Re: [QT] Debugging apps help.
On Saturday 25 February 2012 02:10:47 Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote: Can i debug them in my pc build evniroement ? It's possible to use qvfb - i am not sure in which state it currently is. I prefer to build and debug the app as normal PC application in QtCreator. Then create qbuild.pro and build it for QtMoko. In case of problems i use gdb on the device. Also how can i expand to see some macros like QTOPIA_ADD_APPLICATION(QTOPIA_TARGET, MainWindow) QTOPIA_MAIN Basically these are shortcuts for QtopiaApplication calls. It should be documented quite nicely here: http://radekp.github.com/qtmoko/api/buildsystem/over-applications-1.html You dont have to use these macros. E.g. in Navit and FBReader we dont use them. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to bring forward the community?
Hi all, while I am still fiddling with GTA04 production yield issues, I think it is important to reason about the big view. So I would like to encourage to share what you are working on (kernel? driver? user space?) and what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community a small or big step.. Any idea is welcome (even if you think we already know about it). Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
Hi all, while I am still fiddling with GTA04 production yield issues, I think it is important to reason about the big view. So I would like to encourage to share what you are working on (kernel? driver? user space?) and what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community a small or big step.. Any idea is welcome (even if you think we already know about it). If anything is welcome then... I've left OpenMoko commutiny long ago, but I'm really disapponted by today's devices and I want to return. Unfortunately N900 changed my mind and now I consider hardware qwerty keyboard not an option but a must. I will immediately order any GTA04 successor that will have qwerty keyboard. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
On Monday 27 February 2012 11:35:38 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: So I would like to encourage to share what you are working on (kernel? driver? user space?) and what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community a small or big step.. Any idea is welcome (even if you think we already know about it). I have been now 5 days away from home and had gta04 with me. It was quite interesting now to switch roles from developer to regular user. I had many outgoing calls. It was mostly ok - once my wife complained that she can hear herself. I hope i can fix this in the voice routing program or with PCM profile AT commands... There was some mess when i called to work, they declined the call and called me back. Something must have messed up and i couldnt hear anything. I have no idea what it was... I could write SMS, but the response came one day later after reboot - so there must be something bugged there... I had to charge battery once a day. The QtMoko's keyboards are all crap. I had no internet - for me the wifi sensitivity is bad and i have not yet implemented umts in qtmoko. On the bright side - i have a lot of videos and mp3's on the phone and they play really nice. I had offline maps - this is also really nice - other phones are not that good in this. So generally - the phone is now quite usable, but with some annoyances. And you have to take care about the phone. It would be nice to just use it. Now i am thinking about most easy way how to get there. From the kernel side i think we still need better suspend, but generally the kernel is working nice. Userspace needs better audio routing - louder playback and better echo cancellation and rock solid modem support. SMS+calls should work on 100%. I think i will now add support for oFono to QtMoko. QtMoko's modem support is not bad - but oFono looks solid and actively developed so i really want to give it try. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM as car navigation
Hi, 2012/2/26 Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de: please see Openmoko inside a vehicle as navigation system: https://despora.de/posts/228392 Credits go to Frank Jaeger (fr...@fotodrachen.de) ! Software: Navit with routing data from OpenStreetMap. gpsd shows actual position. Hardware: Freerunner with vehicle holder (19 eur in pulster.eu shop). Great, I recently posted in order to discover if someone already did such a job. Personnally, I used navit with qtmoko and SHR. Worked quite good. But as I removed my SIM, I'm now looking for a projet dedicated to converting Freerunner in car navigation system (and nothing more). Do you know what operating system was used by Frank Jaeger? -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community?
