Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Brian
I'm not even going to bother with the good netiquette of not top-posting on this one so sorry if that offends you all. Michael, Whether you realize it or not you're giving open culture and this community specifically a 'black eye' by posting such inflammatory rhetoric. I, and probably most others

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
"Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli" wrote: > That points nowhere. For you maybe, but not for me. > I think you should instead try to go the legal way, I disagree. Man-made law of every kind is my arch-enemy, and the purpose of my life is to break those laws. Without law-breaking life becomes devoid of

Re: [Om2008.9] screen locking application?

2012-03-04 Thread Andrey Mitroshin
Hello, Is there some application for qtmoko to lock the device so nobody can get personal information from the device in the case device being lost or stolen? On Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 08:34:21PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Saturday, July 30, 2011 a las 10:21:38AM +0200, Matthias Apitz >

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
>However, my work on building a Totally Illegal Phone That points nowhere. I think you should instead try to go the legal way, so you can't be attacked in court, because it's way too easy to attack you if you do something illegal. Theses companies have a lot of lawyers and spend a lot on it. The

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
>- what's so hackable about the calypso fw? as far as i recall, it was a >major afford to get an updated fw and make it flashable. and how much less >hackable is the new gsm chip's fw? Well, you can run osmocom-bb or nuttx on it. for instance with nuttx: root@om-gta02:~# /etc/init.d/dbus-1 sto

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > IMHO that has nothing to do with freedom at all. Just personal enrichment. Objection: it is *NOT* personal enrichment if I share. If I were to ever get a hold of the ware that I am after, I would NOT greedily hoard it for myself like its current holders are doi

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.03.2012 um 21:14 schrieb Michael Sokolov: > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> Could it be possible that those "greedy bastards" don't even exist except >> in your wishful thinking? > > I don't buy that - I don't buy the fairy-tale that each and every > former employee of Om-Inc who ha

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Michael Sokolov
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Could it be possible that those "greedy bastards" don't even exist except > in your wishful thinking? I don't buy that - I don't buy the fairy-tale that each and every former employee of Om-Inc who had NDA'd access to The Treasure has refrained from sneaking a p

Re: [Gta04-owner] what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.03.2012 um 14:55 schrieb Benjamin Deering: > > My gta02 innards will probably be reassigned to monitoring my kegerator. > Since it has i2c and wifi, I should be able to connect load sensors, a > thermometer, and a sensor to know when the compressor is running. It could > then send the

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Am 04.03.2012 um 00:59 schrieb Michael Sokolov: > "arne anka" wrote: > >> but if nikolaus is ok with that (re-stocking the used GTA02 boards, that >> is :-), that's certainly solution. > > As I understand it, he already does that. Yes, we have some GTA02 boards w/o display... > >> - what'

Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Am 03.03.2012 um 14:07 schrieb Gerald A: > > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: > > Am 01.03.2012 um 13:28 schrieb Wolfgang Spraul: > > >> So what to use? Nothing to use... > > > > We should look for what comes after phones and tablets. > > What's next? > >

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Arne, Am 03.03.2012 um 22:44 schrieb arne anka: > what's stopping me from subscribing for the GTA04 is simply the question, > what to do with the innards of my disembowled GTA02. > although the GTA02 as well as a new GTA04 would be litle more than a toy > anyway, i shrink back from the idea

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-04 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 03.03.2012 um 11:00 schrieb Lionel Broche: > Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an averaged-skilled > person to carry out the customisation of the GTA04 board to change the > connector? > Also, would it be feasible to make a GTA04 module that could be connected to > e

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-04 Thread Lionel Broche
true, that would be easier. But it also need more electronics. On 3 March 2012 19:25, Al Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 03 March 2012 10:00:27 Lionel Broche wrote: > > Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an > averaged-skilled > > person to carry out the customisation of the GTA

Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Lionel Broche
vibration is a pretty good idea though, have you tried it arne? On 3 March 2012 21:20, arne anka wrote: > sounds is a no-go. > the only sound i tolerate is the one coming out of the earpiece/headset > when making/recieving a call or listening to music. > > > --- On Sat, 3/3/12, Lionel Broche w

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread arne anka
(but i would be willing to donate/add a couple of euros if it will help someone to buy a GTA04 who can't afford the full or even the rebated price) myself and others in this list have made the same offer... that's very good to know. i didn't follow the development of sales too close (thoug

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Neil Jerram
msoko...@ivan.harhan.org (Michael Sokolov) writes: > close in terms of hackability. Unfortunately the greedy bastards are > refusing to share, hence extracting the ware from them requires the > use of a soldering iron, inserted rectally. If anyone is willing to I'm sorry, but that is an intoler

Re: what to with 02 when upgrading to 04? was: Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-03-04 Thread Fernando Martins
On 03/03/2012 10:44 PM, arne anka wrote: (but i would be willing to donate/add a couple of euros if it will help someone to buy a GTA04 who can't afford the full or even the rebated price) myself and others in this list have made the same offer...