Well - let me start this way: It was a pain in the ass! Honestly. Libs are 
really rare - and documentation is even rarer. 
I tried a few of them - ending up with an alpha branch of Conduit 
(http://live.gnome.org/Conduit). In the sources I found some unstable code for 
syncing against Syncml 
(http://git.gnome.org/browse/conduit/tree/conduit/modules/SyncmlModule?h=syncml).
 I applied some changes and integrated that into PISI 
(http://github.com/kichkasch/pisi/tree/master/thirdparty/conduit/).

I am still not sure, how you exactly want to integrate with libsyncml ... but I 
hope, this helps a bit.
As I said: from a Desktop I can sucessfully sync against Syncml-Server (here 
Mobical) with PISI.

Best
Michael


 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:17:12 +0100
 Von: Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch
 An: Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de
 Betreff: Re: pisi depenencies

 hey michael,
 
 i've installed the last version of libsyncml, but it doesn't work (but i
 don't 
 know, if qtopia really use syncml..)
 
 the ouput from telnet is this:
 
 skams...@skamster:~$ telnet 192.168.0.203 4245
 Trying 192.168.0.203...
 Connected to 192.168.0.203.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 Qtopia 
 4.4.3;challenge={b7203c47-06bf-4878-9ff5-6afffb2db546};loginname=root;displayname=;protocol=2;system=Qtopia;model=Uncustomized
 Device;hexversion=263171;datasets=calendar contacts tasks
 CALLB QD/QDSync forwardedMessage(QString,QString,QByteArray) 
 HABRAEQALwBRAHQAbwBwAGkAYQA0AFMAeQBuAGMaAGMAbABpAGUAbgB0AEUAcgByAG8AcgAoACn/
 Connection closed by foreign host.
 skams...@skamster:~$
 
 i didn't do others testing, but one little thing i've seen.. by
 self-compiling 
 librarys the name is libsyncml.so.2, not libsyncml.so.0 ... may this helps
 you 
 to make this module more stable?
 
 ah, and it didn't work with the libsyncml in version 4.6 (which was in my
 repo 
 ;) )
 
 i will test the rest later.. but thanks for the mail.. :)
 
 vinzenz
 
 ---
 Michael schrieb am Donnerstag 14 Januar 2010:
 Hi Vinzenz,
 
 in fact, Syncml support is fully implemented in PISI already; however, I
 haven't yet managed to get all the required libs into PISI - that's why
 it's not yet in the release (and commented in the config file).
 
 The file you are asking for is in the repos
 (http://github.com/kichkasch/pisi/blob/master/thirdparty/conduit/SyncmlModule.py)
 already; however, this again will depend on 'pysyncml', which in turn
 depends on syncmllib ...
 
 On my desktop I have successfully used the module already ... hope, I
 (or somebody) can create and apply a recipe for SHR from libsyncml
 (https://libsyncml.opensync.org/) soon ... off we would go then ...
 
 As temporary solution for your desktop:
 1) Install libsyncml (download sources from link given above) with
 required deps (something with xml and another one)
 2) Extract the attached archive to '/opt/pisi/thirdparty'
 
 
 3) give me feedback ;) ... good luck!
 
 Michael
 
 
 On 01/14/2010 05:10 PM, Vinzenz Hersche wrote:
  hello all,
  
  i just want to know if there's a package for python/syncml on
 desktop-pc's.. 
  it's because of pisi:
  skams...@skamster:~$ pisigui 
  Xlib:  extension RANDR missing on display :0.0.
  Configuring
  Starting synchronization   
  My configuration is:   
  Mode is 0 - calendar   
  In case of conflicts I use the following strategy: Skip
  Reading configfile: /home/skamster/.pisi/conf  
  ics-module using file /home/skamster/cal.ics   
  Traceback (most recent call last): 
File /usr/bin/pisigui, line 296, in startSync  
  source = pisi.importModules(configfolder,  config,  modulesToLoad,  
  modulesNamesCombined, False)
File /opt/pisi/pisi.py, line 81, in importModules   

  exec from modules import  + modulename +  as module+i.__str__() 

File string, line 1, in module  

File /opt/pisi/modules/calendar_syncml.py, line 34, in module 

  import thirdparty.conduit.SyncmlModule as SyncmlModule   
  
  i found nowhere something about this importet module. but if my idea is 
 right 
  (that sync on qtmoko works with syncml) it would be great, because then
 it's 
  possible to sync all calendar- and contact-data betwen pc, web and
 moko.. :)
  
  and i use sidux, but it's most time similiar to ubuntu (if someone
 know's 
  where the right package is.. )
  
  greets