Re: [Community Updates] 2010-01-14 released

2010-01-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 20-01-2010 10:42, Patryk Benderz escreveu:
 [cut]
 I know, I didn't have time to update the CU, but elmdentica's latest
 release didn't show up :)
 Hi Rui,
 sorry we missed elmdentica this time, but it sometimes just happens. Can
 you point me to your post on ML, where you gave info about new release?
 Latest i could find in my mailbox is: ElmDentica 0.7.0 is out! dated
 on 2009-10-12 which is rather old. Could it be, we missed it also on
 previous CUs ??? If so, than I am terribly sorry, but believe me,
 getting all this information from many sources and combining them
 together sometimes is an uneasy task. Sometimes something gets lost in
 this process.

Don't be sorry, it's also partly my fault, it seems that I forgot to 
forward a mail to the mailing list and add it to the current talk page 
of the community news :)

It went into the planet, unless something wrong happened.

Anyway, it is the latest article in http://blog.1407.org/tag/openmoko

Rui


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Re: elm_browser and https

2010-01-22 Thread c_c

Hi,

D. Gassen wrote:
 
 english news sites require a link to have the tag English and News.
 
  I kind of get the concept. I'll add the ability to add tags to a bookmark,
search for a bookmark on the basis of tags and group bookmarks by tags.
  Lets see how that goes to begin with.

D. Gassen wrote:
 
 If you're familiar with Aperture on the Mac (or Lightroom should have a
 similar concept) then you'd probably know what I mean.
 
  I haven't used mac except for a hackintosh ;) No exposure to aperture
though. But the idea is interesting. 
 
  Having the bookmarks in a sqlite db makes them portable too if something
comes up in the future.
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Re: [wikireader] Rudimentary support for several wikis

2010-01-22 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
Le 21/01/2010 19:07, Tom Bachmann a écrit :
 Alright. The latest commit has a ChangeCollection script. Use it like this:

 ChangeCollection.py --from=none --to=1 --prefix=/path/to/image/pedia
 --dat-offset=${next free dat}

 where ${next free dat} is the first unused number in the .dat namespace
 of the english wiki. This will take a long while (it has to decompress
 and recompress all articles!), but it is probably faster than
 re-rendering everything (on my laptop it takes about 40 seconds to patch
 1000 articles).
 Next copy the pedia.idx, pedia.pfx, pedia.fnd, pedia.hsh, pedia?.dat of
 the english wiki to your image, renaming to pedia0.idx, pedia0.pfx,
 pedia0.fnd, pedia0.hsh (the pedia?.dat can keep their names). If you now
 boot my kernel, you should be able to change between both wikis, as
 described in my first post.

 Please tell me if everything works as expected.
I have other Wikis to test with, (french + bosnian + lituanian) but I 
still have two questions :
#1 : I can't find your ChangeCollection.py script : where did you hide 
it ?
#2 : How can you find the last id in .dat file ? for me it is not 
humanly readable...
#3 (extra bonus question)  : Don't you think it would be possible to 
automatize those steps ?
The last steps are very easy to do. ;-), I think I'll manage to do it.

Thanks for your nice job.

AstHrO



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Re: Experimental technique for testing call audio quality?

2010-01-22 Thread Helge Hafting
Neil Jerram wrote:
 From the recent survey, it seems that several people are still
 experiencing bad call audio quality; and I've personally had some bad
 reports of this recently (and my phone has been buzz-fixed).
 
 One of the problems, with trying to work on this, is finding a way to
 test audio quality repeatedly without spending lots of money on call
 charges and without taking up a lot of someone else's time (as the
 callee).  Can anyone suggest an experimental technique that is
 reliable - in the sense of being close enough to what really happens
 on a call - and that doesn't take a lot of money or someone else's
 time?
 
 The best I've found so far is to call my work voicemail, speak to it,
 and get it to play my recording back to me.  But that's still costing
 a bit.  Any better ideas?
 
To test the quality of analog components (mic, amplifier, speaker):

* Record voice (or test tones) to a file. Transfer the file to a
   computer with a good soundcard, to check quality.

