Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch

2010-05-04 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Back in 1975 one of the watch companies made a computer watch that you
could play a weak form of asteroids on it, and program the watch in
BASIC.  It had a stand that contained a keyboard and printer, and the
watch communicated with the stand through inductance (you had to put the
watch on the stand to program it, input data or print).


 I don't know if someone is producing such a wristwatch, but there
 was  
 a research project by IBM:
 
 http://www.research.ibm.com/WearableComputing/linuxwatch/linuxwatch.html
 
 showing that it is (was) possible and how it could look like.
 
 BR,
 Nikolaus
 
Yes.  I have seen the prototype several times, the last time at IBM's
research labs in Austin, Texas (sitting in a display case) and it even
made it to the point where Citizen was a potential manufacturer
(mentioned on the web page)

BUT

the battery life was pathetic, and it was rather clunky looking, and it
still could not make a telephone call, so it was never produced.

BUT

technology moves forward, and someday.

md



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Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch

2010-05-04 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hewlett Packard also made a wristwatch calculator 1977-1980, the HP-01:

http://www.hpmuseum.org/hp01.htm

Nikolaus

Am 04.05.2010 um 11:33 schrieb Jon 'maddog' Hall:

 Back in 1975 one of the watch companies made a computer watch that  
 you
 could play a weak form of asteroids on it, and program the watch in
 BASIC.  It had a stand that contained a keyboard and printer, and the
 watch communicated with the stand through inductance (you had to put  
 the
 watch on the stand to program it, input data or print).


 I don't know if someone is producing such a wristwatch, but there
 was
 a research project by IBM:

 http://www.research.ibm.com/WearableComputing/linuxwatch/linuxwatch.html

 showing that it is (was) possible and how it could look like.

 BR,
 Nikolaus

 Yes.  I have seen the prototype several times, the last time at IBM's
 research labs in Austin, Texas (sitting in a display case) and it even
 made it to the point where Citizen was a potential manufacturer
 (mentioned on the web page)

 BUT

 the battery life was pathetic, and it was rather clunky looking, and  
 it
 still could not make a telephone call, so it was never produced.

 BUT

 technology moves forward, and someday.


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Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch

2010-05-04 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Here another link:


http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/abouthp/histnfacts/museum/personalsystems/0022/index.html

Am 04.05.2010 um 11:56 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:

 Hewlett Packard also made a wristwatch calculator 1977-1980, the  
 HP-01:

   http://www.hpmuseum.org/hp01.htm

 Nikolaus

 Am 04.05.2010 um 11:33 schrieb Jon 'maddog' Hall:

 Back in 1975 one of the watch companies made a computer watch that
 you
 could play a weak form of asteroids on it, and program the watch in
 BASIC.  It had a stand that contained a keyboard and printer, and the
 watch communicated with the stand through inductance (you had to put
 the
 watch on the stand to program it, input data or print).


 I don't know if someone is producing such a wristwatch, but there
 was
 a research project by IBM:

 http://www.research.ibm.com/WearableComputing/linuxwatch/linuxwatch.html

 showing that it is (was) possible and how it could look like.

 BR,
 Nikolaus

 Yes.  I have seen the prototype several times, the last time at IBM's
 research labs in Austin, Texas (sitting in a display case) and it  
 even
 made it to the point where Citizen was a potential manufacturer
 (mentioned on the web page)

 BUT

 the battery life was pathetic, and it was rather clunky looking, and
 it
 still could not make a telephone call, so it was never produced.

 BUT

 technology moves forward, and someday.


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Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch

2010-05-04 Thread Joseph Reeves
TI's Chronos would be able to display the things you're after:

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/ez430-chronos.html

You just need to install the wireless module for it in / near your FreeRunner.

Cheers, Joseph



On 4 May 2010 02:24, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote:
 Does something like this exist?. If not, please, someone start making
 it.

 I really want a thick wrist watch with a big display that follows the
 curvature of my arm.

 It can provide several status indicators, like new mail, new jabber
 messages, time, location, etc and notify you of whatever. There's
 millions of awesome stuff you could do with something like this.

