Re: ideas for a personal cluster with gta04
joa...@verona.se writes: In the spirit of the recent ideas threads here, I'd like to share my ideas that I would like to achieve with the gta04, as part of a larger system. I wrote it in an article format, and it isn't finished, but nothing ever is. So here goes. I really like your ideas. I don't have specific comments on them for now, but in general the client-server approach looks very interesting. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ideas for a personal cluster with gta04
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:37 AM, joa...@verona.se wrote: *** instant messaging irc clients on the laptop or phone uses the server as gateway to other systems. Bitlbee is used for the proxy. znc fronts bitlbee, which handles the connections and logging. Any reason not to use Jabber (XMPP)? Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stop whininig / be friendly
On 21 May 2012 09:51:00 +0200 openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) wrote: Hi Harald, thanks for your advices, which are intelligent ones, really. You are right, bitterness is what I feel. Why ? Openmoko forget to buy MP3-patent rights. The german customs seized my 500pcs-pallett order from China. I had to sign contract with patent holders, which is valid since 2017. So 5 years more I am a f.. slave [...] Thanks for that tidbit, you should probably right about it, officially, as one more argument against software patents. The way I see it, software patents on MP3s really *actually* hurt the inovative (mostly in that it is the most open phone around) OpenMoko project and its few distributors. This should not be hushed. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ideas for a personal cluster with gta04
Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:37 AM, joa...@verona.se wrote: *** instant messaging irc clients on the laptop or phone uses the server as gateway to other systems. Bitlbee is used for the proxy. znc fronts bitlbee, which handles the connections and logging. Any reason not to use Jabber (XMPP)? I'm not sure how to answer this withouth the answer turning into a rambling mess. I'll make an attempt. Bitlbee is so far the best IM aggregator I have used. It accepts many IM protocols for input, and provides IRC for output. The stack I use everyday currently looks like this: ERC(an Emacs IRC client) - ZNC - Bitlbee Bitlbee connects to: MSN, Facebook, corporate networks using libpurple, Skype, etc. Facebook uses Jabber, so Bitlbee can in fact front Jabber connections as well. I've also added an Ejabberd to the system recently but I haven't gained much experience yet. Bitlbee will front it also. So, to summarise pros and cons: + bitlbee + znc is a reliable stack that connects me to all my friends. Even when using the GTA02 I got complimented how well the stack worked even when I was in the Subway or something. chat connections are held by ZNC even when the network is flaky. - I can't do everything over IRC, that XMPP could do. OTOH no one complains so I'm not really sure what I'm missing. - it is distressing that my friends like to use non-free IM services, but when you look closer at it, only Skype really really sucks, and I'm trying to find solutions for that. There is much more to be said about this, but in closing, the short term goal is a pragmatic solution, the long term solution will allow people to easily use a free system. Christ van Willegen -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
server update
Dear Community (Here comes an overdue update...) Harald, with help from Roh and Gismo, has been updating / consolidating our server infrastructure and will soon migrate to modern hardware. I'm working on transferring the openmoko.org trademark and domain ownership to a recognized non-profit entity in the Free Software community. This is an important step that we've wanted to do for some time. More details will follow. In the meantime, we're actively looking for a volunteer with strong sysadmin skills to continue to maintain the infrastructure after these changes. The basic setup will consist of debian systems with apache, lighttpd, mediawiki, trac, svn, git, exim, mailman, cyrus-imapd, openvz, vsftpd and munin. If anyone is interested, please contact myself and Harald off-list. Finally, I want to give a personal thanks to Roh and Gismo for all their work keeping our infrastructure alive. Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stop whininig / be friendly
Pulster You and I both know we did what we could behind the scenes to help you. Patents are an awful mess that really hurt startups. Especially in capital intensive businesses like ours was. If you want to come at me, do it like the gentleman I knew you to be. You have my phone and email. I'm not going anywhere. Sean On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de wrote: Hi Harald, thanks for your advices, which are intelligent ones, really. You are right, bitterness is what I feel. Why ? Openmoko forget to buy MP3-patent rights. The german customs seized my 500pcs-pallett order from China. I had to sign contract with patent holders, which is valid since 2017. So 5 years more I am a f.. slave thanks to Openmoko. I did not receive any help from Sean. Besides this personal story (some risk is part of the game to resell goods online, so no further whining), I always miss the openess in the communication of Sean. Please remember the hardware bugs (GPS, buzzing, bass), we resellers had to handle all the customer complaints, take back the units, repair on own costs. No instructions from manufactorer side. Next non-communication concerned future of Freerunner, future of Openmoko Inc., new products etc. - nothing was communicated from Sean to community. Instead we got a born-dead baby called Wikireader and some third products, some strange video-portal, I forget the name and the idea behind since many month. Third, where is the damn support for GTA04 ? I asked 1000times for case