* Get a sound file of known quality, transfer it to the FR.
   Play it (alsaplayer or some other audio player)
   and check the quality.

With this, you should get an idea of what sound the FR is
capable of. Tweak relevant volume settings; too little
is hard to hear, too much may clip and distort.

Calls will surely not be better than what you can get this
way. Ideally, you should be able to get calls up to
the same quality as this, by tweaking volume settings. Calls are digital 
  and shouldn't have sound distortion of its own. At least not worse 
than other phones.

The current default call volumes in SHR-U are quite bad, which may be 
the reason for many recent reports of audio problem. Anyone installing 
SHR-U should call themselves (on some other phone) and adjust both
mic volume and speaker volume.  (And then reboot the phone,
so the settings are saved.)

If the FR sound quality is too bad, consider a BT headset. Sound quality 
should then depend on the BT headset only. The FR's problems with buzz, 
bad bass, and possibly other analog issues shouldn't matter at all.

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Re: Experimental technique for testing call audio quality?

2010-01-22 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Neil Jerram a écrit :
 The best I've found so far is to call my work voicemail, speak to it,
 and get it to play my recording back to me.  But that's still costing
 a bit.  Any better ideas?
 

Same thing here, but with my own number. In one shot I can leave a 
message, listen it, delete it. And it's cheap.


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Re: elm_browser and https

2010-01-22 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
c_c a écrit :
   @Xavier Cremaschi - can you tell me what happens? Try running the browser
 from the terminal to see if webkit throws up any debug messages.

I see nothing in terminal :

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser
restoring state
db ver 1
showing window
Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.

Symptoms : I can't follow any https link (click = no action)


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Re: [Debian] installed on uSD ext3 using uboot

2010-01-22 Thread Joif

[SOLVED]
reading the SHR manual I noticed that:

Loading the Kernel
A pair of u-boot commands must be used to load the kernel from SD. First is
mmcinit, which will cause u-boot to detect the card. Next is a command to
load a file into memory - either fatload or ext2load depending on
whether the kernel is on a FAT filesytem or an ext2/ext3 filesystem.
The command syntax is:
fatload mmc 1:p 0x3200 filepath
ext2load mmc 1:p 0x3200 filepath
where p is the partition number, and filepath is the path to the file
that is to be loaded.

but I passed the ext2load parameter to uboot without filepath. Uboot was
not able to load uImage.bin because it was in /boot directory, a symlink of
uboot.bin did the trick :)

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[debian/fso] phonefsod: unpredictable pin dialog and questions abot config options

2010-01-22 Thread arne anka
within normal operation (runlevel) phonefsod does not work predicatble.
small changes in the phonefsod.conf made it stop entirely (w/o any useful  
info in the log despite DEBUG) and small changes in eg fsodeviced seemed  
to fix that ...

what looks far more confusing to me is, that phonefsod always gets a lower  
pid than fsodeviced, fsousage or frameworkd -- despite being started later  
according to the number assigned in /etc/rc3.d:
S01dbus
...
S02fso-deviced
S02fso-frameworkd
...
S03phonefsod

since accessing (activating?) the gsm means, one of the otheres has to be  
activae already.

but after a few repeated tests, a reliable way to make phonefsod to pop  
the pin dialog seems to be:
- stop everything (fso and maybe dbus), i do that by swithcing to runlevel  
two which does not start anything
- manually start dbus, fso-deviced and fso-frameworkd
/etc/init.d/dbus start ; /etc/init.d/fso-frameworkd start
- let cook slowly
- after a few minutes tart everything else, i do that with
init 3
which starts X and phonefsod
- pin dialog will pop up every time

but that certainly is no way to go in case of an emergency reboot or  
similar ...
to me it looks either like one of the timeout issues again -- in zhone,  
neil worked around that by retrying until eventually the registration  
would be possible.
or phonefsod starts far too fast and fails to access the not yet available  
gsm, never recovering from that disappointment.

in the course of actions, i was wondering about the phonefsod.conf (yes, i  
read the comments):
- should ophonekitd try to activate GSM on startup -- what does  
ophonekitd has to do with phonefsod.conf?
- gsm_reregister_timeout = 60 -- what does reregister mean here? when is  
the first registering attempted?
- when to show idle screen -- disabling the associated option does not  
disable the idle screen at all and there's no parameter to disable
- auto_suspend = [never|normal|always] -- what part does auto suspend  
refer to? the freerunner as such? a resource? what is the difference  
between normal and always?