Hi. On 27.02.2012 11:35, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: So I would like to encourage to share what you are working on (kernel? driver? user space?) and what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community a small or big step.. Any idea is welcome (even if you think we already know about it). I've been working on the 3D printable case [0] for the GTA04 (and GTA01 + GTA02) in the last weeks/months. I'm almost done with the first full and usable version. It was pressented at the FOSDEM as well and a lot of people liked it. I've also fixed a bug in Iliwi (SHR's WiFi application), which prevented it from connecting to WPA2 networks. Now you can easily connect your GTA04 to your network through a GUI and use Firefox or Eve (both in SHR's feeds) to browse the web – this is already working quite well (except the power usage of the WiFi chip). I've also written an easy step-by-step tutorial for installing and setting up SHR on your GTA04 [1]. Now, that I'll have some more time soon, I'll start working on SHR/FSO again, where I'll help with integrating some of the workarrounds for the GTA04 modem into FSO with the aim of using my GTA04 with SHR/FSO as a daily phone. A lot of work is already done there. It can send and receive calls and SMS, has a working (not perfect) audio routing etc. but there is some testing and bug fixing needed. Furthermore, I'll keep the SHR kernel [2] synchronized with Neil's 3.2-gta04 branch, which is working pretty nice already, as Radek stated. Cheers, Lukas [0] http://blog.slyon.de/3d-printed-gta04-case [1] http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Devices/GTA04/InstallGuide [2] http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/3.2-gta04 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM as car navigation
Am 27.02.2012 17:21, schrieb Guilhem Bonnefille: Hi, .. Do you know what operating system was used by Frank Jaeger? Hallo Guilhem, it's a QTmoko v38. I startet with v35 and navit in QX-mode. Now navit can be installed very confortable as App from http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/category-gps.html using the browser. But navit didn't get the actual gps-position. Also after upgrading to v37 and v39 and several attempts to configure the gpsd-vehicle in /home/root/.navit/navit.xml [1] Finally I formatted my uSD-Card and unpacked a fresh QTmoko v38. But this didn't help me, too. Last weekend I started a new attemp and get navit to work! I was so happy that i postet ist on Despora.de and FB. I don't really know, what the reason was. I think it was a missing device in the gpsd-configuration. Other GPS-Apps worked well - but not navit. Maybe they use the gps-device without gpsd? I had to run $ dpkg-reconfigure gpsd and set device to /dev/ttySAV1 Is gpsd for gta02 shipped with empty device-entry in .conf? [1] https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/issues/23 -- Frank ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM as car navigation
On 27.02.2012 19:27, Frank wrote: Am 27.02.2012 17:21, schrieb Guilhem Bonnefille: Hi, .. Do you know what operating system was used by Frank Jaeger? Hallo Guilhem, it's a QTmoko v38. I startet with v35 and navit in QX-mode. Now navit can be installed very confortable as App from http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/category-gps.html using the browser. But navit didn't get the actual gps-position. Also after upgrading to v37 and v39 and several attempts to configure the gpsd-vehicle in /home/root/.navit/navit.xml [1] Finally I formatted my uSD-Card and unpacked a fresh QTmoko v38. But this didn't help me, too. Last weekend I started a new attemp and get navit to work! I was so happy that i postet ist on Despora.de and FB. I don't really know, what the reason was. I think it was a missing device in the gpsd-configuration. Other GPS-Apps worked well - but not navit. Maybe they use the gps-device without gpsd? I had to run $ dpkg-reconfigure gpsd and set device to /dev/ttySAV1 Is gpsd for gta02 shipped with empty device-entry in .conf? [1] https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/issues/23 Most statements on the blog are totaly wrong! I use my neo with navit since I have purchased my neo last autumn! You have to set the correct device for gpsd once. Then You have to install festival-lite with apt and by configuring navit-config file in home dir of user. that is it! So speech output is working, ok english, so You have to set up the environment variable correct. I did not, because is not so importent for me. Then navit is usable by using the QX-way. Radek's new QX-less version, I have not tested until now. But seems to make it a little bit easier. So install festival, configure navit correct and it will work -- Regaards Sebastian Reinhardt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM as car navigation
hi timo, the display freezes, I don't know if that means that the kernel has crashed. any ideas. best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM as car navigation
robin spielr...@web.de writes: the display freezes, I don't know if that means that the kernel has crashed. any ideas. Does it reply to ping over wifi or usb when that happens? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
