Re: FOSS GSM baseband

2010-02-20 Thread Juergen Schinker
Alishams Hassam wrote:
 yay, someone is working on free gsm baseband software! It is called
 OsmocomBB and is found here: http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ They're not
 targeting the freerunner but some Calypso that is different from ours.
 They claim different calypsos should be easy enough to port to. My
 geek bone is tingling.
 
 
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this someone is very well known and is Harald Welte and friends

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Re: Debian - issues

2010-02-20 Thread omcomali . rhn
Thanks for the responses! I thought the debug-disabled kernel gave only ~20% 
speedup, that's a nice surprise!

I guess I'm going to wait for a new kernel as Timo suggested.

By the way, can any of the Debian gurus suggest an easy way to rebuild a Debian 
package with different build options? And would a shared library built this way 
work on SHR?

Cheers,
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Re: Debian - issues

2010-02-20 Thread Sebastian Reichel
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 02:04:03PM +0100, omcomali@porcupinefactory.org 
wrote:
 I guess I'm going to wait for a new kernel as Timo suggested.

I guess I will upload one later today. It will require loading more
modules @ boot time. I hope this will ease migration to the normal
Debian kernel once it's ready :)

 By the way, can any of the Debian gurus suggest an easy way to rebuild a 
 Debian
 package with different build options? And would a shared library built this 
 way
 work on SHR?

roughly said it can be done like this:

apt-get source $package
edit the debian/rules file according to your needs
dpkg-buildpackage

I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence. If you change e.g.
libphone-ui you just have to make sure, that the ABI remains the
same. Btw. which build options are you talking about?

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Re: Debian - issues

2010-02-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
omcomali@porcupinefactory.org writes:
 By the way, can any of the Debian gurus suggest an easy way to
 rebuild a Debian package with different build options? And would a
 shared library built this way work on SHR?

Here's an example:

1) apt-get source nano
2) cd nano*
3) edit debian/rules and look for the call to ../configure
4) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
5) you can now find binary packages in ..


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RE: problems getting android to run

2010-02-20 Thread Niels Heyvaert



 Any hints / suggestions?

Hi yoyo,

You could consider posting your AoF related questions on the AoF mailing list:

http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner

Niels.
  
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Voice quality on FreeRunner A7 ?

2010-02-20 Thread pbondo

Hi folks

My current FreeRunner A6 (buzz fixed) has at best had a medium voice quality
during phone calls. I.e. I could heat the other party well, but (s)he could
only hear me just about acceptable. Now my phone has started freezing on me.
I believe it is a hardware problem so I plan to toss it away (or use it as a
developer phone).

I have then borrowed another buzz fixed A6 from a friend. It does not freeze
(with the same SDCard), but the voice quality on the other end of a phone
call is just plain awful.

I am considering buying a new A7+ simply because there some things about
this phone and the software that I like :-)

However I would like to hear about other peoples experiences with voice
quality on A7 phones e.g. compared to other mobile phones. Have they just
fixed the buzz, or can I expect a good voice quality on phone calls ?

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Re: Debian - issues

2010-02-20 Thread Sebastian Reichel
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 04:48:11PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 omcomali@porcupinefactory.org writes:
  By the way, can any of the Debian gurus suggest an easy way to
  rebuild a Debian package with different build options? And would a
  shared library built this way work on SHR?
 
 3) edit debian/rules and look for the call to ../configure

as you were talking about SHR - there's no configure call in the
rules files of SHR packages since I use CDBS for packaging. Just
add this line to the rules file:

DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS = --my-cool-parameter

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Re: Voice quality on FreeRunner A7 ?

2010-02-20 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 20 February 2010, pbondo wrote:
 Hi folks
 
 My current FreeRunner A6 (buzz fixed) has at best had a medium voice
  quality during phone calls. I.e. I could heat the other party well, but
  (s)he could only hear me just about acceptable. Now my phone has started
  freezing on me. I believe it is a hardware problem so I plan to toss it
  away (or use it as a developer phone).
 
 I have then borrowed another buzz fixed A6 from a friend. It does not
  freeze (with the same SDCard), but the voice quality on the other end of a
  phone call is just plain awful.