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Re: External blkid library not found

2010-01-22 Thread Vaudano Luca
I saw the difference between the bitbake command and the command line command.
From bitbake
arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-pkg-config...
/mnt/shr/shr-testing/tmp/staging/i686-linux/usr/bin/pkg-config
from the command line (after the setup-env)
checking for arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config,
which is the correct one?
and what can I do?

Thanks
regards
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Re: elm_browser and https

2010-01-22 Thread Josh Thompson
On Friday January 22, 2010, Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
 c_c a écrit :
@Xavier Cremaschi - can you tell me what happens? Try running the
  browser from the terminal to see if webkit throws up any debug messages.

 I see nothing in terminal :

 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser
 restoring state
 db ver 1
 showing window
 Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
 Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.

 Symptoms : I can't follow any https link (click = no action)

I was having the same problem and launched browser with strace.  I found I was 
just missing /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt.  I copied that in from my 
desktop machine.  After that, I was able to access https sites.

Josh

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Re: elm_browser and https

2010-01-22 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Josh Thompson a écrit :
 On Friday January 22, 2010, Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
 c_c a écrit :
   @Xavier Cremaschi - can you tell me what happens? Try running the
 browser from the terminal to see if webkit throws up any debug messages.
 I see nothing in terminal :

 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser
 restoring state
 db ver 1
 showing window
 Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
 Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.

 Symptoms : I can't follow any https link (click = no action)
 
 I was having the same problem and launched browser with strace.  I found I 
 was 
 just missing /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt.  I copied that in from my 
 desktop machine.  After that, I was able to access https sites.
 
 Josh

Nice ! It works now... I thought certificates came with curl-certs, but 
I didn't have any /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt indeed...

Thanks !


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Re: Experimental technique for testing call audio quality?

2010-01-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes:
 the same quality as this, by tweaking volume settings. Calls are digital 

The audio data is fed to the GSM chip in analog form however.

 If the FR sound quality is too bad, consider a BT headset. Sound quality 
 should then depend on the BT headset only. The FR's problems with buzz, 
 bad bass, and possibly other analog issues shouldn't matter at all.

Even in this case the audio is fed in analog form to the GSM chip.


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Re: [debian/fso] phonefsod: unpredictable pin dialog and questions abot config options

2010-01-22 Thread Klaus Kurzmann
Am Freitag 22 Januar 2010 18:52:58 schrieb arne anka:
 within normal operation (runlevel) phonefsod does not work predicatble.
 small changes in the phonefsod.conf made it stop entirely (w/o any useful
 info in the log despite DEBUG) and small changes in eg fsodeviced seemed
 to fix that ...
 
 what looks far more confusing to me is, that phonefsod always gets a lower
 pid than fsodeviced, fsousage or frameworkd -- despite being started later
 according to the number assigned in /etc/rc3.d:
 S01dbus
 ...
 S02fso-deviced
 S02fso-frameworkd
 ...
 S03phonefsod
 
 since accessing (activating?) the gsm means, one of the otheres has to be
 activae already.
 
 but after a few repeated tests, a reliable way to make phonefsod to pop
 the pin dialog seems to be:
 - stop everything (fso and maybe dbus), i do that by swithcing to runlevel
 two which does not start anything
 - manually start dbus, fso-deviced and fso-frameworkd
 /etc/init.d/dbus start ; /etc/init.d/fso-frameworkd start
 - let cook slowly
 - after a few minutes tart everything else, i do that with
 init 3
 which starts X and phonefsod
 - pin dialog will pop up every time
 
 but that certainly is no way to go in case of an emergency reboot or
 similar ...
 to me it looks either like one of the timeout issues again -- in zhone,
 neil worked around that by retrying until eventually the registration
 would be possible.
 or phonefsod starts far too fast and fails to access the not yet available
 gsm, never recovering from that disappointment.
hmm, strange thing. This is exactly what we intend to do... retry to access 
FSO until it appears on the scene... and then list the resources and register 
GSM if it is there... if not, wait for the signal that the GSM resource 
appeared.

