Re: power drain after wifi connection

2011-05-25 Thread Paul Fertser
Alfa21  writes:
> 2011-05-25@23:31 Paul Fertser
>> Hm, you do not spare too many details, do you :) Are you really sure
>> the ar6000 module is unbinded when you disable wifi?
>
> sorry, I didn't know which kind of details you meant...

Basically, ``ls /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi'', it should let
you know if the module (even when built-in) is binded or not. It
shouldn't be if you want the card to not drain the battery.

``echo s3c2440-sdi > .../unbind'' (or bind) is how to handle this
manually.

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Re: [qtmoko] power drain after wifi connection

2011-05-25 Thread Alfa21
2011-05-26@01:01 Timo Juhani Lindfors
> Alfa21  writes:
> > btw, in neocontrol I see around 225000 discharging current
> 
> Sounds wrong, are you using the backlight? If yes, turn it off :-)
> 
>  You might want to steal some ideas from my comment in
> 
> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2277#comment:23
> 
> on how to measure wifi power consumption in a bit more reliable way.


yes, the backlight is full on... but the interesting thing is the value does 
not change before/after the wifi connection.

afaik the difference is in the std-by power consumption and I think any script 
does not run during the std-by power state.

mmh.. a question: I do not remember how to verify if it goes in sleep or in 
deep-sleep

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Re: power drain after wifi connection

2011-05-25 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Alfa21  writes:
> btw, in neocontrol I see around 225000 discharging current

Sounds wrong, are you using the backlight? If yes, turn it off :-)

 You might want to steal some ideas from my comment in

http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2277#comment:23

on how to measure wifi power consumption in a bit more reliable way.

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power drain after wifi connection (was: [QtMoko] USB charging (and network) from Windows 7)

2011-05-25 Thread Alfa21
2011-05-25@23:31 Paul Fertser
> Hm, you do not spare too many details, do you :) Are you really sure
> the ar6000 module is unbinded when you disable wifi?

sorry, I didn't know which kind of details you meant...

root@neo:~# lsmod 
Module  Size  Used by
sco 6501  4 
bnep8748  2 
rfcomm 30320  20 
l2cap  28055  16 bnep,rfcomm
ipv6  214344  16 
ppp_generic18572  0 
slhc4659  1 ppp_generic
g_ether21328  0 
s3c2410_udc11483  1 g_ether

the same list before, during, after a successful wifi connection.
I do not find any "ar6000" in /lib/modules.

root@neo:~# uname -a
Linux neo 2.6.34.8-v33 #1 Thu Mar 3 21:19:00 CET 2011 armv4tl GNU/Linux

btw, in neocontrol I see around 225000 discharging current both before and 
after wifi, during the connection I see 35.

now I've half battery, tomorrow morning I'll tell you if it's empty... I do not 
know if it something like my phone does not go in deep sleep anymore after a 
wifi connection because I do not know how to check the power consumption during 
std-by state.

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Re: [QtMoko] USB charging (and network) from Windows 7

2011-05-25 Thread Paul Fertser
Alfa21  writes:
> 2011-05-25@00:05 Paul Fertser
>> Alfa21  writes:
>> > ah! keep in mind: if you enable wifi at least once in any boot
>> > cycle, your moko will drain more current than usual, also if you
>> > disconnect wifi and put the phone to sleep.
>> 
>> Are you really sure? Because i'm not aware of any bugs in this
>> area. Please clarify.
>> 
>
> here on my v34 the issue is 100% repeatable... I thought it was a
> known one, isn't it?

Hm, you do not spare too many details, do you :) Are you really sure
the ar6000 module is unbinded when you disable wifi?

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Re: free freerunner

2011-05-25 Thread Esteban Monge
Hello my Openmoko was broken, zero fun =$. I will appreciate obtain again
the freedom of my phone

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Re: [QtMoko] USB charging (and network) from Windows 7

2011-05-25 Thread Alfa21
2011-05-25@00:05 Paul Fertser
> Alfa21  writes:
> > 2011-05-24@14:15 Xavier Cremaschi
> >> > If you try om utility (from omhacks package) it could have parameter for 
> >> > enabling fast charge. Then you can edit the "Fast charge mode" script so 
> >> > that 
> >> > it uses "om" command (and send the result to me so that i can commit it 
> >> > as 
> >> > patch ;-).  
> >> Thanks for the hint. As soon as I will be able to log through ssh I will
> >> try to find a way to make it work (86ma is probably not enough to start
> >> WiFi)
> >
> > ah! keep in mind: if you enable wifi at least once in any boot
> > cycle, your moko will drain more current than usual, also if you
> > disconnect wifi and put the phone to sleep.
> 
> Are you really sure? Because i'm not aware of any bugs in this
> area. Please clarify.
> 

here on my v34 the issue is 100% repeatable... I thought it was a known one, 
isn't it?
sometimes I use wifi to check emails before going to sleep and can happens I 
forget to reboot my gta02, so the following morning I find my battery almost 
empty or phone in power-off state (it shuts down itself when the charge is 
under certain level)

(IIRC there is nothing in the v35 changelog about this topic)

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Re: [QtMoko] Accelerometers

2011-05-25 Thread Radek Polak
giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>   I'm developing my first QtMoko application in which I'd like to
> use accelerometers.
> Is there any QtClass which is suitable for that goal? Have you got any
> hints?

