Re: Android status as a daily phone
The volume is fine. Although I usually don't get much calls, I think the voice it's quite clear too. About the battery, well I have the impression that mine doesn't last for a long time, maybe due to my behaviour, cause when at home I often stop the suspend and keep the phone under charge. It has happened that the phone got frozen after suspending a couple of times, but recently I didn't experiment it again. urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:10:38 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
By using Android as my daily phone on my FreeRunner I have noticed that there are just three problems that still need to be fixed: 1. Microphone volume: sometimes it is too low and people can't listen my voice. 2. Speakers: when I activate the speakers during a call the other person listen his voice back. 3. Sometimes it get frozen, especially when a lot of applications are running (not enought resources?) Emanuele On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:21 AM, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: The volume is fine. Although I usually don't get much calls, I think the voice it's quite clear too. About the battery, well I have the impression that mine doesn't last for a long time, maybe due to my behaviour, cause when at home I often stop the suspend and keep the phone under charge. It has happened that the phone got frozen after suspending a couple of times, but recently I didn't experiment it again. urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:10:38 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
1 doesn't happen to me (yet) 2 didn't try 3 i agree. the problem there is that you can't kill the app when you finish using it, therefore when many programs are running, there's not enough memory. I've red that ES File Explorer is able to kill the applications, but i didn't try yet. You can find it here: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/Applications urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:29:23 +0200, Emanuele Leomanni emanuele...@gmail.com wrote: By using Android as my daily phone on my FreeRunner I have noticed that there are just three problems that still need to be fixed: 1. Microphone volume: sometimes it is too low and people can't listen my voice. 2. Speakers: when I activate the speakers during a call the other person listen his voice back. 3. Sometimes it get frozen, especially when a lot of applications are running (not enought resources?) Emanuele On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:21 AM, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: The volume is fine. Although I usually don't get much calls, I think the voice it's quite clear too. About the battery, well I have the impression that mine doesn't last for a long time, maybe due to my behaviour, cause when at home I often stop the suspend and keep the phone under charge. It has happened that the phone got frozen after suspending a couple of times, but recently I didn't experiment it again. urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:10:38 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
Another issues related to the battery is that, as far as I remember, for #1024 fixed phones deep sleep does not work since the option is disabled and can not be enabled through config files or others. That might be another reason for shorter battery time compared to SHR or qtmoko. But correct me if I am wrong. On 4/25/10, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
Is it possible at all to run Android from SD card? I want to have SHR in NAND and Android in SD just for testing my programs. Thanks! Leonti On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:59 PM, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm interested in taking a look at Android... 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot other distributions, in particular Debian? It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Jim Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. Thanks for any answers and advice! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working
I have the same problem, but upgrading didn't solve it. I tried everything I could think of, but no wifi so far. Any ideas? -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/SHR-U-Wifi-stopped-working-tp4562468p4959480.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Yes thanks, it does. It tells me that I can't switch between Debian and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by swapping SD cards. Which is probably OK for now. FWIW, my reason for asking is that I'm now hoping to find something a bit more swishy and impressive than just basic phone function. Debian has been fine for me for basic phone function for some time now, and I expect to keep that as my mainstay. But I'd love to be able to demonstrate how cool the FR is by saying but look, it can also run Android, here Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
