Re: uSD corruption

2011-12-16 Thread Ed Kapitein
On Friday 16 December 2011 00:39:36 fdvj...@vodafone.it wrote:
 Il 15/12/2011 22:57, Boudewijn ha scritto:
  On Thursday 15 December 2011 22:23:56 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
  fdvj...@vodafone.it writes:
  experience, during a day of usage, several freezings. I mean, when it
  
  1) What kernel?
  2) What boot loader?
  3) What boot options?
  4) What filesystem?
  
  5) uSD speed?
  
  
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 Sorry for the missing infos.
 OS: qtmoko v35 with kernel 2.6.34;
 bootloader: qi (shipped with qtomoko v35), no particular boot options,
 IINW; filesystem: ext2;
 uSD type: micro SDHC sdc4 8 gb class 4
 
 Regards
 Joif

Hi Joif,

Please take a look at [1] and [2] on how to set the SD clock to a lower value.
The drive strength param might have changed with the newer kernel, you have to 
google a bit to see what is the right one.

Kind regards,
Ed

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards/SD-C02G
[2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards

PS I still have sometimes data coruption on the SD card ( once every 2 months 
or so) so it still is not perfect, but very usable.

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Re: uSD corruption

2011-12-16 Thread David Matthews

I've had similar problems with that same (Kingston 8GB)  uSD card. I initially 
blamed qtmoko for this and switched to running it from a 2GB SanDisk card rather 
than NAND.  I'm pleased to say it (v35  v37) works really well set up like 
this.

I have doubts that my diagnosis was correct though as I think the Kingston
card was failing and I'm intending to try running from NAND again and
mounting the SanDisk card for data.

The whole business of uSDs on the freerunner is most confusing, for instance
a 4GB SanDisk I have does not work at all. Throw into the mix that the card
maybe failing, and it's then tricky to be sure what the issue is.

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Re: uSD corruption

2011-12-16 Thread Radek Polak
On Thursday 15 December 2011 22:00:22 fdvj...@vodafone.it wrote:

 Hi
 I have a Kingstone microSD card 8GB. It seems to be reliable for data
 but if I use it with a running distro, at this moment QtMoko, I
 experience, during a day of usage, several freezings. I mean, when it is
 in suspend mode (deep suspend enabled) if I press the power button the
 Neo does not recover from the suspend. I have to pull off the battery
 and then restart the Neo, but as can you imagine, after a couple of
 times the file system gets corrupted and I have to format the partition.
 Moreover this behaviour seems to become worse as the time passes.
 Should I consider to replace the uSD card? are there known issues in
 using running distro on it?
 Thanks.

For me uSD card never worked as stable rootfs. I always ended up with 
corrupted filesystem after a couple of days. But for data on FAT it always 
worked quite good.

I guess this is some flaw in Freerunner's hardware or kernel driver. On GTA04  
i have rootfs on uSD and no problems at all. I am starting to think that NAND 
on GTA04 is quite useless - it would be quite cool if it had 2 uSD cards 
instead (with BTRFS as fs it could rock).

Regards

Radek


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Re: [QtMoko] new theme: MokoFaen

2011-12-16 Thread fdvjoif

Il 16/12/2011 09:57, Radek Polak ha scritto:

On Thursday 15 December 2011 21:24:41 elf Pavlik wrote:


http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/qtmoko-theme-mokofaen.html

doesn't show up on:
http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/

Hi,
it's fixed now - i forget to pull when i added navit.

Regards

Radek

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Hi Radek
Sorry to say it but I suppose the package is wrong. There are a plenty 
of SVGs that are not intended to be used in theme, they are just the 
source and I'm quite sure they're causing the glitches. If you use only 
the PNGs (except of only two SVGs for the PIN box) all the glitches 
should go away (: Also note, in fact, that the .deb is about 7 MB, it 
should be much more light.
The correct files to be packaged are here [1] in the MokoFaen.tar.gz 
(not MokoFaen_SVG.tar.gz).

Thank you!

Joif

[1] http://db.tt/8KF7DHRp


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Re: WebOS for GTA04?

2011-12-16 Thread urodelo

A starting point can be:

https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/development_resources.html

For what I've red til now, they  (HP) should also release the application  
framework ENYO under open source license. Til now, I couldn't find any  
news about its license, probably we still need to wait some time.
Imho, I expect HP to keep a quite strong control over it, they will keep  
their patents and go on with their own developers working on webos. In  
other words a complete open project wouldn't be worth for them, but I  
really hope it'll be open enough to let us (you :-) work on it. I'm  
expecting coding will be under the strict control of HP, inside the  
community of developers.
Actually they are talking about porting it on other devices, which is at  
least a first good step, meaning they wont put limitation on which kind of  
devices

However, all this are more speculations than facts...