 
 in the course of actions, i was wondering about the phonefsod.conf (yes, i
 read the comments):
 - should ophonekitd try to activate GSM on startup -- what does
 ophonekitd has to do with phonefsod.conf?
ouch - nothing :P don't remember if that part of the conf came from ophonekitd 
and I forgot to adjust the comment or if I was still used to the old name when 
writing that comment. Should read phonefsod.

 - gsm_reregister_timeout = 60 -- what does reregister mean here? when is
 the first registering attempted?
reregister kicks in when you are without network coverage. Either on start or 
afterwards. It determines the seconds how often to schedule a try to register 
to the network. This is needed, because we don't get notified if some usable 
network (re-)appears.

 - when to show idle screen -- disabling the associated option does not
 disable the idle screen at all and there's no parameter to disable
Disabling it lets the default kick in, which is aux,lock. Try if setting it to 
an empty string works. Should.

 - auto_suspend = [never|normal|always] -- what part does auto suspend
 refer to? the freerunner as such? a resource? what is the difference
 between normal and always?
suspend to mem the complete device. Not refering to a specific resource. It is 
using FSO for that (org.freesmartphone.Usage.Suspend). Normal does _not_ 
suspend the device while the battery is getting charged. Always does suspend 
it even then.

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Re: [debian/fso] phonefsod: unpredictable pin dialog and questions abot config options

2010-01-22 Thread Sebastian Reichel
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:03:07PM +0100, arne anka wrote:
  hmm, strange thing. This is exactly what we intend to do... retry to  
  access FSO until it appears on the scene... and then list the resources  
  and register GSM if it is there... if not, wait for the signal that the  
  GSM resource
  appeared.
 
 well, that's what i thought.
 i've seen two different scenarios, when no pin dialog appears:
 one was a message like could not set environment or something to that  
 effect.
 the other one, that phonefsod apparently waits forever (although fsousaged  
 lists it as gsm user in its log and fso-abyss is started).
 
 please bear in mind, that debian's frameworkd is not quite up to date, if  
 i recall mickey's comments a while back correctly.

fso-frameworkd in pkg-fso is currently a git checkout from 20090920.
There will be a git head version in the next hour, but there were
only changed in opimd and a small fix for ogpsd since then. This
will most probably not fix your problem!

I guess mickey meant the framework from Debian main repository,
which is VERY old (~ one year).

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Re: [debian/fso] phonefsod: unpredictable pin dialog and questions abot config options

2010-01-22 Thread arne anka
 only changed in opimd and a small fix for ogpsd since then.

a link to the changelog?

 This will most probably not fix your problem!

that's quite possible, i added the remark only i case the issue was  
related to differences in frameworkd between the one debian uses and the  
shr one (since shr is the development platform for fso, iirc).

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Re: Experimental technique for testing call audio quality?

2010-01-22 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/22 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no:

 To test the quality of analog components (mic, amplifier, speaker):

 * Record voice (or test tones) to a file. Transfer the file to a
   computer with a good soundcard, to check quality.

 * Get a sound file of known quality, transfer it to the FR.
   Play it (alsaplayer or some other audio player)
   and check the quality.

 With this, you should get an idea of what sound the FR is
 capable of. Tweak relevant volume settings; too little
 is hard to hear, too much may clip and distort.

Many thanks.  I have indeed - but very slowly - been following this
kind of approach.

I figured that it made sense to look at the ringtone volume problem
first, as that should be easier, and because in-call quality is not so
important if one is missing the calls anyway.

So FWIW I've been trying to understand all the available information
about the Wolfson codec, and the *.state files.