Neil Jerram wrote: On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Yes thanks, it does. It tells me that I can't switch between Debian and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by swapping SD cards. Which is probably OK for now. FWIW, my reason for asking is that I'm now hoping to find something a bit more swishy and impressive than just basic phone function. Debian has been fine for me for basic phone function for some time now, and I expect to keep that as my mainstay. But I'd love to be able to demonstrate how cool the FR is by saying but look, it can also run Android, here Regards, Neil I had similar reasons to try Android - another being is the browser ;-) You can use an SD only version, which is documented in this thread [1] and mirrored here [2]. I have _normal_ Qi as bootloader and Android + SHR on my SD which looks like this: p[FAT, for Android data] p[ext3, Androit rootfs] p[ext3, SHR rootfs] e[ext3 data] e[swap] NAND holds an SHR-U of known state that is functional for basic calling - just in case... What I really miss though are easy updates for Android on SD. Cheers, Christian [1] http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=7 [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/android/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
Hey, does this flashing work without SD? http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions See #1. Greetings, Kai Christian Rüb schrieb: Neil Jerram wrote: On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Yes thanks, it does. It tells me that I can't switch between Debian and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by swapping SD cards. Which is probably OK for now. FWIW, my reason for asking is that I'm now hoping to find something a bit more swishy and impressive than just basic phone function. Debian has been fine for me for basic phone function for some time now, and I expect to keep that as my mainstay. But I'd love to be able to demonstrate how cool the FR is by saying but look, it can also run Android, here Regards, Neil I had similar reasons to try Android - another being is the browser ;-) You can use an SD only version, which is documented in this thread [1] and mirrored here [2]. I have _normal_ Qi as bootloader and Android + SHR on my SD which looks like this: p[FAT, for Android data] p[ext3, Androit rootfs] p[ext3, SHR rootfs] e[ext3 data] e[swap] NAND holds an SHR-U of known state that is functional for basic calling - just in case... What I really miss though are easy updates for Android on SD. Cheers, Christian [1] http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=7 [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/android/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working
I have had experience with a lot of WiFi chips that is that they stop working after a couple of years. Check that the device is found on your machine. I use lsusb HansV wrote: I have the same problem, but upgrading didn't solve it. I tried everything I could think of, but no wifi so far. Any ideas? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
Yeah, it works with 0.2.0 RC1: Download the zip-file unzip the contents. Run the following dfu-util commands: dfu-util -a kernel -R -D kernel.img dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D system.img dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi.img I have no inserted SD. The first boot does not work, so restart. Great thanks! Kai Kai Lüke schrieb: Hey, does this flashing work without SD? http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions See #1. Greetings, Kai Christian Rüb schrieb: Neil Jerram wrote: On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Yes thanks, it does. It tells me that I can't switch between Debian and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by swapping SD cards. Which is probably OK for now. FWIW, my reason for asking is that I'm now hoping to find something a bit more swishy and impressive than just basic phone function. Debian has been fine for me for basic phone function for some time now, and I expect to keep that as my mainstay. But I'd love to be able to demonstrate how cool the FR is by saying but look, it can also run Android, here Regards, Neil I had similar reasons to try Android - another being is the browser ;-) You can use an SD only version, which is documented in this thread [1] and mirrored here [2]. I have _normal_ Qi as bootloader and Android + SHR on my SD which looks like this: p[FAT, for Android data] p[ext3, Androit rootfs] p[ext3, SHR rootfs] e[ext3 data] e[swap] NAND holds an SHR-U of known state that is functional for basic calling - just in case... What I really miss though are easy updates for Android on SD. Cheers, Christian [1] http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=7 [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/android/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko - Difficulty trying to mount SD as USB
swoody wrote: Well, I've been trying my darnedest to get the sd card in my phone to mount as a USB drive. [...] I'm nearly at my wits end here. I don't have access to a card reader, and I tried setting up 3 different phones (non-FR's) as USB drives, but each one has it's own unique issue. You can buy SD/MMC USB card readers on eBay for 5 USD with free shipping. You may need a microSD→full-size SD adapter too. I have 2 spare SD/XD/MS/M2/TF(AKA microSD) USB card readers. You can have 1 of them, but it would probably cost more for me to mail them to you than for you to buy an SD/MMC reader with free shipping on eBay. I have the 2 spare readers because the product description on DealExtreme claimed they support CF, which my camera uses, but after I received them I discovered they do not support CF. (fail) My 2 spare readers have separate slots for TF (AKA microSD) and full-size SD, though, so you could use both sizes of SD cards without needing an adapter. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