Describe 'awful'. It probably just needs a tweak to the volume settings, and 
we can help with that. With the right volume settings my FR is on a par with 
my k700i.

 I am considering buying a new A7+ simply because there some things about
 this phone and the software that I like :-)
 
 However I would like to hear about other peoples experiences with voice
 quality on A7 phones e.g. compared to other mobile phones. Have they just
 fixed the buzz, or can I expect a good voice quality on phone calls ?

Audio is AFAIK the same as a buzz-fixed A5 and A6.

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Re: Debian - issues

2010-02-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com writes:
 as you were talking about SHR - there's no configure call in the

Ah, it's very confusing that SHR is both the name of a distribution
and a program?


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Re: Debian - issues

2010-02-20 Thread Sebastian Reichel
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 07:56:42PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com writes:
  as you were talking about SHR - there's no configure call in the
 
 Ah, it's very confusing that SHR is both the name of a distribution
 and a program?

it's a distribution and they wrote their own phone stack, but none
of their programs is called shr :) Actually their old software stack
had shr in its application's names, but now they switched to include
phone in the names of their apps.

I just guessed he meant the software stack of them because their
distribution uses openembedded and not *.deb files ;)

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ffalarms 0.3.2 -- editing of recurring alarms

2010-02-20 Thread Łukasz Pankowski
Hi all,

I have just released new ffalarms 0.3.2

Notes:
- add editing of recurring alarms

- clicking anywhere inside summary box activates it (closes: #300)

- compiles with current libeflvala (a18c70a, 2010-01-26)


Download (if you want it before it hits SHR-u):
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=260release_id=594


The source code is now hosted in a git repository at

http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=ffalarms.git;a=summary


Next TODO:
- snoozing (as always no time guaranty)

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Re: Debian - issues

2010-02-20 Thread omcomali . rhn
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:13:37 +0100
Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 02:04:03PM +0100, omcomali@porcupinefactory.org 
 wrote:
  I guess I'm going to wait for a new kernel as Timo suggested.
 
 I guess I will upload one later today. It will require loading more
 modules @ boot time. I hope this will ease migration to the normal
 Debian kernel once it's ready :)
 
  By the way, can any of the Debian gurus suggest an easy way to rebuild a 
  Debian
  package with different build options? And would a shared library built this 
  way
  work on SHR?
 
 roughly said it can be done like this:
 
 apt-get source $package
 edit the debian/rules file according to your needs
 dpkg-buildpackage
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence. If you change e.g.
 libphone-ui you just have to make sure, that the ABI remains the
 same. Btw. which build options are you talking about?
 
 -- Sebastian
 

Thanks, I'm going to give it a try.

Well, I meant mostly the ABI, processor type and possible incompatibilities I 
have no idea about.
The reason behind it: I've had trouble building a package on SHR or 
openembedded cross-toolchain, so I tried to hack the problem away using 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH with Debian /usr/lib, but it resulted in illegal instructions.
I don't know the exact reason (different ABI? incompatible library versions?), 
so I was asking just in case.

The package is mrpt-libs, and the build options are its dependencies on various 
big packages I don't need or want, e.g. OpenCV.

Cheers,
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Re: Debian - issues

2010-02-20 Thread omcomali . rhn
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:12:17 +0100
Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just guessed he meant the software stack of them because their
 distribution uses openembedded and not *.deb files ;)
 
 -- Sebastian

That's right, SHR as in the distribution. I hope my other post cleared that up 
;)

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Re: ffalarms 0.3.2 -- editing of recurring alarms

2010-02-20 Thread Vladimir Berezenko
В Сбт, 20/02/2010 в 19:17 +0100, Łukasz Pankowski пишет:

 I have just released new ffalarms 0.3.2
 
 Notes:
 - add editing of recurring alarms

Can you plz also implement enabling and disabling already used alarms?
It's very annoying to delete and create alarm any time you just need to
use other time once or twice...

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Re: ffalarms 0.3.2 -- editing of recurring alarms

2010-02-20 Thread Łukasz Pankowski
Vladimir Berezenko qmas...@rambler.ru writes:

 В Сбт, 20/02/2010 в 19:17 +0100, Łukasz Pankowski пишет:

 I have just released new ffalarms 0.3.2

 Notes:
 - add editing of recurring alarms

 Can you plz also implement enabling and disabling already used alarms?
 It's very annoying to delete and create alarm any time you just need to
 use other time once or twice...

