Re: OM as car navigation
Hi Frank, Thanks for your answer. 2012/2/27 Frank fr...@fotodrachen.de: Am 27.02.2012 17:21, schrieb Guilhem Bonnefille: I don't really know, what the reason was. I think it was a missing device in the gpsd-configuration. Other GPS-Apps worked well - but not navit. Maybe they use the gps-device without gpsd? I had to run $ dpkg-reconfigure gpsd and set device to /dev/ttySAV1 Is gpsd for gta02 shipped with empty device-entry in .conf? Strange. Did you run gpsd? Last time I played with navit in qtmoko, I realized that qtmoko does not run automatically gpsd. Some packaging work must still be done to manage gpsd when GPS device is switched on/off and when navit is started/stopped. As far as I know, NeronGPS uses raw device directly (does not use gpsd), and directly switch on/off the power for the device. At the opposite, navit is really well packaged in SHR. A simple tap on the navit icon and everithing goes well. Perhaps someone can pick some ideas from SHR to port them to qtmoko. Nevertheless, this is all the reason why I wish to start a dedicated project. A base distribution with just some configuration to: - power up the device at start time - save and restore the A-GPS data - start navit - some choices to optimize rendering on Freerunner (refresh rate, detail level...) -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
Am 28.02.2012 um 09:07 schrieb openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster): what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community Hardware: One-man-show Nikolaus Software: One-man-show Radek Well, there are more People behind (e.g. Neil, Lukas, Christoph, Rene, ...), but... I am praying each night, that both of you fasten your seatbelt daily. Instead a participating community we converted to simple consumers waiting for news and order buttons. We dont need new features, but a new spirit first hand. Poor pre-order numbers of GTA04 proove this. ... Yes, I think your observation is right. But where has the general Spirit gone? Is this indicating that partially Open source has won? Or cheap devices built in China are the most important? Or is it lack of spare time? Or are we just watching how iAndroid is dominating the world? What would we need to get New Spirit into our Community? Nikolaus Christoph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
I think that the success of spark [1] explains the failure of GTA04. My 2 cents d [1] http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2012/02/spark-pre-orders-closed.html On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Am 28.02.2012 um 09:07 schrieb openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster): what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community Hardware: One-man-show Nikolaus Software: One-man-show Radek Well, there are more People behind (e.g. Neil, Lukas, Christoph, Rene, ...), but... I am praying each night, that both of you fasten your seatbelt daily. Instead a participating community we converted to simple consumers waiting for news and order buttons. We dont need new features, but a new spirit first hand. Poor pre-order numbers of GTA04 proove this. ... Yes, I think your observation is right. But where has the general Spirit gone? Is this indicating that partially Open source has won? Or cheap devices built in China are the most important? Or is it lack of spare time? Or are we just watching how iAndroid is dominating the world? What would we need to get New Spirit into our Community? Nikolaus Christoph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:12, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de wrote: What would we need to get New Spirit into our Community? We need courage bashing Apple and Android as the evil, sucking our datas and brains. Giving as the feeling of heros, only left free human beings, victors of Goliaths. A new platine is not enough, even with zillions of features included. We need a story together with it. We need a myth. Perhaps we could start a new myth! The OLPC hardware has the possibility to make a mesh network. Can we do the same? Can we build a mobile Internet, perhaps using store and forward? Since the Internet is being broken down, we need a new one. Once upon a time, there were BBS-es that created networks using store-and-forward (anyone recall the name?). Also, 27Mc networks were built using the same techniques. We should do the same using BT and WiFi! F*ck the Mafiaa! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Storage
On Monday 27 of February 2012 08:51:32 Radek Polak wrote: On Thursday 23 February 2012 20:32:38 Hrabosh wrote: Hi All, anyone knows where to set what partition (or directory) should be visible when FR is connected to the PC as an USB storage device? If I plug my FR ( running QtMoko v37) to the computer (no matter if Linux or Windows) I can see only first 40MB partition of my SD card. You can have a look at /opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-mass-storage-on.sh and modify it to fit you. Seems to be working, thank you !! Zbynek Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT] make -clean error
