Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started
Michael you have all my support. I hope you manage to reach your goal, with or without the help from other people. (and maybe I will be able to place a decent call with my gta02 at some point in the future :) it never worked for me) ciao d ps: OT: is fso a dead project? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko v52-armhf : Issue to resume
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 03:55:55 PM Adrien Dorsaz wrote: Hello, I've had again this issue this afternoon and I've noticed that dbus wasn't running (using service dbus status). I don't know how the resume works in QtMoko for qpe service, but I've seen in /etc/init.d/qtmoko-gta04 that dbus is already marked in required services. Should the dbus requirement checked in the /opt/qtmoko/qpe.sh or in /opt/qtmoko/bin/qpe to be sure it's runing at resume ? Hi, qpe.sh is only launched during boot - and at that point it does not make much sense to check dbus. If it is not running QtMoko does not start at all. But we have /opt/qtmoko/bin/after-resume.sh - this is script (currently unused), which is executed after resume. So you can easily add check there. If dbus is for some reason crashing or is stopped then we have to figure out why. I guess QtMoko cant work much without dbus, since it's used for bluetooth and maybe other things... I think we should also be running QtMoko with logging enabled - there can be interesting message in log then. To enable logging edit /opt/qtmoko/qpe.sh and add logging_start.sh after . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env line. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started
Am Thursday 14 February 2013 08:12:44 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: Harley Laue losinggenerat...@gmail.com wrote: While I think the project you're working on is great, you come off sounding petty using terms like Closedmoko. I /still/ don't think any open hardware phone has come out without some kind of NDA attached to some part (I could be wrong.) My beef isn't so much with the NDA itself, but with their unwillingness to break it all these many years after the company has gone defunct and all engineers have been let go. I have lost count of how many NDAs I have broken, but it is probably somewhere around 20. It would be *so* easy for one of those guys to leak the ware completely anonymously without ever being identified... Hence their refusal to do so is what makes them criminals in my eyes, and they shall always remain so until and unless a leak occurs, anonymous or otherwise. You Sir are a discgrace! A) you are the criminal as you deliberately admit. B) We never owned the sourcecode of the GSM stack and you know that (Paul explained to you in loving verbosity, a year or 2 ago). You also know that what Openmoko had access to (mostly the AT interpreter) plus much more is available as leaked source in internet since ages. We also granted access to what we had to many volunteers that didn't sound as lunatic and mad as you did - your fault. C) you threatened our engineers in private mail (one or 2 years ago), to a degree where anybody else would've sent the police and prosecuted you for blackmailing, that's been the point where I suggested nobody of OM answering your mails anymore. You think you're a badass? C'mon you have no idea what *we* do every day. To me you sound like a silly consequential angry child. Oh, anybody said glamo? Best regards jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started
[cut] Lacking the source or even semi-source for the specific version of the Calypso GSM firmware [cut] There is leaked TSM30 source code for this GSM chipset firmware... maybe there also is some documentation? Did you checked this? http://tpb.noflag.org.uk/torrent/6834542/TSM30_Source_Code http://www.monova.org/torrent/4899164/TSM30_Source_Code.html -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko v52-armhf : Issue to resume
Hello! But we have /opt/qtmoko/bin/after-resume.sh - this is script (currently unused), which is executed after resume. So you can easily add check there. If dbus is for some reason crashing or is stopped then we have to figure out why. I guess QtMoko cant work much without dbus, since it's used for bluetooth and maybe other things... I think that's better because, it seems that restarting dbus permit to run qpe, but yesterday I've seen that QtMoko wasn't well responding when I did it. I've just enabled logging and hope to have the bug as soon as possible. Thanks, Adrien signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started
Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: There is leaked TSM30 source code for this GSM chipset firmware... Yes, that's exactly what I'm using as my starting point. maybe there also is some documentation? As far as hardware documentation goes, all of it is neatly gathered on my FTP site: /pub/GSM/Calypso on ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG. 100% complete as far as I can tell - haven't spotted any omissions yet. But software documentation is a different story. The TSM30 source release is just bare code, no documentation whatsoever, excepting the scattered comments in the *.