Wait some time and see what's coming next...

urodelo

On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:39:33 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller  
h...@goldelico.com wrote:



After HP announced to open source WebOS I wonder
what we need to get it onto a GTA04 device?

And is there already a clear picture how completely
the source will be opened? Under which licence?
And which limitations? Which timeframe?

Questions over questions... Let's discuss answers...

Nikolaus



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Re: Navit for QtMoko

2011-12-16 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2011-12-15, czw o godzinie 16:00 +0100, Radek Polak pisze:
 Hi,
 also navit is now ported to qtmoko.
Did you ported it or was it someone else? Does it still use X server?
Anyway big thanks to those who did it. Navit was the most lacking app
for me on QtMoko.
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Re: Navit for QtMoko

2011-12-16 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 16 December 2011 14:21:31 Patryk Benderz wrote:

 Dnia 2011-12-15, czw o godzinie 16:00 +0100, Radek Polak pisze:
  Hi,
  also navit is now ported to qtmoko.
 
 Did you ported it or was it someone else? Does it still use X server?
 Anyway big thanks to those who did it. Navit was the most lacking app
 for me on QtMoko.

I have ported it - it was quite easy. It does not use X server. I uses qt 
painter that is drawing to framebuffer as all other qtmoko apps.

Regards

Radek



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Re: [QtMoko] new theme: MokoFaen

2011-12-16 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 16 December 2011 10:20:12 fdvj...@vodafone.it wrote:

 Hi Radek
 Sorry to say it but I suppose the package is wrong. There are a plenty
 of SVGs that are not intended to be used in theme, they are just the
 source and I'm quite sure they're causing the glitches. If you use only
 the PNGs (except of only two SVGs for the PIN box) all the glitches
 should go away (: Also note, in fact, that the .deb is about 7 MB, it
 should be much more light.
 The correct files to be packaged are here [1] in the MokoFaen.tar.gz
 (not MokoFaen_SVG.tar.gz).
 Thank you!
 
 Joif
 
 [1] http://db.tt/8KF7DHRp

Ahh oki, i'll try to fix it.

Regards

Radek

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Neo Freerunner as a controller

2011-12-16 Thread fdvjoif

Hi
I'm interested in the use of the Neo Freerunner as a controller, using 
its accelerometers, mainly to test a flight sim on my computer.
I found the project openmokontrol, but is it still alive? I found 
references here [1] and here [2] but the project seems not mantained 
anymore.

Are there similar softwares? Something for QtMoko?

Regards
Joif

[1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td4252220
[2] http://code.google.com/p/openmokontrol/

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Re: Neo Freerunner as a controller

2011-12-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi,

fdvj...@vodafone.it writes:
 I'm interested in the use of the Neo Freerunner as a controller, using
 its accelerometers, mainly to test a flight sim on my computer.
 I found the project openmokontrol, but is it still alive? I found
 references here [1] and here [2] but the project seems not mantained
 anymore.
 Are there similar softwares? Something for QtMoko?

I just streamed /dev/accelerometer-top data over wifi and generated fake
keypresses on my desktop. At least here it is really not something you
can enjoy. The accelerometer reports orientation of the phone only when
it is not moving. When you move the phone it will of course be skewed by
the acceleration.

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Re: Neo Freerunner as a controller

2011-12-16 Thread Boudewijn
On Friday 16 December 2011 18:51:02 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Hi,
 
 fdvj...@vodafone.it writes:
  I'm interested in the use of the Neo Freerunner as a controller, using
  its accelerometers, mainly to test a flight sim on my computer.
  I found the project openmokontrol, but is it still alive? I found
  references here [1] and here [2] but the project seems not mantained
  anymore.
  Are there similar softwares? Something for QtMoko?
 
 I just streamed /dev/accelerometer-top data over wifi and generated fake
 keypresses on my desktop. At least here it is really not something you
 can enjoy. The accelerometer reports orientation of the phone only when
 it is not moving. When you move the phone it will of course be skewed by
 the acceleration.
 
I have played with it as well, hoping to use it as a mouse. The problem here 
is that the only one direction that's accelerated constantly, is the one 
downwards. 

The showstopper for me was that the stream would choke after some time. I 
think I used bluetooth most of the time, but I'm not quite sure anymore. I at 
least tried one other way of connecting, probably USB, to find out if that 
would relieve the choking behaviour, but it didn't: after a while, the stream 
would die.

I took the Openmoko wike pages Technical:Accelerometer_Fundamentals and 
Accelerometer_data_retrieval as a starting point, the test application worked 
almost out of the box (I had to change the input event to another number). 
Other people who took this code documented their use at [1]

I also took the print statements and other code that seemed not useful away, 
to see if that kept the connection stable. In case you have better luck, I'd 
be interested in your results!

Boudewijn

[1] https://manavkataria.wordpress.com/tag/air-mouse/



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