Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread jcommeli
> The video doesn't work in IceCat using HTML5 (WebM). A free phone > should deliver its videos in a patent unencumbered format whenever > possible. I second thatÂ… Anyhow, it makes me even more curious (-; Johan Commelin ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Alon Ivtsan
Theora is fine as well but Youtube doesn't support it as far as I know. The only unencumbered format supported by Youtube is VP8 and Vorbis in a WebM container. The GTA04 boot video can be downloaded in WebM format using UnPlug for example but it cannot be viewed online without downloading when usi

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.09.2011 um 20:03 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > > Am 21.09.2011 um 19:29 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: > >> "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" writes: >>> per second). Finally, the rootfs is a plain standard Debian Squeeze without >>> any optimization >>> for boot speed. >> >> This probab

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" writes: > BTW: what is armhf? Never heard that... "A lot of modern ARM boards and devices ship with a floating-point unit (FPU) but the current Debian armel port doesn't take much advantage of it. A new ARM port requiring the presence of a FPU would help squ

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.09.2011 um 19:29 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: > "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" writes: >> per second). Finally, the rootfs is a plain standard Debian Squeeze without >> any optimization >> for boot speed. > > This probably means it is armel and not armhf yet? Yes. BTW: what is armhf? Neve

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Alon Ivtsan writes: > The video doesn't work in IceCat using HTML5 (WebM). Try youtube-dl and vlc. Tested and works at least in debian unstable. > A free phone should deliver its videos in a patent unencumbered format > whenever possible. Your position is that webm is patent encumbered but theo

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
> BTW: David has reported that the original QtMoko rootfs image does boot and > allows to > do some useful things on the GTA04. So it does not appear difficult to adapt > a real and full > QtMoko (or SHR or hackable:1 or ...) release for the GTA04. I wrote a porting guide for SHR(we also have one

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" writes: > per second). Finally, the rootfs is a plain standard Debian Squeeze without > any optimization > for boot speed. This probably means it is armel and not armhf yet? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lis

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Alon Ivtsan
The video doesn't work in IceCat using HTML5 (WebM). A free phone should deliver its videos in a patent unencumbered format whenever possible. On 9/21/11, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Am 21.09.2011 um 14:54 schrieb Davide Scaini: > >> But the comparison is a bit unfair... try to boot shr f

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.09.2011 um 14:54 schrieb Davide Scaini: > But the comparison is a bit unfair... try to boot shr from nand i'm sure i > will be faster than iphone. We just did not have a GTA02 with a working installation in NAND, except that old SD card we use for device testing after buzz-fixes. For u

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.09.2011 um 14:54 schrieb Davide Scaini: > Haha great! > I'm definitely curious about gta04... > (what is missing for gta04 imho is a new case... the actual case of gta02 is > too high in the borders of the screen) As soon as we have learned how to really make a new case, We will choose a

Re: GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 15:16 +, Michael Sokolov wrote: > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG31rCHZXh4 > > > > The winner is ... > > ... find out yourself! > > Some of us can't access YouTube because it's blocked (employer/etc). > Would you mind telling us i

Re: GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Michael Sokolov
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG31rCHZXh4 > > The winner is ... > ... find out yourself! Some of us can't access YouTube because it's blocked (employer/etc). Would you mind telling us in plain ASCII? MS ___ Openmoko

Re: GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
On 21/09/2011 13:45, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Here is a short video showing booting * GTA02 (with quite old OM2009.5 - modern SHR and QtMoko are faster) * GTA04 (with Debian Squeeze 6.0.2 and LXDE) and * iPhone 3G (iOS 4.2.1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG31rCHZXh4 The winne

Re: GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Alex Samorukov
Looks very cool. I am really waiting upgrade for my GTA02 :) On 09/21/2011 01:45 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Here is a short video showing booting * GTA02 (with quite old OM2009.5 - modern SHR and QtMoko are faster) * GTA04 (with Debian Squeeze 6.0.2 and LXDE) and * iPhone 3G (iOS 4.2.1)

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Davide Scaini
Haha great! I'm definitely curious about gta04... (what is missing for gta04 imho is a new case... the actual case of gta02 is too high in the borders of the screen) But the comparison is a bit unfair... try to boot shr from nand i'm sure i will be faster than iphone. d On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi all, On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 13:45, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > The winner is ... The one that is the first to boot! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.

GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Here is a short video showing booting * GTA02 (with quite old OM2009.5 - modern SHR and QtMoko are faster) * GTA04 (with Debian Squeeze 6.0.2 and LXDE) and * iPhone 3G (iOS 4.2.1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG31rCHZXh4 The winner is ... ... find out yourself! __