Alexandros, without any further research -- make -clean looks dubious to me. shouldn't it rather be make clean ? After building qtmoko v39 in my debian -squeeze box : in the qtmoko-build directory: $make -clean rm /home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/src/settings/language/liblanguage.so rm /home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/sdk/lib/libspygrind.so.1.0.0 *** Error /clean: Prerequisite failed /sub_clean: Prerequisite failed /src/clean_sub: Prerequisite failed /src/clean: Prerequisite failed /src/sub_clean: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/clean_sub: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/clean: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/sub_clean: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/qt/clean_sub: Prerequisite failed /src/libraries/qt/clean: Command execution failed $$QT_PATCH_ENV $$MAKE -C $$QTDIR/src clean MAKEFILE=Makefile QMAKEFEATURES=/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp- qtmoko/src/build/qt_patch QMAKEPATH=/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp- qtmoko/qtopiacore/qt QPE_CONFIG=functions mkspec rules templates subdirs php qbuild depends installs i18n runlast defaults use_pic packages warn_on release free_package enable_rpath enable_malloc_hook enable_strict_flags build_device enable_qvfb qws build_rotate enable_ssl enable_qtopiawhereabouts enable_bluetooth enable_infrared enable_dbus enable_telephony enable_cell enable_voip enable_vpn enable_qtopiamedia enable_phonon build_libamr qtuitest enable_pictureflow build_qtopia_sqlite build_qtopia in_build_tree unix phone projects QTOPIACORE_CONFIG= QPEDIR=/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp- qtmoko-build SDKROOT=/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko-build/sdk ADD_CFLAGS= make -C /home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/qtopiacore/host/src clean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/qtopiacore/host/src' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko- build/qtopiacore/host/src' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. make: *** [clean] Error 1 Why is that? Also if i run again make -clean will seem to repeat again al l the previous commands in a behaviour that reminds me the issue #45 https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/issues/45 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Schon vor dem Come-Back von Modern Talking wusste ich: Dieter Bohlen ist der Preis der Freiheit. Heinz Rudolf Kunze ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
Am 28.02.2012 um 09:47 schrieb Davide Scaini: I think that the success of spark [1] explains the failure of GTA04. My 2 cents d [1] http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2012/02/spark-pre-orders-closed.html May be, but I am not sure. A 7 inch tablet (and much worse pixel per inch) without UMTS and no GPS and other gimmicks is not really a smartphone platform like the GTA04... The price of 200 EUR/USD is indeed good and I still wonder how they can make it such cheap. Except if they produce thousands of units. Does anyone know how many units have been subscribed in total? And when it is planned to become available? Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com писал(а) в своём письме Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:35:50 +0100: The OLPC hardware has the possibility to make a mesh network. Can we do the same? Yes, we can. Everybody can. IIRC they use 802.11s which is in linux kernel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT] make -clean error
Alexandros, without any further research -- make -clean looks dubious to me. shouldn't it rather be make clean ? I run it without '-' but still the job stops with the same errors.. alexandros ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT] Debugging apps help.
On Saturday 25 February 2012 02:10:47 Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote: Can i debug them in my pc build evniroement ? It's possible to use qvfb - i am not sure in which state it currently is. I prefer to build and debug the app as normal PC application in QtCreator. Then create qbuild.pro and build it for QtMoko. In case of problems i use gdb on the device. Also how can i expand to see some macros like QTOPIA_ADD_APPLICATION(QTOPIA_TARGET, MainWindow) QTOPIA_MAIN Basically these are shortcuts for QtopiaApplication calls. It should be documented quite nicely here: http://radekp.github.com/qtmoko/api/buildsystem/over-applications-1.html You dont have to use these macros. E.g. in Navit and FBReader we dont use them. Regards Radek When using gdb on the device wont we miss the source files ? i mean, we'll be able to see the source line in gdb on the device? Alexandros ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
Am 28.02.2012 um 12:12 schrieb Christoph Pulster: What would we need to get New Spirit into our Community? We need courage bashing Apple and Android as the evil, sucking our datas and brains. Giving as the feeling of heros, only left free human beings, victors of Goliaths. The aestethics of home-brewn projects is disattracting even geeks nowadays. Openmoko Inc. did quite a good job here, hiding all the tech stuff in beta-status under a stylish mobile idea, calling it a mixture of revolution and art. A new platine is not enough, even with zillions of features included. We need a story together with it. We need a myth. Hi Christoph, after sleeping a night (and fastening my seat belts as every morning), I think you have hit the key point: we get sportive spirit by competition. So the question is, with whom we (this community) are competing? E.g. * QtMoko SHR vs. Android iOS Win Mobile etc.! * GTA04's flexibility and hw-modifiability vs. any commercial device! * the art of self modifiable 3D-printed case vs. take what you get! etc. So let's start/continue/speed up competing against the rest of the world :) Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