There is no QT API right now, you have to read straight from the input device:

https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/tree/master/src/3rdparty/games/qtmaze

or

https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/src/3rdparty/applications/qx/rotate.h
https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/src/3rdparty/applications/qx/rotate.cpp

Regards

Radek

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Re: Neo FreeRunner rework party and Openmobility conference 2011 (Czech Republic)

2011-05-25 Thread Radek Polak
Martix wrote:

> > I hope that we have the first GTA04-EA units shipped by that time and I
> > know that two early adopters come from Czech republic.
> 
> Nice to hear that! But, I don't know who had ordered these GTA04 and
> I'm not sure whether they heard about our conference. Please, could
> you forward them an invitation for Openmobility conference? We really
> like to see these GTA04 units.

I have one ordered and i will bring it to the conference if it will be 
possible.

Regards

Radek

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Re: free freerunner

2011-05-25 Thread shamsul hassan
Hi Sengechungchung

I would definitely be glad to have another Neo with me.I already have one
and using it as my Daily Phone with QTMoko on it.If I get this one then I am
planning to do some more rigorous testing and hacking of hardware mostly
related to GPS and Wifi.
Please let me know if you will be able to send it to Cork ( Ireland ) as I
am located in Ireland.I will pay the Shipping cost.

May be Neo will get a new daddy in Ireland ;)

Thanks
Shamsul

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:41 PM, f f wrote:

> hi all,
>
> I have a spare openmoko neo freerunner (gta02) that's just sitting in it's
> box. I'd be glad to give it to somebody who would actually do something with
> it. So if you need/ want a freerunner, drop me a line.
> (Contact me for details. Also, I'm based in Germany)
>
> cheerio
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Re: free freerunner

2011-05-25 Thread Angel M Alganza
Hello f f,

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 01:41:28PM +0200, f f wrote:
 
> it. So if you need/ want a freerunner, drop me a line.
> (Contact me for details. Also, I'm based in Germany)

I'd like to have it to use it as a monitor device for my
servers, apart than as my mobile phone (mine, an old Sony
Ericsson, needs a replacement, I'm afraid).

How much are you asking for it?

Thank you and regards.
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free freerunner

2011-05-25 Thread f f
hi all,

I have a spare openmoko neo freerunner (gta02) that's just sitting in it's
box. I'd be glad to give it to somebody who would actually do something with
it. So if you need/ want a freerunner, drop me a line.
(Contact me for details. Also, I'm based in Germany)

cheerio
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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-05-25 Thread giacomo 'giotti' mariani

On 05/04/2011 08:45 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

giacomo,


On 2011-05-03 01:03, giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote:



Not sure what you mean about QX

I thought that x11vnc could stay for: vnc for x11, i.e. vnc for qx".
But it does not work in qx even, at least for me.


- what I do is:

- from my desktop ssh to neo:

ssh 192.168.0.202

- and then start my script:

./px11vnc.sh

- from another window on my desktop run:

vncviewer 192.168.0.202

my Neo display then shows up on my desktop and as long as I keep the
mouse pointer in the Neo window I can type into text messages etc from
the desktop machine.

I do exactly the same, but I can't input...


Does that help?

No, but thanks alike.



Hmmm . . not sure what else I can suggest . . and clicking with the 
mouse on Neo icons definitely doesn't work either?


Phil.

Hi Phil,
I installed a new OS (kubuntu 11.04) and a new vnc client (krdc) 
and I tried x11vnc again.


I obtained similar results, with the same problem, but I noticed an 
error (new?):


 25/05/2011 12:05:02 pipeinput: starting: "./qt_tslib_inject_kbdhack.pl"...
Can't locate ./kbdhack.pl in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl 
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./qt_tslib_inject_kbdhack.pl line 36.


Have you got any idea on when I can find that file?

Thanks
   Giacomo

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[QtMoko] Accelerometers

2011-05-25 Thread giacomo 'giotti' mariani

Hello everyone,
 I'm developing my first QtMoko application in which I'd like to 
use accelerometers.
Is there any QtClass which is suitable for that goal? Have you got any 
hints?


Thanks
Giacomo

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