Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)
On Sun, 2013-10-06 at 08:42 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Can you agree on the following?
1. you are talking about open SOURCE hardware (which I call free hardware)
No. I've explicitly refrained from distinguishing between such labels
because I'm aware that they are not as well defined in the domain of
hardware as they are in the domain of software.
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Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)
On 10/09/2013 08:23 PM, Bob Ham wrote: And the next day, when you've found an old definition that accords with your view, suddenly that one definition would have obviated any discussion. The meaning of the words are defined by the communities that use it and different communities can have different understandings. And license definitions don't mean much until people in general have accepted it. You are merely trying to impose your interpretation on other people. For me, the meaning of open hardware was defined by the introduction of the IBM PC (which did not include open source schematics). This is the meaning I know about and I believe it is still the reference most people have. It is laudable to have more hardware open and it would be nice if goldelico would release the schematics in source. But I don't see them has having such obligation neither I see any inconsistence in their actions or words. Goldelico has certainly contributed to the cause of open hardware and you are merely trying to put shame on them by rhetorical manipulation to force them to do something they obviously don't have to. It is your actions I don't find laudable. ANd causing a lot of wasted energy. Fernando Martins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)
On Wed 09 October 2013 20:47:01 Fernando Martins wrote: It is laudable to have more hardware open and it would be nice if goldelico would release the schematics in source. But I don't see them has having such obligation neither I see any inconsistence in their actions or words. Goldelico has certainly contributed to the cause of open hardware and you are merely trying to put shame on them by rhetorical manipulation to force them to do something they obviously don't have to. It is your actions I don't find laudable. ANd causing a lot of wasted energy. +1 thanks! /j -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments (alas the above page got scrapped due to resignation(!!), so here some supplementary links:) http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii/ (German) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Kickstarter: Open Source Graphics Processor (GPU)
Sounds interesting (in the long term): Complete Verilog implementation of a 2D/ 3D graphics processor capable of OpenGL and D3D w/ full test suite http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/725991125/open-source-graphics-processor-gpu Should work with both Altera and Xilinx FPGAs Goals: $200k for 2D, $400k for 3D, ... It currently has only a PCI interface, however. Raphael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