Well, it becomes sort of a who-is-who and who-is-doing-what list :) Shouldn't we take this as a trigger point to revitalize the wiki.openmoko.org? I am sure a significant amount of subscribers of this list also have write access. The minimum would be a page GTA04 Projects (i.e .http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA04-Projects ). The reason why I propose to host that on wiki.openmoko.org (and not www.gta04.org) is that it should not be tied to the GTA04 hardware but also over (hardware-agnostic) software. Nikolaus Am 27.02.2012 um 18:33 schrieb Lukas Märdian: Hi. On 27.02.2012 11:35, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: So I would like to encourage to share what you are working on (kernel? driver? user space?) and what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community a small or big step.. Any idea is welcome (even if you think we already know about it). I've been working on the 3D printable case [0] for the GTA04 (and GTA01 + GTA02) in the last weeks/months. I'm almost done with the first full and usable version. It was pressented at the FOSDEM as well and a lot of people liked it. I've also fixed a bug in Iliwi (SHR's WiFi application), which prevented it from connecting to WPA2 networks. Now you can easily connect your GTA04 to your network through a GUI and use Firefox or Eve (both in SHR's feeds) to browse the web – this is already working quite well (except the power usage of the WiFi chip). I've also written an easy step-by-step tutorial for installing and setting up SHR on your GTA04 [1]. Now, that I'll have some more time soon, I'll start working on SHR/FSO again, where I'll help with integrating some of the workarrounds for the GTA04 modem into FSO with the aim of using my GTA04 with SHR/FSO as a daily phone. A lot of work is already done there. It can send and receive calls and SMS, has a working (not perfect) audio routing etc. but there is some testing and bug fixing needed. Furthermore, I'll keep the SHR kernel [2] synchronized with Neil's 3.2-gta04 branch, which is working pretty nice already, as Radek stated. Cheers, Lukas [0] http://blog.slyon.de/3d-printed-gta04-case [1] http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Devices/GTA04/InstallGuide [2] http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/3.2-gta04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community?
Hi, for me the biggest problem in GTA02 is the sound quality in calls. And it seems to be, that there are problems with echo in GTA04, too. But GTA04 is OMAP3 based, and OMAP3 has a DSP on board. In the beagleboard, there was a SW-component called DSP-bridge, and when I recall correctly the DSP can be directly be fed with McBSP data. So if the McBSP routing to and from the DSP would be possible, the DSP could do the echo canceling and any possible sound shaping. So there are some questions: Is the DSP activated in the Kernel for GTA04? Is the routing of the McBSP-data to and from the DSP possible? I guess the main CPU could sleep during call, leaving the rest to the DSP. Would this idea be feasible? I would love to work on this, if I find the time (I have some experience with signal processing and programming DSPs, but no speech processing), but I doubt I could do it alone. I could do my tests on a beagleboard (with GTA04/Hybrid), which I already have. BR, Joerg On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 11:35 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Hi all, while I am still fiddling with GTA04 production yield issues, I think it is important to reason about the big view. So I would like to encourage to share what you are working on (kernel? driver? user space?) and what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community a small or big step.. Any idea is welcome (even if you think we already know about it). Nikolaus ___ Gta04-owner mailing list gta04-ow...@goldelico.com http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/gta04-owner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
Hi all, while I am still fiddling with GTA04 production yield issues, I think it is important to reason about the big view. So I would like to encourage to share what you are working on (kernel? driver? user space?) and what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community a small or big step.. Any idea is welcome (even if you think we already know about it). If anything is welcome then... I've left OpenMoko commutiny long ago, but I'm really disapponted by today's devices and I want to return. Unfortunately N900 changed my mind and now I consider hardware qwerty keyboard not an option but a must. I will immediately order any GTA04 successor that will have qwerty keyboard. My personal view is largely the same, as is my story. A hardware keyboard is necessary for me, although I would be equally happy with qwerty or numbers only. What kept me contributing to Openmoko was mostly lack of motivation. When I wanted to contribute, there was a lot of trouble with the basic services - GPS, WiFi, telephony. Those elements of the stack have high entry levels for contribution, and at the same time they drain a lot of patience when they don't work. So instead of using my Freerunner for tasks like PIM, finding rough edges there and contributing back (or packaging programs that rely on base functionality), I was struggling with things like custom WiFi scripts and similar that are only of any use for me. I think that a necessary prerequisite for community growth is to have a rock-solid phone stack, but everyone already knows that :) Having an easy way to build and share programs (without the need of an entire distribution checkout like SHR needed if I remember right) would also help. Native compilation perhaps? Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM as car navigation