 It can have a simple interaction interface and you can pull out your
 freerunner when you need to do the other more advanced stuff.

 Please, someone start making it;).

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Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch

2010-05-04 Thread Tilman Baumann

Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:

 BUT

 the battery life was pathetic, and it was rather clunky looking, and it
 still could not make a telephone call, so it was never produced.

 BUT

 technology moves forward, and someday.

Indeed. Some month ago a bought a wrist watch phone for 199 USD just for
the fun of it. It is not terribly clunky, has bluetooth and even a
(video)camera and stereo mp3 player via bluetooth.

But no Linux or any smart Operating system for that matter. :(
But it shows, technology is there. I'm just not the right person for a non
smart phone with limited user interfaces.

Regards
 Tilman Baumann

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Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch

2010-05-04 Thread Raphael Wimmer
On Tue, 04 May 2010 12:00:28 +0200, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com  
wrote:

 TI's Chronos would be able to display the things you're after:

 http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/ez430-chronos.html

 You just need to install the wireless module for it in / near your  
 FreeRunner.


Actually, you first need to be able to get one. I ordered one in February  
and am still waiting for it. Allegedly, shipping of the 433 MHz version  
will only happen in July due to large demand. Others are waiting since  
last year. Some suspect manufacturing problems with the 433 MHz hardware.  
to be the real cause.

Obviously a perfect match for the FreeRunner. :)

More info: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/EZ430-Chronos

Raphael

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SHR phoneui-contacts buddy icons

2010-05-04 Thread ø
Hi.

Excuse my stupid questions, but I have looked for it on google, list, 
SHR manual and Openmoko wiki, and I can't find it. Maybe I'm not using 
the right words.

I was wondering what are the green one eyed alien that appear next to 
the contact name in Contacts list. I thought that it was an icon to 
replace with your friends photos, but I don't find where to change it.

Sorry again for the silly question.

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Re: SHR phoneui-contacts buddy icons

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Prünster
ø wrote:
 Hi.

 Excuse my stupid questions, but I have looked for it on google, list, 
 SHR manual and Openmoko wiki, and I can't find it. Maybe I'm not using 
 the right words.

 I was wondering what are the green one eyed alien that appear next to 
 the contact name in Contacts list. I thought that it was an icon to 
 replace with your friends photos, but I don't find where to change it.

 Sorry again for the silly question.
   
Add a Photo field in the contact view. upon editing that field a file 
browser will appear to choose the picture

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Re: SHR phoneui-contacts buddy icons

2010-05-04 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Dienstag, 4. Mai 2010 14:30:00 schrieb Bernd Prünster:
 ø wrote:
  Hi.
  
  Excuse my stupid questions, but I have looked for it on google, list,
  SHR manual and Openmoko wiki, and I can't find it. Maybe I'm not using
  the right words.
  
  I was wondering what are the green one eyed alien that appear next to
  the contact name in Contacts list. I thought that it was an icon to
  replace with your friends photos, but I don't find where to change it.
  
  Sorry again for the silly question.
 
 Add a Photo field in the contact view. upon editing that field a file
 browser will appear to choose the picture
 
Unfortunatelly I think I broke the filebrowser :/ Will have to check later. If 
the filebrowser does not pop up you can just enter the path to the photo and 
that should work.

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Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch

2010-05-04 Thread Martix
Look, what could be created with nanotechnology in near future.

Nokia Morph concept:
http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/research/demos/the-morph-concept
video: http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/research/demos/the-morph-concept/video

2010/5/4 Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name:
 Does something like this exist?. If not, please, someone start making
 it.

 I really want a thick wrist watch with a big display that follows the
 curvature of my arm.

 It can provide several status indicators, like new mail, new jabber
 messages, time, location, etc and notify you of whatever. There's
 millions of awesome stuff you could do with something like this.

 It can have a simple interaction interface and you can pull out your
 freerunner when you need to do the other more advanced stuff.

 Please, someone start making it;).

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little python script to clean up double entries in /usr/lib/opkg/status

2010-05-04 Thread Jan Girlich
Hi folks,

for some reason I often suffer from double (or triple or...) entries in
my /usr/lib/opkg/status and decided to write a little script that
removes double entries. To be safe I opted to remove the newer entries
and keep only the oldest.