moulds or inventory to buy from closing Openmoko laboraties, nothing in reply. Forget all mistakes in the past if just the future is supported. But nothing happend. Yes, you are right, these views back with bitterness does not help. But on the other side I was never a friend of communities which act like a relious sect, where saying uncomfortable things gets banned. (in the high times of Openmoko it was sect style). I personally learned my lesson: get your hands away from amateur style driven companys. Openmoko has been one of it. Sean always did understand himself as a artist, not a businessman. We need such creative persons. But please pay some salary to a professional sales-guy doing the homework desparetely needed to survive as company. FIC put a big bag full of money before the doors of Openmoko. Financially it was no magic to create a product out of it. Any start-up company creating something from scratch is a miracle compared to this. What I realised on reseller side, is that money was spend quite easy. Openmoko through around with free debug boards, pouches and headsets etc. Call it generousity, I call it waste of cash reflow. Not to get rich, but to have money to develop further products. Coming to an end with my rant, 50% may be my personal bitterness, but 50% are in some way true. The fail of Openmoko is the proove. Christoph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
Hi Sean, Am 22.05.2012 um 16:00 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: Dear Community (Here comes an overdue update...) Harald, with help from Roh and Gismo, has been updating / consolidating our server infrastructure and will soon migrate to modern hardware. I'm working on transferring the openmoko.org trademark and domain ownership to a recognized non-profit entity in the Free Software ++ community. This is an important step that we've wanted to do for some time. More details will follow. I hope there will be some way that *we* (the community) can influence/decide about our faith, i.e. by choosing or voting for the new entity finally owning the trademark. What I would not like to see is that it is going to be some entity I have never heard of and therefore have neither trust in nor an idea where they will move us to. But you may already plan to ask us for proposals. In the meantime, we're actively looking for a volunteer with strong sysadmin skills to continue to maintain the infrastructure after these changes. The basic setup will consist of debian systems with apache, lighttpd, mediawiki, trac, svn, git, exim, mailman, cyrus-imapd, openvz, vsftpd and munin. If anyone is interested, please contact myself and Harald off-list. Finally, I want to give a personal thanks to Roh and Gismo for all their work keeping our infrastructure alive. me too! Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
Hi Nikolaus and others, On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 04:30:56PM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: community. This is an important step that we've wanted to do for some time. More details will follow. I hope there will be some way that *we* (the community) can influence/decide about our faith, i.e. by choosing or voting for the new entity finally owning the trademark. I'm not sure if that's really worth the effort and delay associated with it. What I would not like to see is that it is going to be some entity I have never heard of and therefore have neither trust in nor an idea where they will move us to. We're right now in some discussions and unless we don't have active confirmation from the proposed new owner of trademark + domain, we don't want to throw around any names. By the end of this week, thing should be a bit more clear. What we have in mind will definitely be an entity that most people will have heard of, not some obscure small group... Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 15:44:23 Harald Welte wrote: We're right now in some discussions and unless we don't have active confirmation from the proposed new owner of trademark + domain, we don't want to throw around any names. I dont get it. Why these secrets? Of course it's not problem to wait a few weeks - there was silence from openmoko company for years. But why not be open? I think this community deserves it... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:44:23 +0200 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: What we have in mind will definitely be an entity that most people will have heard of, not some obscure small group... From the top of my hat I'd hazzard FSFE or Software Freedom Conservancy... I wonder what the end result will be :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org writes: On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:44:23 +0200 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: What we have in mind will definitely be an entity that most people will have heard of, not some obscure small group... From the top of my hat I'd hazzard FSFE or Software Freedom Conservancy... I wonder what the end result will be :) Or maybe it'll be the Santa Cruz Operation :p -- Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: community. This is an important step that we've wanted to do for some time. More details will follow. I hope there will be some way that *we* (the community) can influence/decide about our faith, i.e. by choosing or voting for the new entity finally owning the trademark. What I would not like to see is that it is going to be some entity I have never heard of and therefore have neither trust in nor an idea where they will move us to. Dr Nikolaus Thanks for your feedback. It will be a recognized non-profit entity in the Free Software world. Our main concern is the long term commitment of the non-profit. We are pursuing a number of options in parallel. But I won't name any organizations publicly until we get commitments. That would put unfair pressure / expectations on both sides. Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