You can currently move start date to the far away future (although it
may take comparable time to deleting and recreating the alarm).

If I find the good GUI for that I may support it (but it is not a
priority now).

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Re: SHR Stable Party

2010-02-20 Thread Giovanni
Anyone in Turin, Italy?

ciao
jo


On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 2:40 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez 
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 I like the idea :) Bacelona people what do you think?
 rakshat propone hacer una party el mes que vuene el dia en que shr
 testing pase a stable, algun bareto en el que podamos quedar y hacer
 una birra para celebrarlo?
 Hacer una paralela en Madrid?
 2010/2/19 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com:
  As promised I  have put together a very basic framework of the SHR Stable
  release party planning page
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page
 
  Please go through it and add your information/ improve it/ send feedback.
 
  Currently it is only linked from the SHR page on the OM wiki
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#SHR.2FStable_release_party
 
  Please let me know the other places it should be linked from (main SHR
  wiki?)
 
 
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Re: SHR Stable Party

2010-02-20 Thread Davide Scaini
If someone interested: Trieste - Italy
:)
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Re: SHR Stable Party

2010-02-20 Thread Giovanni
done

ciao
jo


On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:58 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone in Turin, Italy?

 ciao
 jo

 Please add your name and Turin to the wiki page

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page

 Rakshat






As promised I  have put together a very basic framework of the SHR
 Stable
  release party planning page
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_Party_Page
 
  Please go through it and add your information/ improve it/ send
 feedback.
 
  Currently it is only linked from the SHR page on the OM wiki
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR#SHR.2FStable_release_party
 
  Please let me know the other places it should be linked from (main SHR
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RE: tangoGPS 0.99.3 is out

2010-02-20 Thread Helge Hafting
Marcus Bauer wrote:

Hi,

tangoGPS is out with lots of speed improvements and a lot less of CPU
usage.

Moreover the speed display is now set in pixels and no longer in
points  - especially on SHR that should result in lot smaller digits.

Very nice! The smaller speed digits is much better on this display.:-)

I have one wishlist item still:

Tangogps remembers the last position and zoom level. And it remembers if it
was logging to a file the last time it was running.
It'd be very nice if tangogps also
remembered the status of the center on gps position setting, 
instead of always defaulting to not follow the gps around.

So if I quit tangogps while the map is centering on current position, then it 
will
keep sentering on the gps position when tangogps is restarted. That way, it 
won't be necessary
to press that button everytime I restart tangogps as a map display in the car.

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Re: [SHR-U] WiFi-related memory leak

2010-02-20 Thread Denis Shulyaka
2010/2/19 Denis Shulyaka shuly...@gmail.com:
 I'll do some logging of `ps auxf`, `free` and `df -h` every 5 minutes.

OK, I did some tests today, here are the logs:
ftp://shulyaka.org.ru/pub/memlog.tar.bz2

I have rebooted the phone to get clear results, started WiFi, Midori
and transmission-daemon and run the following script:

#!/bin/bash
while true; do
STAMP=`date +%H:%M:%S`
ps axuf  ps.$STAMP
free  free.$STAMP
df -h  df.$STAMP

sleep 300
done

It writes output of `ps auxf`, `free` and `df -h` to a corresponding
file every 5 minutes.

The phone could survive for 4 hours. When I look at the phone after
about 3 hrs and 45 min the Xorg (along with vala-terminal and my
script) was already killed (the last log entry was at 3:40). However I
still was able to ssh into the phone and get some final data manually
(named *.last).
On the phone screen I saw text console with following messages:

[15237.185000] Out of memory: kill process 1409 (screen) score 188 or a child
[15237.185000] Killed process 1442 (sh)
[15237.27] Out of memory: kill process 1215 (batget) score 166 or a child
[15237.275000] Killed process 1215 (batget)
[15238.045000] Out of memory: kill process 1409 (screen) score 124 or a child
[15238.05] Killed process 1409 (screen)
[15238.22] Out of memory: kill process 1473 (udhcpc) score 118 or a child
[15238.225000] Killed process 1473 (udhcpc)
[15238.355000] Out of memory: kill process 1445 (wpa_supplicant) score
106 or a child
[15238.36] Killed process 1445 (wpa_supplicant)
[15239.005000] Out of memory: kill process 2393 (bash) score 98 or a child
[15239.01] Killed process 2405 (bash)
[16042.17] Out of memory: kill process 2391 (sshd) score 89 or a child
[16042.17] Killed process 2393 (bash)
[16068.555000] Out of memory: kill process 1083 (sshd) score 56 or a child
[16068.555000] Killed process 1083 (sshd)

What additional info I can gather?