Sorry for little comments in the code.

HTH someone
Jan
#!/usr/bin/python
#
# opkgrepair.py - removes double pkg entries in an opkg status file
#
# usage: opkgrepair.py input-file output-file
#
# Jan Girlich vollk...@cryptobitch.de

import sys

inputdata = open(sys.argv[1], 'r').readlines()

outputfile = open(sys.argv[2], 'w')

state = lookForPackage
lastpackage = []
currentpackage = []

def doComparison(last, cur):
	if ((len(last)  0) and (len(cur)  0)):
		if not (last[0] == cur[0]):
			for line in last:
outputfile.write(line)
		else:
			print(Removing  + last[0])
	return

for line in inputdata:
	if (state == lookForPackage):
		if line.startswith(Package: ):
			state = saveLines
			currentpackage = [line]
	elif (state == saveLines):
		currentpackage.append(line)
		if (line == '\n'):
			doComparison(lastpackage, currentpackage)
			state = lookForPackage
			lastpackage = currentpackage

for line in lastpackage:
	outputfile.write(line)



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Re: little python script to clean up double entries in /usr/lib/opkg/status

2010-05-04 Thread neo

 for some reason I often suffer from double (or triple or...) entries in
 my /usr/lib/opkg/status and decided to write a little script that
 removes double entries. To be safe I opted to remove the newer entries
 and keep only the oldest.

This is a good idea! 

However, the script does to take the version into account. That led to the 
deletion of the newer version in my case. No big deal as I checked the results 
before putting the chnaged file into place, but still you might want to change 
this.

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Re: SHR phoneui-contacts buddy icons

2010-05-04 Thread ø
 Add a Photo field in the contact view. upon editing that field a file
 browser will appear to choose the picture

Thanks, I didn't find Photo field.

It works as you said, except that file browser didn't appear, and I had 
to write the file path instead. I'm using shr testing, by the way.


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Re: Introducing the Freerunner Navigation Board

2010-05-04 Thread Christoph Mair
On Monday 03 May 2010 11:10:40 Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
 On 3 May 2010 11:04, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
  Having navigation work inside tunnels
  would allow mapping them accurately for openstreetmap. And also have
  underground navigation - some tunnels have got
  intersections/roundabouts inside, with several possible exits.
 
 Would navit, tangogps, etc. need a new interface to access the
 sensors, or could the existing libraries be adapted to correct the
 GPS data with additional information from the extra sensors before
 handing it on to the GUI?
I don't know exactly how all these programms get their gps data so the 
following is just a wild guess, but I think it should be rather easy to 
integrate them into (fso-)gpsd if a inertial navigation system has been 
developed.

Cheers,
  Christoph

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Re: SHR phoneui-contacts buddy icons

2010-05-04 Thread ø
El 04/05/10 15:26, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann escribió:
 Am Dienstag, 4. Mai 2010 14:30:00 schrieb Bernd Prünster:
 ø wrote:
 Hi.

 Excuse my stupid questions, but I have looked for it on google, list,
 SHR manual and Openmoko wiki, and I can't find it. Maybe I'm not using
 the right words.

 I was wondering what are the green one eyed alien that appear next to
 the contact name in Contacts list. I thought that it was an icon to
 replace with your friends photos, but I don't find where to change it.

 Sorry again for the silly question.

 Add a Photo field in the contact view. upon editing that field a file
 browser will appear to choose the picture

 Unfortunatelly I think I broke the filebrowser :/ Will have to check later. If
 the filebrowser does not pop up you can just enter the path to the photo and
 that should work.


Ok, entering the path is good enough for me right now.

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[QtMoko] Debian package for v22

2010-05-04 Thread Vincent Meurisse
Hi,

Debian package for QtMoko v22 are ready. As usual, instruction for update are 
located at http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Update.

Their should be no particular issue with this update.

