okay now i was able to read the full thread and notice that it is the
same project.
04/13/15 01:08 -ին Norayr Chilingarianը գրել է.
> btw there is a free software cellular baseband project
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/free-software-cellular-baseband
>
> On Sat, 11 Apr 2015, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote:
>
>> Nick wrote:
>>
>>> Where does that leave the indiegogo campaign? Is the money not
>>> needed now?
>>
>> It is indeed no longer needed for the original purpose for which the
>> campaign was started when the original PCB files were believed to have
>> been lost. The campaign page has been updated to reflect this new
>> development. However, if anyone would like to continue donating, the
>> money would help me and Shannon - see the update at the bottom of the
>> "story" page.
>>
>>> Eventually you'll need more funds, presumably, for the
>>> production parts of the project.
>>
>> Yes, and I am not even considering "production" as in "production for
>> sale" at all at this point - way too premature to even think about it.
>> Instead, what the project may need money for in a few months will be
>> physical production of the first lab prototypes.
>>
>> I am approaching this project in a very different way from how a
>> business person would do it. Business people always talk about what
>> they call opportunity costs, and whenever they consider doing any
>> project or venture, they always consider the option of *not* doing it.
>> When they look at costs, they generally estimate the total cost upfront
>> (the total cost to get to the end result), and decide whether or not
>> to do the project based on that total cost among other factors.
>>
>> But I work differently: I concentrate all of my effort, energy and
>> attention on whatever is the immediate next step at each given moment,
>> and deliberately abstain from thinking about what costs or challenges
>> lie ahead. I deviate from the "proper business" way because in that
>> "proper business" way the purpose of realistically estimating the
>> total cost to the finish line is to decide whether or not to do the
>> project at all, and for me not doing my project is NOT an option: I
>> need this project in order to give my life purpose and meaning.
>> Therefore, I keep my attention focused on the immediate next step, and
>> simply hope for the best when it comes to future difficulties and/or
>> costs further down the road.
>>
>> Right now the immediate next step is for me and my PCB layout partner
>> to produce our own layout for the first prototype we seek to build,
>> based on the just-recovered Openmoko one and other available references
>> like the Pirelli DP-L10. This step is pure desk work, i.e., editing
>> design files on a computer with the appropriate software tools, so no
>> money is needed for the project itself at this point - although my
>> family could very much use any help given.
>>
>> After this step is done, the results of it will be publicly released:
>> a PCB design file in a free EDA tool format and a set of gerbers which
>> one can send to a fab to produce a physical board. (In fact, all work
>> is being done in a public source repository, so it's really in a state
>> of continuous release, no need to wait for completion.) Only after
>> the design is complete and we have the gerbers for the first prototype
>> will I start looking into how much it would cost to physically produce
>> that first prototype board from those gerbers. It will probably be
>> several months from now, so hopefully by then my personal/family
>> financial situation will improve (the current hardship is expected to
>> last about 4 months), and I may be able to afford that step on my own
>> - and if not, it'll be time for another crowdfunding campaign then.
>>
>>> Speaking of which, are you planning
>>> to sell the phones you produce yourself, eventually? Or outsource
>>> it?
>>
>> I do plan on offering finished products (initially standalone modems
>> for playful use with laptops etc, and later phones) up for retail sale
>> to end users, but whenever someone complains about my asking price
>> being too high, I'll point them to the freely released gerber, BOM etc
>> files and invite them to try producing it themselves for less.
>>
>> VLR,
>> SF
>>
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