Re: ATT and my beloved Freerunner
ATT has been calling and text'ing for the last 2 months. They have informed me that my phone will no longer be compatible with their network on Monday Aug 29-30, 2011. Has anyone else running into this issue? Yes. They eventually started *intercepting my calls* and redirecting them to a call-centre where someone would insist that they had to give me a new phone. This happened several times That is so very interesting. Means we have to speed up building our own networks :-) Cheers, Wolfgang ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ATT and my beloved Freerunner
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:31:44 -0700 (PDT) error l...@cmccreery.com wrote: ATT has been calling and text'ing for the last 2 months. They have informed me that my phone will no longer be compatible with their network on Monday Aug 29-30, 2011. Has anyone else running into this issue? Sitting in another part of the world, this sounds like complete rubbish to me. Massive network upgrades put phones out of use - here changes from one frequency to another, or from analog to digital. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ATT and my beloved Freerunner
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:31:44 -0700 (PDT) error l...@cmccreery.com wrote: ATT has been calling and text'ing for the last 2 months. They have informed me that my phone will no longer be compatible with their network on Monday Aug 29-30, 2011. Has anyone else running into this issue? This looks a lot like IMEI blacklisting to me, I can't imagine any other reason. In the states, I assume the FCC is the authority to contact with such problems, and that's what I would do in this case, because the Neo is FCC approved. Sitting in another part of the world, this sounds like complete rubbish to me. Massive network upgrades put phones out of use - here changes from one frequency to another, or from analog to digital. Upgrades never put phones out of use as upgrades always keep backwards compatibility. There have been several upgrades on GSM networks all over the world, yet every GSM phone that's compliant should still work, because the standard is still valid (even though old devices might not be able to use new features). So there is no reason why the Neo wouldn't be supported anymore. Of course networks get replaced by newer standards which are non-compliant, but that can hardly be called an upgrade of an existing network, because it always will be a completely new network. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ATT and my beloved Freerunner
I switched from ATT to tmobile a couple years ago to get on tmobile's 200 minute plan. I found this which mentions some ATT network changes that result in them trying to replace old phones: http://www.phonecan.com/index.php/customer-qustions-at-t-sent-me-a-letter-for-a-free-upgrade-with-no-contract *Shutdown of the Cellular One Network - *ATT purchased Cellular One and began migrating customers late in 2007. Customers had the option of keeping the same phone and were sent a special SIM card to make it compatible with the ATT network. In order to make the Cell One phones compatible certain parts of the legacy Cell One network had to be maintained even after the migration process was complete. In late 2010 the campaign for the network shutdown began and the customers still using their Cell One phones were given the option of a free upgrade with no contract or yet another SIM card that would make their phones compatible with the ATT network. *Shutdown of the (Original) ATT Wireless Network* -- Cingular purchased ATT /Wireless/ in 2004. Cingular changed its name to ATT /Mobility/ in 2007 after one of its parent companies purchased ATT /Incorporated/, provider of landline services. Years later there are still a few customers on the network using their same handsets from ATT wireless that are at least 6 years old. The free no-contract upgrade letters began going out in early 2011. The actual shutdown happens in May. As of yet I have not heard of the option to just get a new SIM. *Single-Band GSM (2G) 1900mhz Handset Users -- *After the merger of ATT Wireless and Cingular in 2004, Cingular owned licenses in the 850 and 1900 band throughout most of the country. Cingular dual cast its GSM signal in both bands until it began deployment of its 3G network in 2005. The 3G technology then took over the 1900 band. If you're in one of the 2G areas that are scheduled to be upgraded to 3G in the soon future and you have one of these phones, you would have received one of these mailers offering a free upgrade with no contract. *Users of 2G Phones with High Voice Usage* -- I don't fully understand the technological aspects of this one. All I know it the users who currently using 2G phones in certain states (California is one of them) are being sent free-upgrade-with-no-contract mailers. I could speculate that the 3G handles voice calls more efficiently and they want to keep both 2G and 3G networks running smoothly, but that's purely speculation. On 08/25/2011 09:31 PM, error wrote: ATT has been calling and text'ing for the last 2 months. They have informed me that my phone will no longer be compatible with their network on Monday Aug 29-30, 2011. Has anyone else running into this issue? -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/AT-T-and-my-beloved-Freerunner-tp6727047p6727047.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
osmocombb?
Has anyone tried this open source calypso firmware on their freerunner yet? http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ It sounds like they have made a lot of progress since I last looked at their site. It sounds like they can make and receive calls using open source modem firmware. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: osmocombb?
Benjamin Deering ben_deer...@swissmail.org writes: Has anyone tried this open source calypso firmware on their freerunner yet? http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ Not many of us have our own base station yet and afaik it is not legal to use osmocombb in a public network. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: osmocombb?
On Friday, August 26, 2011 02:42:33 pm Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Benjamin Deering ben_deer...@swissmail.org writes: Has anyone tried this open source calypso firmware on their freerunner yet? http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ Not many of us have our own base station yet and afaik it is not legal to use osmocombb in a public network. Also, it's not a drop-in replacement currently. layer23 runs on a computer(be it your laptop or the samsung SOC of the freerunner...) and it doesn't have an AT interpreter(instead it's an interactive command line interface). altough they have a port of an RTOS named nuttx for the calypso, however no one are working on it anymore...so maybe someone should continue that work... Note that I didn't try it yet(I'm will work to get the money to buy an USRP + A test license to try it ) Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: osmocombb?
I hadn't thought about legal issues. I'd be surprised if an open source radio stack was ever legal since it wouldn't implement some of the anti-features required (hard to change IMEI, silently drop encryption, etc). On 08/26/2011 08:42 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Benjamin Deeringben_deer...@swissmail.org writes: Has anyone tried this open source calypso firmware on their freerunner yet? http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ Not many of us have our own base station yet and afaik it is not legal to use osmocombb in a public network. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