Regards

-- 
Vincent Meurisse

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Community Updates 2010-05-01 released

2010-05-04 Thread Tomas Nackaerts
Hello,

I've just released the Community Updates 2010-05-01.
This release was put together by:


* Kukide
* Martix
* Multi
* Valos
* Faltantornillos
* Booxter
* Toams

You can find it at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-05-01

Everybody is invited to work at the new community Updates draft at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-06-01



Greetings,

Toams

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Re: SHR phoneui-contacts buddy icons

2010-05-04 Thread Robin Paulson
On 5 May 2010 00:30, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was wondering what are the green one eyed alien that appear next to
 the contact name in Contacts list. I thought that it was an icon to
 replace with your friends photos, but I don't find where to change it.

 Sorry again for the silly question.

 Add a Photo field in the contact view. upon editing that field a file
 browser will appear to choose the picture

the following would be potentially useful:
add a user to contacts, let's call him 'John Smith'
take a photo of John
place the photo in /home/$user/.contact_photos/John Smith.jpg
then, on using contacts/dialler/messages/etc., john's photo
automatically appears

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latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-04 Thread Jan Girlich
Wooha,

after playing around too much with my installation today I broke it and
reflashed my Freerunner with the lastest SHR unstable. And am stuck!
Where do you guys keep up to date regarding the changes in the SHR apps?

I installed shr-theme-neo again and noticed that the background and
symbol font on the starter are black and thus the app names are
unreadable. Changing the wallpaper does not change anything, the
background stays plain black.

The newly designed top bar does and power button-screen do not allow
to close an application as they did before. So now when I open an app
which has no quit button like tnagogps and then open another one, I'm
stuck. I can't go back to the already opened instance because the left
and right arrows to switch between apps are missing, and even if I
could, I didn't know how to close it again. Tapping the tangopgs symbol
again doesn't do anything: neither changing to the already opened
instance out of sight nor opening a new one. How can I close apps? How
can I switch between them?

I really like the qwo keyboard, when I change the keyboard setting to
qwo it permanently is overlayed on the screen, about middle of the
screen, left side, and all app starter symbols are blanking out so I
can't see any app anymore. qwo stays like this no matter what the
topbars keyboard indicator status is and I have no clue how to make qwo
go away and only appear when I tap the keyboard indicator icon like the
default keyboard does.

Any help appreciated
Jan


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Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-04 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jan Girlich vollk...@cryptobitch.de wrote:
 The newly designed top bar does and power button-screen do not allow
 to close an application as they did before. So now when I open an app
 which has no quit button like tnagogps and then open another one, I'm
 stuck.

a few versions back there were back and close buttons on the
bottom of the screen to handle switching and closing applications.
in the latest versions those buttons were absent. so i have not opkg
upgraded in some time because of it.

something went down the tubes...

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Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Prünster
Jan Girlich wrote:
 Wooha,

 after playing around too much with my installation today I broke it and
 reflashed my Freerunner with the lastest SHR unstable. And am stuck!
 Where do you guys keep up to date regarding the changes in the SHR apps?

   
i don't... since the switch to fsogsmd+fsotld+etc... my neo is in a 
vegetative state
 I installed shr-theme-neo again and noticed that the background and
 symbol font on the starter are black and thus the app names are
 unreadable.
(i'm the author of the neo theme ...at least illume and elm) i dont 
bother with illume2 for now
 ...
i'm waiting till these issues are ironed out then i'll adapt the 
theme... what good does eye candy do when underlaying stuff is broken? :-P

because of the current situation dont expect any theme updates until the 
current regressions are ironed out.
you might want to try to switch to illume1 - window management and neo 
theme works there (go to illume settings - [i forgot the category] - 
profile and select illume-shr)

br

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Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-04 Thread Lars Hennig
Am Mittwoch 05 Mai 2010 schrieb Bernd Prünster:
 because of the current situation dont expect any theme updates until the
 current regressions are ironed out.
 you might want to try to switch to illume1 - window management and neo
 theme works there (go to illume settings - [i forgot the category] -
 profile and select illume-shr)

Once you tried illume2, you probably won't want to go back. At least in my 
case this was true.

I am really looking forward to the upgrade of neo theme to illume2 ;-)

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