hi, i still have problems with qtmoko v39 to use navit or tango/foxtrotgps. would you mind to post your gpsd file and the navit.xml line for your gpsd connection? I start gps manually via the gps on script beforehand and nerongps gets a nice fix, in contrast to navit :-( best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM as car navigation
hi timo, unfortunately I can't answer that as that usually happens during driving in my car ... Could I do anything useful to give you more information on that? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
rhn omcomali@porcupinefactory.org writes: Having an easy way to build and share programs (without the need of an entire distribution checkout like SHR needed if I remember right) would also help. Native compilation perhaps? FWIW, native compilation has always been possible on the GTA02, at least under Debian. Admittedly it was sometimes painfully slow - depending on what I was compiling - but nevertheless definitely possible. On the GTA04 it is quite straightforward and quick to compile things. I'm doing it all the time. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community?
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:36:50 + Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote: rhn omcomali@porcupinefactory.org writes: Having an easy way to build and share programs (without the need of an entire distribution checkout like SHR needed if I remember right) would also help. Native compilation perhaps? FWIW, native compilation has always been possible on the GTA02, at least under Debian. Admittedly it was sometimes painfully slow - depending on what I was compiling - but nevertheless definitely possible. On the GTA04 it is quite straightforward and quick to compile things. I'm doing it all the time. While I agree with all the above, I would very much like to be able to compile GTA04 binaries on my x86_64 multi-core notebook. I can do it easily for the kernel, but that is made much easier by the lack of external dependencies - no libraries to link with. I tried once - having a Debian/arm distro in a directory somewhere and setting up all the various paths, but I couldn't make it work. Does anyone know how to do this? (most of my user-space code is python which doesn't need compiling, but a few bits are C and I would *really* like to be able to make install and it would build arm version and scp them over.) NeilBrown signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QT] make -clean error
After building qtmoko v39 in my debian -squeeze box : in the qtmoko-build directory: $make -clean rm /home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/src/settings/language/liblanguage.so rm /home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/sdk/lib/libspygrind.so.1.0.0 *** Error /clean: Prerequisite failed /sub_clean: Prerequisite failed /src/clean_sub: Prerequisite failed /src/clean: Prerequisite failed /src/sub_clean: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/clean_sub: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/clean: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/sub_clean: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/qt/clean_sub: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/qt/clean: Command execution failed $$QT_PATCH_ENV $$MAKE -C $$QTDIR/src clean MAKEFILE=Makefile QMAKEFEATURES=/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp- qtmoko/src/build/qt_patch QMAKEPATH=/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp- qtmoko/qtopiacore/qt QPE_CONFIG=functions mkspec rules templates subdirs php qbuild depends installs i18n runlast defaults use_pic packages warn_on release free_package enable_rpath enable_malloc_hook enable_strict_flags build_device enable_qvfb qws build_rotate enable_ssl enable_qtopiawhereabouts enable_bluetooth enable_infrared enable_dbus enable_telephony enable_cell enable_voip enable_vpn enable_qtopiamedia enable_phonon build_libamr qtuitest enable_pictureflow build_qtopia_sqlite build_qtopia in_build_tree unix phone projects QTOPIACORE_CONFIG= QPEDIR=/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp- qtmoko-build SDKROOT=/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko-build/sdk ADD_CFLAGS= make -C /home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/qtopiacore/host/src clean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/qtopiacore/host/src' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/qtopiacore/host/src' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. make: *** [clean] Error 1 Why is that? Also if i run again make -clean will seem to repeat again al l the previous commands in a behaviour that reminds me the issue #45 https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/issues/45 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