I've nothing really to report yet, just one hunch, namely that the
structure of the alsa state management - i.e. saving and restoring all
of the settings when the scenario changes - makes this audio
situation harder to understand and to improve.  I'm wondering about an
alternative approach where the deltas between the state files are
grouped into a number of independent operations, like 'enable GSM
input', 'set PCM volume to X' etc.

One specific thing I noticed is that gsmhandset.state has control.90
DAPM Headset Mic Switch set to true.  I wonder if that could be a
source of extra noise (when using the handset)?

 Calls will surely not be better than what you can get this
 way. Ideally, you should be able to get calls up to
 the same quality as this, by tweaking volume settings. Calls are digital
  and shouldn't have sound distortion of its own. At least not worse
 than other phones.

 The current default call volumes in SHR-U are quite bad, which may be
 the reason for many recent reports of audio problem. Anyone installing
 SHR-U should call themselves (on some other phone) and adjust both
 mic volume and speaker volume.  (And then reboot the phone,
 so the settings are saved.)

Thanks.

 If the FR sound quality is too bad, consider a BT headset. Sound quality
 should then depend on the BT headset only. The FR's problems with buzz,
 bad bass, and possibly other analog issues shouldn't matter at all.

I guess so - but I really hope and believe that handset audio quality
is a soluble problem.

Regards,
   Neil

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Re: Experimental technique for testing call audio quality?

2010-01-22 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/22 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com:
 Neil Jerram a écrit :
 The best I've found so far is to call my work voicemail, speak to it,
 and get it to play my recording back to me.  But that's still costing
 a bit.  Any better ideas?


 Same thing here, but with my own number. In one shot I can leave a
 message, listen it, delete it. And it's cheap.

Good idea, thanks!

 Neil

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digital audio paths (Was: Re: Experimental technique for testing call audio quality? )

2010-01-22 Thread Stefano Cavallari
On Friday 22 January 2010 20:13:58 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes:
  the same quality as this, by tweaking volume settings. Calls are digital
 
 The audio data is fed to the GSM chip in analog form however.
 
  If the FR sound quality is too bad, consider a BT headset. Sound quality
  should then depend on the BT headset only. The FR's problems with buzz,
  bad bass, and possibly other analog issues shouldn't matter at all.
 
 Even in this case the audio is fed in analog form to the GSM chip.
 
Why on hell GSM chips are still done this way?
I hope whatever next open phone comes around it's totally digital.
Audio lines maybe were a good idea for phones with few cpu power available, 
but now it's only a waste of PCB space I think. 
The hardware becomes more flexible and maybe you can do some DSP to enhance the 
voice. Or implement an answering machine inside the phone. 
Do anyone know about recent GSM chips? I'm still dreaming a up-to-date open 
phone :)
Is there a standard to do voice-audio-codec over multiplexed AT channel?
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Re: [debian/fso] phonefsod: unpredictable pin dialog and questions abot config options

2010-01-22 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Hi,

frameworkd and phonefsod are updated. So your next report would be
based on git head ;)

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Ventura and https

2010-01-22 Thread c_c

Hi,
  Can some users confirm the version of webkit that works? I have
v1.1.18+svnr52207-r52207-r0.4 installed and I get an 'unable to create
webview' error in eve.

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Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-01-22 Thread Denis Johnson
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes:
 That ticket seems to describe a similiar problem with wifi, it doesn't
 mention GSM. Or are both handled by a common piece of hardware?

 No. GSM runs on a separate ARM processor and is accessed over a serial
 port.

As reported by me and others, WIFI is periodically not available after
a reboot and there is some suggestion that the faster kernel may be
exposing some timing related issues.

I'm not yet certain if this issue is also being caused by the timing
issues, but on my QtMoko v16b with the nodebug kernel I'm not only
experiencing the WIFI problem but more importantly I'm seeing some GSM
and SIM related problems. I frequnetly go to make a call and the
dialer drops out wihtout errors. If someone can tell me where to look
and what to provide to help debug this, then do so. I also sometimes
get errors sending SMS and other times get sim card not ready when
trying to delete SMS.

I just wanted to report these as a data point and if anyone wants more
details and logs, please ask.

cheers Denis

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