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Re: OM future

2010-02-20 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2010/2/18 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:22 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 I pay that one! - was thinking hmmm ... looks nice ...WHAT THE F...
 when the CD appeared :)

 The CD is realistic, but the video cassette!:-)

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fso: dbus call to mark calls as old?

2010-02-20 Thread arne anka
what is the fso dbus call to mark calls as old?
phonelog doesn't change call's state and thus i got so far 3 calls shown  
in the shr lock screen, which i've seen already.

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Re: Voice quality on FreeRunner A7 ?

2010-02-20 Thread Gand'
i have a very annoying buzzing sound with the latest SHR for the caller on
my openmoko A7
i hear everything pretty well and clear, but the other side is hearing a
mettalic buzz ...
i think this is the awful here ...
can you share your tweaked volume settings ?

best regards
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Al Johnson
openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote:

 On Saturday 20 February 2010, pbondo wrote:
  Hi folks
 
  My current FreeRunner A6 (buzz fixed) has at best had a medium voice
   quality during phone calls. I.e. I could heat the other party well, but
   (s)he could only hear me just about acceptable. Now my phone has started
   freezing on me. I believe it is a hardware problem so I plan to toss it
   away (or use it as a developer phone).
 
  I have then borrowed another buzz fixed A6 from a friend. It does not
   freeze (with the same SDCard), but the voice quality on the other end of
 a
   phone call is just plain awful.

 Describe 'awful'. It probably just needs a tweak to the volume settings,
 and
 we can help with that. With the right volume settings my FR is on a par
 with
 my k700i.

  I am considering buying a new A7+ simply because there some things about
  this phone and the software that I like :-)
 
  However I would like to hear about other peoples experiences with voice
  quality on A7 phones e.g. compared to other mobile phones. Have they just
  fixed the buzz, or can I expect a good voice quality on phone calls ?

 Audio is AFAIK the same as a buzz-fixed A5 and A6.

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[Debian] new kernel package

2010-02-20 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Hi,

I just uploaded a new kernel package to the pkg-fso repository.
Please note, that you need to load 'neo1973kbd' for the buttons
to work and 'leds-neo1973-gta02' for the leds to work. You
probably want to add these to your /etc/modules.

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Re: tangoGPS 0.99.3 is out

2010-02-20 Thread Neil Brown
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:54:02 +0100
Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:

 Marcus Bauer wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 tangoGPS is out with lots of speed improvements and a lot less of CPU
 usage.
 
 Moreover the speed display is now set in pixels and no longer in
 points  - especially on SHR that should result in lot smaller digits.
 
 Very nice! The smaller speed digits is much better on this display.:-)
 
 I have one wishlist item still:
 
 Tangogps remembers the last position and zoom level. And it remembers if it
 was logging to a file the last time it was running.
 It'd be very nice if tangogps also
 remembered the status of the center on gps position setting, 
 instead of always defaulting to not follow the gps around.

I have another wish-list item for the 'auto-centre' setting.
It would be great if the button was a toggle that was visually down when
the setting was active, and up when it was inactive.  A small thing, but it
seems to bother me.

Also I noticed a peculiarity which I haven't tried to reproduce yet, but:

I went for a 1 hour bicycle ride with tangogps recording my path.  It was set
on zoom 13.
When I zoomed in (to 14) to have a closer look at the path, it only showed
the last half hour or so.  When I zoomed it again (to 15) it was the last 15
or 20 minutes. (these are fairly rough figures).
I zoom back out to 13 and I see the whole path.
I this expected.

An hour later (stationary the whole time, but on) the results were the same.
I didn't lose any more of the path as time progressed, but I didn't get it
back either.

NeilBrown

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