[ch] files and build scripts themselves. My common sense tells me that TI had most likely provided its customers (handset manufacturers) with some hand-holding documentation on how to work with their firmware - where to go to make product-specific UI, hardware support, etc changes, how to flash the firmware, how to talk to it - setting IMEI numbers, RF calibration, testing, etc. If some kindred soul would be willing to leak that documentation (e.g., put it on a .onion and have some disposable tormail.org account post a link to it), it would be immensely helpful to the FreeCalypso project. But I won't sit and wait for it with bated breath - I'll just bite the bullet and painstakingly study the code to recover that knowledge. It will take longer, but the project will still proceed. Did you checked this? http://tpb.noflag.org.uk/torrent/6834542/TSM30_Source_Code http://www.monova.org/torrent/4899164/TSM30_Source_Code.html I'm the guy who sent that ware to Cryptome.org, from where those torrents were then made. :-) joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: You also know that what Openmoko had access to (mostly the AT interpreter) plus much more is available as leaked source in internet since ages. And you know as well as I do that the widely-available version, the one I am currently using as my starting point, is set up to target the wrong hw platform and the wrong feature configuration. Being able to take a peek at a version that is already configured as necessary, even if that version is mostly binary objects, would be a very helpful aid for the FreeCalypso project seeking to recreate that configuration starting from the wrong but full-source-available version. But I will persevere nonetheless, with or without the bits which you are hoarding. We also granted access to what we had to many volunteers that didn't sound as lunatic and mad as you did - your fault. It isn't just me that you are hurting - it is the entire GTA02 user community. I am pretty confident that I can rip out the TMS320DA250 ties from the FreeTSM30 code base, and make it run on a Calypso-only phone. I will also *attempt* to recreate the changes you have make for the moko version (custom AT commands, wake-up signaling, whatever else is there that I'm unaware of), that is, recreate them independently while being denied a peek at your version. If I succeed in that part, great. But if not, I will just screw the GTA0x and find a Calypso-only phone to use, with no AP and hence no need for the wake-up logic, etc. Either way, I will have a working cellphone in my pocket, running my FreeCalypso firmware - which is my goal. But your refusal to share the moko-specific modifications you have made to the firmware will make it less likely that my firmware will be a functional drop-in replacement for the old one, which obviously has a direct bearing on others' ability to benefit from my work. So in the end it will be the community which you are screwing, not me. C) you threatened our engineers in private mail (one or 2 years ago), Not just private email, but quite publicly too, on this very list. to a degree where anybody else would've sent the police Why don't you go right ahead - I challenge all police forces of the world to try to stop me. To me you sound like a silly consequential angry child. This silly consequential angry child will produce a working, fully-functional, full source, illegally-free GSM firmware for the Calypso, and make it available to the entire worldwide community of lawbreakers, anarchists and revolutionaries. That *will* happen with or without your help. The *only* part that isn't certain is whether or not that firmware will be usable on GTA02 phones as a drop-in replacement for the old binary-only one. If it isn't, the community will know whom to blame. Oh, anybody said glamo? You mean this: $ hostname ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG $ ls -l /pub/GSM/GTA02/Glamo total 2808 -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 248664 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3362_CmdQ_Spec1.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 1919990 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3362_Datasheet_V1.0-Full.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 147740 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3365_2D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 390670 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3365_3D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 102131 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3365_MPEG_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf Available via anonymous FTP, as usual. Viva la Revolucion, SF
Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started
On 02/14/13 12:40, Michael Spacefalcon wrote: snip Oh, anybody said glamo? You mean this: $ hostname ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG $ ls -l /pub/GSM/GTA02/Glamo total 2808 -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 248664 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3362_CmdQ_Spec1.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 1919990 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3362_Datasheet_V1.0-Full.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 147740 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3365_2D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 390670 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3365_3D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 msokolov 102131 Oct 20 2011 Glamo_3365_MPEG_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf Available via anonymous FTP, as usual. I think he meant: http://people.openmoko.org/sean/datasheets/glamo3362/ which is the released (with permission from SMedia) documentation from openmoko. I'm guessing the ones you have are the leaked versions? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
